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Bear with me. Called to order again. 00:00:05
Please for this meeting and we will do a roll call. 00:00:09
Commissioner Brisson. 00:00:15
Present. 00:00:17
Chair Myers. 00:00:17
President. 00:00:19
Secretary Lee. 00:00:20
Yeah. 00:00:22
Commissioner Dunn present. 00:00:22
We have a quorum. 00:00:26
Um, so first order, I'd like to approve the agenda. 00:00:28
I'll second that. 00:00:36
All in favor. 00:00:38
Aye, aye. 00:00:39
Any opposed? 00:00:41
Agenda is approved. 00:00:44
OK. Next up we have the Commission and staff announcements. 00:00:47
If you don't mind me leading off, I have a few announcements. That's great. 00:00:54
So to start off with, I'm going to touch on the monarch butterflies. 00:00:58
It was a topic at our previous months meeting. 00:01:02
And they arrived a little ahead of schedule, so some of the recommended. 00:01:05
Maintenance activities that. 00:01:10
We had discussed and had planned to execute have been postponed until after the butterflies have left the sanctuary out of 00:01:12
necessity. 00:01:16
At last count, where we had 704 butterflies as counted by the Natural History Museum on October 13th and it seems. 00:01:21
To that, that number is going up every day. 00:01:29
And. 00:01:33
I imagine there might be Commission members that will make the same announcement, but the NRC, in cooperation with the museum and 00:01:33
staff, are planning a. 00:01:37
Neighborhood. 00:01:42
Monarch meeting October 26th to discuss. 00:01:43
Our neighbors of the Sanctuary and George Washington Park can best support the monarchs. 00:01:47
Invites have been mailed out to. 00:01:53
People within a certain radius of those parks but anyone's welcome though, and they'll be social media. 00:01:55
Details forthcoming now for the next week, but that's October 26th that. 00:02:01
6:00 PM Everyone is welcome, and that's at the museum. 00:02:05
We've had some questions about the wildlife website recommendations that the NRC put together. I just wanted to update that that 00:02:09
has been passed on to the IT and public relations team at the city. 00:02:15
And they oversee kind of the. 00:02:22
Overall architecture of the city's website and they work really hard to put together. 00:02:24
A cohesive navigable. 00:02:29
Website. 00:02:32
And there's so much information on the website that. 00:02:33
That can be a tough thing, so. 00:02:36
Well, they've had some turnover in that department, but. 00:02:37
They have that information and they're working on it. 00:02:40
And that. 00:02:42
Because of conversations that I believe the subcommittee and I know I think I'm not sure if. 00:02:45
Commissioner Britton was involved, but there's also been talks with the Chamber of Commerce. 00:02:49
And potentially putting that same information on their website. 00:02:54
So. 00:02:57
I'm sorry, it's not that hasn't been executed, but it is in progress. 00:02:58
Then I also wanted to update on the item from last month, the black oyster catcher. 00:03:03
Actually, this might be two months ago. 00:03:06
Black Oyster, Catcher, Memorandum of Understanding went to Council, was passed and has been signed by. 00:03:08
The mayor and the president of the Monterey Audubon Society. 00:03:15
So the next step I'll be working with the Monterey Audubon Society and the. 00:03:18
Planning Commission to put together an application for a coastal development permit. 00:03:23
I think we're. 00:03:27
On schedule to get that. 00:03:28
Figured out, I'm just hopefully passed. 00:03:31
For the next. 00:03:33
Nesting season. 00:03:35
That's all I have. Thank you. 00:03:38
Wonder. 00:03:40
Since we're the. 00:03:47
Excuse me, since we're the beautification folk. 00:03:49
I just wanted to put a message out there that. 00:03:52
I think. 00:03:56
The grounds around City Hall, although they're. 00:03:57
Small could be improved tremendously. 00:04:00
And I'm wondering if that's something that maybe even Amy and I could talk about. I'd be happy to. 00:04:04
To help with the. 00:04:09
A volunteer cleanup and maybe some planting if we could get some. 00:04:11
Butterfly friendly slash drought tolerant plants. 00:04:16
Make ourselves just. 00:04:20
Look better. 00:04:21
Because I think. 00:04:23
It is, and I think this whole idea of. 00:04:24
The butterfly window and making. 00:04:29
Making us look prettier, Kind of. 00:04:32
All of a sudden opened my eyes to the front of this building. 00:04:35
So I just would put that out there. And Amy, I'm happy to connect with you if you have any ideas. Thank you. 00:04:38
Thank you. 00:04:47
Umm. 00:04:51
OK. I think George. 00:04:52
Took some of my announcements so. 00:04:54
Like my final one is, I just wanted to thank the Fire Chief who gave a very informative talk on. 00:04:57
Fires this past month at a George Washington Park cleanup, and I thought it might be a great idea. 00:05:03
To invite him in some time to speak to us about. 00:05:10
Fire. 00:05:13
Good afternoon. 00:05:25
I attended a Cal amp. 00:05:27
Webinar. 00:05:31
That was. 00:05:32
I'm using. It was called How to Nurture and Protect Your Trees. 00:05:33
First, it went through all the ways that we torture trees, and that's like their word. 00:05:39
They were a little bit spoofing, but a little bit not. And then they showed what to do, how to care for trees in terms of soil 00:05:43
types, how to water and how much to water them, how to stake them. 00:05:49
Et cetera. And they stressed the need to plant trees as we are losing them fast and they did this great framing of. 00:05:55
The value of trees, not. 00:06:05
Only from the monetary perspective, but how to frame of you in your front door or frame? 00:06:07
If you want a welcome home tree or for your perimeter, for your privacy as a boundary and in that way it creates value. 00:06:14
Because of the ambiance they create in your yard. 00:06:23
And it was just. 00:06:27
So good. And I'm so. 00:06:30
Disappointed that they haven't figured out how to record these and make them available. 00:06:33
And then? 00:06:39
The. 00:06:41
Other announcements I have are that we have a tentative date for George Washington Park walk through with Amanda Priest. And 00:06:43
Amanda Priest is the environmental advocate for the Audubon Society and she's exceptionally knowledgeable about. 00:06:51
Birds and bird habitat. And the purpose of the walkthrough is educational, Educational in nature because we talk a lot about, Oh 00:06:59
my gosh, that's going to affect bird habitat. Well, how do you know the difference between a Bush? 00:07:06
And bird habitat, How do you know the difference between? 00:07:14
Good poison oak. There's actually providing something in nature and had poison oak that maybe is killing a tree or just annoying. 00:07:17
So she is here to be talking to us about these things and it is scheduled on a weekday. So sorry for people who work, but it's 00:07:25
Monday, October 30th at 1:30 PM in the hopes that the sum of city staff and public works can also. 00:07:34
Attend. 00:07:43
And my last announcement. 00:07:45
I probably shouldn't say this, but I'm going to say it because. 00:07:49
I need the motivation. 00:07:53
Our outreach committee is putting together a seasonal calendar for not only wildlife events. So it's. 00:07:55
Includes the Wildlife Subcommittee, but. 00:08:01
Also city seasonal events like the timing of the monarch walk through, timing of work to be done in the different parks, that kind 00:08:05
of thing. 00:08:09
And umm. 00:08:13
It's just that. 00:08:15
We've been striving to do this for months and we haven't gotten around to it yet. We're really trying. 00:08:17
And if you want to write us a letter to. 00:08:23
Urge us forward and maybe suggest what you would like to see on the calendar. 00:08:27
Hopefully it'll be. 00:08:34
Happening soon. 00:08:35
But. 00:08:36
Thank you for. 00:08:37
Your motivation. 00:08:40
Yeah. 00:08:43
Next up, we will have council liaison announcements. 00:08:45
Hi, good afternoon, Chair and members of the Commission. 00:08:49
Hi. 00:08:53
A little bit of a report from City Council. 00:08:55
As far as what we've been doing lately. 00:08:59
We've really been involved. 00:09:02
In. 00:09:04
Working on getting a new. 00:09:05
Or an interim city manager on board. And that's something we've we met last night and we're meeting again. 00:09:08
Wednesday night. 00:09:16
So we're making some exciting progress on that. 00:09:17
Soon we will have an interim city manager. 00:09:20
And that's something council is very involved in. We're also very involved in right now in developing and approving the draft 00:09:24
housing element. 00:09:28
And that will be discussed tomorrow night at 6:00 PM at our council meeting. 00:09:34
And I encourage everyone who's interested to download the draft. 00:09:38
And then also participate in tomorrow's meeting. 00:09:43
Thank you very much. Have a good week. 00:09:46
Thank you. 00:09:49
We'll open it up. 00:09:52
To general public comment. 00:09:53
OK. 00:10:06
And jeeva our cannon. I'm a resident of Pacific Grove. 00:10:07
And I also work with the group Coast. 00:10:11
I we sent a map to you I think yesterday. 00:10:15
And I wanted to share with you it is. 00:10:19
A draft map is just the beginning. 00:10:21
For a new 1.3 mile walk, discover point Pinos Heritage. 00:10:24
Starts at the lighthouse and circles the perimeter of the lighthouse reservation. 00:10:29
With six steps of interest. 00:10:35
And the legend is on the back. 00:10:37
And it is kind of constantly being revised. It's not in its final form, but. 00:10:39
We may be adding another stop or changing some of the information on the map, so like I said, it's a draft. 00:10:44
And it was done as an activity for the return of the Western Flyer. 00:10:50
Which is the weekend of November 4th and 5th. 00:10:55
And they want to do a walk on that day from. 00:10:59
Uh. 00:11:02
Doctor Ricketts lab. 00:11:03
To the great tide pool. 00:11:05
And this? 00:11:06
Is a part of that walk, or separately from that walk? 00:11:08
It recognizes also the Lighthouse and Point Pinos. 00:11:12
To the Steinbeck and Ricketts story and the history of Pacific Grove. 00:11:16
The map was exhibited at Chautauqua Hall for Butterfly Days. We did a big poster of it. 00:11:21
And I was amazed at. 00:11:27
Really, how much interest there was in the map and in the walk and we had the handouts like we've sent to you. 00:11:29
So I hope you'll take the walk. 00:11:36
It's also drivable. 00:11:38
And enjoy. 00:11:41
Thank you. Thank you. 00:11:43
Would you mind spelling your last name for me? 00:11:46
I'm sorry, what What would you spell your last name for? Ohh sure. 00:11:48
Our cannon, ARCANIN. 00:11:52
Thank you. And Jeeva is GEVAK. 00:11:57
Thank you. 00:12:02
Any callers. 00:12:09
We have two hands raised in the virtual audience. We'll start with Lisa Gianni. 00:12:11
I I just first, I'd love it if the chair could speak up just a little more or enter her mic or whatever it is. Thank you. First I 00:12:18
would like to thank you again for recommending that council approved the Black Oyster Catcher protection protocol. M OU George 00:12:25
first did an excellent presentation followed by Amanda Priest and this was at 10:00 at night. I think Rick Hanks and I also spoke 00:12:33
and councils unanimous approval was very much appreciated. 00:12:41
We're looking forward to the next steps getting underway as soon as possible, and it sounds like that's happening. So the Coastal 00:12:48
development permit will be in place in plenty of time for the next Floyd breeding season. Unfortunately, the community is still 00:12:56
struggling to bring about adequate collaboration with the city in George Washington Park. I forwarded to you an e-mail I sent to 00:13:03
City Council a month ago when work was carried out in the park under Public Works. 00:13:11
Correction disregarding. 00:13:19
City Council's direction to staff Council's direction was unfortunately vague, but Public Works did not conform to either of the 00:13:21
plans that were discussed in that council meeting, the George Washington Park Master Plan or Gudex. 00:13:28
City of Pacific Grove, George Washington Park Forest Management Plan Revised plan Memo. 00:13:36
Sent to public works following BRC's November 15, 2022 meeting where B NRC voted to not recommend Gudex Forest Management plan to 00:13:43
City Council. 00:13:49
Judex Revised Plan Memo recommends that quote. 00:13:55
Hand crews using hand tools and powered equipment only chainsaws, weed whips, et cetera. 00:13:58
Can can perform all the recommended activities in a single pass. The treatment areas are sufficiently close to public streets that 00:14:05
equipment such as a chipper can be parked on the road. 00:14:11
And cut material can be dragged to the street for chipping. End Quote I sent you photos of a chipper and backhoe deep inside the 00:14:18
park on September 13th. I had expected that. The very distressing mismanagement. 00:14:25
Of George Washington. 00:14:32
Park maintenance would be on the agenda for this month's meeting and I'm disappointed that it's not on your agenda. I should say 00:14:34
I've asked before and will continue to ask, that the NRC regularly agendize subcommittee reports so the public can be updated and 00:14:40
any concerns can be discussed by the full BRC. 00:14:47
This is the most engaged and action oriented BN RC I have observed in my 8 years of attending BRC meetings regularly and I greatly 00:14:54
appreciate all your work. I request again that subcommittee reports be made a regular agenda item. 00:15:03
Thank you. And also I I'm really excited about Coasts point. 00:15:11
Heritage walk map. 00:15:17
Thank you. 00:15:19
OK. 00:15:22
Next we have Inga, Lawrence and Dahmer. 00:15:26
Thank you, George. 00:15:31
Umm. 00:15:33
I'm going to echo everything Lisa said. 00:15:34
And I would like to ask what is happening? 00:15:37
With our code enforcement officers, specifically our. 00:15:41
Wildlife. 00:15:45
Coast code enforcement officers that were supposed to have been trained CSO's half in wildlife management. How do we report? 00:15:47
A disturbance. 00:16:00
How's it? 00:16:02
Track. How is it recorded? Documented. Do we even have any? I called? 00:16:03
And requested just. 00:16:10
A parking enforcement issue? 00:16:12
And was informed by the commander that they only had one and that she didn't. She was busy with other things and it had nothing to 00:16:15
do with wildlife. 00:16:20
So I'm really wondering what in the world is happening. 00:16:25
With this directive, and that is supposed to be happening, bids were supposed to be going out the RFP's for these. 00:16:29
Excuse me, RFP's not bids. 00:16:38
For the wildlife coastal. 00:16:42
Enforcement officers, I don't. 00:16:45
I can't find out what's really happening, so please put that on your agenda. 00:16:47
And find out what is going on and how to document and how to get a hold of them. 00:16:53
Umm. 00:16:59
Because. 00:17:01
So far it looks like it fell into a deep, dark pit that it's not being addressed and we need. 00:17:02
These officers and not complacency, so thank you very much. 00:17:11
No further hands raised on the virtual audience. 00:17:22
One thing I wanted to ask you if you would put the historic walk on your agenda for your next meeting. 00:17:35
So that we could actually discuss it with you. 00:17:44
Here. 00:17:49
Yes, it's It's supposed to arrive on Saturday, November 4th. 00:17:53
And then the walk is going to be on Sunday. 00:17:58
Um. 00:18:02
And we're looking at 2:00 for this particular walk. 00:18:03
I. 00:18:10
No, but this is. This is. 00:18:13
We picture this as an ongoing. 00:18:15
Walk for the city to enjoy and. 00:18:19
You might have some ideas for us and how how best to do that. 00:18:22
Thank you. Thank you. 00:18:27
Next we will. 00:18:39
Have approval of the Minutes. 00:18:42
I move to approve the Minutes. 00:18:45
I actually have some correction. Do you? I do. 00:18:48
If I may proceed, let's see. So I have on the second page of the minutes #7. 00:18:52
A second paragraph on. 00:19:00
The window. 00:19:05
So it mentions Mr. August Architect. 00:19:07
My recollection says also we. 00:19:11
We're told that the platform. 00:19:14
Would also. 00:19:17
We would incur the cost for that, is that correct? 00:19:19
OK, so maybe we can add that to it. 00:19:23
Umm. 00:19:26
And then, if we go down to the third paragraph starting, Commissioner Brisson, I would say that I. 00:19:28
Actually felt that ideally it should be displayed as a window. 00:19:36
Rather than. 00:19:42
Kind of, you know, in a. 00:19:44
In a garden space it is a window, so I felt it should be a window rather than. 00:19:46
Elevating, I would say displaying it as. 00:19:51
A window. 00:19:55
Umm. 00:19:56
Let me see, I had one more, OK? 00:19:58
I think it's seven C, first paragraph. 00:20:03
At the end my recollection, it says in response to Commissioner Brisson's question. 00:20:07
I My recollection says that that was Commissioner Lee. 00:20:14
Is that right? 00:20:18
OK. 00:20:20
So if we can change that. 00:20:21
Thank you. That's all I have. 00:20:24
OK. Thank you. So as revised. 00:20:26
So you have provisions, all right. 00:20:32
Should I wait or just say it? 00:20:37
Umm. 00:20:41
I made a motion toward the end of the meeting. I'm sorry, I don't have the. 00:20:42
Why your page number? 00:20:45
Regarding the BNC collaboration with Public Works in George Washington Park. 00:20:47
And the motion. 00:20:53
I can e-mail it to you if you want, but it's stated incorrectly. 00:20:55
No, I can. I can read. 00:21:05
What I've got? 00:21:07
OK, so it should read that. 00:21:10
I move to recommend to the City Council to approve that the NRC collaborate with public works on all future managements and 00:21:12
enhancements. 00:21:16
When George Washington Park para powers and duties to quote, facilitate, conservation, and quote as a matter of protocol. 00:21:22
E-mail it to you. 00:21:36
OK. 00:21:38
No, you wrote them. Why would I make the correction? 00:21:40
That would be reflected in the record what you would. 00:21:43
Your recommendations? 00:21:46
As amended, do we approve the agenda? 00:21:49
I mean the the minutes is only second. 00:21:52
Pardon. 00:21:56
I believe we have a motion and not a second. 00:21:56
So I'll second move to approve the minutes. 00:21:59
Yeah. 00:22:03
A second as amended. 00:22:05
OK. 00:22:07
All in favor. 00:22:08
Aye. 00:22:09
Any opposed? 00:22:10
Motion carries. I just have a question about. 00:22:12
The public was a little daunted that the corrections to the minutes were not being made. 00:22:16
In the final draft, who is responsible to correct the minutes? 00:22:22
Comma. 00:22:26
I think in generally that falls on the secretary. 00:22:27
Sort of. Secretary Lee or Commissioner Dunn, who I believe wrote these minutes. If you guys could resubmit A corrected version, 00:22:30
that'd be appreciated. 00:22:34
OK. 00:22:39
OK, so now we'll start the regular agenda. The first thing we need to do today is elect a vice chair. 00:22:45
And I would like to nominate. 00:22:54
Commissioner Marty Dunn for the position of Vice Chair. 00:22:57
I'll second that. 00:23:05
Right. With the motion in a second, we'll move to A roll call vote. 00:23:18
Commissioner Bryson. 00:23:21
Aye. 00:23:23
Chair Myers, Secretary Lee. 00:23:24
Commissioner Dunn. 00:23:28
Self I. 00:23:30
40 with one absent. 00:23:33
Motion passes. 00:23:40
Wonderful. 00:23:41
OK, now we are taking up a few matters that were continued from the September 17th PNRC meeting. 00:23:44
The first is the. 00:23:54
Recommendation of a creation of a joint working group. 00:23:57
Where there was a call for volunteer, one volunteer from each commissioner board. 00:24:01
Umm. 00:24:07
I wasn't here at the last meeting, but I think I'm up to speed on what went, what went. 00:24:09
On, do you mind if I give a quick update? 00:24:14
Last meeting. So the request from the NRC was to invite Chief Kathy Madeline from the Police Department, who is kind of 00:24:18
facilitating the organization of this group. 00:24:23
And just the organization. The day-to-day operation of it will fall on the members, the volunteers from the various boards and 00:24:29
commissions. 00:24:32
I invited her to today's meeting and unfortunately she had a scheduling conflict. So if there is still a questions and a need for 00:24:37
her to come. 00:24:41
She thinks she'll be available next month, but she also wanted me to add that there's not a lot of subtext here. 00:24:46
This is a conceptual idea. This group does not exist and the. 00:24:51
Wait, the way that this group will function will be decided by the group. It's not going to be decided by her, and it's not going 00:24:56
to be decided ahead of time. 00:24:59
The ask right now is just to. 00:25:03
If you would like. 00:25:05
Choose a volunteer to be part of this group, and then that group as a group will decide how things will work moving forward. 00:25:06
So she's not available tonight, but she could come potentially in November if that is still a want. 00:25:13
But my suggestion or my recommendation would be to if this is something you guys are interested in. 00:25:17
Choose a volunteer. 00:25:23
No. 00:25:25
Anybody interested? 00:25:28
We had. 00:25:31
I think discussed a little bit if we could rotate, take turns. 00:25:32
Being part of this, coming back to the NRC and giving a report, we thought that way it might actually. 00:25:39
Be more beneficial. Any thoughts on that or did you hear back from her on that? I think it's the response to that is that it'll be 00:25:45
up to the group, the joint working group, OK. So which has not been formed yet. 00:25:51
So once a member is selected and as part of that group, then that group can. 00:25:57
Take this in any direction they want. Yeah, this could fizzle and turn to nothing. Or maybe. 00:26:02
Now this group is very productive and decides on the. 00:26:06
You know, a rotation or they can go any way they want with it. 00:26:10
But as of now, this is all there is. No. This is never. This group has never met. This group doesn't exist. This is just putting 00:26:13
forth one person to. 00:26:17
Be part of the group and decide where it's going to. 00:26:21
Volunteer. 00:26:25
I can volunteer for that, at least to start. 00:26:27
Right. 00:26:31
Maybe we could do it alphabetically or? 00:26:33
I think because the group hasn't been formed yet, we should start with one volunteer. 00:26:37
And then once you get to the first meeting, then you guys can work out. 00:26:42
Right. 00:26:47
OK, wonderful, Commissioner Bryson. 00:26:48
Is our volunteer. 00:26:52
Thank you. 00:26:53
Church. 00:26:56
I was really looking forward to. 00:26:57
Chief Malone being here to be able to ask her some other questions as well. 00:27:00
We heard from the public, but also it was supposed to be on our agenda when Megan was chair for the CSO. 00:27:06
I'm not the CSO. Sorry the code enforcement officer to come back here and explain. 00:27:14
How we would report a wildlife incident because if you'll recall, we had callers. 00:27:21
Calling in saying they had reported wildlife incidents not only to the code enforcement officer, but to the police and Fish and 00:27:26
Wildlife. 00:27:30
And there was like no record of it. So we need a very specific. 00:27:35
How to so that it gets on the record? 00:27:39
Can you I I thought you were going to follow up on that I And then the other thing we need to follow up on is the status of the 00:27:43
CSO. 00:27:48
And the that were for wildlife enforcement. 00:27:53
So what? What's the appropriate way to proceed on that? 00:27:57
I think the appropriate thing to do and you can now that you've done it here and you can do it offline also is recommend to the 00:28:01
chair that that's added to a future agenda and I think it would not have been appropriate to ask the you know the the chief had. 00:28:07
Come for this agenda is item specifically for this working group. 00:28:13
Then we wouldn't want to kind of steer off into those types of questions, but. 00:28:17
If that's a want to have her come and discuss that on that specific item we can put, you know that's a potential future agenda 00:28:21
item. 00:28:24
OK, And she'll she think she'll be available on? 00:28:27
For our November meeting. 00:28:31
She indicated that to me, yes. 00:28:33
OK, so. 00:28:35
So that's good. So we could do that then. OK. So let's talk offline about that, we can add that. 00:28:37
OK. 00:28:42
All right, the next. 00:28:45
Excuse me? 00:28:47
Possible. 00:28:53
I mean we'll, we'll discuss that offline and. 00:28:54
Not for the volunteer thing. 00:28:59
I think, I think it would be for it'll, it'll be for the agenda item that you want to introduce. 00:29:01
I don't think we need to. I tend to agree with you, George, that we don't really need to talk. Bring her in to talk about a group 00:29:07
that hasn't been formed yet. 00:29:11
And I think you'll be our agree. 00:29:16
You'll be our ambassador. 00:29:19
OK. 00:29:21
OK. 00:29:24
Excuse me the next thing. 00:29:25
Is a matter that's also was continued from the. 00:29:28
September 17th BE NRC meeting and that is the butterflies from the Aga family. 00:29:32
Donation proposal. 00:29:39
Umm. 00:29:42
I know there was quite a bit of discussion last time on this and George, I don't know if you would like to kind of provide us some 00:29:44
updates. 00:29:48
Sure, and for the benefit of the Commission members that. 00:29:54
Weren't here last month all kind of out of a very brief. 00:29:57
Presentation that I've just altered slightly to kind of match. 00:30:02
What has changed since then? So I'll just go through that and then I'll also. 00:30:07
At the last meeting, Commissioner Dunn was tasked with kind of scouting out some potential locations and some members of the 00:30:11
public also submitted potential locations. So at the end of. 00:30:15
The presentation there's also. 00:30:20
The. 00:30:21
There's a little slideshow of potential locations, so. 00:30:23
Let me great shift to that. 00:30:26
For the topic, here is a. 00:30:45
Proposal. 00:30:48
Submit all the. 00:30:50
The city has received the NRC has received of a an outdoor art donation of a stained glass window. 00:30:51
Titled The Butterflies. 00:30:59
This window used to grace the front of the. 00:31:02
Home and building. 00:31:04
To get there. 00:31:08
There are. 00:31:10
Photos. 00:31:11
Submitted by the proposed donor. 00:31:12
From, I believe inside the building. 00:31:15
What's up? 00:31:21
So the piece is approximately 8 feet by 12 feet. 00:31:26
Further details are attached in the proposal, which is attached to this agenda and last month's agenda. 00:31:30
In the proposal the proposed donor had. 00:31:38
Requested certain conditions. 00:31:42
To get in to go along with the donation that we're. 00:31:44
And they would deviate from the normal. 00:31:48
Council policy on outdoor. 00:31:52
Our Donation Policy 900.3 Dash 3 which stipulate. 00:31:54
That when a piece is received by the city, it is, you know, fully owned by the city to do whatever they see fit with. 00:31:59
And that includes determining the location and how it is displayed. 00:32:06
Whether it is displayed in the future or not. 00:32:10
So. 00:32:13
Once that proposal was received, there were conversations between staff and. 00:32:14
The. 00:32:19
Representatives of the proposed donors. 00:32:20
Some of the conditions which just want to say ultimately any deviation from Policy 900-3 would. 00:32:23
The made by the Council. 00:32:30
So. 00:32:33
The NRC can make recommendations. 00:32:35
But ultimately, to deviate from that policy, it would be up to the council. 00:32:37
And. 00:32:42
The. 00:32:43
The original in this application deviation would be that. 00:32:45
If it was that, the piece would remain installed. 00:32:49
On display and not be sold or transferred by the city and instead would be returned to the potential donor, the Alga family. 00:32:51
And the through conversations that were had with representatives of the donor before last month's meeting. 00:32:59
The the potential donor expressed in being agreeable to the above condition being agreed to for a period of 10 years. 00:33:05
And then also they. 00:33:14
Express being agreeable to an alternate location. 00:33:16
And this is a slide from the first discuss the first meeting and this was. 00:33:20
As part of the I added the arrow but the rendering that you see. 00:33:24
Was put together by the applicant and it shows the original proposed location. 00:33:29
In between the Police Department and City Hall. 00:33:34
And that kind of monolith of a building that it is in front of. 00:33:36
Is that actually it's a a generator house, so it houses a large diesel generator that powers. 00:33:40
That complex of buildings in the event of a power outage. So when we received the application, our public works as first thought 00:33:46
was, you know, that might not be. 00:33:51
You know, people have decided that location might not have known. That's a generator house and might not have considered. 00:33:56
The effects of the, you know, diesel emissions, vibrations, and the potential to have to work on the generator. It might be 00:34:01
disruptive. 00:34:05
Disrupted by having a. 00:34:09
A piece of art there. 00:34:10
So. 00:34:12
Before the last meeting, it was kind of suggested what about just across the driveway, driveway right there? And so at the last 00:34:13
meeting that was. 00:34:17
Kind of the suggested location, but at the last meeting it was kind of brought up by the public and Commission members that why 00:34:22
limit ourselves to just those two locations? We've got a whole city to work with. 00:34:27
Let's consider other options. 00:34:33
And here's just a Google Street View of the area. So this isn't a rendering, but it also shows. 00:34:35
Kind of the the vents of the generator house. 00:34:40
Where? 00:34:43
You know, it's a modern generator that I don't think the emissions are that high, but I think anytime you're putting. 00:34:44
A protective glass on something the last thing you want is set from a generator. 00:34:50
And also the issue with there being a small tree right there that. 00:34:54
If that location. 00:34:58
Was utilized that true would. 00:34:59
Have to be removed. 00:35:02
And here's the alternate location. 00:35:04
And so these are the locations submitted by Commissioner Dunn after. 00:35:08
Doing some scouting around the city. 00:35:11
This is the kind of triangle. 00:35:15
Between at the intersection of Central Ave. and 1st St. 00:35:18
I think a lot of people coming into town from Monterey Dr. right by here, which kind of makes it an interesting. 00:35:22
Potential spot, but then there's also the issue was raised. 00:35:28
Of a potential traffic accident, you know, if you have a. 00:35:31
You know, texting drivers, something somebody just plows right through there. 00:35:35
Would be. 00:35:40
A con? 00:35:41
There's another proposed location, Lighthouse Ave. and Eardley, where Lighthouse splits and we have the Welcome to Pacific Grove 00:35:44
sign. 00:35:47
Ohh, it's a potential spot. 00:35:51
I think the traffic. 00:35:53
There's less of a ton there because it's not directed right at a triangle that then has to turn. It's kind of in the middle and a 00:35:56
little more protected. 00:35:59
This is a proposed spot and the question was brought up on if the city has an easement with the school district because this is 00:36:04
the adult school, so that property is owned by the school district. 00:36:09
And to the best of my knowledge. 00:36:15
The there's no easement. 00:36:17
It's just a really informal. 00:36:19
They're OK with us putting a sign there. 00:36:21
But I really can't speak to whether they'd be OK with us putting a. 00:36:23
8 foot by 12 foot. 00:36:26
Pedestal. 00:36:28
And you know, so I think this location. 00:36:29
Is. 00:36:32
Not very workable. 00:36:35
Be hard to make it work. 00:36:37
And this location was suggested by the public. 00:36:39
It is the poorest center at Central Ave. and Eardley. 00:36:42
Used to be the Chinese restaurant there. Now it is. 00:36:46
Operated. 00:36:49
By the Chamber of Commerce. 00:36:50
And again, this is not a city property, so you know whether this if this was where you know, I don't think the city would need to 00:36:52
be involved if they wanted to donate it to the Chamber of Commerce, but I don't think it would. 00:36:58
I can't imagine an easy setup where the city would. 00:37:03
Receive it and it would be displayed at a private property. 00:37:07
Or a nonprofit property that's not city property. 00:37:11
Unfortunately, because that would be a cool location. 00:37:14
And then I just want to reiterate. 00:37:18
The language in policy 900-3 that I hope every. 00:37:20
Commission member had a chance to familiarize themselves with and that is that. 00:37:24
The directive here is that the BRC will use. 00:37:29
Art acceptance form as a basis for evaluating the art proposed for donation and make a recommendation to City Council. 00:37:31
Who shall make the final determination on whether the city will accept? 00:37:38
Or decline. 00:37:42
The proposed donation. 00:37:43
I just want to say another request was that public works. 00:37:44
Do kind of a preliminary cost assessment. 00:37:48
Of what a cement pedestal and what displaying the piece would cost and. 00:37:51
Unfortunately, that was just not feasible to do. 00:37:56
Like we can guess what a cement pedestal might cost, maybe 5 or $10,000. But. 00:37:59
The piece in question is a very large, very fragile piece of grass, glass that you know, it's approximately the size of a garage 00:38:06
door. 00:38:10
And displaying it on a pedestal, I don't know. Originally the idea was, I think, to display it up against that building. 00:38:14
And. 00:38:20
And but if this is going to be freestanding, it's going to have to support itself somehow, so it's gonna require some sort of a 00:38:21
A-frame to hold it up. 00:38:25
And then that requires also that the pedestal, you know, maybe is anchored into the ground or can support the weight of a. 00:38:30
You know, 8 foot by 12 foot. 00:38:38
Piece of glass acting like a sail cover, you know, And then. 00:38:40
Also. 00:38:44
Covered in some sort of a polycarbonate protection. 00:38:45
So. 00:38:48
Without having more details. 00:38:50
It's really hard to get, you know, come up with an estimate on what that cost would be. 00:38:52
Without. 00:38:57
Kind of knowing. 00:38:58
Where, what and how? 00:38:59
And. 00:39:02
Through discussions with staff and city management and the representatives of the donor, I think that the idea here here is just 00:39:04
to kind of give a thumbs up. You guys are the first stop to say, is this a piece of art that we think kind of fits the culture of 00:39:10
the city, would add to our community and that we want. 00:39:16
Council to consider. 00:39:22
We don't need to get into the weeds about exactly how much it'll cost, who's going to pay for it, or even where it's going to go. 00:39:23
If you guys want to make recommendations on any of those items, you're welcome to. But ultimately it's going to be council that 00:39:27
has to decide. 00:39:32
If they want to. 00:39:36
Pay for any of that, or if they want to deviate from their policy. 00:39:38
So I think. 00:39:43
The the direction would be to. 00:39:44
Just make a recommendation on if you think the. 00:39:47
This should proceed to Council. 00:39:51
And they should. And if you think that they should, consider accepting it. 00:39:52
Thank you, George. I I I do. I would propose that we that we recommend that City Council. 00:39:57
Acquire this art on at the locations that would be agreed upon and on terms agreed upon, there's I know the the 10 year thing has 00:40:06
to be it. 00:40:10
Agreed upon in writing too, so there has to be a separate contract for that. 00:40:15
Umm. 00:40:19
I like. 00:40:21
And appreciate my days going out to. 00:40:22
Find the locations and. 00:40:26
My I think one of the first two that is actually on city owned property would would. 00:40:29
Either one of those would be. 00:40:35
A good location. 00:40:37
But. 00:40:38
In accordance with. 00:40:40
The Policy 900-3. 00:40:42
I would move that this Commission. 00:40:45
Approve this art. 00:40:50
To go forward and be evaluated by by City Council. 00:40:52
2nd. 00:40:57
I'm actually thinking that maybe we propose that growth to the city attorney. 00:41:03
Before it goes to City Council. 00:41:08
And. 00:41:12
And and I just want to try, man, Commissioner Risen, that really anything that goes to City Council, the city attorney. 00:41:14
You will have the opportunity to review also and we'll be in communication with any issues that arise. 00:41:22
And then also before we vote, if we could do public comment please. 00:41:27
Yes, we'd like to open this up to public comment now. 00:41:33
Commissioner Don, would you mind if we start with public comment? 00:41:43
Have to do. 00:41:54
My name is Susan Goldbeck. I'm a longtime citizen of Pacific Grove. 00:41:55
A friend of Nader August and I'm thrilled to see that you're enthusiastic about receiving this beautiful, beautiful icon for the 00:41:59
city of butterflies. 00:42:04
OK, now it's about stuff. I think we need to be a little bit clearer. 00:42:10
About what your. 00:42:16
Wheelhouse is here because you guys have wasted a lot of time on talking about legal issues. 00:42:18
Not your wheelhouse. 00:42:23
Whether or not this policy applies, the staff report says. 00:42:25
Well, this is what you're looking at. Well, this isn't what you're looking at. That's the first thing, he said. 00:42:28
Was you're not looking at it cause you need a city attorney? You guys recognize that last time? 00:42:33
Miss Goldberg, if you could move your microphone slightly to the left, I think we're the virtual audience can't hear you. 00:42:38
If you wouldn't mind just moving your microphone a little bit closer to your your your speaking voice anyway, so. 00:42:44
We need to be clear about what we're doing here. 00:42:50
And. 00:42:53
Marty did a lot of work to go out and look at these sites, but I think what the staff needs to do and that with all due respect 00:42:53
that you recommend that they do. 00:42:58
Is before you make your recommendations that go up to the City Council. 00:43:03
The Public Works Department who? 00:43:08
Knows better than anyone where this should be. 00:43:10
Or where it can't be. 00:43:14
Should check it out and give us an idea of what the pros and cons are of each location. 00:43:15
I'd like to see the BRC give some recommendation. As you know, I like this spot because of XI, like this spot because of Y. 00:43:21
Because there's no point in. 00:43:29
There was no point of guessing, for example, whether or not the school board would give us an easement. 00:43:31
Now George was kind enough to say, well, he didn't think that that would work because the state school district might give us an 00:43:37
easement. 00:43:40
Let's give them a call. See if they will. 00:43:43
So that maybe that has to be done at the City Council level, but you guys are an Advisory Board on? 00:43:46
The esthetics. 00:43:52
And the environmental concerns? 00:43:54
And we have to look at each of those things with your staff. They work for you. 00:43:57
Telling you you can't do that because when you see a. 00:44:03
A tree. 00:44:08
That George said this would have to be removed. Well, does that mean? 00:44:09
That it's going to die? Or is it just moved somewhere else? 00:44:13
That makes a difference. You have to have the information in order to make the recommendations. 00:44:16
So. 00:44:21
If what you're doing here today is simply saying yes, we want the gift. 00:44:22
Probably could have done that last time. 00:44:27
But. 00:44:29
We don't want to waste too much time. 00:44:30
But I think that we need to know. 00:44:33
What you guys say, what do you think? Where do you, where would you like to? Does that have something you're an Advisory Board? 00:44:35
To the Council. 00:44:42
So let's give them some advice. 00:44:44
Thank you. 00:44:46
I'm of the opinion that you don't have. 00:44:56
That it's definitely not in your wheelhouse as to what things should cost or whether the city can afford it. But I was asked to 00:44:58
ask Mr. Aga. 00:45:02
If he would be willing to pay for these different locations, well, he can't commit to doing that if he doesn't know what's 00:45:06
involved. Just like George just said, they couldn't do it either. 00:45:11
So until the City Council says, OK, we're stuck on these two locations, can you give us an idea of how much it would be and will 00:45:16
you pay for it? 00:45:19
And he certainly can't be expected to have his architect about. 00:45:23
Work up all these costs for 15 different locations, none of which you're going to choose. 00:45:28
So I'm not complaining, I'm just. 00:45:34
Trying to give you some guidance. Thank you. 00:45:36
We have two hands raised in the virtual audience. We'll start with Inga, Lawrence and Dahmer. 00:45:42
Thank you very much. 00:45:49
I was beginning to think that we weren't even going to have public comment. 00:45:51
Zip right by. OK. As far as location, I think Susan Goldblatt gave very good advice here. We need a location. 00:45:57
And not to be a spoilsport. 00:46:06
With the 1st St. triangle. 00:46:09
Uh. 00:46:11
That one that was, you know, the beautification one that has a. 00:46:13
Whole bulb out of foxtails. 00:46:17
That is that little triangle there is the one that we put up good old days signs on, huge signs of the city puts up for, or the 00:46:21
chamber for these different things on that little triangle there because it's the curve going into the city. 00:46:29
And since that changes, even their AT&T signs for the shuttles and things. 00:46:37
So I don't consider that. And mind you, I live right around the corner there on Sloat. 00:46:43
And yes, I don't think that's a good one. 00:46:49
1st and Eardley. 00:46:53
Or the central and nerdly. 00:46:55
Coming into the city. 00:46:58
We have such terrible. 00:47:00
Traffic and safety visibility issues. 00:47:03
And with the ATC coming in, that'll have to all be reworked. 00:47:07
I mean, if the ATC comes in because it's still at the Coastal Commission. 00:47:12
So here we are with. That is not a good location either, no matter how beautiful it would be there. 00:47:17
Visibility. It takes me 15 minutes sometimes just to turn the corner. 00:47:25
OK. 00:47:30
Umm. 00:47:31
I think that you're almost back to exactly where. 00:47:32
It was suggested by Public Works in the beginning of putting it on the North Side. 00:47:37
Of that driveway going into the. 00:47:43
Police and City Hall parking lot. 00:47:46
Not in front of the generator and cutting down a tree. 00:47:49
But moving it. 00:47:52
To the north side. 00:47:54
Of that driveway. 00:47:55
And I think it could be very nice there and beautify that section and actually in a way screen just the cars in the parking lot. 00:47:57
So. 00:48:07
And we need very much needed legal. 00:48:09
Council run by on this because we need a water tight. 00:48:13
Legal agreement so. 00:48:18
Thank you very much. 00:48:21
We also have a hand raised. 00:48:28
From Lisa Gianni. 00:48:30
Thank you. Well, I I totally agree that yes, this is, this is. 00:48:33
A wonderful offer and and something that would be very appropriate in PG. I'm not wild about the driveway site, but but it. 00:48:39
As as Zynga said, I mean. 00:48:52
It would. 00:48:55
Help beautify that area and and I loved Marty Dunn suggestions earlier of doing some. 00:48:56
Some. 00:49:03
Appropriate planting to beautify the area anyway, so you know that sort of thing would look. 00:49:05
Would help as well. I like the. 00:49:13
Adult school. 00:49:17
Site because of its proximity to the monarch sanctuary. 00:49:19
But I also that site is on the. 00:49:25
Draft housing element. 00:49:30
Site inventory to be. 00:49:33
I don't know what part of the site but to be developed with. 00:49:35
Multifamily housing. 00:49:40
So. 00:49:43
I'm sure there's a number of reasons it it wouldn't work there. 00:49:44
But. 00:49:47
I I hope that. 00:49:48
Public works. 00:49:51
Has someone? 00:49:53
But maybe there's no engineer there. But I don't know if the city engineer sort of part-time engineer is available to just talk 00:49:54
about how structurally. 00:50:00
That would need to be mounted to be safe. 00:50:05
And. 00:50:11
In any case, I I appreciate it. 00:50:13
Miss Goldbeck's. 00:50:15
Recommendations and and I hope. 00:50:18
That you will get more information so you can. 00:50:21
Recommend, maybe more specifically to council. 00:50:27
What you would like to see done? 00:50:31
Thank you. 00:50:33
No further hands raised. 00:50:39
Thank you everyone. 00:50:42
I mean it's it's my understanding. I've got this policy number 900-3 in front of me here. 00:50:44
And it's my understanding that the BRC really its role is to just make a recommendation as to whether or not to. 00:50:50
Accept the proposed donation. It not. Not the location. Not talking about costs, not talking about. 00:51:00
Traffic studies or anything else? 00:51:07
So I. 00:51:09
I I don't want to waste further time. 00:51:11
By going back and forth, there's there's some wonderful options here in terms of location and you know there there's merit to 00:51:15
many, many of them. 00:51:21
But I think the best thing that we can do to move this forward is just to. 00:51:27
Approve. I would recommend approving this for a donation. 00:51:32
But we'll have a vote on it. 00:51:35
And then move it over to City Council. 00:51:37
That's my recommendation. 00:51:41
Uh. 00:51:47
I totally agree with what you said and the only thing I would add is that. 00:51:48
Even though it sounds contradictory when. 00:51:53
We're not choosing a location. 00:51:56
I wonder if it would be at all helpful to City Council in. 00:51:59
Perhaps making their decision as to location. 00:52:04
If we could at least do some groundwork with adult Ed. 00:52:07
And find out. 00:52:11
Is there a? 00:52:13
Contact there. 00:52:14
I'd volunteer to. 00:52:16
To research it a bit if it's appropriate. 00:52:18
To find out if. 00:52:21
They might, in fact. 00:52:23
Be agreeable to. 00:52:26
Letting us use that land of Christmas, Ciani. 00:52:28
As just um. 00:52:31
Mentioned, I didn't realize that, that perhaps there's going to be housing on that site. 00:52:33
So that's another complication, but I'm just thinking it would might be useful to be able to at least. 00:52:38
Answer those questions a. 00:52:45
With speaking with someone at the school district, will there be housing there and be if not? 00:52:48
Are there any hoops that the city could jump through to? 00:52:55
Have that sign that the window be installed there? Would they consider it? 00:52:59
I think that that makes sense and I would. 00:53:07
I would encourage you know the public to submit any any proposed locations that they are particularly fond of. 00:53:09
To the City Council and and we can certainly participate at City Council meetings when it comes, when it comes time. 00:53:18
For that. 00:53:26
So I would move that we would. 00:53:27
Let's go ahead, yes. 00:53:31
I want to thank. 00:53:36
The Auger family and also thank him please for considering paying for the pedestal. That's huge and greatly appreciated. 00:53:38
And our concerns? 00:53:46
Of jumping through all these hoops and doing more than. 00:53:49
Is required is because we don't have a our our our city clerk is out. 00:53:52
And we are in the process of hopefully getting an interim city manager, so. 00:53:57
We were trying to tidy up the package so when it went to council it was clean and it could be passed fast. 00:54:02
I don't know if it's better to have it stalled here or stalled there, so. 00:54:08
The question I have for George is that. 00:54:13
I don't remember you talking about sit last meeting. 00:54:15
And so if we put it. 00:54:18
About soot. 00:54:22
So you said the generator produces soot. 00:54:23
And so the location the Public Works has selected would be almost more directly in the line of fire. What I remember you talking 00:54:27
more about was. 00:54:31
The vibration of the wall and that made total sense. 00:54:36
Because I I was defaulting to to the original location you proposed also so. 00:54:40
I I wanted to get clear on that. 00:54:46
To clarify. 00:54:50
Secretary Lee, I've never really seen such coming out of that building, but it is a an exhaust vent for a diesel generator. 00:54:51
Which I wouldn't want to stand in front of if it was operating. 00:54:59
I wouldn't stand behind a truck that's operating, but that being said, I haven't actually seen. 00:55:02
Black soot accumulating anywhere outside of it, but I still think that it's best to avoid putting a invaluable piece of art next 00:55:07
to a diesel generators exhaust vent. 00:55:12
But I might have been kind of embellishing a little bit when I said so. 00:55:18
OK. Thank you. And I also didn't. 00:55:24
When we talked last meeting about bulletproof glass. 00:55:27
I just assumed that was really strong. 00:55:30
And. 00:55:33
I didn't think of it. It it makes sense that because of its size it's going to be if it it could crack or you know whatever all 00:55:34
the kit fragile and. 00:55:39
This is this is tough. None of the locations just kind of screamed out at me, you know, choose that one. Except for the tourists. 00:55:46
I like the tourist. 00:55:50
But I thought I didn't realize it wasn't city owned property. I didn't know it was a problem. It was. 00:55:56
Chamber of Commerce owned property. 00:56:00
And I'm wondering, do you have any idea in this group that what Mr. Auger would feel like? We put it on the wall in here. 00:56:04
Would that be not? 00:56:11
There's only enough. 00:56:13
Up with an idea. 00:56:19
With the community. 00:56:21
And our boards. 00:56:23
As to what we can do with this magnificent gift, he would be thrilled. 00:56:24
I don't think that's a problem and as far as even though this isn't your jurisdiction. 00:56:29
As far as the money is concerned, I can. 00:56:34
I remember one time when we had to do with the. 00:56:36
Printing the. 00:56:39
Little photographs. 00:56:40
Couple of citizens said. 00:56:42
You know what? 00:56:44
Everybody's well, how are we going to pay for it? Blah blah blah blah blah. They stood up and they said we will pay for it. It was 00:56:45
$25,000. Somebody got brought a check. 00:56:48
Because this is a really, this is something we're always going to live with for the rest of our lives. 00:56:53
That's beautiful. 00:56:59
It's absolutely beautiful and it needs to. It needs to stay here. 00:57:00
Yes. 00:57:04
So. 00:57:05
So. 00:57:07
I would move that we accept the proposed butterfly. 00:57:09
Stained glass. 00:57:14
And. 00:57:16
And realize that the details of the location. 00:57:18
And costs and certain other terms will be worked out at City Council level. 00:57:22
I second it. 00:57:28
All in favor. 00:57:32
Aye. 00:57:34
Any opposed? 00:57:35
Motion carries 4 zero with one absent. 00:57:38
Great, so now. 00:57:48
I am very happy to welcome Eric Palmer from Regional Monterey. 00:57:51
Who is going to provide us with a presentation on the county's efforts with recycling and composting? 00:57:58
Welcome, Eric. 00:58:07
Good afternoon, Chair, and commissioners, thank you very much for having me. My name is Eric Plummer and I work for Regen 00:58:11
Monterey, which was. 00:58:15
Formally known as the Monterey Regional Waste Management District. 00:58:19
And because you represent the City of Pacific Grove as commissioners and stewards of our. 00:58:23
Natural Environment. I hope you find this presentation interesting and fulfilling. 00:58:29
We do a lot of these presentations to. 00:58:33
Our local stakeholders and what I like to call influencers because you can go out. 00:58:37
And spread this information to your neighbors and your friends and your family. 00:58:42
And businesses and so forth. 00:58:47
I want to acknowledge a colleague of mine in the chambers, Robin Porter. She's the. 00:58:49
Environmental Education Outreach Coordinator for Green Waste. 00:58:54
Recovery and she is the Pacific Grove representative for the company. And just as a reminder, because this can be kind of 00:58:58
confusing for the public. 00:59:02
But green waste is the hall, your hauler. They collect your your garbage and recycling and your organics. They kit take it to 00:59:06
regen Monterey. 00:59:10
Where the processor and we're also a regional government agency. 00:59:15
Pacific Grove Mayor Bill Peak is on our Board of Directors. 00:59:20
And we're a public agency because it's important to have public oversight over protecting our environment. 00:59:23
And managing the community's ways. And our board is made-up of supervisors and council members from each member jurisdiction on 00:59:31
the Monterey Peninsula. 00:59:35
We process all of the the disposed materials and we do our best to turn that race into resources. 00:59:40
And divert material from the landfill and I'm personally proud. 00:59:46
That it is a public organization because it means it's in our best interest to protect the environment and then because the 00:59:49
environment that we have here is so beautiful and so special and so fragile. 00:59:54
So. 01:00:00
When we end with questions, you may have some for me, but there may be more hauler related inquiries, so that's why we. 01:00:01
You like when we have our hauler partners with us? 01:00:07
So thank you for coming. We also have Jameson Vicer. He's our. 01:00:11
New assistant director of operations, so he thought he would come along and. 01:00:15
And listen to our presentation to see what our, our team does. Go to the next slide, please, George. 01:00:19
So this is what I'm going to talk about our. 01:00:29
Our facilities are services. What does SB1383, that's the new food scrap collection bill we talk a lot about. A large part of my 01:00:32
job is talking about how you can do it at home. 01:00:37
And why that's important, we still need more participation and then I'll go a little bit into the what those were because things 01:00:42
are always changing in our industry. 01:00:47
And then, briefly, I wanted to direct your attention to our logo. 01:00:51
Because we changed our name. We were once the Monterey Regional Waste Management District. 01:00:56
We changed it about a little over a year ago. We have a lot of acronyms in this. 01:01:02
Town, as you guys all know. 01:01:06
I think you got are you guys the PGB, NRC. Is that you're asking them? I don't know, but we wanted the name and logo that better 01:01:08
reflected what we do. 01:01:12
We're trying really hard not to use the word waste and managing waste as much. 01:01:17
Because a lot of these things that we're throwing into the landfill are actually resources that we can reuse, we could recycle and 01:01:22
turn into new things. 01:01:26
Such as renewable power and recycled materials. 01:01:31
So the region side of it, it's it comes from that natural process of regeneration. It's supposed to be a a a circular cycle. 01:01:35
We're not just supposed to be throwing stuff into a hole and. 01:01:43
Out of sight, out of mind, right? 01:01:47
So, and we're generating new resources out of your waste. 01:01:49
And our logo reflects that. It's like an Infinity symbol and the green gets darker because we're all trying to get more 01:01:53
sustainable as the years go on. 01:01:58
Our our mission is to reduce waste towards 0 in our community. 01:02:03
And it's a lofty goal, but we're making great strides and I'm really excited to talk to you about that. The logo before was a. 01:02:07
A seagull. And that's just a. 01:02:13
A symbol that we don't really want associated with a landfill anymore. So we kind of like it. Hope you guys like it too. 01:02:16
Next slide please. 01:02:22
Yeah, George, thanks. 01:02:27
OK, so this is here. Here's our map where we're at, we have about 470 acres and. 01:02:29
It started as a sanitary landfill in 1965. We're located in an unincorporated. 01:02:35
Monterey County between Marina and Castroville. 01:02:40
For a long time or. 01:02:43
Community was dumping garbage right into the ocean. 01:02:44
And then we this, you know our community decide, opened this property in a rural area, the peninsula. 01:02:47
Umm. 01:02:54
And compared to other regions in California, we're really lucky to have a comprehensive facility. So, so close to you because it 01:02:55
makes, it's a lot really convenient for our customers. We got garbage trucks, they don't have to travel very far spewing 01:03:00
greenhouse gases. 01:03:05
Some communities have their truck there. 01:03:10
Or. 01:03:12
Put it in the train or a barge super far away. We have it right here. 01:03:13
And that keeps our rates down compared to a lot of other. 01:03:17
Regions as well. 01:03:22
So that's important. 01:03:24
We represent a big district area from Castroville to Big Sur and into Carmel Valley and and into Tora Park and then the Salinas 01:03:26
Valley has their own. 01:03:30
Similar waste management agency, we have had about 125 employees and about 800 customers a day. 01:03:34
And. 01:03:42
Historically we've had about 500 to 600 visitors a year, but this year we've really seen that number climb and. 01:03:43
And it's largely due to right after the storms. 01:03:49
We're a very wooded area. 01:03:52
Got had a lot of felled trees and a lot of just a lot of green waste is coming in. 01:03:54
And now we're getting up to 9-8 hundred 900 customers a day. Sometimes 1000 vehicles are coming into our site after holidays. 01:04:00
And the economy is getting better, so people are, you know, fixing up their yards or cleaning out their houses. 01:04:09
Umm. 01:04:14
So it's just it's a really busy time. 01:04:15
Next slide please. 01:04:18
So. 01:04:22
Has anybody ever visited our Murph at? It's called the Materials Recovery Facility. It's basically a recycling plant. We get 250 01:04:23
tons of residential and commercial material every single day. 01:04:29
We have 30 employees. 01:04:35
And. 01:04:36
A bunch of great technology, optical and mechanical sorting technology that can shoot lasers and. 01:04:38
Light and air through these materials to identify what they are. We got really hard sorters. 01:04:43
That are working on conveyor belts. 01:04:50
They're over a mile long. There's 80 of them. 01:04:52
It's a very cool process to observe. We take people on tours there. 01:04:55
It's very hard work to sort and maintain this equipment. 01:04:59
Umm. 01:05:02
And we're doing pretty good as a as a community, roughly 75% of the items from your blue cart are sorted, bailed and recycled. 01:05:03
And the remainder is contamination. 01:05:11
Part of my job is to help educate the public about what is and what is not recyclable. It gets confusing. Some households are just 01:05:14
gonna use it as as a trash bin. 01:05:18
Despite the education, but we're trying to get to people who care. 01:05:23
And what's recyclable changes depending on the market and that's where people get confused because we need to be able to sell this 01:05:27
material and if it's not sold then. 01:05:32
We can't accept it and ask to go into the landfill, so that's. 01:05:37
That's why certain regions of the country will accept certain materials and certain ones won't. 01:05:40
It's all it's all about what the manufacturers want to buy from us so that they can create new things. 01:05:46
But it's really rather simple. We collect cardboard, paper, plastics, 1-2 and five if you look at the symbol on the back, glass 01:05:52
and aluminum. 01:05:56
What are the worst things that we could possibly throw on the Blue in batteries and plastic bags? By far, they're the most 01:06:03
dangerous and disruptive contaminations to the facility. 01:06:08
These are these the items such as textiles and plastic bags they wrap up in in the Gears of our equipment. 01:06:13
It stops everything. It stops 30 people from working. 01:06:20
That's 250 tons of material that has to be put to a halt. 01:06:24
That the climb into these materials and cut them out by themselves. It's very laborious. All it takes is 1 plastic bag. Please 01:06:27
dump your recyclables loose into your blue bin. 01:06:32
Even worse batteries. 01:06:39
For some reason, we're getting more batteries than ever. 01:06:41
We have fires on our landfill and in our. 01:06:43
Murph. 01:06:46
Once a week. 01:06:47
All it takes is 1 battery. When they get compressed by machines or get run over by heavy machinery, it causes explosions. 01:06:49
You've got a lot of paper in in in here. 01:06:57
As you can see on that top right photo, there's sorting paper there. Imagine fire being spread throughout there. This is a 01:07:00
community resource. We we all own it. 01:07:04
And we don't want to destroy our infrastructure, and we don't want to put these hard workers in harm's way. Please don't. Any 01:07:08
batteries. 01:07:11
Where we've collected over 40,000 pounds of batteries this year alone. 01:07:15
For some reason people think that. 01:07:20
They could be recycled. 01:07:22
What you can do is you can. 01:07:23
Deliver them to us at our household hazardous waste facility. A lot of places have drop off areas. I'm not sure if your library or 01:07:26
City Hall does. 01:07:30
Otherwise. 01:07:35
The most simple thing you could do? Collect it at home, put it in a plastic bag you could put on top of your blue recycle bin on 01:07:36
your on on collection day and they'll come and pick it up. 01:07:40
The garbage driver will come and take it out, so if the if there's the most important message I could bring to you today, there's 01:07:46
no plastic bags or batteries in your blue bin. Thank you. 01:07:51
Next slide please. 01:07:56
Our landfill, we have a class 3 non hazardous landfill. That means we don't collect hazardous materials there. It spans 350 acres. 01:07:59
We have 100 years of capacity which is very rare in California and. 01:08:05
And in most places, we're not building new ones. 01:08:13
That's very lucky for us. 01:08:16
But we are thinking about at our agency, we're a public agency. We're thinking about future generations. We're not just dumping 01:08:17
things in there, even though it is a revenue source. We want to conserve as much space as possible. 01:08:23
And that's our job as a public agency. So recycling education and SB1383 will help significantly, which I will talk about later. 01:08:29
Again we are. 01:08:38
Doing our best to protect the environment, we have it the landfills are engineered with controls in place to West separate that 01:08:40
waste safely from the environment. 01:08:44
There's layers of clay and plastic liner and piping systems that protect. 01:08:49
There's gases from being released. 01:08:55
It's keeping the. 01:08:57
Garbage in the landfill? 01:08:59
We have. 01:09:01
On the top right there, you'll see. 01:09:02
Landfill gas, Well, we have a hundred of those. Those collect landfill gas methane from going into the atmosphere. 01:09:04
We also. 01:09:11
Have piping that collects any liquids that come from the garbage and when it rains. 01:09:13
We collect that liquid and we sprinkle it back on top so that the waste can decompose. 01:09:19
Faster and it. 01:09:25
Again, it's it's all about how do we collect space. 01:09:26
We got these heavy equipment. They're constantly molding and shaping all that garbage to compress it as much as possible. They're 01:09:30
doing that all day long. 01:09:33
And that again, it's also we can have as much space as possible in our landfill. So we've been saying we have 100 year capacity 01:09:37
for a long time. 01:09:41
Umm. 01:09:46
Say, is there anything else with that? I don't think so. Ohh yeah ohh. The other last thing is at the end of each night. 01:09:47
We we cover the landfill with six inches of material. It's usually like a low grade compost, so. 01:09:53
We're trying to do our best to be, you know, good neighbors and protect. 01:10:00
Are. 01:10:05
Residents from any impacts from the landfill. 01:10:06
Landfill gas energy. This is exciting to talk to you about. So when organic materials are compacted and they rot in the landfill, 01:10:11
it creates methane gas. 01:10:14
Which is? 01:10:18
One of the worst. 01:10:20
Greenhouse gas as possible. It's. 01:10:22
Exponentially more potent than carbon dioxide. 01:10:24
And remarkably, we removed that gas through those hundred wells that I was talking about and we transform it into renewable energy 01:10:28
and it powers our entire operation. 01:10:33
Not only that, we power our entire out, we. 01:10:38
Are the engines in there? 01:10:41
They. 01:10:43
They. 01:10:45
Generate about 5 megawatts. So our facility requires one MW and the rest of it is brought back here into the community, back into 01:10:47
the grid. 01:10:51
And enough to power about 4000 homes. 01:10:57
So we're really proud that we were one of the first facilities in the country. 01:10:59
To have this in the 80s. And so not only are we fighting climate change, by not allowing that methane to be released in the 01:11:04
environment, we're also creating renewable power. 01:11:08
OK. Next slide. 01:11:14
As well as ways if you have any. 01:11:17
Batteries paint solvents. 01:11:21
Light bulbs bring them to us, we'll take it for free and we'll be instead of disposing of it. So the landfill, we don't want that 01:11:23
material in the landfill. 01:11:27
We'll take it £1 million of household hazardous waste and electronic waste is collected here. We get about 40 to 90 customers per 01:11:32
day. 01:11:36
So if you have both computers, old printers come and drop it off. 01:11:40
Our top items are paint, batteries, solvents and light bulbs and 60% of the material that people drop off. There's still some 01:11:44
usable material in there, so we actually have a table right outside as you can see on the top left. 01:11:50
And we have paint tables too. Come, come by and see me before you go out to the store and buy some if you're in the area. 01:11:57
Come pick up some paint. Come pick up some household cleaners, auto fluids. We got a we got a lot. 01:12:04
So. 01:12:10
We're proud of of that program as well. It's really popular. 01:12:11
Alright, Next slide please. 01:12:15
Composting We have an on site contractor doing this. The Keith Day company. They process 130. 01:12:17
1000 tons of combos a year, and they're collecting food scraps and yard trimming. 01:12:23
Composting is the control decomposition of that organic material using microbes. 01:12:29
And we grind the material first. That's what you're seeing in that. You're seeing the bottom portion is what's dropped off. 01:12:34
And then the top is we're grinding it and increasing that. 01:12:40
Serve this area so that more microbes can attack it so they can decompose faster. 01:12:44
Umm. 01:12:48
We use this what's called open windrow composting. There they get, they get to sit out there. It takes about 90 to 120 days and we 01:12:49
turn it using machines 15 to 20 times every three days. We had a lot of moisture with trucks. 01:12:56
Because. 01:13:04
And. 01:13:05
We need to add that moisture and turn it because. 01:13:06
The core of that? 01:13:09
Compost is we're trying to have it at 130 degrees or higher to heat up heat and kill all those pathogens like salmonella and E 01:13:10
coli. 01:13:14
And if we don't turn it and we don't moisturize it, it can spontaneously combust. It's really, really hot. 01:13:18
Heat and time is needed for that pathogen reduction. Weed seeds are killed. Foodborne illnesses are destroyed. 01:13:25
Our biggest customer our is farms. 01:13:31
And what we're really proud to say is 100% of the finished product is used in Monterey and Santa Cruz County, in landscaping and 01:13:34
agriculture especially. 01:13:38
So we're really trying to promote the program of giving us our food, because instead of it going to the landfill where it's 01:13:44
rotting and creating greenhouse gases, we're going to turn it into compost and we're going to give it back to the farms that are 01:13:50
growing local food. So it's the perfect example of a circular economy. 01:13:55
We also get we also make landscaping supplies out of all that green waste, the the trees that are felled and. 01:14:01
Construction materials, so we have a lot of landscaping supplies to like. 01:14:09
Soils and aggregates and wood chips, colored wood chips and things like that. So it's a great place to go shopping when you're 01:14:15
doing landscaping. 01:14:19
Mulches and things like that. 01:14:24
OK. Next slide please. 01:14:27
Last chance, Mercantile. Here's another great. 01:14:29
Most people like when they don't know where I'm when I say I work for region Monterey and they say I've never heard of that. I 01:14:33
say, do you know about Last Chance We're going to hell. And they say, Oh yeah, I know. I know what that is. So I'm like I I worked 01:14:37
next to Last Chance Mercantile. It's a reuse store. Where? 01:14:42
We diverted about 12,000 items a month from the landfill. 01:14:47
Residents can drop off items there and then we also have staff that are near the landfill and the recycling plant trying to 01:14:51
recover. 01:14:55
Used little items and you have you have you couldn't believe. 01:15:00
What great products that people are throwing away. 01:15:03
Bicycles, paintings and things like that. 01:15:06
I guess. 01:15:09
They don't think to stop, to stop the last chance first. They just. 01:15:10
A lot of them are junk callers or something like that. 01:15:13
So there we have staff that are recovering those items too and it's really important those things. 01:15:16
Like sofas and. 01:15:20
Surfboards and paintings and pots and pans, so things are heavy and they take up a lot of space. 01:15:22
So we're proud to have this great resource for the community. 01:15:27
It used to be run by us, but now it's contract operated by the Veterans Transition Center of California. 01:15:31
This is a great partnership. 01:15:36
Because it's an employment training program for homeless veterans. 01:15:38
And also the proceeds. 01:15:42
Benefit homeless veterans, local homeless veterans and their families with housing, food, clothing and other support services so. 01:15:45
Umm. 01:15:52
We're proud to have that partnership because it's not only diverting a lot of materials, it's an attraction to our site. 01:15:53
But we're also helping homeless veterans as well. 01:16:00
OK. Next slide please. 01:16:04
Briefly, I wanted to talk about our my office and why it's important. Because. 01:16:07
Umm. 01:16:13
We're rare. We have 4 communication staff. A lot of government agencies don't even have any communication staff. But I might be 01:16:15
biased, but I think it's important you know how else is. 01:16:20
A government agency going to explain what your services are and your accomplishments and your innovations and. 01:16:25
Your regulations. So I think it's an important thing to have. We have 4. 01:16:31
We do everything from tours, as you could see, presentations like this. 01:16:36
And industry groups we do, we come to. 01:16:41
Community events like good old days and. 01:16:46
West End Festival. 01:16:49
We have this fun what goes where game with. 01:16:50
It's a ******** game with items and you try and guess and. 01:16:54
People have people think they know, they really know what goes where, and you really learn that. 01:16:58
They have a lot to learn. 01:17:02
We also do media relations on the bottom. You'll see schools. We have a position, a newer, A newish position that he's focused on 01:17:04
schools because he had when I was a kid. 01:17:09
That's when the blue bin was introduced to school and I grew up to be a lifelong. 01:17:15
Recycler. 01:17:19
But now kids, what we wanted them to learn is there's now going to be 3 streams and everyone has to get this in their head. You 01:17:20
have 3. 01:17:23
Trash cans in your house. You have three in your. 01:17:26
And you're at your business and you know, you have to get used to that green, green, blue. 01:17:28
And Gray or black or whatever. 01:17:33
So if they learn at a young age, hopefully they go back home, they teach their families and they'll grow up just thinking it's, 01:17:36
it's normal, right? So it's very important that we focus a lot on the schools. 01:17:41
In the middle here you'll see George. 01:17:47
And some other Staffs. We also have this. 01:17:49
A technical advisory committee. 01:17:51
And we work with the haulers and all the city staff and city staff. We get together often to talk about what our new regulations, 01:17:54
what are our challenges, what our opportunities, and we try to have a unified message. 01:18:00
And so that. 01:18:06
Because there's, as you can hear, there's a lot of information, so. 01:18:08
It helps to have George and others. 01:18:12
To give their advice and we all work together to get this information out to the community to make sure that we're following all 01:18:15
the laws. 01:18:18
Of the of the state. 01:18:22
So yeah, it's all, it's all in person. It's traditional, it's digital outreach because everyone consumes information in different 01:18:25
ways. You know, I I run our social media account, not everyone's on that. So we like to be there in person. We like to do the 01:18:30
tours, we like to put in the newspaper. I think we do a good job at. 01:18:35
Trying to get information in many different ways. 01:18:41
SB1383 brand new law. 01:18:44
Food waste separation that I've been talking about was required as of January 1st, 2002 and we've. 01:18:47
The state is giving all these communities 2 years for educational period and the reason is. 01:18:53
I was talking, as I talked about earlier, we're trying to get rid of methane. 01:18:59
Because landfills emit 20% of. 01:19:03
Of methane emissions in the state, so the goal is to reduce organic waste disposal by 75% by 2025. Enforcement is beginning this 01:19:06
January. 01:19:11
And the other great element of it is 20% of currently disposed edible food must be recovered. 01:19:19
For human consumption by 2025, What does that mean? Restaurants. Grocery stores? 01:19:26
Hotels. Schools. Conference centers. 01:19:32
They're generating a lot of food. 01:19:35
We don't want to see that. 01:19:37
Dumpsters full of bread loafs anymore. 01:19:39
Like we're starting as our agency is working on an app where. 01:19:42
Because this will be required that businesses are going to be required to do this. 01:19:50
But we're gonna have this handy app where they could put food on on there that connects to food banks. 01:19:53
And other organizations. 01:19:58
That can donate to hungry people in our community, so that's a very important part of the law as well. 01:20:02
OK. Next slide please. 01:20:10
Food insecurity Major issue in the state and locally. 01:20:12
And so, and so is a massive disposal of food into our landfill. California serway, 6 million tons of food every year. Again, it's 01:20:15
creating methane. 01:20:19
You could see how much food takes up the landfill. Again, that's going to save us landfill space. 01:20:24
That's it. Great. 01:20:30
Monterey County has the dubious distinction of being the childhood poverty capital of California, at 30%. 01:20:32
A lot of hungry people here. 01:20:40
One in three children and one in four adults are affected by food scarcity in our county. 01:20:42
And 34% of county residents cannot afford food consistently. 01:20:47
What if we had? 01:20:52
A resource where we had all this food that could be donated. 01:20:54
That's part of this law where working really hard to connect. 01:20:57
These organizations that are keeping food. 01:21:01
And giving them out. We're giving out grants. 01:21:05
We've been getting a lot of grants. 01:21:08
To these food banks so that they can build more. 01:21:10
Refrigerators. 01:21:15
Trucks to transport storage areas. 01:21:17
So we're working really hard on that right now. 01:21:20
OK. Food, scrap. It's at home. There's my green bin right there. I don't always have that much. 01:21:25
Yard waste. So that's a rare example of some. Usually it's just food. 01:21:31
Are you Are you all collecting your food scraps at home? 01:21:36
OK, great. 01:21:39
Here, you know you could have a pail. 01:21:41
I brought some pails, if anybody wants any. 01:21:43
It's pretty simple. We just don't want any raw meats or liquids and most importantly. 01:21:46
We don't want any bags trash. 01:21:52
Or food, where? Even if it's labeled compostable or biodegradable. 01:21:55
Why food scraps only? 01:21:58
When possible or bad, degradable bags or food were included in the stream. 01:22:01
Those materials are screened out by hand, just like they do in their cycle. 01:22:06
We're trying to pull them out. 01:22:10
And they're being taken to the landfill because in our operations, they're trash. 01:22:11
And I'm an explain why. 01:22:16
If you go to the next slide please. 01:22:19
So here's that staff right there. They're pulling out the bags that residents are putting in. In there. We have lots of staff. 01:22:21
They're just out there all day. 01:22:24
Picking them out. 01:22:28
Why? 01:22:31
Compostable materials contain chemicals and materials that can degrade the quality of compost. 01:22:32
They have what are called Pfos. 01:22:39
In them they're, you know, you see them in your disposable cups, that liner, it's. 01:22:41
Allowing you to use these the food where to eat and not get them soiled. 01:22:46
But those are chemicals. 01:22:51
And when they break down, they leach into the compost. 01:22:53
And what kind of crops do we grow here? 01:22:57
Ohh mainly. 01:23:00
Road crafts. 01:23:01
Strawberries. 01:23:02
Leafy greens. 01:23:03
Those chemicals can still remain Despite that composting process, and they could leach into our food and. 01:23:05
We're gonna be eating that stuff. So it's it's been kind of frustrating for residents and this is probably the most frustrating 01:23:11
thing to residents. 01:23:14
And I'm talking about all the time whenever I go to these. 01:23:18
Yeah, whenever I go to. 01:23:21
The community meetings, but what we really? 01:23:24
Like recycling? 01:23:27
It's all based on our markets and our markets here are organic farmers. 01:23:29
And organic farmers can test for this stuff. 01:23:34
And it cannot. Their food will not be considered. 01:23:38
Organic if it contains. 01:23:41
Chemicals. 01:23:43
So. 01:23:44
We are one of the. 01:23:46
Few organizations and communities. 01:23:47
That are implementing this program that say we. 01:23:51
We do not accept biodegradable, compostable material. 01:23:53
And the other reason is that our process takes 90 to 120 days and there are no regulations that. 01:23:57
That tell you exactly what is compostable or biodegradable. It can take a week, it could take months, it could take. 01:24:04
Years. 01:24:10
So once we open the door to saying we can. 01:24:11
I mean, you can. 01:24:14
Suggest a brand or something, but. 01:24:15
That opens the door to all these other bags coming in and what we're just trying to do is create this really rich quality. 01:24:18
Compost that we It's really in demand. 01:24:24
That the stuff that we that we make because of that, if you go to other regions, I've been on tours of other composting, compost 01:24:27
composting operations. 01:24:31
They have it just looks like. 01:24:35
Trash filled with food and yard 20 drinks if you come to us. 01:24:37
And maybe you can go to the next slide. 01:24:43
You could see the difference. 01:24:45
On the left here is some nice rich looking compost that looks like you'd want to grow your food in. Would you want to grow your 01:24:47
food in the other? 01:24:50
Other. 01:24:54
Slide, so the others other the slide, the picture on the right is actually our commercial stream. So this predates the residential 01:24:55
stream by about 10 years. 01:24:59
And because restaurants, they don't have them at yard trimmings. 01:25:03
And you know, when they're taking out restaurants filled with food, you know, there's a lot of liquids, we are allowing those 01:25:07
compostable bags. 01:25:10
And. 01:25:13
And it's kind of a test run for our residential stream. We didn't know that this was going to be a law. 01:25:14
But what we found through is. 01:25:19
That this material, this compost, is very low quality. 01:25:22
It's hard to find sellers for it. We are selling it to vineyards to grow grapes. 01:25:26
Because the food you know doesn't have the grapes. Don't have to touch it. 01:25:33
And also for like limited landscaping operation. 01:25:37
Applications but. 01:25:41
For the most part, it's invaluable. 01:25:43
We let that start, We let those piles sit for a little bit longer, 5-6 months. 01:25:45
But again, it's not not very good quality. 01:25:51
It doesn't work in our normal stream. Again, the circular economy that I talked about, there's a picture of what it looks like 01:25:54
when it's dropped off and it's grown in the back and our largest. 01:25:59
Customer base are these are the row crops? 100% goes up, goes out there. 01:26:06
OK. 01:26:12
Umm. 01:26:13
Great. So yeah, I was talking about schools again. 01:26:15
Here's a picture of. 01:26:18
Motor Beach Charter School here in Pacific Grove, they're doing a great job. They're they're leaders. 01:26:21
We we go out there and we teach them what goes where. We help set them set up these stations, maybe go to the next slide. 01:26:26
Yeah. So we're helping set up sorting stations in our lunch room. We do training and presentations and. 01:26:35
Assemblies, we collaborate with staff and teachers and student volunteers. Student volunteers are really important. They, you 01:26:40
know, they stand at the stations in the beginning to make sure that people, the kids are putting on their rights, the right place. 01:26:46
And really it's just inspiring those sustainable habits and a commitment to the environment early. 01:26:51
And then the hope is that there are little ambassadors that bring this. 01:26:57
Back to their homes. 01:27:00
OK. And this is kind of like the station that we kind of have them set up and at the end there you see the food share. So we're 01:27:03
encouraging, don't throw it away. 01:27:07
A lot of this stuff is packaged. If you have any packaged food you don't want to eat or any produce. 01:27:11
Stick it in there and then. 01:27:16
Kids that are hungry can like, bring some extra food home. 01:27:18
OK. Next slide. 01:27:23
So yeah, I just wanted to finish with some images around our facility on the unofficial photographer and I manage our social media 01:27:26
account I like to use. 01:27:29
You know, really rich and evocative. 01:27:34
Imagery to inspire those behavior changes. 01:27:36
And inspire residents to protect the planet and understand as a. 01:27:40
That as a community, we're all doing a great job. It's sorting our waste and turning it into resources. But we all we still have a 01:27:44
lot of work to do. 01:27:47
You go to the next slide. 01:27:52
Yeah, we got great. 01:27:55
We got great wildlife out there. It's really colorful. 01:27:56
I was like, how am I going to promote this place when I first got the job and then I just. 01:28:01
When you walk around with the camera, just really. 01:28:05
Really beautiful, you know, things to see. I've lived here for 20 years. 01:28:07
I moved here in 2002 to go to CSUB and I just really fell in love with this area. 01:28:12
I'm going to live here forever. 01:28:16
And you have wanted to serve my community? 01:28:17
Umm. 01:28:20
And work to protect the qualities that make this place special. 01:28:21
And. 01:28:25
This place is really inspiring. There's so much innovation. 01:28:26
There's lots of activities that's going around and bring out the kid in me. You could just. 01:28:29
It's unusual. Heavy equipment and garbage trucks and. 01:28:33
Semi trucks, noise colors, steam coming from the land, the compost yard. 01:28:36
Everyone's hustling around. You really get to see the. 01:28:41
Economy at work here and see all the hard workers that we have here in the community so. 01:28:44
We have so many great environmental organizations and groups like you guys. 01:28:50
That are willing that believe in this place. 01:28:56
And are willing to. 01:28:59
Do what's right to. 01:29:02
You know, help protect our little community and. 01:29:04
Inspire others So we The very first year the award was created. 01:29:06
This organization won the best. 01:29:10
Waste Management district in the country the very first year that board was created, so we're doing a good job. 01:29:13
And we appreciate you being involved. 01:29:18
And passionate residents and volunteers like you are critical partners to making sure we're successful. So thank you. 01:29:21
Yes, yeah. But that, yeah, that hawk. 01:29:32
Isn't using it, but. 01:29:34
It's a good perch, but yeah, we do have owl boxes. 01:29:36
We have quite a bit, so we actually have a Falconer on site too. 01:29:40
Because we we want to use as much natural. 01:29:44
Pest abatement is possible, so we have a full time Falconer. 01:29:48
We have a lot of owl boxes. 01:29:52
So we try to encourage birds of prey to be on our site. 01:29:54
No way. 01:30:00
Yeah. 01:30:01
These chronicle that. 01:30:06
Governor Newsom has signed a bill. 01:30:07
And I'm thinking about rats and you talk about natural predators and. 01:30:10
Just as a a note. 01:30:15
Because I know the city. 01:30:17
Contracts with the. 01:30:18
A rat collection agency. 01:30:20
But the. 01:30:22
Predominant. 01:30:23
Chemical that is used to kill the rats, which is an anticoagulant. 01:30:24
That then gets into the food chain. 01:30:28
Has been outlawed. 01:30:31
So I don't know what. 01:30:33
It didn't talk, didn't talk about what might be a substitute, but sidebar. But I have two questions. 01:30:34
What about? 01:30:41
Coffee grounds and the filters, especially if they're brown. If it's the brown filter. 01:30:44
Yes, we'll. We'll definitely take coffee grounds. 01:30:49
The filter for some reason it has. This predates me on the in itself. 01:30:53
Includes. 01:30:59
The actual paper, so I guess. 01:31:00
When they were coming up with that program, I think they felt that was somewhat marginal and they're usually. 01:31:04
Together. Same with tea bags, so. 01:31:09
Those are fine to put in there I I try and throw those in the garbage but. 01:31:13
I think when they're coming up with the program, there's certain things like copy and. 01:31:18
Tea that they don't want. 01:31:22
They don't want people having to work too hard, so it's so it's such a marginal amount to that. 01:31:25
It's OK, but as much as possible we want just food. And my other question is. 01:31:30
That. 01:31:37
Nasty Styrofoam. 01:31:39
I used to live in Santa Cruz in Gray berries. You're probably familiar with over there has a. 01:31:41
Remarkable full circle. 01:31:45
Program. 01:31:48
With materials, namely and. 01:31:50
Household goods and machines and things. 01:31:52
That they restore and sell, but they also do recycling and they take Styrofoam. 01:31:55
And my older son I just visited this weekend in San Diego County. 01:32:01
They can put out Styrofoam there. Is there any process, any possibility we might be able to do that at some point? 01:32:07
Yeah, again, it's I I go back to. 01:32:14
What are their markets? Certain places have different markets. 01:32:17
Like for example. 01:32:20
I would. I've been here for a year and a half and the very first year we were bailing. 01:32:22
Milk cartons and the schools were doing a great job at. 01:32:27
Separating the Milk cartoons. 01:32:32
And then we couldn't sell them. We just had piles of. 01:32:34
Piles of bales of Milk Cartoons and now we. 01:32:37
We can't recycle them, so things change like. 01:32:40
And. 01:32:44
That's just the reality of each. 01:32:45
Each Waste management district. 01:32:49
So we look into. We're constantly looking. 01:32:52
At different markets. 01:32:55
But as far as I know, I don't think there's many. 01:32:58
Ways to recycle Styrofoam, and that's why you're seeing more. 01:33:01
More bands, like most of the cities here on the Peninsula, band entirely just because it's. 01:33:05
It's a material that doesn't recycle very well, so no milk cartoons, no milk burns. 01:33:11
Gosh, I thought I read that that was OK OK, no, not anymore. But again, that's a recent. 01:33:16
That's a recent change and that's the recent big change. 01:33:23
And so when those kinds of things occur, we. 01:33:26
We try and push out that information when when it comes. 01:33:29
Thank you. 01:33:32
Have a question? 01:33:34
How are people? 01:33:36
What percentage of people are complying with 1383? 01:33:37
And is it, you know, are you seeing a trend? 01:33:41
That's maybe Robin, you want to come up here and join Eric. 01:33:47
Hi. So I mostly deal with the compliance numbers for Pacific Grove for SB1383 right now, mostly for businesses we're in like the 01:33:55
60%. 01:34:00
That are in compliance a lot of the issues with specifically with Pacific Grove and Carmel by the CR spatial constraints not 01:34:07
everybody has. 01:34:11
The space to put 3 streams. 01:34:15
So we're really working on those businesses of seeing maybe like doing a trash and a compost if you're like a restaurant, but you 01:34:18
don't have like all the space. 01:34:22
Or doing trash and recycling if you're not even producing any kind of organics, like if you're a warehouse and. 01:34:27
Or an auto Body Shop you're not going to have. 01:34:33
Food or yard trimmings. 01:34:36
Will push more for, well, you're going to have cardboard, you're going to have plastics. 01:34:38
Do the two stream get a waiver for the compost? So we're looking at like 60s? 01:34:43
What would you estimate residential? 01:34:49
I don't. 01:34:52
Fully work with residential. 01:34:53
Those would be a little bit higher just because you would. 01:34:56
Have the free recycling and then you would just sign up for compost and. 01:34:59
To my knowledge, this area is pretty. 01:35:04
Straightforward with the compost like they're. 01:35:06
Big in favour of it. 01:35:08
Excellent. Thank you. 01:35:11
Yeah, I don't have I I personally don't work on that, but we. 01:35:12
I don't know if George, you know, I don't wanna put you on the spot, but we. 01:35:17
Umm. 01:35:22
Recently did what's called like lid flipping studies where you go to certain areas, but I personally didn't work on that and I 01:35:23
don't have that information available yet. 01:35:28
But that's kind of to get a. 01:35:34
An idea from each. 01:35:37
Jurisdiction how well we're doing. So that's kind of gonna be. 01:35:39
Could be like an enforcement strategy where they're not digging through. 01:35:45
Digging through bins or anything, it's just kind of like a a quick flip, it's called, it's called lip flip and just hopefully you 01:35:50
don't see you know just to see if there's any food in the in the green to get like a baseline before the January. 01:35:56
Enforcement. 01:36:02
Yeah. 01:36:04
Have another question, Excuse me, chair, Chair Myers, if you don't mind soliciting member consent before we continue the 01:36:06
discussion. Ohh, that's that's great. 01:36:10
Yes, public comment please. 01:36:15
Doesn't look like we have anyone in person. And we have one one hand raised, so I'll open the floor for Lisa Channing. 01:36:18
Thank you. 01:36:25
Thank you. Wow this was this was a great presentation and it is just mind boggling. What? 01:36:27
What is done with? 01:36:35
With all our waste and the fact that that. 01:36:37
Ohh the improvement over when I was growing up is is is just amazing. 01:36:40
The and I and I so appreciate the food waste. 01:36:47
That that we can do now in our green spins because. 01:36:53
We used to when we lived in San Diego we had a compost pilot, but in our house here in PG we are surrounded with trees and we 01:36:57
couldn't get enough. 01:37:03
A good sunny spot where where we could do it. So it's great to have the food waste opportunity and the yeah yeah it's it's it 01:37:09
takes more than what you normally will put in your household compost but my my frustration is with. 01:37:18
Umm. 01:37:28
E-waste well. 01:37:30
Yeah, and hazard hazardous waste because of the like fluorescent tubes and all. 01:37:32
Because it's kind of a long ways up to the Marina facility. I mean, I know it's. 01:37:38
It's it's a great place but but it it it is a long drive. 01:37:43
And I'm always wanting to know local more close to home places. 01:37:48
That I can take those things because. 01:37:54
Here we're we're forced to use. 01:37:56
Light bulbs now that that you can't just put in the trash. 01:37:59
Umm. 01:38:03
And so that's the frustration to me. I've found there's a paint recycling. 01:38:04
Outfit now so that we can take our paint. 01:38:10
Ohh locally and. 01:38:14
Umm. 01:38:16
And and it's great, we can put the batteries on top of the, I think it's the recycle can. I always have to look it up, but I think 01:38:17
that's where it is in a zip lock bag. 01:38:22
But. 01:38:27
If does. 01:38:28
Region. 01:38:31
Have. 01:38:33
Neighbourhood or or community? 01:38:35
You waste events or and hazardous waste events. 01:38:40
And and is there a way to find out about them? 01:38:44
You know, so that we don't have to. 01:38:48
Travel so far. 01:38:50
And keep those things all stored, you know? 01:38:52
At home. 01:38:57
Until we. 01:38:58
Make the trip. 01:38:59
Yeah, that's a really good question. That's a very good feedback. We do sometimes host or sponsor, help sponsor those e-waste 01:39:01
events. 01:39:05
Or hazardous waste events. 01:39:10
I remember as a resident I would. 01:39:12
Collect mine and then drop them off at NBC. 01:39:14
My pencil college. 01:39:18
Every once in a while. 01:39:20
That that I, I don't know that the answer to that, Yeah, I guess it is. 01:39:23
Does take? 01:39:27
Finding out. 01:39:29
Where those areas are in the community that you can do those drops off drop offs. 01:39:30
I'd like to ask Robin, because I know. 01:39:35
Residents do get. 01:39:39
A certain amount of free, what they call bulky item pickups, and I know those are items aren't. 01:39:41
Bulky per se. 01:39:47
Umm. 01:39:49
But can. 01:39:50
A box large box be collected with these materials and dropped off for a fee or free. 01:39:51
Yeah. So everybody gets one free pick up, bulky pickup, typically that's going to be more for like couches, refrigerators of those 01:39:59
appliances. 01:40:03
But you're always more than welcome to call our customer service and say, hey, I have a box of items. 01:40:07
That. 01:40:14
Needs to be disposed of and we can work with our drivers on having that picked up. Like if you have batteries you can put them on 01:40:15
a. 01:40:18
Baggy put them on your. 01:40:22
Trash. 01:40:24
Been and. 01:40:24
Leave a note like batteries and then our driver will see grab them so they don't go in our truck because they will also explode in 01:40:25
our truck just like they cause fires. 01:40:29
At the landfill. 01:40:34
You. 01:40:37
Finch. 01:40:38
So I highly recommend that bulky item pick up and using that because you get you do get a certain amount of year A year so not 01:40:40
yeah, I'm glad Robin's here to explain that. 01:40:44
You can collect those other items, but if you. 01:40:50
Use them, You know, like if you if you have two or three pickups, one to three pickups a year. 01:40:54
And they'll come and pick up an old couch or. 01:41:00
Things that are hanging out in your backyard that have been there for a while. 01:41:03
Right. 01:41:07
Right, right. I highly recommend using them. I have a pile in my yard of. 01:41:08
Or ladder and things like that that I make sure that I spaced out that benefit throughout the year. 01:41:12
Thank you so much. 01:41:21
The answer is you're right. 01:41:23
Yes, we have one hand raised Angolans in Delmar. 01:41:25
Thank you very much. 01:41:31
Well, I'm better recycler. 01:41:33
Since before you were born, son, So here I am. 01:41:35
Umm, I was trying to work with Caleb Schneider who was George first predecessor. 01:41:40
Umm. 01:41:46
Before on the food waste, because we used to have yellow bins at one was at the farmers market and then. 01:41:48
Uh. 01:41:56
Behind the kind of the alleyway by the museum. 01:41:57
They had some bins there, public bins that I could. I brought down my food waste every week and dropped it off there. 01:42:00
And of course, now we can put it in our. 01:42:09
Greenway Spins. 01:42:11
My problem, and I think a lot of people's, is I don't have any other green waste. 01:42:12
And compost in a large green waste bin. 01:42:19
Well, even in my little pale inside my house in this heat. 01:42:24
I ended up with maggots in it. 01:42:28
Before I got it out OK, that was a first for me. 01:42:32
And I asked Caleb if, when this was switching over to putting it in the Greenway spins, if it was a possibility that we could have 01:42:38
a yellow waste bin on our block for collection that all the neighbors could put it in. I said I would even host it on my property. 01:42:48
So that we could host one dedicated. 01:42:58
Food waste because none of us, we don't have. Some of them have gardeners, but they've got rocks and. 01:43:02
And and succulence is their yard. 01:43:08
I believe me, I don't have a landscaper and I don't water. So it's like, what do we do? We don't have the green waste to to layer 01:43:13
in with the food compost. 01:43:19
So my neighbor across the street, bless his heart. 01:43:24
I take mine over and put my compost into his green waste bin, which is kind of the dedicated one, but it would be so lovely to 01:43:28
have a yellow bin. 01:43:33
Uncertain blocks that we could all. 01:43:39
Contribute to so that we don't have maggots in our green waste bins. And this is really kind of a ugly thing. It's like the rats. 01:43:42
So this would be a really interesting thing. 01:43:53
That for like senior people, which a lot of us in Pacific Grove are in Carmel. 01:43:57
That if you did something for us because we don't have a lot of even if a gardener comes, I mean I do a major cleanup once or 01:44:04
twice a year. 01:44:09
But that's. 01:44:14
Not enough to. 01:44:15
Absolutely violate and stink up a big green waste bin, and we don't have the water to wash them out every week either. 01:44:19
So please address something like this, because I love and I will always recycle, but we need more. 01:44:26
Thank you. 01:44:34
I'm very happy you brought that up because I forgot to add that is part of my presentation. 01:44:36
Umm. 01:44:40
So there are some things you can do. 01:44:42
At my house I don't have very much. 01:44:47
Yard waste either I just. 01:44:49
And I have. 01:44:52
Eight people. 01:44:56
On my property. 01:44:57
Three children. 01:44:58
Can you imagine how much food waste we generate when you don't have a yard waste? So the majority of our stuff is food and 01:45:00
sometimes it get filled or garbage bag. 01:45:04
Are. 01:45:09
So. 01:45:11
In order to avoid pests, there are a few things you can do. One thing I do do is when I do do some yard work, I make sure to keep. 01:45:12
A nice pile like on the side. 01:45:21
You know, so at least I have a little bit every every week. 01:45:25
To keep as a bottom layer on there so you could put the food on top of there. 01:45:29
The other thing you could do, especially if you have only a little bit of food. 01:45:33
Is keep your container in your freezer. 01:45:37
And let it. 01:45:39