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Strives for actual excellence in their role as Commissioner, so I hope we'll all get on the page and. 00:01:46
Flex our parliamentary muscles here. 00:01:54
Thank you so much so. 00:01:56
We have agenda and supporting documents in the packet. These were circulated in advance advance of today's meeting. 00:02:00
And are available for download on the EDC page of the city website. 00:02:07
Are there any questions on the order of agenda items from Commissioners? 00:02:12
I do have a one myself. 00:02:19
Actually, is that OK to ask a question answered and we have a contributor from Zen City who is the company that made the the small 00:02:21
Business Report and they're the last item on the agenda and because they're on payroll and visiting and so on, I think we should 00:02:28
put them first. 00:02:34
So I'll I'll make a. 00:02:40
Motion for moving agenda item number 10 up to agenda item number. 00:02:42
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The first one in our regular. 00:02:50
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Any questions, comments? 00:02:56
No, OK, I move to do that. Any seconds. 00:02:59
I second that. OK. Thank you, Kelsey. 00:03:01
Yes. 00:03:05
Item Exactly. So item 6 is not our first one, so yeah. 00:03:08
So exactly so. 00:03:12
Thank you so much. I think that will help things flow. All right now. 00:03:14
Ohh, that's vote. 00:03:22
So Laurel. 00:03:26
Are you doing roll call? 00:03:27
Yes, I am. OK, so. 00:03:29
Need a motion by the chair, So Chair Jacobs. 00:03:33
Yeah, Vice Chair Jacobs I ohh did. But you say I. 00:03:38
I ohh sorry Commissioner Richmond. 00:03:41
Yeah. 00:03:45
Aye. 00:03:46
Commissioner Gibbs. 00:03:47
Yep. 00:03:49
Commissioner. 00:03:51
Markowitz and Commissioner Hoops. 00:03:53
OK. So we have moved item 10 to the regular agenda, item 6. 00:03:57
Right. 00:04:03
Thank you everyone. 00:04:03
Umm. 00:04:05
You know, we might have skipped over. 00:04:06
Our attendance roll call. 00:04:08
Do we need to do that? 00:04:11
Yes, we do. 00:04:14
We do, yeah. OK. 00:04:16
I'm sorry, Laura, would you help us with that? OK. I'll just do a quick roll call, Commissioner Gibbs. 00:04:18
I'm here, Commissioner Richmond. 00:04:24
Present. Vice Chair Jacobs. Present. 00:04:26
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President, CEO, McMurdo. 00:04:32
Here. 00:04:35
Umm. 00:04:36
Commissioner Markowitz, Commissioner Hoops. And we do have, Commissioner, the nutty remote that we weren't alerted to. 00:04:37
Have her participate in the meeting, but she can participate as a member of the public. 00:04:46
OK. 00:04:51
Hey. 00:04:53
All right. Thank you. So we've approved the agenda with making one alteration. So now is the moment where I can ask for 00:04:54
announcements from commissioners present or city staff present. 00:05:01
Yeah, Jenny. 00:05:11
There are a few special events, community events that are coming up in September, actually quite a few. So I wanted to give you a 00:05:13
couple of those. Green Gables is having a community open house on Tuesday, September 19th. They have done an extensive renovation 00:05:20
and they want to show the community, they want to show it off to the community. So it's from 4:30 to 6:30 on September 19th and 00:05:28
everyone in the community is invited to that. Our annual flavors of Pacific Grove where you get to walk around to the different. 00:05:35
Restaurants and a sample. Some of the beverages that are made here in PG is on Thursday, September 28th. 00:05:43
From 5:30 to 8:00, So that's coming up here at the end of September. And then our rock and the jewel, which is open to the public 00:05:51
as well, all of these are from the public. 00:05:55
Will be on Friday September 29th, the day after flavours. And that's at Jewel Park. And this month the band is the Wharf Rats so, 00:06:00
and they're very popular in this area. 00:06:06
That's all. Thank you. 00:06:12
Wonderful. 00:06:13
I've got an announcement that I'm bringing from the Business Improvement District. 00:06:15
So the BID is organizing a business interest consortium of representatives from the full swathe of local business interest groups, 00:06:20
including the BID, the HID, the EDC, the MCB and the Chamber. 00:06:26
The purpose of the group is to share current news. 00:06:33
Keep communication open amongst all the actors in this area. Also to lobby the Council if there is a perceived need regarding 00:06:36
advocating for such interests. Historically this consortium did exist and it was felt to be an enormous bonus for the community, 00:06:42
so at the next BID meeting it will be developed, discussed, any downtown business owners are welcome to attend and participate and 00:06:48
members of the public. 00:06:55
Also umm. 00:07:02
Yeah, this is a month of a lot of things happening. So the week of September 18th to 24th is going to be an event, a week long 00:07:04
event in Pacific Grove called Paint the Town Purple. It is a fundraiser for the Alzheimer's Association. 00:07:11
There will be. 00:07:18
Written it down three, well, three TV stations and social media covering the event. So it doesn't cost anything. We're just 00:07:23
encouraging people to participate in the Alzheimer's Walk, which is on September the, I'm sorry, October the 7th. 00:07:31
It's a fundraiser, All their services are free and this is the one time of the year when they raise money, so we are helping them 00:07:39
to do that. 00:07:43
There will be on September the 13th in the backroom of Wild Fish Restaurant. There will be a meeting for local business people. 00:07:46
Everyone is welcome to attend. You'll be given information, collateral and so on. So there's that. And then I am going to say 00:07:54
there's another fundraiser for the Monterey Bay Fisheries Trust and that is a dinner at Wild Fish Restaurant. 00:08:01
It goes for their program to supply affordable fish to local people in need. 00:08:10
So. 00:08:17
Any other announcements? 00:08:18
Yes, Mike, I'm sorry, Commissioner gives. 00:08:20
Mr. Jacobs, thank you. Just have one. The Monterey Bay Economic Partnership has got a luncheon. It's at the capital of Library on 00:08:23
September 13th. It's a leadership luncheon. So there'll be. 00:08:28
Kind of based on what you said, but leaders from the wider Monterey area will be. 00:08:33
Going to. 00:08:37
To the luncheon and meeting and greeting and, you know, sharing issues, so it's a good thing. 00:08:39
And can I make just just like a clarification on the two-minute rule? 00:08:43
It's not a rule. It's a recommendation, Recommendation, gotcha. So because the public, the public has three minutes, is that 00:08:48
right? Yeah. Well, this is when, because we're going through a lot of topics today. So it's generally like, OK, you know? 00:08:54
Views from everybody and yeah. 00:09:01
Thank you SO. 00:09:04
Yeah. 00:09:05
OK, so let us move on. Are there any announcements from our council liaison chaps, Poduri? Not sure. Is he here? Yeah, he is. He's 00:09:07
here. 00:09:12
Yes, thank you and hello, everyone. I just wanted to mention that I attended the MCB annual Meeting. 00:09:18
Last week. 00:09:26
It was a. 00:09:27
I would say well attended event with several stakeholders. 00:09:28
And a couple of key takeaways from me from that meeting was that MCB has rebranded the organization name from. 00:09:32
What What used to be known as Monterey County Convention and Visitors Bureau. 00:09:39
To see Monterey. 00:09:45
So it's kind of like simple for me too. 00:09:46
And the other thing too is they listed out a quite a few strategic initiatives and I think apart from the branding see Monterey 00:09:49
will now be looking to extend visitors day. 00:09:54
Which also translates to additional spend in the entire region. 00:10:00
So All in all that was a great meeting and and I look forward to seeing how we can grow from here. 00:10:03
Thanks. 00:10:09
Thank you so much. 00:10:12
Council member Poduri. 00:10:14
So on to general public comment. 00:10:17
This portion of the meeting is reserved for members of the public to address the Commission on any matter that's not on the agenda 00:10:19
but is under the jurisdiction of the Commission. 00:10:24
Comments from the public are limited to 3 minutes and do not receive EDC action. 00:10:28
Comments regarding items on the regular agenda shall be heard prior to the EDC's consideration of such items at the time those 00:10:35
items are called. 00:10:38
Whenever possible, written correspondence should be submitted to the CDC in advance of the meeting to provide adequate time for 00:10:43
consideration. 00:10:46
And thank you to everyone who's come to make a contribution. Are there any members of the public? 00:10:50
Who would like to make a comment at this time? 00:10:56
Is there right now. 00:11:09
OK. Hello, good afternoon. 00:11:11
My name is Vince Tuminello. I'm a local resident. 00:11:13
And. 00:11:17
Person of good character and. 00:11:19
Very well known in the community as such, and I want to mention to you that when I had my last small business in a small town just 00:11:21
a little bit larger than Pacific Grove, we face some of the same problems that you have. 00:11:28
And I've been coming to these EDC meetings for 25 years. 00:11:36
And I haven't really seen that much of A change. I mean, what you were experiencing, what you inherited is the result of 3540 00:11:40
years of former EDC people and what they were or weren't able to accomplish. So I think we need some new ideas. And I've seen some 00:11:47
of you in past meetings really come up with some good ideas about the art walk, the different functions and activities that you've 00:11:55
talked about. And I want to tell you about one that we used in the last city where I did business and was very successful. 00:12:02
We used to call it and it may have been a copyrighted name, I'm not sure. The Welcome Wagon. 00:12:10
You're familiar with that? 00:12:15
Well, it doesn't have to be under their auspices. You can do this. You know, you could just create your own welcome wagon type 00:12:17
thing. And basically how it works is that you working with the Chamber of Commerce is the Chamber of Commerce lady here? 00:12:23
OK, good. She's right there. OK, Working with the Chamber of Commerce and the EDC and maybe some other entities, you could decide 00:12:30
if you like this idea. You get together and you put a format together when new people move to town. 00:12:36
This is especially good for people from outside the area outside the state, and maybe people who have been underserved and maybe 00:12:43
lives in communities where they weren't respected as much as they are respected and welcomed in Pacific Grove. 00:12:49
And someone from this group, whatever organization you want to decide to call it if you like the idea, visits them and welcomes 00:12:56
them personally to the community, usually finds out who they are through the landlord or through the real estate people, and so 00:13:00
forth. 00:13:05
And has a little welcome package for them with information about the community. Maybe some maybe a pan. 00:13:10
Discount card, Whatever you know, you think about it. 00:13:18
And here you are. You just moved to Pacific Grove. You don't really know that much about the town and somebody's knocking on your 00:13:21
door or giving you a call to tell you they're coming over to welcome you to the community. I think it really worked well in the 00:13:25
last town I did business in. 00:13:30
And these people feel really welcome, you know, they get somebody, comes to greet them, a nice personality and maybe gives them a 00:13:35
few little tidbits, maybe a discount card for a restaurant or. 00:13:40
Something for shopping or it's sort of like if someone has a a branding that's around, you know? 00:13:46
Goofy social media presence, And that's their. 00:13:53
Their brand and their content that this doesn't sort of fit them. 00:13:56
No one's forcing them to do this, you know. So I think, I, I think to your point that that is correct, that consistency, 00:13:58
especially if we're going to put it on a city website, consistency in. 00:14:02
Even just volume levels on the business can make a huge difference, you know. 00:14:07
Yeah, lighting exposure things like this is, is is important to have kind of a through line of of professional quality so. 00:14:11
Something that I think will need to be considered is if. 00:14:19
If somebody wants to do their own video, can they do that? Like that's just that's gonna come up I'm sure that. So just down the 00:14:22
line, those sort of questions. But anyway everyone, has everyone had a chance to comment? Can we? 00:14:28
Umm. 00:14:34
I believe we need to. 00:14:36
Are we? 00:14:38
Hold on. 00:14:39
This was not. 00:14:43
Pardon. 00:14:45
We need to make a motion, I'll gladly make a motion on the very first thing and we are asked to receive this and vote correct. 00:14:47
Just discuss and consider. So we that's the way that it was. So there's no need to make a motion. It was just a discussion. 00:14:56
OK, three items of discussion. 00:15:05
And then? 00:15:07
We will come back. 00:15:09
With. 00:15:11
The plan next month and look at your overall budget, your goals, and discuss where we go from here next month. 00:15:12
OK. So I didn't hear anyone say not to think there's a lot of support, so but we will. 00:15:20
See this again next month. 00:15:28
So. 00:15:30
Umm. 00:15:31
OK. So our final agenda item is to discuss resources needed to further the goals of the EDC. 00:15:32
Including staffing to search for grants, funds and opportunities to ensure business retention and growth. Reference myself. 00:15:41
This was something I brought up at the end of the last meeting. 00:15:50
In looking at. 00:15:54
Our revenue streams and Pacific Grove. 00:15:56
We do have taxes, GOAT sales tax. There's also. 00:15:58
A lot of cities get funding from government grants or. 00:16:05
Private and public foundations anyway, and and I. 00:16:10
I'm not aware. I've done some research. It doesn't seem like we have a centralized. 00:16:14
Way of. 00:16:19
Finding out about. 00:16:22
Grant opportunities here in Pacific Grove, so. 00:16:23
I. 00:16:27
Kind of. 00:16:29
Excuse me just one second I. 00:16:34
Mates. 00:16:35
This, yeah. 00:16:37
And so our budget is 39 K per annum. 00:16:38
We have a lot of projects here. 00:16:43
Umm. 00:16:46
You know, they exceed our budget for sure. We've got the QR project, the concert series, the grant program. 00:16:47
Next month I know Anastasia is preparing a budget for us to look at the costs of things and to look at what we have and to game 00:16:56
plan about how we might want to explore sources of funding and and how we want to approach all that. 00:17:02
So, umm. 00:17:09
I think that it would be really proactive. Well, there are a lot of proactive things to do. 00:17:11
And it would be worth. 00:17:16
Considering having someone full time. 00:17:18
Or close to full time. 00:17:21
Who would be able to be a staff member for the EDC and? 00:17:23
Certainly explore grants and communicate. So there is still the research of looking at different forms. There's federal grants, 00:17:30
There's state grants. There's. 00:17:34
County grants. There's a you know public and private foundations and to communicate like once we have clear statements of goals 00:17:38
and. 00:17:43
What we want to achieve Then there's also the. 00:17:48
Issue of how we communicate to people who might be the actors that would benefit from it, do the you know. 00:17:52
Want to, you know, do the work with that grant so somebody who could. 00:17:59
Do grant writing as well. 00:18:05
So, umm. 00:18:08
I wanted to propose that we have a dedicated staff member, Laurel, who's working one day a week. 00:18:10
On the EDC, she works a total of four working days. 00:18:17
It would be great if she could. 00:18:23
Dedicate that time to working exclusively for the EDC and that's not something that we can decide. That has to go to council and 00:18:26
that's has to be Anastasia to make the the proposal. And there's a, you know, it's a whole. 00:18:33
Road to go down. 00:18:40
But. 00:18:43
Just the the kernel of. The idea is that other duties would be. 00:18:43
Uh. 00:18:49
Including economic development of maintaining our websites, our brokers launches leverage leveraging local resources like. 00:18:51
See Monterey, HID, BID, Cal, Ed, EDA, and DC all these. 00:18:59
Economic development groups. 00:19:04
And the ongoing work of business retention and expansion in our town. 00:19:06
So it's likely that the revenue from grants if we you know can systematically do this and and be awarded grants. 00:19:12
Would greatly offset this expense. 00:19:20
Also, I think that the resulting attention to development would bring a lot more development to our town. 00:19:24
I just wanted to point out that for just for comparison, Santa Cruz has eight full time staff. 00:19:31
That work exclusively on economic development, OK, And we have one person one day a week, so Santa Cruz is 4 times larger than us, 00:19:37
but. 00:19:42
By that proportion that would mean if we're gonna do equivalence, it would be having two full time people. So we're really, I'm 00:19:47
only thinking one person four days a week, it's not even full time would be a great benefit for us and is sorely needed in our. 00:19:55
In in our city staff so umm. 00:20:04
That's really something, as I say, for council to decide, for Anastasia to decide. By the way, Laura wasn't didn't hate the idea 00:20:08
so too much. It was. I'm not talking just about I did talk with her. 00:20:14
But I just wanted to ask the commissioners what they think about this idea. 00:20:22
Public Yes. Public comment please. 00:20:29
See. No hands raised. 00:20:36
Well, we have Mr. Tonetto approaching. 00:20:38
Mike, hi. 00:20:42
Inga, I hope I'm not cut off if you're still listening, so. 00:20:45
OK, what I want to say is. 00:20:49
Kind of over to what you're just talking about right now. Kind of overlaps with the last issue a little bit, don't you think? 00:20:52
Well, it's right, Nancy. Grants funding, so on and so forth. OK, You know you have a a like. 00:20:58
You have a local well known international photographer who lives in Pacific Grove named Robert Bocelli. 00:21:05
I don't know if you know who he is, but many of you do. 00:21:13
And I've seen some of his work. He does still photography as well as video photography and there might be a good idea to talk with 00:21:16
him about. 00:21:20
How you're going to spend your money if it's on? 00:21:24
The QR code thing or whatever. Or make him. 00:21:27
He could probably use a little bit of local work. Anyway, he's getting a little older. I'm sure he doesn't like to travel to China 00:21:30
all the time to do panda videos. 00:21:34
So I just wanted to run that by you, that's all. And you have great ideas so I wanna tell you. 00:21:38
Thank you. 00:21:42
OK, that's it. 00:21:43
Yes, Commissioner Markowitz. 00:21:45
I will just mention the name that he mentioned, Buccelli. I work with Bob over at KSBW a long time ago. I know him. He's an 00:21:47
absolutely excellent photographer and videographer. 00:21:53
And in in future I'll be glad Aaron, because I did work at KSW. I do know a lot of video production stuff. 00:21:59
And maybe to give some leads about. 00:22:07
To shoot video. 00:22:09
Here in Pacific Grove who might be the most affordable, but I'll be glad to lend my expertise on that. Thank you. OK. Thank you. 00:22:11
So just a reminder that we're. 00:22:15
On the agenda item for. 00:22:21
Grant funding and. 00:22:24
Having a member of staff. 00:22:26
To help with that. 00:22:28
So. 00:22:30
Although valuable comments, thank you. 00:22:32
So I guess we're closing public comment. 00:22:36
No hands raised. OK, so Commissioners comments. 00:22:39
Just. 00:22:46
Yeah, go ahead. 00:22:48
But I've said this before, I think it's a good idea. 00:22:50
This is kind of a grant writer and it's a very specific job. I know they would be doing other things, but. 00:22:54
And if they're gonna do that, then they need to pay their salary plus some. 00:23:00
Percentage on top of that. 00:23:03
So that was first comment we're we're kind of small for a full time grant writer however. 00:23:05
Based on your research at Santa Cruz. 00:23:10
I think it would be a good idea to develop some sort of a basic job description or some sort of position description. 00:23:13
What do we want them to do? You know how? How are we going to pay for it? 00:23:19
And and I'm willing to. I'm connected to a couple of EDC's. 00:23:24
And three other cities that are about our size in the state of California, one of them has. 00:23:29
A full time grant operation. I don't know if it's a writer, but. 00:23:33
And they they pump out couple 100,000 and more a year. 00:23:37
In federal, state and local grants. So I'm I'm. 00:23:42
My volunteering to just check with these people and see if they have any job descriptions. 00:23:44
What their history is the involvement of the Chamber of Commerce. They all have chambers. 00:23:49
And exactly how this thing works, I think it's a good idea. I'd be in favor of it, and I don't mind making a few phone calls or. 00:23:53
Or, you know, just basically gathering some data. 00:23:59
Yeah, that'd be appreciated. Thank you. 00:24:01
Commissioner Richmond. 00:24:05
I actually, my mind is just blown that we don't have at least one person. So yeah, I definitely support this. 00:24:07
And honestly, like with working in the city of Monterey and trying to get things done, I haven't experienced it in PG because I 00:24:14
haven't worked on quite as much here yet. But there's so much miscommunication when there aren't enough people in the right 00:24:18
places. 00:24:23
So things take forever or don't get done at all. So I would imagine if if. 00:24:27
That were to happen here, the communication just all around would get better and and grant programs like you mentioned there was 00:24:32
actually a natural disaster. 00:24:37
Grant program that went around after actually it was a grant program and there was like a loan program, but there was one 00:24:42
specifically for cities and not like individuals or business businesses. So I would imagine we most likely didn't have someone 00:24:48
working on that here in PG for all the flooding and all that. So it is, I don't remember what it was called. I'm so sorry. I 00:24:55
should have saved it, but yeah, it would have been great to have someone on board who was on top of that already, so. 00:25:02
Umm. 00:25:08
Since we don't know quite yet who might be this and if it will happen, if I do come up with anything, it's not my job, but I will 00:25:09
pass it along just in case. So thank you, fabulous. Thank you. 00:25:15
Other comments. 00:25:21
Yeah, just a little quick. Is this person or? 00:25:24
This person Laurel, would they be just researching grants and putting them in front of? 00:25:27
This Commission to then. 00:25:34
Like write and submit? Or is this person researching writing grants and handing this Commission checks? 00:25:36
Well, I haven't written a job description, but this is like the general area so that can be fine-tuned. But you know, things like 00:25:43
recreation can really support. 00:25:49
Find economic development in in a town. You know, we had this example. I forget who said this, one of the Commission, one of the 00:25:55
one of the council members said. You know, there is a certain place where people. 00:26:01
Go and drop their kids to do sports and then they frequent all the businesses around and you know, things like this can be 00:26:08
released. So you know you can. It can be broad, it can be narrow. 00:26:13
So. 00:26:20
I I. 00:26:22
It's to support economic development at this point and. 00:26:23
You know, we can't make it too big, so it's not achievable. Maybe it has to be narrower, but it's really to be determined. I'm I'm 00:26:29
mostly concerned that there are so many. 00:26:34
Grants that are, I find out about them very randomly and I just think ohh you know, I know someone who should know about that and 00:26:39
it just seems like if we systematically pursue this that. 00:26:45
We would achieve a lot more. 00:26:51
So. 00:26:53
But it is not just a grant writing position. It's like that's one part of it. It is really about business retention and expansion. 00:26:55
That is the. 00:26:59
The general remit, I would say. 00:27:03
Yes, thank you, Chair. I think my concern as yours is, is that we really only have the one day with Laurel and how much more 00:27:06
productive we could be if we could get. 00:27:12
You know, more hours or even a full time, that seems very pie in the sky for sure. But the fact is, is that when we have business 00:27:18
related issues where we have to interface with the city, we have a limited amount of time that we can do that. So I'm in support 00:27:24
of finding ways that we can get more time so that we can get more done. 00:27:31
Because I think that would benefit all. 00:27:38
Alright, thank you. 00:27:44
Yep, we are. So let us. 00:27:47
Umm. 00:27:51
Yeah. So unfinished and ongoing business. 00:27:53
This portion of the meeting is reserved for commissioners or staff to make recommendations for future agenda items. Do we have any 00:27:57
comments from commissioners or staff? 00:28:01
I think we've already said that we're going to see the QR code come back. We're going to. 00:28:08
Possibly hear about that. And we did discuss. Commissioners can e-mail the chair. Yeah. OK. So yeah, go ahead and e-mail the 00:28:13
chair. OK well then let me adjourn the meeting. Now it is 601 PM. 00:28:18
Thank you Commissioners, staff and members of the public. 00:28:25
And. 00:28:29
Thank you. Thank you. See you October 5th. 00:28:30
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Using Robert's rules. 00:00:07
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Commissioner, this is not a a dictat at all. This is a recommendation to limit your contributions to about two minutes. 00:00:33
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Often the chair or the vice chair will call the formal phrase is point of order. 00:01:25
And that is your friend if you think that there's something that going on that shouldn't be. 00:01:31
Anyone can call a point of order and then we can clarify if there's something going on that we can improve, and I know that 00:01:37
everyone. 00:01:42
Strives for actual excellence in their role as Commissioner, so I hope we'll all get on the page and. 00:01:46
Flex our parliamentary muscles here. 00:01:54
Thank you so much so. 00:01:56
We have agenda and supporting documents in the packet. These were circulated in advance advance of today's meeting. 00:02:00
And are available for download on the EDC page of the city website. 00:02:07
Are there any questions on the order of agenda items from Commissioners? 00:02:12
I do have a one myself. 00:02:19
Actually, is that OK to ask a question answered and we have a contributor from Zen City who is the company that made the the small 00:02:21
Business Report and they're the last item on the agenda and because they're on payroll and visiting and so on, I think we should 00:02:28
put them first. 00:02:34
So I'll I'll make a. 00:02:40
Motion for moving agenda item number 10 up to agenda item number. 00:02:42
Well. 00:02:49
The first one in our regular. 00:02:50
Agenda. 00:02:52
Umm. 00:02:54
Any questions, comments? 00:02:56
No, OK, I move to do that. Any seconds. 00:02:59
I second that. OK. Thank you, Kelsey. 00:03:01
Yes. 00:03:05
Item Exactly. So item 6 is not our first one, so yeah. 00:03:08
So exactly so. 00:03:12
Thank you so much. I think that will help things flow. All right now. 00:03:14
Ohh, that's vote. 00:03:22
So Laurel. 00:03:26
Are you doing roll call? 00:03:27
Yes, I am. OK, so. 00:03:29
Need a motion by the chair, So Chair Jacobs. 00:03:33
Yeah, Vice Chair Jacobs I ohh did. But you say I. 00:03:38
I ohh sorry Commissioner Richmond. 00:03:41
Yeah. 00:03:45
Aye. 00:03:46
Commissioner Gibbs. 00:03:47
Yep. 00:03:49
Commissioner. 00:03:51
Markowitz and Commissioner Hoops. 00:03:53
OK. So we have moved item 10 to the regular agenda, item 6. 00:03:57
Right. 00:04:03
Thank you everyone. 00:04:03
Umm. 00:04:05
You know, we might have skipped over. 00:04:06
Our attendance roll call. 00:04:08
Do we need to do that? 00:04:11
Yes, we do. 00:04:14
We do, yeah. OK. 00:04:16
I'm sorry, Laura, would you help us with that? OK. I'll just do a quick roll call, Commissioner Gibbs. 00:04:18
I'm here, Commissioner Richmond. 00:04:24
Present. Vice Chair Jacobs. Present. 00:04:26
Umm. 00:04:30
President, CEO, McMurdo. 00:04:32
Here. 00:04:35
Umm. 00:04:36
Commissioner Markowitz, Commissioner Hoops. And we do have, Commissioner, the nutty remote that we weren't alerted to. 00:04:37
Have her participate in the meeting, but she can participate as a member of the public. 00:04:46
OK. 00:04:51
Hey. 00:04:53
All right. Thank you. So we've approved the agenda with making one alteration. So now is the moment where I can ask for 00:04:54
announcements from commissioners present or city staff present. 00:05:01
Yeah, Jenny. 00:05:11
There are a few special events, community events that are coming up in September, actually quite a few. So I wanted to give you a 00:05:13
couple of those. Green Gables is having a community open house on Tuesday, September 19th. They have done an extensive renovation 00:05:20
and they want to show the community, they want to show it off to the community. So it's from 4:30 to 6:30 on September 19th and 00:05:28
everyone in the community is invited to that. Our annual flavors of Pacific Grove where you get to walk around to the different. 00:05:35
Restaurants and a sample. Some of the beverages that are made here in PG is on Thursday, September 28th. 00:05:43
From 5:30 to 8:00, So that's coming up here at the end of September. And then our rock and the jewel, which is open to the public 00:05:51
as well, all of these are from the public. 00:05:55
Will be on Friday September 29th, the day after flavours. And that's at Jewel Park. And this month the band is the Wharf Rats so, 00:06:00
and they're very popular in this area. 00:06:06
That's all. Thank you. 00:06:12
Wonderful. 00:06:13
I've got an announcement that I'm bringing from the Business Improvement District. 00:06:15
So the BID is organizing a business interest consortium of representatives from the full swathe of local business interest groups, 00:06:20
including the BID, the HID, the EDC, the MCB and the Chamber. 00:06:26
The purpose of the group is to share current news. 00:06:33
Keep communication open amongst all the actors in this area. Also to lobby the Council if there is a perceived need regarding 00:06:36
advocating for such interests. Historically this consortium did exist and it was felt to be an enormous bonus for the community, 00:06:42
so at the next BID meeting it will be developed, discussed, any downtown business owners are welcome to attend and participate and 00:06:48
members of the public. 00:06:55
Also umm. 00:07:02
Yeah, this is a month of a lot of things happening. So the week of September 18th to 24th is going to be an event, a week long 00:07:04
event in Pacific Grove called Paint the Town Purple. It is a fundraiser for the Alzheimer's Association. 00:07:11
There will be. 00:07:18
Written it down three, well, three TV stations and social media covering the event. So it doesn't cost anything. We're just 00:07:23
encouraging people to participate in the Alzheimer's Walk, which is on September the, I'm sorry, October the 7th. 00:07:31
It's a fundraiser, All their services are free and this is the one time of the year when they raise money, so we are helping them 00:07:39
to do that. 00:07:43
There will be on September the 13th in the backroom of Wild Fish Restaurant. There will be a meeting for local business people. 00:07:46
Everyone is welcome to attend. You'll be given information, collateral and so on. So there's that. And then I am going to say 00:07:54
there's another fundraiser for the Monterey Bay Fisheries Trust and that is a dinner at Wild Fish Restaurant. 00:08:01
It goes for their program to supply affordable fish to local people in need. 00:08:10
So. 00:08:17
Any other announcements? 00:08:18
Yes, Mike, I'm sorry, Commissioner gives. 00:08:20
Mr. Jacobs, thank you. Just have one. The Monterey Bay Economic Partnership has got a luncheon. It's at the capital of Library on 00:08:23
September 13th. It's a leadership luncheon. So there'll be. 00:08:28
Kind of based on what you said, but leaders from the wider Monterey area will be. 00:08:33
Going to. 00:08:37
To the luncheon and meeting and greeting and, you know, sharing issues, so it's a good thing. 00:08:39
And can I make just just like a clarification on the two-minute rule? 00:08:43
It's not a rule. It's a recommendation, Recommendation, gotcha. So because the public, the public has three minutes, is that 00:08:48
right? Yeah. Well, this is when, because we're going through a lot of topics today. So it's generally like, OK, you know? 00:08:54
Views from everybody and yeah. 00:09:01
Thank you SO. 00:09:04
Yeah. 00:09:05
OK, so let us move on. Are there any announcements from our council liaison chaps, Poduri? Not sure. Is he here? Yeah, he is. He's 00:09:07
here. 00:09:12
Yes, thank you and hello, everyone. I just wanted to mention that I attended the MCB annual Meeting. 00:09:18
Last week. 00:09:26
It was a. 00:09:27
I would say well attended event with several stakeholders. 00:09:28
And a couple of key takeaways from me from that meeting was that MCB has rebranded the organization name from. 00:09:32
What What used to be known as Monterey County Convention and Visitors Bureau. 00:09:39
To see Monterey. 00:09:45
So it's kind of like simple for me too. 00:09:46
And the other thing too is they listed out a quite a few strategic initiatives and I think apart from the branding see Monterey 00:09:49
will now be looking to extend visitors day. 00:09:54
Which also translates to additional spend in the entire region. 00:10:00
So All in all that was a great meeting and and I look forward to seeing how we can grow from here. 00:10:03
Thanks. 00:10:09
Thank you so much. 00:10:12
Council member Poduri. 00:10:14
So on to general public comment. 00:10:17
This portion of the meeting is reserved for members of the public to address the Commission on any matter that's not on the agenda 00:10:19
but is under the jurisdiction of the Commission. 00:10:24
Comments from the public are limited to 3 minutes and do not receive EDC action. 00:10:28
Comments regarding items on the regular agenda shall be heard prior to the EDC's consideration of such items at the time those 00:10:35
items are called. 00:10:38
Whenever possible, written correspondence should be submitted to the CDC in advance of the meeting to provide adequate time for 00:10:43
consideration. 00:10:46
And thank you to everyone who's come to make a contribution. Are there any members of the public? 00:10:50
Who would like to make a comment at this time? 00:10:56
Is there right now. 00:11:09
OK. Hello, good afternoon. 00:11:11
My name is Vince Tuminello. I'm a local resident. 00:11:13
And. 00:11:17
Person of good character and. 00:11:19
Very well known in the community as such, and I want to mention to you that when I had my last small business in a small town just 00:11:21
a little bit larger than Pacific Grove, we face some of the same problems that you have. 00:11:28
And I've been coming to these EDC meetings for 25 years. 00:11:36
And I haven't really seen that much of A change. I mean, what you were experiencing, what you inherited is the result of 3540 00:11:40
years of former EDC people and what they were or weren't able to accomplish. So I think we need some new ideas. And I've seen some 00:11:47
of you in past meetings really come up with some good ideas about the art walk, the different functions and activities that you've 00:11:55
talked about. And I want to tell you about one that we used in the last city where I did business and was very successful. 00:12:02
We used to call it and it may have been a copyrighted name, I'm not sure. The Welcome Wagon. 00:12:10
You're familiar with that? 00:12:15
Well, it doesn't have to be under their auspices. You can do this. You know, you could just create your own welcome wagon type 00:12:17
thing. And basically how it works is that you working with the Chamber of Commerce is the Chamber of Commerce lady here? 00:12:23
OK, good. She's right there. OK, Working with the Chamber of Commerce and the EDC and maybe some other entities, you could decide 00:12:30
if you like this idea. You get together and you put a format together when new people move to town. 00:12:36
This is especially good for people from outside the area outside the state, and maybe people who have been underserved and maybe 00:12:43
lives in communities where they weren't respected as much as they are respected and welcomed in Pacific Grove. 00:12:49
And someone from this group, whatever organization you want to decide to call it if you like the idea, visits them and welcomes 00:12:56
them personally to the community, usually finds out who they are through the landlord or through the real estate people, and so 00:13:00
forth. 00:13:05
And has a little welcome package for them with information about the community. Maybe some maybe a pan. 00:13:10
Discount card, Whatever you know, you think about it. 00:13:18
And here you are. You just moved to Pacific Grove. You don't really know that much about the town and somebody's knocking on your 00:13:21
door or giving you a call to tell you they're coming over to welcome you to the community. I think it really worked well in the 00:13:25
last town I did business in. 00:13:30
And these people feel really welcome, you know, they get somebody, comes to greet them, a nice personality and maybe gives them a 00:13:35
few little tidbits, maybe a discount card for a restaurant or. 00:13:40
Something for shopping or it's sort of like if someone has a a branding that's around, you know? 00:13:46
Goofy social media presence, And that's their. 00:13:53
Their brand and their content that this doesn't sort of fit them. 00:13:56
No one's forcing them to do this, you know. So I think, I, I think to your point that that is correct, that consistency, 00:13:58
especially if we're going to put it on a city website, consistency in. 00:14:02
Even just volume levels on the business can make a huge difference, you know. 00:14:07
Yeah, lighting exposure things like this is, is is important to have kind of a through line of of professional quality so. 00:14:11
Something that I think will need to be considered is if. 00:14:19
If somebody wants to do their own video, can they do that? Like that's just that's gonna come up I'm sure that. So just down the 00:14:22
line, those sort of questions. But anyway everyone, has everyone had a chance to comment? Can we? 00:14:28
Umm. 00:14:34
I believe we need to. 00:14:36
Are we? 00:14:38
Hold on. 00:14:39
This was not. 00:14:43
Pardon. 00:14:45
We need to make a motion, I'll gladly make a motion on the very first thing and we are asked to receive this and vote correct. 00:14:47
Just discuss and consider. So we that's the way that it was. So there's no need to make a motion. It was just a discussion. 00:14:56
OK, three items of discussion. 00:15:05
And then? 00:15:07
We will come back. 00:15:09
With. 00:15:11
The plan next month and look at your overall budget, your goals, and discuss where we go from here next month. 00:15:12
OK. So I didn't hear anyone say not to think there's a lot of support, so but we will. 00:15:20
See this again next month. 00:15:28
So. 00:15:30
Umm. 00:15:31
OK. So our final agenda item is to discuss resources needed to further the goals of the EDC. 00:15:32
Including staffing to search for grants, funds and opportunities to ensure business retention and growth. Reference myself. 00:15:41
This was something I brought up at the end of the last meeting. 00:15:50
In looking at. 00:15:54
Our revenue streams and Pacific Grove. 00:15:56
We do have taxes, GOAT sales tax. There's also. 00:15:58
A lot of cities get funding from government grants or. 00:16:05
Private and public foundations anyway, and and I. 00:16:10
I'm not aware. I've done some research. It doesn't seem like we have a centralized. 00:16:14
Way of. 00:16:19
Finding out about. 00:16:22
Grant opportunities here in Pacific Grove, so. 00:16:23
I. 00:16:27
Kind of. 00:16:29
Excuse me just one second I. 00:16:34
Mates. 00:16:35
This, yeah. 00:16:37
And so our budget is 39 K per annum. 00:16:38
We have a lot of projects here. 00:16:43
Umm. 00:16:46
You know, they exceed our budget for sure. We've got the QR project, the concert series, the grant program. 00:16:47
Next month I know Anastasia is preparing a budget for us to look at the costs of things and to look at what we have and to game 00:16:56
plan about how we might want to explore sources of funding and and how we want to approach all that. 00:17:02
So, umm. 00:17:09
I think that it would be really proactive. Well, there are a lot of proactive things to do. 00:17:11
And it would be worth. 00:17:16
Considering having someone full time. 00:17:18
Or close to full time. 00:17:21
Who would be able to be a staff member for the EDC and? 00:17:23
Certainly explore grants and communicate. So there is still the research of looking at different forms. There's federal grants, 00:17:30
There's state grants. There's. 00:17:34
County grants. There's a you know public and private foundations and to communicate like once we have clear statements of goals 00:17:38
and. 00:17:43
What we want to achieve Then there's also the. 00:17:48
Issue of how we communicate to people who might be the actors that would benefit from it, do the you know. 00:17:52
Want to, you know, do the work with that grant so somebody who could. 00:17:59
Do grant writing as well. 00:18:05
So, umm. 00:18:08
I wanted to propose that we have a dedicated staff member, Laurel, who's working one day a week. 00:18:10
On the EDC, she works a total of four working days. 00:18:17
It would be great if she could. 00:18:23
Dedicate that time to working exclusively for the EDC and that's not something that we can decide. That has to go to council and 00:18:26
that's has to be Anastasia to make the the proposal. And there's a, you know, it's a whole. 00:18:33
Road to go down. 00:18:40
But. 00:18:43
Just the the kernel of. The idea is that other duties would be. 00:18:43
Uh. 00:18:49
Including economic development of maintaining our websites, our brokers launches leverage leveraging local resources like. 00:18:51
See Monterey, HID, BID, Cal, Ed, EDA, and DC all these. 00:18:59
Economic development groups. 00:19:04
And the ongoing work of business retention and expansion in our town. 00:19:06
So it's likely that the revenue from grants if we you know can systematically do this and and be awarded grants. 00:19:12
Would greatly offset this expense. 00:19:20
Also, I think that the resulting attention to development would bring a lot more development to our town. 00:19:24
I just wanted to point out that for just for comparison, Santa Cruz has eight full time staff. 00:19:31
That work exclusively on economic development, OK, And we have one person one day a week, so Santa Cruz is 4 times larger than us, 00:19:37
but. 00:19:42
By that proportion that would mean if we're gonna do equivalence, it would be having two full time people. So we're really, I'm 00:19:47
only thinking one person four days a week, it's not even full time would be a great benefit for us and is sorely needed in our. 00:19:55
In in our city staff so umm. 00:20:04
That's really something, as I say, for council to decide, for Anastasia to decide. By the way, Laura wasn't didn't hate the idea 00:20:08
so too much. It was. I'm not talking just about I did talk with her. 00:20:14
But I just wanted to ask the commissioners what they think about this idea. 00:20:22
Public Yes. Public comment please. 00:20:29
See. No hands raised. 00:20:36
Well, we have Mr. Tonetto approaching. 00:20:38
Mike, hi. 00:20:42
Inga, I hope I'm not cut off if you're still listening, so. 00:20:45
OK, what I want to say is. 00:20:49
Kind of over to what you're just talking about right now. Kind of overlaps with the last issue a little bit, don't you think? 00:20:52
Well, it's right, Nancy. Grants funding, so on and so forth. OK, You know you have a a like. 00:20:58
You have a local well known international photographer who lives in Pacific Grove named Robert Bocelli. 00:21:05
I don't know if you know who he is, but many of you do. 00:21:13
And I've seen some of his work. He does still photography as well as video photography and there might be a good idea to talk with 00:21:16
him about. 00:21:20
How you're going to spend your money if it's on? 00:21:24
The QR code thing or whatever. Or make him. 00:21:27
He could probably use a little bit of local work. Anyway, he's getting a little older. I'm sure he doesn't like to travel to China 00:21:30
all the time to do panda videos. 00:21:34
So I just wanted to run that by you, that's all. And you have great ideas so I wanna tell you. 00:21:38
Thank you. 00:21:42
OK, that's it. 00:21:43
Yes, Commissioner Markowitz. 00:21:45
I will just mention the name that he mentioned, Buccelli. I work with Bob over at KSBW a long time ago. I know him. He's an 00:21:47
absolutely excellent photographer and videographer. 00:21:53
And in in future I'll be glad Aaron, because I did work at KSW. I do know a lot of video production stuff. 00:21:59
And maybe to give some leads about. 00:22:07
To shoot video. 00:22:09
Here in Pacific Grove who might be the most affordable, but I'll be glad to lend my expertise on that. Thank you. OK. Thank you. 00:22:11
So just a reminder that we're. 00:22:15
On the agenda item for. 00:22:21
Grant funding and. 00:22:24
Having a member of staff. 00:22:26
To help with that. 00:22:28
So. 00:22:30
Although valuable comments, thank you. 00:22:32
So I guess we're closing public comment. 00:22:36
No hands raised. OK, so Commissioners comments. 00:22:39
Just. 00:22:46
Yeah, go ahead. 00:22:48
But I've said this before, I think it's a good idea. 00:22:50
This is kind of a grant writer and it's a very specific job. I know they would be doing other things, but. 00:22:54
And if they're gonna do that, then they need to pay their salary plus some. 00:23:00
Percentage on top of that. 00:23:03
So that was first comment we're we're kind of small for a full time grant writer however. 00:23:05
Based on your research at Santa Cruz. 00:23:10
I think it would be a good idea to develop some sort of a basic job description or some sort of position description. 00:23:13
What do we want them to do? You know how? How are we going to pay for it? 00:23:19
And and I'm willing to. I'm connected to a couple of EDC's. 00:23:24
And three other cities that are about our size in the state of California, one of them has. 00:23:29
A full time grant operation. I don't know if it's a writer, but. 00:23:33
And they they pump out couple 100,000 and more a year. 00:23:37
In federal, state and local grants. So I'm I'm. 00:23:42
My volunteering to just check with these people and see if they have any job descriptions. 00:23:44
What their history is the involvement of the Chamber of Commerce. They all have chambers. 00:23:49
And exactly how this thing works, I think it's a good idea. I'd be in favor of it, and I don't mind making a few phone calls or. 00:23:53
Or, you know, just basically gathering some data. 00:23:59
Yeah, that'd be appreciated. Thank you. 00:24:01
Commissioner Richmond. 00:24:05
I actually, my mind is just blown that we don't have at least one person. So yeah, I definitely support this. 00:24:07
And honestly, like with working in the city of Monterey and trying to get things done, I haven't experienced it in PG because I 00:24:14
haven't worked on quite as much here yet. But there's so much miscommunication when there aren't enough people in the right 00:24:18
places. 00:24:23
So things take forever or don't get done at all. So I would imagine if if. 00:24:27
That were to happen here, the communication just all around would get better and and grant programs like you mentioned there was 00:24:32
actually a natural disaster. 00:24:37
Grant program that went around after actually it was a grant program and there was like a loan program, but there was one 00:24:42
specifically for cities and not like individuals or business businesses. So I would imagine we most likely didn't have someone 00:24:48
working on that here in PG for all the flooding and all that. So it is, I don't remember what it was called. I'm so sorry. I 00:24:55
should have saved it, but yeah, it would have been great to have someone on board who was on top of that already, so. 00:25:02
Umm. 00:25:08
Since we don't know quite yet who might be this and if it will happen, if I do come up with anything, it's not my job, but I will 00:25:09
pass it along just in case. So thank you, fabulous. Thank you. 00:25:15
Other comments. 00:25:21
Yeah, just a little quick. Is this person or? 00:25:24
This person Laurel, would they be just researching grants and putting them in front of? 00:25:27
This Commission to then. 00:25:34
Like write and submit? Or is this person researching writing grants and handing this Commission checks? 00:25:36
Well, I haven't written a job description, but this is like the general area so that can be fine-tuned. But you know, things like 00:25:43
recreation can really support. 00:25:49
Find economic development in in a town. You know, we had this example. I forget who said this, one of the Commission, one of the 00:25:55
one of the council members said. You know, there is a certain place where people. 00:26:01
Go and drop their kids to do sports and then they frequent all the businesses around and you know, things like this can be 00:26:08
released. So you know you can. It can be broad, it can be narrow. 00:26:13
So. 00:26:20
I I. 00:26:22
It's to support economic development at this point and. 00:26:23
You know, we can't make it too big, so it's not achievable. Maybe it has to be narrower, but it's really to be determined. I'm I'm 00:26:29
mostly concerned that there are so many. 00:26:34
Grants that are, I find out about them very randomly and I just think ohh you know, I know someone who should know about that and 00:26:39
it just seems like if we systematically pursue this that. 00:26:45
We would achieve a lot more. 00:26:51
So. 00:26:53
But it is not just a grant writing position. It's like that's one part of it. It is really about business retention and expansion. 00:26:55
That is the. 00:26:59
The general remit, I would say. 00:27:03
Yes, thank you, Chair. I think my concern as yours is, is that we really only have the one day with Laurel and how much more 00:27:06
productive we could be if we could get. 00:27:12
You know, more hours or even a full time, that seems very pie in the sky for sure. But the fact is, is that when we have business 00:27:18
related issues where we have to interface with the city, we have a limited amount of time that we can do that. So I'm in support 00:27:24
of finding ways that we can get more time so that we can get more done. 00:27:31
Because I think that would benefit all. 00:27:38
Alright, thank you. 00:27:44
Yep, we are. So let us. 00:27:47
Umm. 00:27:51
Yeah. So unfinished and ongoing business. 00:27:53
This portion of the meeting is reserved for commissioners or staff to make recommendations for future agenda items. Do we have any 00:27:57
comments from commissioners or staff? 00:28:01
I think we've already said that we're going to see the QR code come back. We're going to. 00:28:08
Possibly hear about that. And we did discuss. Commissioners can e-mail the chair. Yeah. OK. So yeah, go ahead and e-mail the 00:28:13
chair. OK well then let me adjourn the meeting. Now it is 601 PM. 00:28:18
Thank you Commissioners, staff and members of the public. 00:28:25
And. 00:28:29
Thank you. Thank you. See you October 5th. 00:28:30
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