No Bookmarks Exist.
I don't think it's. 00:00:29
It's not. 00:00:30
Notice. 00:00:31
Go ahead. Thank you. 00:00:32
So a quick reminder to everybody that if you make a motion or second it. 00:00:34
Please state your name for the records. 00:00:40
OK. 00:00:42
Umm. 00:00:44
So we need to take role. 00:00:46
Ben, are you? 00:00:49
Yes, Madam Vice Chair, I can, I can do that. Sorry, I was just give me one moment. I was going to get my timer. Are you able to 00:00:52
use the timer on here today? 00:00:56
OK, now I don't need to do that. Sorry, we're. 00:01:00
Making sure we have all of our priorities down here. 00:01:03
A Commissioner of Annuity. 00:01:06
Commissioner Richmond. 00:01:09
Here. 00:01:11
Vice Chair Jacobs here. 00:01:11
Commissioner Markowitz here. 00:01:13
Commissioner Hoops here. 00:01:15
Commissioner Gibbs. 00:01:18
Present. 00:01:19
And Secretary McMurdo is absent today. 00:01:20
So all present with the exception of the secretaries. 00:01:26
Great. OK. So the agenda and supporting documents in the packet or circulated in advance of today's meeting. 00:01:31
And are available for download on the CDC page of the city website, thecityofpacificgrove.org. 00:01:37
Are there any questions on order of agenda items from Commissioners? 00:01:44
Madam Chair, actually are you on the approval of the agenda section? 00:01:50
Yes, I am great. I have an announcement I'd like to make if that's acceptable please. OK, thank you. The city attorney has advised 00:01:54
me that we need to pull. 00:01:59
Item 9 from today's agenda. 00:02:04
That is because the author. 00:02:09
Has a conflict and so that item will not be heard today. 00:02:12
However, the city attorney wanted to also advise that any. 00:02:15
Member of the Commission, who does not have a conflict. 00:02:19
May bring back. 00:02:23
An item like this at a future EDC meeting, but just that it will not be heard today. 00:02:25
Thank you. Thank you. 00:02:30
Are there any questions on the agenda from Commissioners? 00:02:33
OK. Is there a motion to approve the agenda as presented with the attorneys? 00:02:40
Amendment. 00:02:48
I approve it. 00:02:52
Kelsey Richmond. 00:02:53
Is my name OK? Thank you. Thank you. So we have a motion. Do we have a second? 00:02:55
Thank you. 00:03:01
OK, so the motion. 00:03:02
Umm. 00:03:05
I guess we need roll call please. 00:03:07
Sorry have to take that, Commissioner Venuti. 00:03:12
Aye. 00:03:15
Mr. Richmond. 00:03:16
Aye. 00:03:17
Vice Chair Jacobs, Commissioner Markowitz. 00:03:18
Commissioner Hoops, aye. 00:03:21
Commissioner Gibbs. 00:03:23
Motion passes 601. 00:03:25
Sorry 60, she's a non voting member and she's absent today. Thank you. Well and Eric's absent. Ohh, I'm sorry, forgive me. We also 00:03:28
the chair. So we actually the last vote and this vote both should reflect. 00:03:34
To being absent. 00:03:40
To being absent for the roll call. 00:03:41
One being absent for the approval of the minutes because the Secretary is a non voting member. 00:03:43
Thank you for that correction. 00:03:49
Great. Thank you, everyone. 00:03:51
Onto Commission and staff announcements of city related items, are there any announcements from the commissioners present or from 00:03:53
the city staff? 00:03:58
Commissioner Gibbs, I don't have a formal announcement, but. 00:04:05
The. 00:04:09
You know, I have asked several times if we could have and this agenda is a good example. I think we had time to put this in here. 00:04:11
If we could talk a little bit more about strategy and tactics for small businesses, any business in Pacific Grove, point of order. 00:04:17
Could I ask you to bring this up in the last agenda item because I believe this is really just for things happening around town 00:04:24
that we want to call attention to. So and and the last agenda item is perfect for this topic. What's the last agenda item? It's 00:04:30
what future? 00:04:36
And items would you like to gotcha. Well, what I was gonna say if I could say I wasn't actually suggesting agenda item I was gonna 00:04:42
say that I did get out. 00:04:45
And talk to people in the business community and was finding out what they were concerned about. 00:04:49
And I think the person that was going to be on the agenda for today. 00:04:54
Yeah, Yvonne Battistini from carried away, right? And she was not aware that she was on the agenda for today. 00:05:00
So. 00:05:06
OK, maybe that should be the announcement, but I did have a chance to talk to her and I wanted to just bring that forward since 00:05:07
she may not be here. 00:05:10
But there are issues that she deals with and a lot of business owners deal with every day. 00:05:13
Having to do with cash flow, reducing expenses. 00:05:18
And they're they're basically still paying their bills from COVID, right? They're paying their rent. They're paying inventory 00:05:21
costs. 00:05:24
And they're they're fairly significantly in debt and I've talked to four or five business owners if there was something the. 00:05:27
EDC could do, and I'll save it for the last agenda item, but. 00:05:33
It would be nice to spend time talking about those kind of things. 00:05:36
On the agenda, I believe now we have to wait until July to really consider something like that. So that's my only comment. 00:05:39
I appreciate that and I would say can we make use of submitting. 00:05:46
Documents that at least we can communicate through that so to not waste time. 00:05:51
Umm. 00:05:57
Yes, I just want to notify everyone that Captain and Stoker is having a. 00:05:58
What used to be called a block party, but now it's more of a festival July 22nd that is just filled with about 70 to 80 local 00:06:04
vendors. 00:06:09
We have about 15 food vendors. 00:06:14
We have about 5 musical like live acts going on, so it's just. 00:06:17
A full day 10:00 AM to 7:00 PM I'm just. 00:06:22
All local, everything. And it's basically just to celebrate the community that we've created. So I just want to invite everyone 00:06:26
out that day, July 22nd, 10:00 AM to 7:00 PM. 00:06:31
Thank you. You're doing it at your PG location. No, it's Ohh. Yep, good call my location. 00:06:36
It's actually at in Monterey inside Jacks Park during that day. So both locations will still be open for service, but during the 00:06:42
day, 10 AM, 7:00 PM Jacks Park, we have a event going on. 00:06:48
Thank you. 00:06:54
Yeah, that sounds really special. Thanks. 00:06:57
Umm. 00:06:59
Umm. 00:07:01
I have. 00:07:02
A couple of announcements actually. The Business Improvement District is having Small Business Saturday on the 20. 00:07:03
4th of June so coming up soon and. 00:07:12
The. 00:07:17
Committee. 00:07:19
IS is starting the first inaugural Sidewalk Chalk Art competition on that day? 00:07:20
So it's there's been a huge amount of interest in that. I think it's going to be a really fun day and shops are doing specials on 00:07:26
that day, so it will be a. 00:07:30
We have a nice day to come and patronize local businesses and enjoy some of the antics of the chalk. It's called chalk the block. 00:07:35
Also there is a. 00:07:45
The Arts District has quarterly socials, so on June the 22nd there's going to be a an artistic social at Bradley Photographic 00:07:49
Gallery at 6:30 PM. 00:07:54
And everyone's invited. 00:08:01
I'll actually tell you a little bit more about that in the. 00:08:04
An agenda item below. 00:08:08
So any other announcements? 00:08:09
Seeing none. 00:08:14
Thank you. We'll go on to general public comment. 00:08:17
The sportsman, Madam, vice chair, there's the council liaison announcements. I do believe we have Council member Poduri here. 00:08:21
Virtually. There he is, there he is. 00:08:26
Thank you. 00:08:31
Thank you and thank you everyone. I don't have any announcements to make, but thanks. 00:08:33
Thank you. 00:08:41
Councilman Poduri So onto general public comment. 00:08:42
And this portion of the meeting is reserved for members of the public. 00:08:47
To address the Commission on any matter which is not on this agenda but is under the jurisdiction of the Commission. 00:08:51
Comments from the public are limited to 3 minutes and do not receive EDC action. 00:08:58
Comments regarding items on the regular agenda shall be heard prior to the EDC's consideration of such items. 00:09:03
At the time that those items are called. 00:09:09
Whenever possible, written correspondence should be submitted to the CDC in advance of the meeting to provide adequate time for 00:09:12
its consideration. 00:09:15
To those members of the public who have submitted comments via e-mail since our last meeting, we thank you. 00:09:19
And are there any members of the public who would like to make a comment at this time? 00:09:25
Yes. 00:09:32
Please come up and. 00:09:34
Make sure the mic is working and state your name please if you would. 00:09:36
Can't. 00:09:46
You have good right direction, but they're OK. 00:09:49
Give us one moment. 00:09:58
Let's do a test. 00:09:59
Can you do? 00:10:00
Hello, hello. There we go. Ohh, thank you. 00:10:01
I'm echoing, it's great. 00:10:03
Um. 00:10:05
I just want to say I'm I'm disappointed that the discussion of the letter of support for the current parklets was removed from the 00:10:06
agenda. 00:10:10
Because the commissioner put it on the agenda. Owns a restaurant with a parklet. 00:10:14
The parklets are a vital element of the continued economic development of our city. 00:10:18
And so it's well within the scope of this Commission. 00:10:23
When the Planning Commission released its report of the survey it had conducted among citizens and visitors related to the 00:10:26
parklets, I read through it and found many issues that indicated A bias against parklets in those who fielded the study. 00:10:32
A key person driving that study now is on the City Council and on the subcommittee, who has taken on revising the city staff 00:10:38
recommendations for a very reasonable parklet program. 00:10:43
Those recommendations found elements of truth within the survey results and ensured they were addressed, while at the same time 00:10:48
ensuring that the parklets continue to exist in a form that keeps them viable for the businesses. 00:10:53
That is what this Commission is all about and ensuring we have viable businesses that support a vibrant community. 00:10:59
That same council member showed at the City Council a video of water during a massive storm flooding the sidewalk in the parklet. 00:11:06
But failed to show video from the other streets, including in front of their own office, where the water flow was equally fierce. 00:11:12
Yet another example of bias and a hidden agenda against parklets that I honestly find mystifying. 00:11:18
The park that's are good for not only the restaurants but also the surrounding businesses because they encourage pedestrian 00:11:24
traffic. 00:11:27
And people walking by translate into some people walking in. 00:11:30
All of this is to say that the members of the subcommittee have a track record of opposing parklets as they are. 00:11:34
During the discussion on the ordinance in March, they were able to structure it such that the guidelines themselves are not in the 00:11:40
ordinance. 00:11:43
And thus can be changed by just a Council resolution without a second reading. 00:11:47
Having a clear statement from this Commission about the economic importance of the parklets, Parklets constructed in a way that 00:11:51
people would want to actually sit at on a chilly, foggy evening or a warm, sunny day with seagulls flying overhead. 00:11:57
Would have sent a powerful message to the whole of the Council, or at least those who have not been working to get rid of them. 00:12:04
Thank you. 00:12:10
Thank you. 00:12:21
Anyone else? 00:12:22
Hello. 00:12:24
I am Marie Adams Osuna, a resident of Pacific Grove. 00:12:27
I present these comments in interest of integrity and honesty in our city government. 00:12:31
I was quite taken aback by comments regarding the DUI Task Force at the last two meetings of this body. 00:12:37
I've attended every DI meeting this year. 00:12:43
And I have watched all of the videos of the past meetings. 00:12:46
In April, Commissioner Gives took umbrage at a comment by Commissioner Richmond. 00:12:50
That it is known to not support the DUI task force. 00:12:54
He demanded proof. 00:12:57
In fact, there are numerous letters to the editor of the Pacific Grove Press and the Carmel Pine Cone illustrating such. 00:12:59
These are in the public record and available online. 00:13:05
In May, Chairperson Upmin allowed Commissioner Gibbs to speak regarding the disagreement between the HE and Chairman Richmond. 00:13:08
Gibbs improperly and cynically used this time to falsely claim that he has supported DI initiatives, when in fact, quite the 00:13:15
opposite is true. 00:13:19
He, along with members from the PG Lives, used public comment to question DI Commissioners motives. 00:13:23
Claim ignorance of the meaning of an object to the use of the words diversity, equity, and inclusion. 00:13:29
Demand to be educated by the Commission. 00:13:36
And then got up and walked out of the meeting when such education was presented. 00:13:38
A direct quote from Mr. Gibbs at the February meeting. 00:13:43
Why does it have to be called diversity, equity and inclusion? A better name would be Dignified, Insight and Inspire. 00:13:46
A quote from another PG Lives member. The problem with inclusiveness is that it excludes somebody. 00:13:53
We as citizens have the right to speak our mind at public comment, just as I am doing now, but falsehoods by members of this body 00:14:01
and attacks on community members must not go unchallenged. 00:14:06
All public meeting references are recorded and can be found online. 00:14:12
The following comments are from PG resident Colleen Ingram, who had professional obligations today. 00:14:17
On the first day of Pride Month, I am sure that you are aware of the Anti LGBTQ Plus campaign against Target stores for their line 00:14:24
of merchandise celebrating Pride Month. 00:14:28
Staff were threatened with violence and Target made the decision to remove some of the merchandise too. So these attacks impacting 00:14:33
Targets brand as well as the LGBTQ plus community. 00:14:37
This anti LGBTQ plus national movement of hate and oppression affects businesses and people nationally and locally and uses 00:14:42
conservative Christian doctrine to justify their actions. 00:14:47
A very popular White Wing podcast host Matt Walsh has outlined and widely promoted how to organize these types of targeted attacks 00:14:53
toward woke businesses. 00:14:57
This is from an April tweet. Here's what we do pick a victim, gang up on it, and make an example of it. We can't boycott every 00:15:02
company, but we can pick one. Target it with ruthless boycott campaign, claim one scalp and move on to the next. This same target. 00:15:10
Tactic of targeted and relentless hounding is being used by a Commissioner Gibbs and his group PG lives against Tina Rao in an 00:15:18
effort to undermine her voice in this community. 00:15:22
The harassment has gone for on for the last year and now is being used. 00:15:27
Commissioner Gibbs is using his seat on the CDC to continue this harassment in the name of Christianity. 00:15:31
Kim's group, PPG Live, shares the white nationalist agenda. These are potentially dangerous tactics that hurt the businesses. 00:15:38
And individuals of our community, OK, I'm sorry. 00:15:44
I need to stop you there. 00:15:47
As you had two people presented in your thing, I was not sure but. 00:15:49
That is 3 minutes. Thank you. 00:15:55
Umm. 00:15:58
Do we have any other comments from the public? 00:16:00
We have a virtual Comm. 00:16:04
Ohh, thank you. 00:16:06
How inga? 00:16:09
Lorenzen domado speak. 00:16:11
Thank you, Earl. 00:16:14
I just kind of wanted to make a comment about I did jot you off a quick. 00:16:17
Letter before this meeting. And it's not just the Brown Act that governs this Commission or any Commission or task force or 00:16:23
anything else. It is the fair political practices too. 00:16:29
And it is. 00:16:36
You know, code of conduct, ethics, it's all things that. 00:16:38
Yes, as Commissioners and because you are and you accepted the position on the board. 00:16:42
You are held to different standards and they are very important. 00:16:50
Believe me, I choose to remain an outspoken member of the public. 00:16:56
And as far as the park, let's go. 00:17:02
The subcommittees working on them and the main thing has to do with traffic and safety. 00:17:05
Let the subcommittee do the job that Council directed them to do. 00:17:12
Yes, the Planning Commission has weighed in. 00:17:18
The city has weighed in as far as I'm calling the city meeting staff. 00:17:21
They have presented you, yes, you have your own preferences. Let this all play out as how it should be, and traffic and safety are 00:17:26
more important than anything else. And I'm sure the business community will be satisfied with it in the end. I mean. 00:17:36
They aren't going away. 00:17:47
You've got yours. 00:17:49
You know extended for the next year, you only have licenses for a year. So it's just let it play out, let the let the process play 00:17:51
out and traffic and safety are going to be. 00:17:57
Paramount. 00:18:04
Thank you very much. 00:18:05
Thank you. 00:18:08
And. 00:18:12
Yeah. 00:18:15
Sorry if I said that. 00:18:18
Hello, can you hear me? 00:18:21
Yes, we can hear you. 00:18:24
Oh. 00:18:26
Sorry, I'm using my friend's computer. So this is Jordan Champagne with Happy Girl Kitchen. Hello everyone. 00:18:26
And. 00:18:34
I'm just calling in also. 00:18:36
Just since this is the Economic development meeting, I just wanted to also add. 00:18:40
That I agree that the parklet issue is definitely part of the economic development. 00:18:45
And I'm really grateful for everyone that's been working really hard on this. 00:18:51
Including the city staff and. 00:18:56
I just feel like as a business owner that has a parklet, I just want to express. 00:18:59
Again, how important. 00:19:04
I think they are two Pacific Grove. 00:19:07
In general, and the success of our small little sleepy town. 00:19:09
Umm, And. 00:19:15
I also just want to mention that I did have dinner with the city planner of Half Moon Bay and he really told me how his city and. 00:19:17
The Coastal Commission have worked together. 00:19:27
To continue their parklet program. 00:19:30
Umm. 00:19:33
Indefinitely and so I just think that's a great example of. 00:19:34
The city planners really caring about the economic impact on the small businesses that these parklets have. 00:19:39
And. 00:19:46
They are also very much affected by the Coastal Commission. 00:19:47
There in Half Moon Bay and also I really appreciate how Ingham mentioned that safety is of concern and it definitely is. 00:19:51
And I know that city staff has really made that their priority. 00:20:00
I've had my parklet for seven years now and it's only increased. 00:20:05
The safety of my very dangerous corner that I'm on because it's really slowed down traffic. 00:20:10
And also the other person mentioned that it's increased the pedestrian traffic. 00:20:18
Which always increases safety and then also the economic. 00:20:23
Inspiration for any block to have people walking around. 00:20:28
Which we're over on Central. We don't have a lot of people walking around over here. 00:20:32
So I'm really grateful that the parklets have increased the safety. 00:20:37
Of our area and an economic boom. 00:20:41
So, OK, thanks. I just wanted to mention that. Have a wonderful evening. 00:20:44
Thank you. 00:20:50
I see no other hands raised. 00:20:54
I see a hand raised now. 00:20:58
Ohh, that's going away now, OK? 00:21:01
Great. OK. Seeing no more comments. 00:21:04
We move on to. 00:21:09
Yeah. 00:21:19
Find. 00:21:20
Umm. 00:21:23
I would be appropriate to move to #4 or excuse me, Section 5, which is the approval of the Minutes. 00:21:25
That's what I was looking for 23. Thank you. Yeah. 00:21:30
So we have the minutes from the May meeting of the CDC. They were distributed in advance and are included in the agenda packet 00:21:33
available to download. 00:21:37
On the CDC page of the city website. 00:21:41
Are there any questions on the Minutes from the public? 00:21:44
Seeing none, are there any questions on the minutes from commissioners? 00:21:52
Yes. 00:21:58
I think. 00:21:59
I I find it hard to get any substance out of the minutes because there's no detail. 00:22:00
There's no detail. There's no no documentation of a conversation or thought. 00:22:05
Case in point, was the discussion last. 00:22:11
Time about the Chamber potentially doing the digital gift cards. 00:22:15
It's not in here. 00:22:19
And I'm told that it's only those things that are up for vote and one can look at the video. 00:22:21
I think it would be helpful and. 00:22:27
More easily. 00:22:30
Read. 00:22:31
In print. 00:22:32
Just. 00:22:34
One line that says you know so and so said. 00:22:35
So we haven't. 00:22:39
On record. 00:22:40
Yeah, good point. 00:22:41
Mr. If I can jump in, really, please. It's the city's policy, and it's established through the City Clerk that we take action 00:22:44
minutes. 00:22:47
Actually, Minutes only reflect the actions taken. 00:22:50
And we have some very, very lengthy discussions. 00:22:53
And what often has happened in the past when not having action minutes is. 00:22:56
They'll be verbatim transcripts and somebody comes back and says, well, this isn't what I said, I said this, I said that and and 00:23:01
so on and so forth. So that's why we have the video. 00:23:05
People can just go back and actually watch what took place. 00:23:09
Determine for themselves what happened, and the minutes are really just only for recording the actions. 00:23:12
Action is. 00:23:18
And it transpires down percolates down to the boards and commissions because they're under the. 00:23:19
Council, which also has action minutes. So does this. So, for instance, does the City Council actually look at this video? 00:23:23
Did they know what we're doing? 00:23:30
They, they, they have. Certainly in the past, I know that I've had to review past videos. I know members of the public review. The 00:23:32
videos are all on the city's website and you can see the agenda, you can see the minutes and you can see the the video all 00:23:38
together. And it's very common that I have members of the public who've viewed something that have a question or. 00:23:44
Council member follows up on something or or a board member. So yes, very, very common. 00:23:51
OK. 00:23:55
So is there a reason that the Chamber? 00:23:57
Discussion was not included. 00:23:59
So again the the minutes only reflect the actions taken. 00:24:01
So each agenda report. 00:24:05
As an action. 00:24:07
And that's recorded and what's not recorded in the minutes is the discussion. 00:24:08
If you want to view the discussion, that's where you can go back to the video. So Jenny was asked to go back to her board and she 00:24:13
agreed to do that. 00:24:16
Where do we have follow up in these Minutes? 00:24:20
So that wasn't a formal and I think if you're if I recall what you're talking about. 00:24:23
There was some discussion on an item and it was suggested that she go back to her board. It wasn't actually official 00:24:29
recommendation from the EDC. I don't think that there was a motion. 00:24:33
Maybe I'm incorrect about that. If there was a motion, it would have been reflected, reflected in the action. If it was just in 00:24:37
the commissioner discussion and there was a suggestion and she nodded her head. 00:24:42
And said OK that you know she she elected to pursue that as an action item, but. 00:24:46
There wasn't actually a motion. It's not going to be reflected. 00:24:52
In the action minutes. OK, so next time I need to make a motion. 00:24:56
Well, and you have to have a motion this germane to what you're of course what's being discussed obviously and you have to have a 00:25:00
second on the motion and you have to have the board. 00:25:04
Approve it. I understand. 00:25:09
And actually just. 00:25:12
As a thought, the last agenda item is to suggest things for future agendas, and you could suggest something at that point. OK, 00:25:13
perfect. Thank you. 00:25:18
Thanks for the clarification. 00:25:22
OK. 00:25:24
So is there a motion to approve the minutes as presented? 00:25:26
I mean, we. 00:25:30
Thank you, Commissioner, Thank you, Commissioner Hoops. 00:25:32
OK, so. 00:25:37
Would you do roll call, please? Absolutely, Commissioner Venuti. 00:25:39
Mr. Richmond. 00:25:43
Aye, Vice Chair Jacobs. Commissioner Markowitz. Sorry, Commissioner Hoops. 00:25:44
Mr. Gibbs, yes. 00:25:49
Motion passes 61 Chair upland absent. 00:25:50
Thank you. 00:25:56
So. 00:25:58
We. 00:26:00
Would ideally have moved on to talking to Yvonne Battistini, but I understand that that is not. 00:26:01
That's. 00:26:08
Disappeared from our agenda for today. 00:26:09
Correct, Vice Chair. That is on the agenda. I will tell you that normally we rely upon all the work that. 00:26:11
Secretary Macmurdo does to line that up. She's unfortunately out of town. I think it just in all the preparations for her being 00:26:19
out of town and. 00:26:22
This meeting date changing, somehow that got lost unfortunately. 00:26:26
But I will certainly follow up with the Secretary and I'll we'll line that up for the next meeting to be on there. Sure. Because 00:26:30
now that we have our new time, it would be lovely to continue some of these enriching interviews that we do with local businesses. 00:26:35
So that would be great. Thank you. 00:26:40
So we have a. 00:26:46
Miraculously short meeting today. 00:26:48
So. 00:26:50
Let's see. We now move on to. 00:26:53
The Arts District update. 00:26:58
Which is? 00:27:02
Um, which is? 00:27:03
My agenda item. 00:27:05
So. 00:27:07
Umm. 00:27:08
The last time that I spoke with you about the Arts District was in February. 00:27:10
And. 00:27:15
We were interested in a couple of. 00:27:18
Major priorities at that time one is creating. 00:27:21
A. 00:27:25
You know long term relationships in the city of amongst artists and businesses to. 00:27:26
Have collaboration and we were also interested in a model that would work for us to achieve this this goal. 00:27:34
So the strategy that we settled on. 00:27:41
For for trying to do this, it was to have a community meeting. 00:27:44
And we did that in March. Many of you were actually at our meeting. 00:27:49
And. 00:27:54
And I I just want to say that really, I'm here to report that the Arts District, though it's clearly in its baby steps. 00:27:55
Phase is already contributing to the vibrance and the health of Pacific Grove. And not only that, but we. 00:28:02
Really unexpectedly discovered that. 00:28:09
Yeah, well, the well. 00:28:13
We were hoping all along, but when parts of the community come together and work together. 00:28:15
A lot of potential is unleashed and it's been, you know, a. 00:28:21
A great process so far, even though it's just really we're still creating infrastructure. 00:28:25
We've been stunned at what can be accomplished so. 00:28:31
The community meeting was a really energetic and enthusiastic gathering of many different groups. 00:28:35
We elicited goals, we brainstormed ideas, we gathered feedback, and we tabulated everything into a spreadsheet. 00:28:42
And I won't tell you all, I just want to keep this short actually. But we we found that public art is the priority many people 00:28:48
mention. That is something that they would aspire to in our town. 00:28:55
Second priority is collaboration. 00:29:04
So. 00:29:06
That was. 00:29:08
Really interesting. We also found something unexpected though. We have a very large number of language arts creatives in Pacific 00:29:09
Grove. 00:29:12
Umm. 00:29:16
Lots of publishers, poets, writers. 00:29:17
Literary agents. 00:29:20
A lot of you know founders of of. 00:29:24
Printing presses and and and arts festivals for language arts. 00:29:27
Um, the other thing we found is that there's a great. 00:29:31
Clamor for venues. People would like venues. 00:29:34
And. 00:29:37
They're very expensive. It's one of the hardest things when organizing arts events. 00:29:38
And so we understand that one of our roles in the future will be to either provide subsidies or. 00:29:43
Broker some low cost venues for arts events. 00:29:51
Umm. 00:29:55
And umm. 00:29:56
Just looking at the affordability of producing events. 00:29:59
Um. 00:30:03
An idea that was first shared at that meeting was to have a sidewalk chalk art festival. So when the BID was trying to brainstorm 00:30:04
some activities to give pizzazz to the Small Business Saturday. 00:30:10
That idea was mentioned and it was incorporated. So this is exactly an example of what we wanted to do. 00:30:16
Have collaboration across different groups and individuals in the city because by working together we are unleashing the potential 00:30:23
of this event to draw people to Pacific Grove, to get young people and artists working together, and to have some civic fun. And 00:30:28
so far the response has been. 00:30:33
Amazing. Really enthusiastic Some. 00:30:38
Local people have donated sets of chalk and books on how to do chalk art to schools and the there's a great there was a great 00:30:42
response from the local schools. 00:30:48
Umm. 00:30:55
To talk about some of the jobs that we've got done, we've published a website. We are working on an integrated calendar for events 00:30:56
there. We've created an Instagram account which we're using to support local businesses and repost any arts centric news from 00:31:02
Pacific Grove businesses and nonprofits. 00:31:07
We're in the final stage of preparing the discovery map of art centric businesses for print. 00:31:14
We have a newsletter list of about 300 people. 00:31:20
We've sent one e-mail so far the name of the e-mail of the newsletter is Verve. 00:31:23
Because there was a discussion of artificial intelligence and one. 00:31:30
And a famous. 00:31:34
Literary critic said. 00:31:35
AI is never going to replace the intelligence and verb of human beings, and that resonated so. 00:31:37
The newsletter is called Verve. 00:31:43
Umm. 00:31:45
Let's see. We've organized a fundraiser music series. 00:31:47
We've designed a free course for local artists in augmented reality, or AR as it's called. 00:31:52
We've promoted some free films and we hope that these tools and this framework that we're building is going to release. Sorry I 00:31:58
support. 00:32:03
Local artists. 00:32:09
Umm. 00:32:10
So I'm going to. 00:32:12
Pass around the discovery map. 00:32:13
Umm. 00:32:17
Maybe I will just leave it out and just to not. 00:32:19
Right here, OK. 00:32:24
And this is just the. 00:32:25
First version. 00:32:27
But you can see. 00:32:28
Umm. 00:32:29
Kind of what? 00:32:30
What? 00:32:35
The idea is it's got a few mistakes on it that. 00:32:36
And at the moment it's being corrected. 00:32:39
The business owners are writing blurbs about their the local art that they have. 00:32:41
Umm. 00:32:47
Overall, the business owners have been really thrilled to have this framework for communicating what's special about their local 00:32:52
artists wears and showcasing some of their very high quality local artists. 00:32:57
Umm. 00:33:03
There's some Jewelers. 00:33:04
Locally that sell. Nationally, they're very well known and they're in local shops. Not many people know them. 00:33:06
So. 00:33:12
Shop. 00:33:13
Owners were really happy to. 00:33:14
Kind of. 00:33:15
Join in on a spotlight to highlight them. 00:33:17
And some have responded by creating a locally made. 00:33:19
Section in their shop, so we're making signs flagging local artists. 00:33:23
They feel that that's giving a good profile to their business. 00:33:27
So in April, I applied for $140,000 grant from the Central Coast Creative Corp that was a tip off from Mayor Peak. It looked like 00:33:37
a good fit for the Arts District. We should be hearing any day now about that, even it's a very high amount and there's not a. 00:33:46
I think the diminishes your chances of of being awarded that. I think there was a lot of people, I think there was 150 people that 00:33:56
applied. 00:33:59
And even if we don't get it, we have made ourselves known. 00:34:03
To that community and it might help in future. 00:34:08
Grant applications. 00:34:12
Umm. 00:34:14
I did want to spend a few minutes introducing one of the board members, Karen Owen. She's a digital artist. She's on the board of 00:34:16
the Pacific Grove Arts Center. 00:34:20
She has several fields of expertise, but she's working with the Arts District as a specialist in AR augmented reality. 00:34:24
So. 00:34:33
I don't want to have this discussion without trying to explain what AR is because I'm not sure everyone knows but. 00:34:34
If you've ever shopped for furniture recently, you might have found those apps where. 00:34:39
There's a chair that you want to buy, and you can hold your phone up to your living room and you'll see your the chair. What it 00:34:45
does is IT projects an image on top of your own 3D space. 00:34:50
And then you can like move the chair to the other side of the fireplace or whatever you want to do so it's interactive in 3D. 00:34:56
Umm. 00:35:06
So. 00:35:09
It's. 00:35:10
Doctors have used this like in low success. 00:35:14
Surgeries like brain surgery, they can get. 00:35:17
A 3D image of your brain and perform the surgery on that several times before they actually. 00:35:20
You know, do the surgery. 00:35:25
On the patient and it's. 00:35:26
It's. 00:35:29
A really interesting kind of cutting edge technology and. 00:35:30
Karen is. 00:35:35
Actually developed this software. 00:35:37
She's developed it and trained people on it for decades and she is the person if you on good old days, you found her. 00:35:40
Stand She was running the Arts Center and Arts District. 00:35:47
Combined stand there in front of the Art centre. 00:35:51
Out of that, she had two solid requests to collaborate, one with Monterey Peninsula College Training students and other with the 00:35:55
Presidio Training Military staff. 00:36:00
Also. 00:36:05
On that day, Adobe recruited her to develop software AR software with their team. So kind of a lot has come out of that. 00:36:06
Umm. 00:36:13
Through the Arts District, Karen has offered to train local artists in Pacific Grove for free. 00:36:14
She was very moved at the meeting, many artists reporting, self reporting. 00:36:19
Financial insecurity. 00:36:26
And she. 00:36:28
Immediately thought, it's very easy to train people on AR if you've got adequate level of of tech. 00:36:30
You know technology skills. 00:36:37
Umm. 00:36:39
She is. 00:36:40
Has offered to teach. 00:36:43
Artists for free and so that they can have marketable skills because people were reporting that they have to leave Pacific Grove 00:36:45
because it's an affluent and high cost area and she's very dedicated to trying to keep the talent in Pacific Grove and developing 00:36:50
the sector. 00:36:55
She has asked several local businesses. 00:37:01
Including me to be Guinea pigs so that she could make a portfolio for her students. 00:37:05
So for instance, she's put QR codes on our embedded in our. 00:37:10
Menu. So you can scan that and see our farmers there in the restaurant. It's because we work very closely with local suppliers and 00:37:16
our fishermen and our foragers and things. So that's just a. 00:37:22
You know, an example that she's trying to get people interested and excited in, in doing that? 00:37:28
She's also coaching the students working on the Summer Lights Festival. 00:37:34
So I. 00:37:39
I think this is a. 00:37:41
What I would? 00:37:42
Consider a. 00:37:43
And exactly you know one of the an example of. 00:37:45
The sort of success that we wanted to have. 00:37:49
Because an older. 00:37:51
Member. 00:37:54
Of our community who's very, very talented is partnering, partnering with younger people for free to so they can be more 00:37:55
resilient, they can learn skills and she's offering cutting edge technology to businesses locally. 00:38:01
Another project that has come out of this is the West Coast Book Festival in Pacific Grove, headed by General Jennifer Carson, who 00:38:09
is now doing a feasibility study. 00:38:13
Given the high number of language arts creatives, publishers and, well, bookish people in town, this gives vibrance to our 00:38:18
identity and reinforces our strengths. 00:38:23
Umm. 00:38:29
One of the language artists mentioned. 00:38:34
In the community meeting that the National Steinbeck Center in Salinas is struggling, possibly facing closure. 00:38:38
And the proposal was made to consider moving it here to Pacific Grove as we are closer to the tourist points. 00:38:44
We feel that as a town with strong links to Steinbeck, this strengthens our identity and character and would attract very good 00:38:50
quality visitors that truly appreciate our town. 00:38:54
So it's just it was just an idea that came out. Nothing actually has happened on that so far, but. 00:38:59
There is a committee forming who would like to explore it. 00:39:05
Poet Brian Sheffield is working on a project called Fog Writing. He and other poets are writing poems to eventually be written on 00:39:09
walls and sidewalks with a medium which is invisible. 00:39:14
Invisible, that is, until it gets wet, for example in fog or drizzle. 00:39:19
Then the poem will appear. 00:39:24
And as it dries out, it disappears again. 00:39:26
We feel that this helps to develop our character as a quiet town famous for its fog, and it's a fun feature to shout about in our 00:39:28
marketing and come to Pacific Grove and discover the fog, writing poems if you can. 00:39:34
Jason Bradley is working on a Ted X series that highlights the ocean. 00:39:40
He knows a lot of internationally famous scientists and researchers and artists that live in our area and work with the ocean. 00:39:46
And have as the. 00:39:53
Ted talk. 00:39:55
Tagline is ideas worth sharing. 00:39:57
He's because of his work. He, He. 00:40:01
There's a lot of of really interesting people and he's he's excited to. 00:40:03
Prepare that. 00:40:08
We're also, we realize we need to do fundraising and there are people who have volunteered to do that. So we're working on fun and 00:40:09
interesting ways to do that. 00:40:14
We're in the early days of discussing the Kelp Festival, a uniquely Pacific Grove festival that highlights ocean science, art and 00:40:20
sustainable seafood. Watch this space. 00:40:25
The art district is, as I mentioned, we'll have 4 socials per year, one every quarter. 00:40:32
Please don't forget the next one is June 22nd at Bradley Photographic Gallery. All welcome. 00:40:37
Our format. We've been experimenting with what? 00:40:43
You know how we want to run this and we are inviting people to submit ideas for a project ahead of time. 00:40:47
And then at the meeting presented and invite people to collaborate with them. 00:40:54
We or or just brainstorm like you know, Do you think you might know someone who could help out with this kind of thing to just be 00:40:59
mutually supportive? And there are a lot of really smart. 00:41:05
Creative people. 00:41:10
And in a nice vibe, really. 00:41:13
Umm. 00:41:16
We also for fun as a warm up, we do some kind of art at the beginning of the meeting. So you may see dancers improvising to a 00:41:17
poem, or you may be asked to write a group poem or create a mural sketch. 00:41:24
With a partner or some other unexpected, potentially embarrassing and definitely very fun creative activity. 00:41:32
Hopefully find collaborators, initiate projects and more. 00:41:40
The Arts District Committee deeply and sincerely thanks the EDC for the investment of $5000 from last year's budget. 00:41:44
We hope commissioners in the city will feel that the money has been used widely, wisely, has fulfilled its aims and finds our 00:41:51
successes aligned with the goals of the Commission. Thank you. 00:41:56
So. 00:42:04
Can I ask are there any public? 00:42:06
Comments for this agenda item. 00:42:08
And. 00:42:14
Seeing none, no, there's. 00:42:15
In Miss Dahmer. 00:42:18
Ohh, wonderful. Thank you. OK. 00:42:19
Thank you. 00:42:24
Well, this is much more than just an oral report. 00:42:25
Things were passed out. 00:42:30
The discovery map. 00:42:33
And something else passed out on the dyess. 00:42:36
That the public has no knowledge of or can't see. 00:42:40
That already is a violation. 00:42:44
Umm. 00:42:47
And I'm just saying all these things should have been written up in a report because. 00:42:49
As the city manager said, these are action minutes only. 00:42:54
And we would love to see these. I mean, it would be wonderful. 00:42:59
To support this and to get the public support if you had a little slides that are in. 00:43:04
The agenda report so that we could see these. 00:43:11
You know a PowerPoint. 00:43:14
All these things that you were saying. 00:43:16
Yeah, they're wonderful. 00:43:19
But we can only. 00:43:21
Access. 00:43:22
Any of this information? 00:43:24
By tuning into the video when the city decides to post, post it. 00:43:26
So this is a problem here. To get your message message across, I think you need to include. 00:43:31
More information. 00:43:39
In your agenda reports. 00:43:41
That. 00:43:43
Is not just. 00:43:44
What you read to us. 00:43:46
It would be very helpful. 00:43:49
To give the public some visual. 00:43:51
And I see a Commissioner, you know, shaking his head and all, ohh, what in the world? Well. 00:43:56
Hey, this pesky public is here and we're here to stay, so we support you. 00:44:03
We really do. It's just we need more information doing it and more accessible. 00:44:09
Information. 00:44:15
Thank you very much. 00:44:17
Yeah. Thank you very much. 00:44:20
Any other hands raised? 00:44:24
No. 00:44:28
OK. Any comments or questions from commissioners? 00:44:30
Program. 00:44:37
Sidewalk chalk program. What are you doing to promote it? 00:44:38
How many people know about it so? 00:44:41
There's Steve Thomas, who does the marketing for the Business Improvement District. 00:44:44
Has. 00:44:50
Said. 00:44:52
The standard is 3 weeks ahead of the event. 00:44:54
So he has a a long list of publications that is going out to social media. 00:44:59
And we're actually trying to get a good deal with KSU, which they they seem to be very supportive arts. So we're. 00:45:06
Umm. 00:45:15
We think we will have some radio advertising. Will you do any paid advertising, print and print. There is paid advertising in, 00:45:17
it's in the BID budget. 00:45:21
And I don't have the details, I apologize. But I can certainly get them. That's great. And then what's your handle for your? 00:45:27
Instagram or website? How do I find oh excellent question, It's. 00:45:33
At. 00:45:37
Arts District, Pacific Grove. 00:45:38
Everybody follow us please. And is that the same for the website? 00:45:41
The website is WWW dot. 00:45:47
Arts District. 00:45:51
Pg.org. I think that one is abbreviated to PG. OK. 00:45:54
Yeah. Thank you. 00:46:02
Please, please visit. 00:46:03
Umm. 00:46:05
The. 00:46:06
A web person had some difficulty with the integrated calendar and so. 00:46:08
You'll see a big changes soon, but it's it's basic right now. 00:46:14
Umm. 00:46:19
Any other questions? 00:46:20
Yes, Commissioner Gibbs. 00:46:22
Thank you. Nice work just. 00:46:25
It may not be possible, but to miss Dahmer's point. 00:46:26
You did have some notes. Is it possible to include those notes in? 00:46:29
The agenda minutes or somehow so that the. 00:46:33
People, I think there's a great deal of interest in this and. 00:46:37
That was a really nice overview. We should have access to that. 00:46:40
Sure. I was invited to do a 5 minute talk actually, so I didn't consider it formal, but I am more than happy to make it available. 00:46:44
Sure. Commissioner gives through the vice chair. If you have an electronic document that's like a Word document, is that what 00:46:54
you're reading from? Yeah, OK Yeah, we we could, you know, if you could put an appropriate. 00:46:59
Title on that. I think we could post that with the agenda. We could, we could figure that out. You could also include the. 00:47:05
Map that you sent out. 00:47:13
Just give give us an appropriate. 00:47:15
You know Word PDF and send it to us and we can post that. 00:47:17
Somehow, with the agenda Laurel, we'll figure out how to do that. But we can, we can take care of that. 00:47:20
Sure. And I'll just say that the map that I showed is a version of the one which I showed previously in February. It just looks a 00:47:26
little bit nicer, so. 00:47:30
But I am going to make it available. Thank you. 00:47:36
Yeah. 00:47:40
I had another question. 00:47:42
Please, Commissioner Gibbs, thank you for doing that by the way, and the website, I haven't seen it, so I'm eager to go. 00:47:43
Look it up. Is there a blog? 00:47:49
Associated with the website where you can. 00:47:51
No, at this point there is no blog we're using social media to. 00:47:54
At this point, it's just to promote people in Pacific Grove. 00:48:03
However. 00:48:05
It is a. 00:48:08
It's a good practice to have. 00:48:09
More interesting creative original posts. 00:48:12
In social media. So we will definitely be doing that in the future, OK. Are you? 00:48:15
Are you soliciting content you know, from people in in town at this point or is that later on we have our our newsletter too? So 00:48:20
if you would like to submit something to the arts district, there's a committee and it would just go through the normal process. 00:48:26
So absolutely, I heartily invite. 00:48:32
Contributions. Thank you. 00:48:38
Alright. And my other question is about the West Coast book. 00:48:40
Festival. Can I find that on the website too? That's pretty interesting. I didn't know about it. Jennifer Carson owns a business 00:48:46
in town called To the Lighthouse and she actually her first. 00:48:52
Proposal was to have a National Book festival in Pacific Grove and then when there was a lot of interest in that, she said. Oh my 00:48:58
God, she said we have to start with a West Coast wedding, at least initially. 00:49:04
And then? 00:49:10
She's she's realized that she is going to need a budget. And so there's all those considerations right now, and she will. 00:49:12
But she's talking to. I mean, lots of writers have expressed an interest and they are talking together, so there's nothing to show 00:49:19
right now but there. 00:49:25
Really happy to talk and you know, OK, well, I'm interested in hoping if. 00:49:31
If she wanted to reach out, interested in that and my yeah, my last question is, is there anything else that this Commission? 00:49:37
Can do it, you know. I was amazed at the amount. 00:49:45
You know. 00:49:47
Stuff that's going on, Is there anything else we can do to? 00:49:48
Accelerate that or help it along. 00:49:52
Yeah, that's very kind of you. I mean, you all as individuals are invited to. 00:49:54
Come to events and participate in the meeting. And you know, it's not just for artists and businesses, it's for like ordinary 00:49:59
people. If I can use that word, nobody's just ordinary. But because it's it's really about people working together, so. 00:50:06
Coming just, you know, supporting events and things is key. 00:50:15
I I don't know. 00:50:20
What I think there was some interest in the committee to. 00:50:22
If people were happy with the progress and the way the money was spent to possibly ask for a small amount for the coming year. 00:50:29
Umm. 00:50:35
But that hasn't, that's just been an idea that I've heard batted around so. 00:50:37
Yeah, financial support, but. 00:50:41
Yeah, I mean, please tell. 00:50:44
Please spread the word. That's. That's really supportive. Thank you. 00:50:47
Is there a place on the website to you're a 501C3? Well, actually we're just in the process of becoming A501C3 and as soon as that 00:50:50
happens, there will be the donate button on the website. Yeah, thank you. Yeah. 00:50:57
Any other questions? 00:51:06
Here you say you're thinking you're looking into having the Steinbeck Center move to Pacific Grove. 00:51:08
That was an idea that somebody had at the brainstorm session. Like I think the activity said, you know what are some aspirational? 00:51:14
Like Blue Sky thinking like if you you know, what would you like to see in Pacific Grove? 00:51:23
And someone who works with the Steinbeck Center said Ohh they're gonna be closing it. I think it's I I don't know it's all I don't 00:51:27
want to go on record actually I'm sorry I don't know. But they the there was maybe some difficulty and. 00:51:34
There's lots of ideas I'm sure that they have for. 00:51:41
You know, saving things or fixing things. 00:51:45
They thought like, if not move the Steinbeck Center if you know because maybe because we're closer to the tourist spots, it would 00:51:49
increase the. 00:51:53
Ability of people to. 00:51:58
Support the Steinbeck Centre and then maybe an annex in Pacific Grove, but then you have to find venues and you have to you know 00:51:59
it's it's a whole big deal and but. 00:52:05
Already I know four people who have said they would. 00:52:10
Like to pursue that and actually they said they would like to talk to the city manager and see if there's any possibility to go 00:52:13
forward with something like that. 00:52:17
So I used to work at the Steinbeck Center. I'm very familiar with it. Ohh, and we twist your arm. 00:52:23
Yeah, I'd be happy to. I was their fundraiser. 00:52:28
Oh, great. Thank you. I know a lot about its history and its financial position, OK. And its challenges. So I'd be happy to help 00:52:30
you in that way. Yeah. Can I get you saying this is such a microcosm of, like, all this stuff we wanna do? People have talents, 00:52:36
and when we can put them in a room together, so many great things happen. Commissioner Markowitz. 00:52:42
Sorry, I just wanted to mention that you have the Steinbeck, the whole idea of Steinbeck thing. I don't know how many people have 00:52:49
been here for a really long time, but back in the early 90s, there was this guy who kept walking around and saying he was a good 00:52:55
friend of John Steinbeck and knew everything. You remember who I'm talking about. I can't really say he wanted. 00:53:01
When the Steinbeck Center announced it was opening in Salinas, he said it should be in Pacific Grove and he put a statue of John 00:53:07
Steinbeck down there on Lighthouse on Central Ave. You know where that. 00:53:11
Turn is there? There's a statue there that supposedly John Steinbeck, this guy was so passionate, he would decorate the house on 00:53:16
Steinbeck's birthday. And he, I believe, actually came to City Council and thought it was a great idea to develop the Steinbeck 00:53:23
Center in Pacific Grove rather than Salinas. So this idea has been around for more than 30 years, a long time. 00:53:30
Maybe it's time to take it forward. 00:53:39
Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Very, very interesting. 00:53:41
Can I? 00:53:46
Keep asking anymore. 00:53:47
Questions or comments? 00:53:49
Owen. 00:53:56
OK. 00:54:00
Good. So we're on agenda item 10, unfinished and ongoing business. 00:54:04
This portion of the meeting is reserved for commissioners or staff to make recommendations for future agenda items. 00:54:10
Are there any comments from commissioners or staff? 00:54:17
Yes. 00:54:23
Mr. Markowitz. 00:54:24
And this is something that I brought up when I first showed up on this Commission was 2 1/2 so years ago. 00:54:25
And. 00:54:31
And I asked Moe audit and no, we don't do anything. And the same with the former chairman. My question was when BFA decided to 00:54:33
move. 00:54:37
And when? 00:54:41
The other bank across the street decided to close. I put a question on what plans have been made to take a look at replacing those 00:54:42
facilities. 00:54:46
I have yet to hear an answer. 00:54:49
That was one the second thing that I. 00:54:51
Was really concerned about I love Chinese food and every Chinese restaurant in Pacific Grove has closed. I asked Moe, I said 00:54:54
what's going on? I'll get back to you. I wanted to. I was going to ask. 00:54:59
Jenny that, But she's not here tonight. Those are a couple of things. And also we, Jenny and I had gone over stuff the last time. 00:55:06
About various projects, that funding requests have already been approved and we tried to put that on the agenda beginning last 00:55:13
November and it kept getting postponed it because we got together with it. 00:55:17
I was going to go over that with her, so I would like something to be on the next agenda and maybe I'll talk to her about it, 00:55:22
about putting this on and discussing the funding grants through the Chamber that we had discussed. 00:55:27
It kept getting dumped off of this and maybe somebody can come up with an answers. 00:55:32
Why aren't their banks and why aren't their Chinese restaurants? And the other thing I have, and this is going to sound really 00:55:36
peculiar, I know we're doing a lot of. 00:55:40
I love this Commission. Everybody's having great ideas, but I'm taking a look. We're talking about parklets, we're talking about 00:55:44
arts districts and things like that. 00:55:48
Yeah. 00:55:51
I know we're talking about doing all that, but one thing that really bothers me. 00:55:52
And I'll just. 00:55:56
Bring this out. 00:55:57
Is when I go driving around in the morning. I get my newspapers and I go driving around and you come down and you drive past the 00:55:58
post office and toasties and you're on Lighthouse Ave. 00:56:03
From there to the ocean. 00:56:08
There's just people. There's nothing. There's hotels, there's things. There's one restaurant. 00:56:10
There's one little restaurant that serves all those people. 00:56:14
And there's the. 00:56:16
Lunch bar at the golf course. 00:56:18
I'm sitting here thinking, you know, if we want to really provide for not only visitors but for people here, wouldn't it be nice 00:56:20
to take a walk down Lighthouse Ave. when you come down and not? 00:56:25
Go where all the cars are parked in slanted. Maybe walk down to the ocean. Maybe there's a chance that. 00:56:31
Hey, another restaurant. I don't know about the zoning or something, but I mean, there's a whole half of this city of Pacific 00:56:37
Grove. 00:56:40
That's very valuable. 00:56:44
And it's just homes. 00:56:45
And I don't think we're doing right now enough to address that. And that's just a comment. I just wanted to toss that out there. 00:56:47
Yeah. Thank you so much for that. 00:56:54
I I'm going to pass this on to Eric because he just couldn't be here today. So I'm just chairing the meeting. He's still in charge 00:56:56
of making the agenda, so. 00:57:01
I I think that's a great points and let's. 00:57:06
Well, we'll definitely pass all that on and yeah, thank you, Commissioner Markowitz. 00:57:10
Are there any other comments? Yeah. Can we also put the idea of the Chamber exploring the digital gift cards? Of course. Thank 00:57:15
you, Commissioner. 00:57:20
Venuti. 00:57:26
Let's see. 00:57:27
Are these for suggested agenda items? Is that? 00:57:31
What we're discussing, that's exactly what we do, so I think we should definitely. 00:57:34
Either I can now if it's appropriate to make a motion that we should. 00:57:37
Reintroduce. 00:57:42
A letter to draft in support of parklets coming from this Commission, if it's appropriate for me to do that now for an agenda item 00:57:43
next next meeting. 00:57:47
I think we should definitely. 00:57:51
Do that and then because I don't. 00:57:53
I don't even own my car, so you know, let's I have no conflict of interest, so. 00:57:56
So it's good. 00:58:02
Yeah. Thank you. So Vice chair, if I could jump in. There's probably 2 avenues that you could pursue that if you, if you wish. As 00:58:03
the vice chair indicated, the chair has the ability to determine what's on the agenda or not on the agenda. 00:58:09
I would say you could recommend to the chair. 00:58:16
Either to convene as a. 00:58:20
Special meeting for that. 00:58:22
Or as a regular meeting. Those are the two options that you have. 00:58:24
Commissioner Richmond. 00:58:29
For my first time, that was actually exactly what I wanted to do. I was going to request or make a motion to request a special 00:58:31
meeting to happen about the parklet program before the next City Council meeting. 00:58:36
So if I could jump in again, you don't have an item on the agenda. There wouldn't really be an item to make a special. 00:58:43
Motion for it. But I think you know what the vice chair could do is, you know, she could look around the diet and see if there 00:58:49
seems to be interest in a special meeting. You may want to. 00:58:53
Hypothetically, throw out a couple of dates and see if you have people that nod their heads. That might be a way so that the vice 00:58:58
chair would know if there's. 00:59:01
Availability or not. Otherwise, Laurel and I would then have to follow up with all of you to see if you're. 00:59:05
Around. 00:59:09
Right. OK. So I I know that some people are away on, I think. 00:59:10
You're actually away for a while, I heard you say. So when would you be back? Ohh, I'm back the 19th I believe. 00:59:15
So. 00:59:25
OK. And that is before. 00:59:26
The. 00:59:28
The council meeting. 00:59:29
So. 00:59:31
What date is that? 00:59:32
Umm. 00:59:35
Is anyone? 00:59:36
Any other dates like? I suppose, well, there's. 00:59:38
Yeah, the 19th is very close on the heels of would anyone else be available? We would need a quorum, I take it? 00:59:42
The 19th. I'm just trying to find out what I am. 00:59:49
Out of the state the 15th through the 20th. 00:59:53
Got it. OK. 00:59:57
So but I think this is. 00:59:58
And again, I don't know protocol is if there's possibility for zoom, so if I could just jump in again, sorry. What I might suggest 01:00:01
is. 01:00:05
Stick with the date that you normally meet. 01:00:09
Date and time, because that's usually when most of these commissioners are available. So stick with a Thursday at 4:00 o'clock I 01:00:11
would. 01:00:14
Suggest you pick an alternate. 01:00:17
Thursday. 01:00:19
You can join remotely if you provide the address where you are going to be. 01:00:20
In advance of the agenda being posted. 01:00:27
And we then provide your address on the agenda. 01:00:30
And then you have to post the agenda wherever you are, and if a member of the public wants to come into your room or house, they 01:00:34
are entitled to do so. 01:00:38
Your other choices you can just show up in person, but that is the rule with the brown act. So. 01:00:43
There you have it. Is that still all good? If you're out of the state or out of the country, Yes, as long as you post. As long as 01:00:48
we have your address. 01:00:51
It's a real address and as long as you actually post the agenda on the. 01:00:55
Wherever the public entrance is to where you are. 01:00:59
It's your hotel room, whatever, and the members of the public are able to come in. 01:01:02
All right. Thank you. 01:01:06
I hope. I hope it's somewhere really nice. Yeah. OK, so could we look at a few dates? Then there's the 8th is next week, and then 01:01:08
the week after that is the 15th. 01:01:14
So would you? 01:01:21
Could we say to Eric then, is there interest from? 01:01:23
At least four people. 01:01:27
So, so that's so the 8th works. I think if since it's a special meeting, there's like seemingly one topic. If we could go a little 01:01:29
later in the day seeing how we don't have a backstop here, I think that would probably be easier for everybody to kind of be. 01:01:35
For people, you know, meet it maybe five or something like this and get our half hour business together and then move on. 01:01:43
Exactly. I was going to say Planning Commission has to set up at 5:30 on June 8th. 01:01:51
OK. So 529 sounds great for everybody. 01:01:56
Umm. 01:02:00
OK. So maybe 430, would that work or? 01:02:01
OK. I don't, I don't anticipate this taking a ton of time, so. 01:02:07
OK. 01:02:11
This business meeting have to be open to the public? Absolutely, yeah. 01:02:15
So I think there'll be a lot of public comment, So it could take some time. 01:02:18
OK. 01:02:21
You're that's probably. 01:02:22
Accurate. 01:02:24
Well, I guess Thursday at four was is probably the thing then, huh? 01:02:27
Yeah. 01:02:31
I mean, if we want to do it next week, let's let's just get it on the calendar now and if I could just add whatever. 01:02:32
Commissioner feels the motivation to do this. Yes, the chair decides what's on the meeting, but usually the chair. 01:02:38
Likes to have an agenda report to go with it, so it has to be somebody who does not have a conflict. 01:02:45
With a parklet that would be riding up whatever is being suggested if it's a. 01:02:50
Request for a letter if it's a statement or whatever it is, and then you can get that to me. I'm happy to help put it into a Word 01:02:56
document. You can just Simply put it in a. 01:03:00
E-mail but. 01:03:05
In that be. 01:03:06
But the chair has to green light that and then I could put it into the and is that just? 01:03:07
This is. 01:03:12
The agenda item this is what we're going to talk about or is this like we are going to you would you would be just council take 01:03:13
taking look at an agenda report in your packet and just use the same topics you know 2 from meeting date subject. 01:03:19
Don't worry about the Sequa. I can handle that. And the recommendation, the discussion that's really so and and if you want to put 01:03:25
that into an e-mail. 01:03:29
That's how I can then put it into the agenda management system, assuming, of course, the chair decides that we're going to have a 01:03:33
special meeting and this is the item on it. 01:03:36
So, well, I think you mean. 01:03:42
Chairman Upman, correct. Yeah. So I will. Thank you. 01:03:44
You can't do it, is what he's saying. 01:03:51
That's correct, I can pass. 01:03:54
Your comments, everybody's comments onto. 01:03:56
Chairman Huffman and he will. 01:03:59
Well, he'll be contacting everybody if if he. 01:04:05
Well, one way or another I think would, but I think, I think in the essence of time, what? 01:04:08
City manager is suggesting is that somebody? 01:04:13
Drafts the recommendation and sends it to the city manager like one of the commissioners sends the city manager probably like 01:04:15
within the next day or two. And it can't come from you list because then we go back to soon as you call. It's a 24 hour notice 01:04:21
that you need to have for a meeting. So if we're meeting on the 8th, then it would be sometime. 01:04:26
Before 24 hours before the 8th? Well, what? So yes and no. So you're correct the the meeting notice requirements for a special 01:04:32
meeting is less than a regular meeting. It's only 24 hours, however. 01:04:37
We also need to get it into the agenda management system and post it. So I would say today is the. 01:04:43
First, I mean we we would want to have an item no later. 01:04:50
Then probably close of business on Monday the 5th if if somebody is so inclined to do that. 01:04:54
That was would be how I'd feel comfortable enough to. 01:04:59
I'll I'll just send an agenda item to to city manager and. 01:05:02
We'll just go from there. 01:05:07
And this doesn't need a motion. 01:05:08
No, because the chair decides. We don't know if the chair is even going to want to convene this meeting. You're just simply 01:05:11
forwarding along. There was a discussion about a possible. 01:05:15
Special meeting. He will decide if you're going to convene one and then you know. 01:05:18
May just could I just or most people available next week if there was going to be one. This is not a motion, just. 01:05:24
Nod your head yes if you are. 01:05:30
OK, I can just know there would be quotes like the majority is available. 01:05:32
Thank you. OK. Can I just? 01:05:37
I'm a. 01:05:39
Maybe I'm slow. I haven't been accused of that in the past. 01:05:40
The agenda item, specifically Aaron. 01:05:44
What is it? What? I know it's about the park list, but what are we meeting to decide? 01:05:48
The recommended item as I see it and the the issue that we had removing item 9 from today's agenda was that we are. 01:05:53
Requesting that the CDC draft a letter. 01:06:01
That is in support of the parklets as they stand, grandfathering and current parklets under the as they stand with no. 01:06:04
Regulation from City Council going forward to remove them, however there will be oversight and etcetera. 01:06:11
Umm. 01:06:18
That the DC draft the letter saying that. 01:06:19
We as as the EDC and our mission to support business in this town is in support of continuing the parklet program as it stands. 01:06:22
And that letter would then go to City Council and they can. 01:06:30
Do with it what they what they wish, but I think that. 01:06:34
It's it's in our interest to have a letter. 01:06:37
From this board and. 01:06:40
Agreement. 01:06:42
That goes to City Council saying. 01:06:44
Before you guys vote on whatever you do. 01:06:46
Just know that on the economic development side we are in support of the parklets as they are. 01:06:49
That's. 01:06:55
My understanding of what the issue is, I think that that's. 01:06:56
Fair to say and. 01:06:59
That would that would be the thing that we're doing. So that the thing that we're doing is that we want a special meeting with the 01:07:01
agenda item that we want to have that letter. 01:07:05
And. 01:07:09
Then getting that drafted and if I could just jump in again, I just would caution the the Commission from entering into discussion 01:07:10
in the Commissioner, has answered the other Commissioners question about what he's proposing. 01:07:15
We're talking about potentially having a special meeting. This is not the time to talk about the merits of that item. That would 01:07:21
be at the special meeting. 01:07:24
Yeah, I'm just trying to understand. So I'm, I'm guessing then whatever the wording is. 01:07:27
I will see it. 01:07:33
When it's published to the public. 01:07:34
Just like everybody else does. 01:07:38
OK. So then there could I could so we were suggesting. 01:07:43
I'm not discussing the merits. 01:07:50
Of this. 01:07:52
But the wording? 01:07:54
Of what is on the agenda. No, No. Yeah, it's not. That's not all that we're talking about is just the potential for future agenda 01:07:56
items. Has been a suggestion for a special meeting to cover a topic. I think the question has been answered. 01:08:01
You know, it sounds like this commissioner next to you is going to prepare an agenda report, so that's his to do alone. 01:08:08
He's not collaborating with anybody. He's not taking input right now because you're all going to talk about this potentially if 01:08:15
the chair decides to have a special meeting with this item on it next week. 01:08:19
Does that make sense? 01:08:27
I understand what you're saying. 01:08:29
OK. 01:08:32
Can I ask a clarifying question just? 01:08:33
I just want to make sure I'm under. 01:08:38
Standing cause right now I'm not understanding. 01:08:40
A few months ago there was with the City Council. There was a the skate park agenda item and one of the council members was 01:08:42
removed from like the room during the discussion because he had a conflict of interest. 01:08:49
And they continued on after removing him, but our agenda item was just removed completely from the agenda. So I'm just curious 01:08:57
what the difference was. 01:09:01
Right. And so the sorry Commissioner Richmond through the VICE chair. 01:09:06
Because the agenda item was authored by the individual with the conflict, it was the City attorney's suggestion that it be pulled 01:09:11
from the agenda. It was his further suggestion that if there was interest in having this item, it could come from a different 01:09:17
commissioner, which is why we were having this last discussion. He wanted to make it clear that he. 01:09:24
Understood that there was a desire to talk about this topic, but this particular commissioner was unable to bring that forward. So 01:09:30
that's why he made that suggestion and he wanted to. He, before I came in here, he made it very clear that he wanted to provide 01:09:35
you with a route to go. We didn't want to be. 01:09:39
Only the better. Bad news. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. So in our special meeting, then, would Liz be asked to leave 01:09:44
the room? 01:09:48
That's a great question. I think that she could be present, but she wouldn't be able to participate or or or vote on it. Well, 01:09:54
could I make a comment because like all of you, I did my ethics training before coming here and before I put the agenda item 01:09:59
forward, I. 01:10:05
Seriously considered my position because I knew I would be under scrutiny. So I looked back at my ethics training and the attorney 01:10:11
who. 01:10:15
Trained us, said It's very important that we make a distinction between. 01:10:20
Actions that benefit. 01:10:25
Only one, Commissioner. 01:10:27
And give personal benefit to that person versus. 01:10:29
Actions which may confer personal benefit to that. 01:10:33
Commissioner, but are for the common good. 01:10:36
And the example in our training, and you were with me, Commissioner Gibbs, was Rd. improvement. So it's OK for a Commissioner to 01:10:39
propose Rd. improvement. 01:10:44
For a street where they might have a business or a residence. 01:10:50
Because it's not just for their personal benefit, it's for the benefit of everyone on the street. So considering that training, I 01:10:53
felt unassailable in my position that it was OK to present this agenda item, and I did query. 01:11:00
The the city attorney just said, you know, hey, I. 01:11:07
Thought that that was OK. Could you please clarify that for me? I haven't heard back, so I don't know. I I would say kind of watch 01:11:12
this space because it does seem to be a little bit more complicated than. 01:11:16
Street. 01:11:23
Black and white things so but I'm. 01:11:24
I'm. 01:11:27
Here to comply with every requirement and I'm waiting to hear from the attorney so. 01:11:28
I'm anyway. 01:11:34
Yes, please. I am just hoping because I I believe our grant program that we put back a month, I think we're all done with that 01:11:37
with the new people that applied. So I was just hoping that. 01:11:44
Us figuring out the subcommittee, we're getting back together by the next meeting and making sure an agenda item is added for us 01:11:51
to talk about that. 01:11:55
And I have to talk to Eric and he was the other person. I'll give him a call and get his input on that and we can do the same 01:12:01
thing. 01:12:05
OHK OK short meeting, long list for next time. So yes, Robin, you're referring to? 01:12:09
Training and I know I I think this is my third meeting. I. 01:12:16
Welcome that. How do I do that? 01:12:20
You. I'm sorry, Commissioner, you need, you need the training, the ethics training. 01:12:23
Well. 01:12:26
We had talked about setting aside some time to train this Commission. 01:12:27
And we've never addressed just just general board and Commission training. I don't know what was intended. 01:12:31
But we talked, somebody talked about. So there's two separate things. Yeah. One is the ethics training is a requirement for your 01:12:37
tenure as commissioner. So you need to present your certificate to the course, present your certificate to the city. They need to 01:12:43
hold that. Then the the second thing is just that because we have so many new and enthusiastic. 01:12:49
Commissioners, this year we thought it would be a great idea because it's a very formal meeting when we meet like this and it's 01:12:55
hard to jump in and ask clarification questions and things that would be useful for. 01:13:01
New people, so, so. 01:13:07
Chairman Upman. 01:13:10
Thought it would be just a bonus for everybody to have that meeting. Unfortunately his time constraints have been such that it's 01:13:12
been pushed but like it was supposed to be today, but it's not. So he, you know, if we all gently remind him that we really would 01:13:19
love to do that, I'm sure that he will get that done. Well, that's my job I guess I'm. 01:13:25
Passing on this message. 01:13:32
So somebody will tell me how to get the certificate or the training? 01:13:36
A Sandra? Yeah. Can I have the city clerk follow up with you? You can take it online. Thank you. 01:13:41
Perfect. 01:13:45
OK, umm, lots of. 01:13:49
Great ideas for next time, Commissioner Gibbs. 01:13:51
4. 01:13:55
I did gently remind the chairman that today was the workshop training. 01:13:57
And so I had suggested since this is for new agenda items. 01:14:03
To previous meetings, the same agenda items and. 01:14:09
His response was we'll have the workshop first. 01:14:12
And then we can consider these items so. 01:14:14
And these come from having gotten out in town and working and talking to a number of businesses and. 01:14:18
Pacific Grove. 01:14:25
And the idea is I can link them back. I have them written down specifically, but. 01:14:26
One interesting one. Three people mentioned that they have. 01:14:32
Ohh situations where they were leasing their space right and there was some code issue or there was a pipe break. 01:14:38
And the tenant was not necessarily responsible the. 01:14:45
Person that owned the building. 01:14:49
And months went by before they could get. 01:14:51
This thing fixed in the city was, you know? 01:14:54
Asking them to get fixed in the. 01:14:58
Person renting the space was in the middle and I've heard this from two or three different people on various issues. 01:15:00
They don't know the building. 01:15:06
The owner is not fixing the problem, the cities holding the person renting the building responsible. 01:15:08
Ask you then. 01:15:14
And. 01:15:16
For my task here I'm going to present to. 01:15:16
Chairman Upman, a proposed agenda item to talk about feedback that you've had about certain difficulties that are presented to 01:15:21
local businesses here in Pacific Corp and you would like to propose this as something that we could help with, Is that right? 01:15:29
Yeah, I have a specific. 01:15:37
Suggestion that there's a concept in some cities called an ombudsman. 01:15:38
And it's a third party, not connected either to the city, nor to the, you know, developer or the. 01:15:43
Commercial Property Group and they get involved to. 01:15:49
Mediate, I guess disputes in a fashion. 01:15:53
That is quicker. 01:15:56
And in some cities this is sponsored. Bombardment is sponsored by the city. 01:15:57
Right. And they helped facilitate the OK without. Without giving the game away. Yeah. But can I just say we're going to talk about 01:16:02
the topic of a of an ombudsman. Ombudsman. Just to not have a discussion to mediate. Yeah, OK, perfect. Disputes and agreements 01:16:09
between small businesses and other people, primarily the city, over code issues. 01:16:16
So that's one agenda item, but the one that I had mentioned twice previously is I would call it a specific group, small business 01:16:24
accelerator. So that would be the agenda item. 01:16:29
Small business accelerator. 01:16:34
And. 01:16:37
Many small businesses I've mentioned, probably inappropriately earlier, have. 01:16:38
Maxed out their credit cards, taking small business loans to cover rent during the COVID time. Manage inventories. 01:16:43
And now they find themselves in a perilous situation. Their credit cards are maxed out and. 01:16:50
Okay again. Could I stop business details and we'll just. 01:16:56
Let's just have, yeah, Small Business Accelerator to. 01:17:00
Enhance cash flow, limit costs and. 01:17:05
Increase foot traffic. 01:17:08
Thank you, Commissioner Gibbs. 01:17:10
OK, so. 01:17:12
Umm. 01:17:14
May I just check around Robin again? Any other questions? 01:17:16
Perfect. OK. Thank you, everyone. 01:17:21
Umm. 01:17:24
I'll adjourn the meeting at looks like it's 5. 01:17:25
17 or 18 or something 5 Let's say 517. 01:17:29
And umm. 01:17:33
Our next? 01:17:36
Meeting of the DC will be on the regular. Meeting will be on July the 6th, 2023 at 4:00 PM. 01:17:38
And watch your inboxes regarding a possible special meeting. 01:17:45
Thank you. 01:17:50
Link
Start video at
Social
Embed

* you need to log in to manage your favorites

My Favorites List
You haven't added any favorites yet. Click the "Add Favorite" button on any media page, and they'll show up here.
I don't think it's. 00:00:29
It's not. 00:00:30
Notice. 00:00:31
Go ahead. Thank you. 00:00:32
So a quick reminder to everybody that if you make a motion or second it. 00:00:34
Please state your name for the records. 00:00:40
OK. 00:00:42
Umm. 00:00:44
So we need to take role. 00:00:46
Ben, are you? 00:00:49
Yes, Madam Vice Chair, I can, I can do that. Sorry, I was just give me one moment. I was going to get my timer. Are you able to 00:00:52
use the timer on here today? 00:00:56
OK, now I don't need to do that. Sorry, we're. 00:01:00
Making sure we have all of our priorities down here. 00:01:03
A Commissioner of Annuity. 00:01:06
Commissioner Richmond. 00:01:09
Here. 00:01:11
Vice Chair Jacobs here. 00:01:11
Commissioner Markowitz here. 00:01:13
Commissioner Hoops here. 00:01:15
Commissioner Gibbs. 00:01:18
Present. 00:01:19
And Secretary McMurdo is absent today. 00:01:20
So all present with the exception of the secretaries. 00:01:26
Great. OK. So the agenda and supporting documents in the packet or circulated in advance of today's meeting. 00:01:31
And are available for download on the CDC page of the city website, thecityofpacificgrove.org. 00:01:37
Are there any questions on order of agenda items from Commissioners? 00:01:44
Madam Chair, actually are you on the approval of the agenda section? 00:01:50
Yes, I am great. I have an announcement I'd like to make if that's acceptable please. OK, thank you. The city attorney has advised 00:01:54
me that we need to pull. 00:01:59
Item 9 from today's agenda. 00:02:04
That is because the author. 00:02:09
Has a conflict and so that item will not be heard today. 00:02:12
However, the city attorney wanted to also advise that any. 00:02:15
Member of the Commission, who does not have a conflict. 00:02:19
May bring back. 00:02:23
An item like this at a future EDC meeting, but just that it will not be heard today. 00:02:25
Thank you. Thank you. 00:02:30
Are there any questions on the agenda from Commissioners? 00:02:33
OK. Is there a motion to approve the agenda as presented with the attorneys? 00:02:40
Amendment. 00:02:48
I approve it. 00:02:52
Kelsey Richmond. 00:02:53
Is my name OK? Thank you. Thank you. So we have a motion. Do we have a second? 00:02:55
Thank you. 00:03:01
OK, so the motion. 00:03:02
Umm. 00:03:05
I guess we need roll call please. 00:03:07
Sorry have to take that, Commissioner Venuti. 00:03:12
Aye. 00:03:15
Mr. Richmond. 00:03:16
Aye. 00:03:17
Vice Chair Jacobs, Commissioner Markowitz. 00:03:18
Commissioner Hoops, aye. 00:03:21
Commissioner Gibbs. 00:03:23
Motion passes 601. 00:03:25
Sorry 60, she's a non voting member and she's absent today. Thank you. Well and Eric's absent. Ohh, I'm sorry, forgive me. We also 00:03:28
the chair. So we actually the last vote and this vote both should reflect. 00:03:34
To being absent. 00:03:40
To being absent for the roll call. 00:03:41
One being absent for the approval of the minutes because the Secretary is a non voting member. 00:03:43
Thank you for that correction. 00:03:49
Great. Thank you, everyone. 00:03:51
Onto Commission and staff announcements of city related items, are there any announcements from the commissioners present or from 00:03:53
the city staff? 00:03:58
Commissioner Gibbs, I don't have a formal announcement, but. 00:04:05
The. 00:04:09
You know, I have asked several times if we could have and this agenda is a good example. I think we had time to put this in here. 00:04:11
If we could talk a little bit more about strategy and tactics for small businesses, any business in Pacific Grove, point of order. 00:04:17
Could I ask you to bring this up in the last agenda item because I believe this is really just for things happening around town 00:04:24
that we want to call attention to. So and and the last agenda item is perfect for this topic. What's the last agenda item? It's 00:04:30
what future? 00:04:36
And items would you like to gotcha. Well, what I was gonna say if I could say I wasn't actually suggesting agenda item I was gonna 00:04:42
say that I did get out. 00:04:45
And talk to people in the business community and was finding out what they were concerned about. 00:04:49
And I think the person that was going to be on the agenda for today. 00:04:54
Yeah, Yvonne Battistini from carried away, right? And she was not aware that she was on the agenda for today. 00:05:00
So. 00:05:06
OK, maybe that should be the announcement, but I did have a chance to talk to her and I wanted to just bring that forward since 00:05:07
she may not be here. 00:05:10
But there are issues that she deals with and a lot of business owners deal with every day. 00:05:13
Having to do with cash flow, reducing expenses. 00:05:18
And they're they're basically still paying their bills from COVID, right? They're paying their rent. They're paying inventory 00:05:21
costs. 00:05:24
And they're they're fairly significantly in debt and I've talked to four or five business owners if there was something the. 00:05:27
EDC could do, and I'll save it for the last agenda item, but. 00:05:33
It would be nice to spend time talking about those kind of things. 00:05:36
On the agenda, I believe now we have to wait until July to really consider something like that. So that's my only comment. 00:05:39
I appreciate that and I would say can we make use of submitting. 00:05:46
Documents that at least we can communicate through that so to not waste time. 00:05:51
Umm. 00:05:57
Yes, I just want to notify everyone that Captain and Stoker is having a. 00:05:58
What used to be called a block party, but now it's more of a festival July 22nd that is just filled with about 70 to 80 local 00:06:04
vendors. 00:06:09
We have about 15 food vendors. 00:06:14
We have about 5 musical like live acts going on, so it's just. 00:06:17
A full day 10:00 AM to 7:00 PM I'm just. 00:06:22
All local, everything. And it's basically just to celebrate the community that we've created. So I just want to invite everyone 00:06:26
out that day, July 22nd, 10:00 AM to 7:00 PM. 00:06:31
Thank you. You're doing it at your PG location. No, it's Ohh. Yep, good call my location. 00:06:36
It's actually at in Monterey inside Jacks Park during that day. So both locations will still be open for service, but during the 00:06:42
day, 10 AM, 7:00 PM Jacks Park, we have a event going on. 00:06:48
Thank you. 00:06:54
Yeah, that sounds really special. Thanks. 00:06:57
Umm. 00:06:59
Umm. 00:07:01
I have. 00:07:02
A couple of announcements actually. The Business Improvement District is having Small Business Saturday on the 20. 00:07:03
4th of June so coming up soon and. 00:07:12
The. 00:07:17
Committee. 00:07:19
IS is starting the first inaugural Sidewalk Chalk Art competition on that day? 00:07:20
So it's there's been a huge amount of interest in that. I think it's going to be a really fun day and shops are doing specials on 00:07:26
that day, so it will be a. 00:07:30
We have a nice day to come and patronize local businesses and enjoy some of the antics of the chalk. It's called chalk the block. 00:07:35
Also there is a. 00:07:45
The Arts District has quarterly socials, so on June the 22nd there's going to be a an artistic social at Bradley Photographic 00:07:49
Gallery at 6:30 PM. 00:07:54
And everyone's invited. 00:08:01
I'll actually tell you a little bit more about that in the. 00:08:04
An agenda item below. 00:08:08
So any other announcements? 00:08:09
Seeing none. 00:08:14
Thank you. We'll go on to general public comment. 00:08:17
The sportsman, Madam, vice chair, there's the council liaison announcements. I do believe we have Council member Poduri here. 00:08:21
Virtually. There he is, there he is. 00:08:26
Thank you. 00:08:31
Thank you and thank you everyone. I don't have any announcements to make, but thanks. 00:08:33
Thank you. 00:08:41
Councilman Poduri So onto general public comment. 00:08:42
And this portion of the meeting is reserved for members of the public. 00:08:47
To address the Commission on any matter which is not on this agenda but is under the jurisdiction of the Commission. 00:08:51
Comments from the public are limited to 3 minutes and do not receive EDC action. 00:08:58
Comments regarding items on the regular agenda shall be heard prior to the EDC's consideration of such items. 00:09:03
At the time that those items are called. 00:09:09
Whenever possible, written correspondence should be submitted to the CDC in advance of the meeting to provide adequate time for 00:09:12
its consideration. 00:09:15
To those members of the public who have submitted comments via e-mail since our last meeting, we thank you. 00:09:19
And are there any members of the public who would like to make a comment at this time? 00:09:25
Yes. 00:09:32
Please come up and. 00:09:34
Make sure the mic is working and state your name please if you would. 00:09:36
Can't. 00:09:46
You have good right direction, but they're OK. 00:09:49
Give us one moment. 00:09:58
Let's do a test. 00:09:59
Can you do? 00:10:00
Hello, hello. There we go. Ohh, thank you. 00:10:01
I'm echoing, it's great. 00:10:03
Um. 00:10:05
I just want to say I'm I'm disappointed that the discussion of the letter of support for the current parklets was removed from the 00:10:06
agenda. 00:10:10
Because the commissioner put it on the agenda. Owns a restaurant with a parklet. 00:10:14
The parklets are a vital element of the continued economic development of our city. 00:10:18
And so it's well within the scope of this Commission. 00:10:23
When the Planning Commission released its report of the survey it had conducted among citizens and visitors related to the 00:10:26
parklets, I read through it and found many issues that indicated A bias against parklets in those who fielded the study. 00:10:32
A key person driving that study now is on the City Council and on the subcommittee, who has taken on revising the city staff 00:10:38
recommendations for a very reasonable parklet program. 00:10:43
Those recommendations found elements of truth within the survey results and ensured they were addressed, while at the same time 00:10:48
ensuring that the parklets continue to exist in a form that keeps them viable for the businesses. 00:10:53
That is what this Commission is all about and ensuring we have viable businesses that support a vibrant community. 00:10:59
That same council member showed at the City Council a video of water during a massive storm flooding the sidewalk in the parklet. 00:11:06
But failed to show video from the other streets, including in front of their own office, where the water flow was equally fierce. 00:11:12
Yet another example of bias and a hidden agenda against parklets that I honestly find mystifying. 00:11:18
The park that's are good for not only the restaurants but also the surrounding businesses because they encourage pedestrian 00:11:24
traffic. 00:11:27
And people walking by translate into some people walking in. 00:11:30
All of this is to say that the members of the subcommittee have a track record of opposing parklets as they are. 00:11:34
During the discussion on the ordinance in March, they were able to structure it such that the guidelines themselves are not in the 00:11:40
ordinance. 00:11:43
And thus can be changed by just a Council resolution without a second reading. 00:11:47
Having a clear statement from this Commission about the economic importance of the parklets, Parklets constructed in a way that 00:11:51
people would want to actually sit at on a chilly, foggy evening or a warm, sunny day with seagulls flying overhead. 00:11:57
Would have sent a powerful message to the whole of the Council, or at least those who have not been working to get rid of them. 00:12:04
Thank you. 00:12:10
Thank you. 00:12:21
Anyone else? 00:12:22
Hello. 00:12:24
I am Marie Adams Osuna, a resident of Pacific Grove. 00:12:27
I present these comments in interest of integrity and honesty in our city government. 00:12:31
I was quite taken aback by comments regarding the DUI Task Force at the last two meetings of this body. 00:12:37
I've attended every DI meeting this year. 00:12:43
And I have watched all of the videos of the past meetings. 00:12:46
In April, Commissioner Gives took umbrage at a comment by Commissioner Richmond. 00:12:50
That it is known to not support the DUI task force. 00:12:54
He demanded proof. 00:12:57
In fact, there are numerous letters to the editor of the Pacific Grove Press and the Carmel Pine Cone illustrating such. 00:12:59
These are in the public record and available online. 00:13:05
In May, Chairperson Upmin allowed Commissioner Gibbs to speak regarding the disagreement between the HE and Chairman Richmond. 00:13:08
Gibbs improperly and cynically used this time to falsely claim that he has supported DI initiatives, when in fact, quite the 00:13:15
opposite is true. 00:13:19
He, along with members from the PG Lives, used public comment to question DI Commissioners motives. 00:13:23
Claim ignorance of the meaning of an object to the use of the words diversity, equity, and inclusion. 00:13:29
Demand to be educated by the Commission. 00:13:36
And then got up and walked out of the meeting when such education was presented. 00:13:38
A direct quote from Mr. Gibbs at the February meeting. 00:13:43
Why does it have to be called diversity, equity and inclusion? A better name would be Dignified, Insight and Inspire. 00:13:46
A quote from another PG Lives member. The problem with inclusiveness is that it excludes somebody. 00:13:53
We as citizens have the right to speak our mind at public comment, just as I am doing now, but falsehoods by members of this body 00:14:01
and attacks on community members must not go unchallenged. 00:14:06
All public meeting references are recorded and can be found online. 00:14:12
The following comments are from PG resident Colleen Ingram, who had professional obligations today. 00:14:17
On the first day of Pride Month, I am sure that you are aware of the Anti LGBTQ Plus campaign against Target stores for their line 00:14:24
of merchandise celebrating Pride Month. 00:14:28
Staff were threatened with violence and Target made the decision to remove some of the merchandise too. So these attacks impacting 00:14:33
Targets brand as well as the LGBTQ plus community. 00:14:37
This anti LGBTQ plus national movement of hate and oppression affects businesses and people nationally and locally and uses 00:14:42
conservative Christian doctrine to justify their actions. 00:14:47
A very popular White Wing podcast host Matt Walsh has outlined and widely promoted how to organize these types of targeted attacks 00:14:53
toward woke businesses. 00:14:57
This is from an April tweet. Here's what we do pick a victim, gang up on it, and make an example of it. We can't boycott every 00:15:02
company, but we can pick one. Target it with ruthless boycott campaign, claim one scalp and move on to the next. This same target. 00:15:10
Tactic of targeted and relentless hounding is being used by a Commissioner Gibbs and his group PG lives against Tina Rao in an 00:15:18
effort to undermine her voice in this community. 00:15:22
The harassment has gone for on for the last year and now is being used. 00:15:27
Commissioner Gibbs is using his seat on the CDC to continue this harassment in the name of Christianity. 00:15:31
Kim's group, PPG Live, shares the white nationalist agenda. These are potentially dangerous tactics that hurt the businesses. 00:15:38
And individuals of our community, OK, I'm sorry. 00:15:44
I need to stop you there. 00:15:47
As you had two people presented in your thing, I was not sure but. 00:15:49
That is 3 minutes. Thank you. 00:15:55
Umm. 00:15:58
Do we have any other comments from the public? 00:16:00
We have a virtual Comm. 00:16:04
Ohh, thank you. 00:16:06
How inga? 00:16:09
Lorenzen domado speak. 00:16:11
Thank you, Earl. 00:16:14
I just kind of wanted to make a comment about I did jot you off a quick. 00:16:17
Letter before this meeting. And it's not just the Brown Act that governs this Commission or any Commission or task force or 00:16:23
anything else. It is the fair political practices too. 00:16:29
And it is. 00:16:36
You know, code of conduct, ethics, it's all things that. 00:16:38
Yes, as Commissioners and because you are and you accepted the position on the board. 00:16:42
You are held to different standards and they are very important. 00:16:50
Believe me, I choose to remain an outspoken member of the public. 00:16:56
And as far as the park, let's go. 00:17:02
The subcommittees working on them and the main thing has to do with traffic and safety. 00:17:05
Let the subcommittee do the job that Council directed them to do. 00:17:12
Yes, the Planning Commission has weighed in. 00:17:18
The city has weighed in as far as I'm calling the city meeting staff. 00:17:21
They have presented you, yes, you have your own preferences. Let this all play out as how it should be, and traffic and safety are 00:17:26
more important than anything else. And I'm sure the business community will be satisfied with it in the end. I mean. 00:17:36
They aren't going away. 00:17:47
You've got yours. 00:17:49
You know extended for the next year, you only have licenses for a year. So it's just let it play out, let the let the process play 00:17:51
out and traffic and safety are going to be. 00:17:57
Paramount. 00:18:04
Thank you very much. 00:18:05
Thank you. 00:18:08
And. 00:18:12
Yeah. 00:18:15
Sorry if I said that. 00:18:18
Hello, can you hear me? 00:18:21
Yes, we can hear you. 00:18:24
Oh. 00:18:26
Sorry, I'm using my friend's computer. So this is Jordan Champagne with Happy Girl Kitchen. Hello everyone. 00:18:26
And. 00:18:34
I'm just calling in also. 00:18:36
Just since this is the Economic development meeting, I just wanted to also add. 00:18:40
That I agree that the parklet issue is definitely part of the economic development. 00:18:45
And I'm really grateful for everyone that's been working really hard on this. 00:18:51
Including the city staff and. 00:18:56
I just feel like as a business owner that has a parklet, I just want to express. 00:18:59
Again, how important. 00:19:04
I think they are two Pacific Grove. 00:19:07
In general, and the success of our small little sleepy town. 00:19:09
Umm, And. 00:19:15
I also just want to mention that I did have dinner with the city planner of Half Moon Bay and he really told me how his city and. 00:19:17
The Coastal Commission have worked together. 00:19:27
To continue their parklet program. 00:19:30
Umm. 00:19:33
Indefinitely and so I just think that's a great example of. 00:19:34
The city planners really caring about the economic impact on the small businesses that these parklets have. 00:19:39
And. 00:19:46
They are also very much affected by the Coastal Commission. 00:19:47
There in Half Moon Bay and also I really appreciate how Ingham mentioned that safety is of concern and it definitely is. 00:19:51
And I know that city staff has really made that their priority. 00:20:00
I've had my parklet for seven years now and it's only increased. 00:20:05
The safety of my very dangerous corner that I'm on because it's really slowed down traffic. 00:20:10
And also the other person mentioned that it's increased the pedestrian traffic. 00:20:18
Which always increases safety and then also the economic. 00:20:23
Inspiration for any block to have people walking around. 00:20:28
Which we're over on Central. We don't have a lot of people walking around over here. 00:20:32
So I'm really grateful that the parklets have increased the safety. 00:20:37
Of our area and an economic boom. 00:20:41
So, OK, thanks. I just wanted to mention that. Have a wonderful evening. 00:20:44
Thank you. 00:20:50
I see no other hands raised. 00:20:54
I see a hand raised now. 00:20:58
Ohh, that's going away now, OK? 00:21:01
Great. OK. Seeing no more comments. 00:21:04
We move on to. 00:21:09
Yeah. 00:21:19
Find. 00:21:20
Umm. 00:21:23
I would be appropriate to move to #4 or excuse me, Section 5, which is the approval of the Minutes. 00:21:25
That's what I was looking for 23. Thank you. Yeah. 00:21:30
So we have the minutes from the May meeting of the CDC. They were distributed in advance and are included in the agenda packet 00:21:33
available to download. 00:21:37
On the CDC page of the city website. 00:21:41
Are there any questions on the Minutes from the public? 00:21:44
Seeing none, are there any questions on the minutes from commissioners? 00:21:52
Yes. 00:21:58
I think. 00:21:59
I I find it hard to get any substance out of the minutes because there's no detail. 00:22:00
There's no detail. There's no no documentation of a conversation or thought. 00:22:05
Case in point, was the discussion last. 00:22:11
Time about the Chamber potentially doing the digital gift cards. 00:22:15
It's not in here. 00:22:19
And I'm told that it's only those things that are up for vote and one can look at the video. 00:22:21
I think it would be helpful and. 00:22:27
More easily. 00:22:30
Read. 00:22:31
In print. 00:22:32
Just. 00:22:34
One line that says you know so and so said. 00:22:35
So we haven't. 00:22:39
On record. 00:22:40
Yeah, good point. 00:22:41
Mr. If I can jump in, really, please. It's the city's policy, and it's established through the City Clerk that we take action 00:22:44
minutes. 00:22:47
Actually, Minutes only reflect the actions taken. 00:22:50
And we have some very, very lengthy discussions. 00:22:53
And what often has happened in the past when not having action minutes is. 00:22:56
They'll be verbatim transcripts and somebody comes back and says, well, this isn't what I said, I said this, I said that and and 00:23:01
so on and so forth. So that's why we have the video. 00:23:05
People can just go back and actually watch what took place. 00:23:09
Determine for themselves what happened, and the minutes are really just only for recording the actions. 00:23:12
Action is. 00:23:18
And it transpires down percolates down to the boards and commissions because they're under the. 00:23:19
Council, which also has action minutes. So does this. So, for instance, does the City Council actually look at this video? 00:23:23
Did they know what we're doing? 00:23:30
They, they, they have. Certainly in the past, I know that I've had to review past videos. I know members of the public review. The 00:23:32
videos are all on the city's website and you can see the agenda, you can see the minutes and you can see the the video all 00:23:38
together. And it's very common that I have members of the public who've viewed something that have a question or. 00:23:44
Council member follows up on something or or a board member. So yes, very, very common. 00:23:51
OK. 00:23:55
So is there a reason that the Chamber? 00:23:57
Discussion was not included. 00:23:59
So again the the minutes only reflect the actions taken. 00:24:01
So each agenda report. 00:24:05
As an action. 00:24:07
And that's recorded and what's not recorded in the minutes is the discussion. 00:24:08
If you want to view the discussion, that's where you can go back to the video. So Jenny was asked to go back to her board and she 00:24:13
agreed to do that. 00:24:16
Where do we have follow up in these Minutes? 00:24:20
So that wasn't a formal and I think if you're if I recall what you're talking about. 00:24:23
There was some discussion on an item and it was suggested that she go back to her board. It wasn't actually official 00:24:29
recommendation from the EDC. I don't think that there was a motion. 00:24:33
Maybe I'm incorrect about that. If there was a motion, it would have been reflected, reflected in the action. If it was just in 00:24:37
the commissioner discussion and there was a suggestion and she nodded her head. 00:24:42
And said OK that you know she she elected to pursue that as an action item, but. 00:24:46
There wasn't actually a motion. It's not going to be reflected. 00:24:52
In the action minutes. OK, so next time I need to make a motion. 00:24:56
Well, and you have to have a motion this germane to what you're of course what's being discussed obviously and you have to have a 00:25:00
second on the motion and you have to have the board. 00:25:04
Approve it. I understand. 00:25:09
And actually just. 00:25:12
As a thought, the last agenda item is to suggest things for future agendas, and you could suggest something at that point. OK, 00:25:13
perfect. Thank you. 00:25:18
Thanks for the clarification. 00:25:22
OK. 00:25:24
So is there a motion to approve the minutes as presented? 00:25:26
I mean, we. 00:25:30
Thank you, Commissioner, Thank you, Commissioner Hoops. 00:25:32
OK, so. 00:25:37
Would you do roll call, please? Absolutely, Commissioner Venuti. 00:25:39
Mr. Richmond. 00:25:43
Aye, Vice Chair Jacobs. Commissioner Markowitz. Sorry, Commissioner Hoops. 00:25:44
Mr. Gibbs, yes. 00:25:49
Motion passes 61 Chair upland absent. 00:25:50
Thank you. 00:25:56
So. 00:25:58
We. 00:26:00
Would ideally have moved on to talking to Yvonne Battistini, but I understand that that is not. 00:26:01
That's. 00:26:08
Disappeared from our agenda for today. 00:26:09
Correct, Vice Chair. That is on the agenda. I will tell you that normally we rely upon all the work that. 00:26:11
Secretary Macmurdo does to line that up. She's unfortunately out of town. I think it just in all the preparations for her being 00:26:19
out of town and. 00:26:22
This meeting date changing, somehow that got lost unfortunately. 00:26:26
But I will certainly follow up with the Secretary and I'll we'll line that up for the next meeting to be on there. Sure. Because 00:26:30
now that we have our new time, it would be lovely to continue some of these enriching interviews that we do with local businesses. 00:26:35
So that would be great. Thank you. 00:26:40
So we have a. 00:26:46
Miraculously short meeting today. 00:26:48
So. 00:26:50
Let's see. We now move on to. 00:26:53
The Arts District update. 00:26:58
Which is? 00:27:02
Um, which is? 00:27:03
My agenda item. 00:27:05
So. 00:27:07
Umm. 00:27:08
The last time that I spoke with you about the Arts District was in February. 00:27:10
And. 00:27:15
We were interested in a couple of. 00:27:18
Major priorities at that time one is creating. 00:27:21
A. 00:27:25
You know long term relationships in the city of amongst artists and businesses to. 00:27:26
Have collaboration and we were also interested in a model that would work for us to achieve this this goal. 00:27:34
So the strategy that we settled on. 00:27:41
For for trying to do this, it was to have a community meeting. 00:27:44
And we did that in March. Many of you were actually at our meeting. 00:27:49
And. 00:27:54
And I I just want to say that really, I'm here to report that the Arts District, though it's clearly in its baby steps. 00:27:55
Phase is already contributing to the vibrance and the health of Pacific Grove. And not only that, but we. 00:28:02
Really unexpectedly discovered that. 00:28:09
Yeah, well, the well. 00:28:13
We were hoping all along, but when parts of the community come together and work together. 00:28:15
A lot of potential is unleashed and it's been, you know, a. 00:28:21
A great process so far, even though it's just really we're still creating infrastructure. 00:28:25
We've been stunned at what can be accomplished so. 00:28:31
The community meeting was a really energetic and enthusiastic gathering of many different groups. 00:28:35
We elicited goals, we brainstormed ideas, we gathered feedback, and we tabulated everything into a spreadsheet. 00:28:42
And I won't tell you all, I just want to keep this short actually. But we we found that public art is the priority many people 00:28:48
mention. That is something that they would aspire to in our town. 00:28:55
Second priority is collaboration. 00:29:04
So. 00:29:06
That was. 00:29:08
Really interesting. We also found something unexpected though. We have a very large number of language arts creatives in Pacific 00:29:09
Grove. 00:29:12
Umm. 00:29:16
Lots of publishers, poets, writers. 00:29:17
Literary agents. 00:29:20
A lot of you know founders of of. 00:29:24
Printing presses and and and arts festivals for language arts. 00:29:27
Um, the other thing we found is that there's a great. 00:29:31
Clamor for venues. People would like venues. 00:29:34
And. 00:29:37
They're very expensive. It's one of the hardest things when organizing arts events. 00:29:38
And so we understand that one of our roles in the future will be to either provide subsidies or. 00:29:43
Broker some low cost venues for arts events. 00:29:51
Umm. 00:29:55
And umm. 00:29:56
Just looking at the affordability of producing events. 00:29:59
Um. 00:30:03
An idea that was first shared at that meeting was to have a sidewalk chalk art festival. So when the BID was trying to brainstorm 00:30:04
some activities to give pizzazz to the Small Business Saturday. 00:30:10
That idea was mentioned and it was incorporated. So this is exactly an example of what we wanted to do. 00:30:16
Have collaboration across different groups and individuals in the city because by working together we are unleashing the potential 00:30:23
of this event to draw people to Pacific Grove, to get young people and artists working together, and to have some civic fun. And 00:30:28
so far the response has been. 00:30:33
Amazing. Really enthusiastic Some. 00:30:38
Local people have donated sets of chalk and books on how to do chalk art to schools and the there's a great there was a great 00:30:42
response from the local schools. 00:30:48
Umm. 00:30:55
To talk about some of the jobs that we've got done, we've published a website. We are working on an integrated calendar for events 00:30:56
there. We've created an Instagram account which we're using to support local businesses and repost any arts centric news from 00:31:02
Pacific Grove businesses and nonprofits. 00:31:07
We're in the final stage of preparing the discovery map of art centric businesses for print. 00:31:14
We have a newsletter list of about 300 people. 00:31:20
We've sent one e-mail so far the name of the e-mail of the newsletter is Verve. 00:31:23