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That's why they were weird. I was stuck in, stuck in a waiting room, looked like. | 00:00:06 | |
OK, so. | 00:00:11 | |
That's the whole call then. | 00:00:13 | |
Matt Bosworth. | 00:00:15 | |
I'm here. | 00:00:17 | |
It's in Bradley. | 00:00:19 | |
Yeah, yeah. | 00:00:20 | |
Loftus here and Liz Jacobs is also here. | 00:00:22 | |
So we have 4-4 board members, so let us. | 00:00:26 | |
Begin the meeting. | 00:00:34 | |
At the time. | 00:00:35 | |
830-6836. | 00:00:38 | |
Thank you. Can I just ask? | 00:00:40 | |
I don't remember the status of. | 00:00:44 | |
Do you have an extra edge? | 00:00:50 | |
Because I didn't know this. OK, I've got her on the phone, but I think. | 00:00:54 | |
Yeah, two weeks. | 00:01:02 | |
OK. I'll give you hers. OK. Sounds good. There we go. I'll take it back. | 00:01:05 | |
Absolutely. OK. | 00:01:11 | |
Right. | 00:01:13 | |
Just a just a question. | 00:01:16 | |
We had talked about extending this to be an hour long meeting instead of 45 minutes. Can I just ask, do you know if there has been | 00:01:19 | |
any change on that? | 00:01:22 | |
I'll just move that forward. OK. So welcome everybody. | 00:01:28 | |
I'd like to invite any public comments that on the items that are not on the agenda. Is there anyone? | 00:01:33 | |
Online, our note of thanks. | 00:01:42 | |
Seeing none, let's move on to. | 00:01:45 | |
Item number four on the agenda, which is the. | 00:01:48 | |
20/23/24. | 00:01:52 | |
Budget reports. | 00:01:55 | |
Well, budget here, so. | 00:01:58 | |
I did get a report from Jenny which. | 00:02:01 | |
You know the annual reports. | 00:02:07 | |
Year. | 00:02:09 | |
This just came in. | 00:02:12 | |
On the notes to me, so apologies. | 00:02:15 | |
It's. | 00:02:18 | |
I don't know that we're going to be able to do anything about that because none of us have it. | 00:02:23 | |
Exactly. I think I would move. | 00:02:27 | |
That we push this to the next. | 00:02:30 | |
Meeting because this has a lot of detail in it and I think that everyone's going to want to look at it. Sure, it's got numbers | 00:02:33 | |
and. | 00:02:36 | |
It's just 2 1/2 pages, I think quite easily read it, but I feel like you'd want to read it yourselves. So anyone wanna second | 00:02:41 | |
promotion? | 00:02:45 | |
I'll second. | 00:02:50 | |
OK then. | 00:02:52 | |
Let's vote. | 00:02:54 | |
So we're voting to move the budget report to the August meeting, OK? | 00:02:57 | |
Mats. | 00:03:03 | |
Aye. | 00:03:05 | |
Jason. | 00:03:07 | |
Aye. | 00:03:08 | |
Aye, I vote as well to move it to the next one, OK? | 00:03:10 | |
So let's move on to item number 5, approving the funding request for youth ambassadors. We had the presentation last week. | 00:03:16 | |
And I really. | 00:03:24 | |
Felt like we all wanted to support them. Yes, and we. | 00:03:27 | |
Basically agreed to do that at this meeting, so. | 00:03:31 | |
I don't have the details of me. Do you remember what the amount was? I think we wanted. | 00:03:35 | |
Is it something like three? I think it was like 2500 or something in that it was an amount that seems. | 00:03:44 | |
And Jenny said we had. | 00:03:51 | |
We have the the budget, the budget for it exactly. OK, so would can I just check? Would anyone like further discussion on this or | 00:03:53 | |
further information, or do you remember well enough from last time to be able to vote to support this? | 00:04:00 | |
Any comments from? | 00:04:11 | |
The board. | 00:04:13 | |
What was the dollar amount again? | 00:04:16 | |
Yeah, we think it was like 2 1/2 or $3000. | 00:04:19 | |
And Jenny had said that we have the budget for it. | 00:04:25 | |
I'm so sorry if I had known that I was. | 00:04:29 | |
Leaving the meeting. | 00:04:31 | |
He would have done more homework on this. So yes, Steve Thomas. | 00:04:34 | |
I was just going to say for for those newer members in the past, I believe it was 2500. I could be wrong, but. | 00:04:39 | |
This was also money that in the past had been allocated to the. | 00:04:47 | |
Feast of Lanterns as one of the sponsors of the fireworks or of the actual pageant. And so. | 00:04:52 | |
While it is a different request, Matt, from an accounting standpoint, it's not something that. | 00:05:00 | |
Is out of the ordinary and I just wanted to provide that background. | 00:05:07 | |
Thank you. | 00:05:10 | |
Thank you. | 00:05:12 | |
Thank you, Steve. | 00:05:14 | |
Well, I would move to approve that. | 00:05:17 | |
That expense. | 00:05:21 | |
Yeah. | 00:05:22 | |
OK. Let me hold that for just one second and let me ask Laurie, do we have minutes from the meetings now? | 00:05:24 | |
Let me ask Jenny so because I'm sure it might not even be in the next. | 00:05:32 | |
I just feel like the responsible thing is to know the amount that let me. I'm texting Jack, Jenny. OK, perfect. | 00:05:38 | |
OK, so. | 00:05:45 | |
Whilst. | 00:05:46 | |
I'm sorry, it's just a little thing and I'm sure it's fine, but I would really like to get the dollar amount, I mean. | 00:05:48 | |
If if possible, OK. | 00:05:54 | |
I'm just looking through this to see if there's anything. | 00:05:57 | |
Maybe we move on to item 6 while we wait to hear from Jenny. | 00:06:03 | |
Yeah. | 00:06:11 | |
Or we could just say an amount. We could say 2500 if you want to. | 00:06:13 | |
Is that does that sound OK? | 00:06:23 | |
Certainly sounds in line. | 00:06:28 | |
I I just don't want to set a precedent. | 00:06:30 | |
You know if it's way higher than what we've donated before. | 00:06:33 | |
Anyone like to make a motion to approve 2500? | 00:06:38 | |
I like to wait to hear from Jenny. | 00:06:45 | |
OK. Then let us move on to the Chocolate Block event. So is there any way, Steve, that you can show this is a really attractive | 00:06:50 | |
PowerPoint? I I just saw it in the. | 00:06:56 | |
Yeah, hang on for just a second. | 00:07:06 | |
I've I had said this to Jenny and I didn't realize she wasn't going to be there. I've got a doctor's appointment at 9:15, So what | 00:07:10 | |
I'm going to do is very quickly hop on to. | 00:07:15 | |
My computer, because I actually happen to be and I'm going to, I'm going to join the meeting via my computer. | 00:07:21 | |
And that I can share the. | 00:07:29 | |
The PowerPoint, so just bear with me for just a a quick moment. | 00:07:32 | |
I. | 00:07:38 | |
Let's see here just trying to open the. | 00:07:39 | |
OK, while you're getting that ready, I just would love to say something that it was a very beautiful event and. | 00:07:44 | |
Yeah, I think everyone who's. | 00:07:52 | |
Who attended really enjoyed it and. | 00:07:54 | |
I'll just say that. | 00:07:57 | |
I put some I took a lot of photographs and I put some on the Pacific Grove Arts District Instagram. | 00:07:59 | |
And on next door because it's a. | 00:08:08 | |
Yeah, I advertised the event on there, so there's a lot of interest. So I put the photos on and I think it was 4 posts that I did | 00:08:12 | |
of 10 photos each. | 00:08:16 | |
This is the maximum you can upload this 10 and. | 00:08:21 | |
I don't know. I just had so many lights and comments and then next door gave me a badge for the most popular. | 00:08:25 | |
The month or something and. | 00:08:34 | |
Anyway, so it was it was received really well and. | 00:08:38 | |
You know. | 00:08:42 | |
I think we've. | 00:08:44 | |
You stumbled onto something. Really. Really. | 00:08:45 | |
Important for the future, for generating. | 00:08:49 | |
Interest. I walked around in the shops as well and I found. | 00:08:52 | |
For example, Studio 171, she said it was the busiest day that she'd had, she thought all year and you know, there was. It did | 00:08:57 | |
bring in. | 00:09:01 | |
Well, you, what would you say, would you say that you had? Yeah, it was busy. I was outside. | 00:09:08 | |
For the event, which was really fun. | 00:09:13 | |
It was really well received and a lot of parents coming up. | 00:09:17 | |
Thanking us for putting it on a couple notes that I wrote down. | 00:09:22 | |
Next year. | 00:09:28 | |
Everybody wants. They're already a like when is it happening again? They're excited about it, which is fun. | 00:09:30 | |
We kind of. | 00:09:36 | |
Made a designated little doodle area for kids because a lot of kids were coming up. | 00:09:38 | |
With family, with their parents and seeing what other people were doing. And so, you know, we just had a box of chalk out there | 00:09:43 | |
and they were doodling all kinds of cute things on the sidewalk, which was fun. | 00:09:48 | |
Umm. | 00:09:54 | |
I think we all received the e-mail that Jenny sent from the. | 00:09:55 | |
Complaint from the resident of the Holman Building. | 00:09:59 | |
We didn't have a sound permit for the event, which was. | 00:10:03 | |
Not great. The police officer who came by was very nice. | 00:10:08 | |
And just had us. | 00:10:13 | |
You know, I had because it was pretty loud in the morning, so the the. | 00:10:14 | |
The police officer came by and just talked to the DJ and had him. | 00:10:19 | |
Um. | 00:10:24 | |
Turn down the sound a little bit, which was fine. | 00:10:26 | |
Umm. | 00:10:29 | |
We didn't have any prizes. | 00:10:31 | |
So I just ran. Liz was nice enough to donate a gift certificate, and then I ran a bunch of gift certificates so that we could give | 00:10:34 | |
something to each of the winners. | 00:10:38 | |
So next year, I think we just need to. | 00:10:43 | |
Be a little bit more proactive about that, but they were delighted and we had certificates for all the winners. | 00:10:48 | |
Umm. | 00:10:55 | |
And you know, other than that we had a lot of extra chalk, which was good. We're storing it. So we have a good start for next | 00:10:57 | |
year. | 00:11:00 | |
But it seemed like a lot of people brought their own non-toxic chalk to to. | 00:11:05 | |
To use. | 00:11:09 | |
So I can, I can run through this real quick. A lot of what Stephanie just mentioned, I addressed towards the towards the end of | 00:11:12 | |
the very quick presentation. | 00:11:17 | |
And so if you guys can see the PowerPoint, I can just start running through it real quick. | 00:11:23 | |
Go. | 00:11:30 | |
We see it. OK, great. OK, perfect. Thank you. | 00:11:31 | |
Let's get this going here. | 00:11:36 | |
And it's not moving forward. | 00:11:42 | |
OK. So here we go. So just a quick review for, for this year, I believe we had 34 artists that participated, I think we had | 00:11:46 | |
initially established. | 00:11:52 | |
There were going to be 30 and we were able to get 34, which is awesome. Liz and the and the Downtown Arts District did a great job | 00:11:59 | |
of helping to facilitate and promote the event and that is really what I think made it. | 00:12:06 | |
A wonderful event because you had a a great mixture of. | 00:12:15 | |
A great mixture of. | 00:12:20 | |
Sort of professional or seasoned artist and younger artists and we also had had great attendance as well. | 00:12:22 | |
From a press relations standpoint on the PG Chamber and the city, I helped promote it, The Pine Cone. There was a nice article in | 00:12:30 | |
there OKOKION had that had it on their community calendar online, and there were several local blogs and social media accounts | 00:12:36 | |
that shared the event. | 00:12:43 | |
As well. And for an inaugural event, it was I think great because we didn't get overwhelmed and it's always good to be able to | 00:12:51 | |
build out from that. We had paid advertising in the weekly and on Facebook and Instagram. We got great engagements for our | 00:12:58 | |
investment. | 00:13:05 | |
And then the just the final thing, so we do need to have noise permits for all the event. That's something that we have not had to | 00:13:12 | |
do with any of our events in the past, but obviously we received a complaint. | 00:13:19 | |
You guys saw the way in which the complaint was phrased and I wasn't super happy about that, so I'm just going to leave it at | 00:13:26 | |
that. But Jenny and I spoke the day after the event and what we're going to do is if we can. | 00:13:34 | |
Next month, with our budget is established, the tentative dates for all of our events we go in and we will. | 00:13:42 | |
Um, submit the sound permits for those dates. | 00:13:49 | |
And then we're covered and then all we have to do is then if we decide to move a date, we just have to amend the permit, but it's | 00:13:53 | |
already been established with the city. | 00:13:58 | |
It'd be great to see some wider outreach to the arts community and obviously this event will continue to grow and with the | 00:14:03 | |
inaugural event now we can start with the the business integration and that's where in the past I think that. | 00:14:12 | |
We would be able to get those gift certificates early on with businesses that can join in and utilizing some of the information | 00:14:21 | |
that Stephanie and Liz provided about other Chalk the block events, if you will. | 00:14:28 | |
You know they can be sponsors and you know dot dot dot have their. | 00:14:36 | |
You know, we we can publicize the fact that they're providing prizes to give them a little bit of an extra boost. | 00:14:43 | |
And so with that, I will stop sharing my screen. This will get emailed out in PDF form to everybody and I'm going to be switching | 00:14:50 | |
off of my computer now and back onto my phone because I've got to start driving to. | 00:14:58 | |
My doctor's appointment, but I will still be. | 00:15:06 | |
I will still be online to answer any questions, just you know. | 00:15:11 | |
Trying to juggle everything during the summer as you know how it goes. | 00:15:17 | |
Thanks, Steve so much, Steve. That's great. Thank you, Steve. | 00:15:21 | |
Hopefully you can hear me. This question is to you Steve or or anybody that has the answer. What is the cost of a sound permit? | 00:15:26 | |
Does anyone know? | 00:15:29 | |
I believe the the. | 00:15:34 | |
Amount that Jenny provided was $80. | 00:15:37 | |
OK. Maybe maybe 60 or 80, it wasn't, it wasn't over 100 and so we would just add that into our. | 00:15:41 | |
Our budget. | 00:15:53 | |
You're breaking up, Steve. | 00:15:57 | |
OK. | 00:16:02 | |
You know, anything like that, it looks like we would have to get a sound permit. | 00:16:03 | |
OK, we would not looks, we would have to get a sound permit. | 00:16:08 | |
Well, certainly to cover our. | 00:16:11 | |
Behinds in the future, Yes, since there are great people that are complaining. | 00:16:15 | |
Understood. | 00:16:20 | |
We know, yeah. And I. | 00:16:23 | |
Thought it was. It made my Saturday morning actually. I loved the music but it was fun. Yeah, it's all fun. I have an update from | 00:16:26 | |
Jenny. Unless we wanna keep talking about jukebox. Ohh, so that's. | 00:16:31 | |
So. | 00:16:38 | |
Just if we could just carry on with chocolate Block I I wanted to say that. | 00:16:39 | |
It would be great next year to start maybe in January and strategize how we plan this and I think it was really important to | 00:16:45 | |
provide some chalk to high school teachers in the community and also some books that that we gave them. | 00:16:54 | |
Because it it let them understand what it's about and and give them a chance to fool around with it in their own time and. | 00:17:03 | |
No, and they design. | 00:17:11 | |
Amazing. | 00:17:13 | |
I thought the the young entrance had some really good things and I also wanted to say I felt that the poster was geared towards | 00:17:14 | |
younger children. And I think I'd like to maybe use the octopus splash, the exhibits department as as a in the advertising next | 00:17:21 | |
year, as well as the leafy Sea Dragon, just because that's a little bit more grown up and we could we could have a variety, but I | 00:17:29 | |
just wanted to get more like older artists because we didn't have that many of the kids. | 00:17:36 | |
So just to have more balance in that, so to encourage more broadly that high school art classes and and you know those guys and | 00:17:44 | |
also older people, so I think. | 00:17:50 | |
You know, just more targeted marketing would would be. | 00:17:56 | |
Grace, you know to to get more diversity in this. | 00:18:01 | |
And then we, yeah, the doodle area, we'll have a designated doodle area for young kids next year with the other thing we thought | 00:18:06 | |
would be a good idea. And I think Jason mentioned that after a week it might be an idea to arrange for some power washing. | 00:18:12 | |
Because it starts to look. | 00:18:19 | |
I think you were saying it. It's. | 00:18:23 | |
Not the look you like in front of your shop, Jason, is that right? | 00:18:24 | |
Yeah, I think things I was going to chime in and and say something on that. So I like everything everybody's saying. It sounds | 00:18:29 | |
like this is a good first event and I'm also being asked all the time too when there's another one gonna be put on. And I mean | 00:18:34 | |
even doing these twice a year would be great because I think it was so well received, but. | 00:18:40 | |
I don't want to push it right. | 00:18:46 | |
But. | 00:18:49 | |
But yeah, let's do everything the same way. Just be more organized and elevate the marketing material. Do more marketing part of | 00:18:50 | |
that organization. Things that already have been said, of course is have have the prizes established ahead of time and mark, and | 00:18:58 | |
that should be part of the marketing campaign, at least on the landing page on the website. Here are the prizes which can draw | 00:19:06 | |
people, have the judges designated ahead of time so people like me can show up and aren't stuck in our. | 00:19:13 | |
Cops don't judge without me. | 00:19:21 | |
Oh. | 00:19:24 | |
That was good. | 00:19:26 | |
Ohh, sorry, go ahead Jason. I didn't mean to interrupt. | 00:19:27 | |
OK, so all all those things sound sound great in terms of organization for the next one. And yes, it definitely would like to | 00:19:30 | |
propose leave the stuff up for a week, but after that they're just now these smudges in front of all the shops, mine included. | 00:19:37 | |
Having a power washing after a week would be the thing, the thing to do. I think we're going to probably need approval. I heard | 00:19:45 | |
through the Grapevine, I don't know if this is true. One of you might know that power washing is not allowed in Pacific Grove. | 00:19:52 | |
But if that's the case, and we'll need approval to do it. | 00:20:00 | |
But it'd be important to do that in front of the shops they were on. | 00:20:04 | |
After a while, just kind of weird looking and unsightly. | 00:20:08 | |
Right and and Matt, you might remember when we power washed a few years ago when the bid to helped to. | 00:20:13 | |
Facilitate that. | 00:20:21 | |
I believe that if you are going to power wash, you definitely have to get a permit. | 00:20:23 | |
But also there are a couple of companies that do it and I'm I'm using air quotes here. | 00:20:29 | |
Waterless sly or they capture the water because it's a it's a storm water issue. | 00:20:37 | |
And this is when we were power washing due to the seagull. | 00:20:44 | |
I've done. | 00:20:49 | |
And so it was a it was a health issue. And while the chalk is non-toxic, I know that there are a number of people. | 00:20:50 | |
Umm. | 00:21:00 | |
In the city and on the City Council that. | 00:21:01 | |
Would have an issue with. | 00:21:05 | |
Anything flowing out to the Bay, even if it is non-toxic and so. | 00:21:07 | |
Umm. | 00:21:12 | |
What I'll do is I'll work with Jenny to try to and and the city and see what we can come up with and I can come back with a | 00:21:13 | |
report. | 00:21:17 | |
Just, you know, here's what we're going to need to do. Here's how we can go about it, That kind of a thing. | 00:21:21 | |
And that way then the the board can make a decision and ultimately it all comes down to what the cost is going to be for it. I | 00:21:27 | |
think it was the great event and to your point about the marketing, absolutely we can certainly have a. | 00:21:37 | |
A more grown up or experienced marketing feel for the event. | 00:21:47 | |
The only thing I would say in in regards to in the advertisements. | 00:21:54 | |
Or or the posters is if we can utilize some of the the artwork in a in a graphic way. | 00:21:59 | |
Still promoting it, but allowing for some flexibility for you know, print and online and things like that. | 00:22:07 | |
I think we will be able to. | 00:22:14 | |
Umm. | 00:22:17 | |
We'll be able to provide something that hits all the marks that you're looking for. | 00:22:19 | |
Yeah, some sounds good. | 00:22:24 | |
And excuse me, I forgot if I mentioned this to in addition to the, you know, prizes going ahead of time and part of the marketing | 00:22:28 | |
material having some categories that shared, I know we've judged with categories. | 00:22:34 | |
I don't know if that was shared with the the attendees or participants ahead of time, but I love the idea of having categories and | 00:22:40 | |
we can have categories geared toward adults and toward youth. | 00:22:46 | |
Yes. | 00:22:52 | |
As well and have those advertised ahead of time. | 00:22:53 | |
We had discussed maybe doing age groups do like a family category because one family actually won one of the awards, and then | 00:22:56 | |
doing age groups. | 00:23:01 | |
And then maybe like a best overall, we just kind of made-up five categories because we just were like right 11 little kid came up | 00:23:07 | |
to me and he says, do you have an award for most chaotic cause? I think I would win that. | 00:23:13 | |
Really. | 00:23:21 | |
Well, it's like stuff like that is fun and a great idea. The wackiest thing or something playful would be fun. | 00:23:23 | |
Yes, yes. | 00:23:29 | |
But I think, I think it was all positives except for that one. | 00:23:31 | |
Comment, but I don't. | 00:23:35 | |
Hi. | 00:23:37 | |
Take that with a grain of salt, because I think it was. | 00:23:37 | |
A little out of line, but. | 00:23:40 | |
That's just me. | 00:23:42 | |
Yeah, no, it's it was absolutely inspiring. I think everyone had a great time. So yeah, So the H banding as well. | 00:23:44 | |
I'm just wondering if you could approve it. | 00:23:54 | |
This down so that I have made a bunch of notes about it already. | 00:23:58 | |
All right. Anything else on the chopping block? | 00:24:04 | |
Block and I'm like, yeah, let's see. | 00:24:07 | |
We want to go back to the last one. I have an update from Jenny. Thank you. OK, so could you we'll we'll go back to. | 00:24:10 | |
Item. | 00:24:18 | |
The funding request. So what was the amount? So I I sent a text to Jenny asking her what the youth ambassadors asked for. They did | 00:24:21 | |
ask for 2500 and she informed me. | 00:24:27 | |
Um, that Dixie Lane is not planning on doing any events this year and we had given her that much for Butterfly Days. So. | 00:24:34 | |
That amount can just go to the youth and ambassadors if we wish to give it to them and it doesn't change anything from last year. | 00:24:42 | |
So we'll do you want, should we do a motion first for the 2500 and then? | 00:24:53 | |
Break this down so it doesn't move. | 00:25:01 | |
Thank you. | 00:25:06 | |
I'll make a motion to give $2500 to the Youth Ambassadors for the Pacific Grove Summer Lights Festival OK? | 00:25:07 | |
Ducking anyone? | 00:25:16 | |
Umm. | 00:25:18 | |
OK. | 00:25:20 | |
I'll second that. | 00:25:21 | |
I think we're getting noise from Christies, yeah, background composition, knowing what they're talking and they're, you know, it | 00:25:23 | |
is for them. | 00:25:26 | |
You might want to use. OK, so. | 00:25:31 | |
Great. So Matt Bosworth. | 00:25:35 | |
We'll vote on that. | 00:25:39 | |
2nd. | 00:25:41 | |
OK, Jason. | 00:25:42 | |
Hi. | 00:25:45 | |
75 And I vote as well, so we unanimously approve the funding request. | 00:25:47 | |
And then, so there is the amount of another $2500 that we're not going to be using for butterfly days. | 00:25:53 | |
And this is not on the agenda. I don't think we can. | 00:26:02 | |
Do it. Can we without? No. I think that was the amount. | 00:26:05 | |
She was saying to shift it to these ambassadors instead of butterfly days. | 00:26:10 | |
But does that have to be on or can we just vote on that do you any just we're we're just there's nothing to vote on because | 00:26:14 | |
they're not having the event. | 00:26:18 | |
No, I mean. | 00:26:23 | |
It's just a protocol thing. Can we invent another agenda item on the fly and say like, no, no, it does have to be public? Yeah, | 00:26:25 | |
that's what I thought. So, OK, let's. | 00:26:30 | |
Put that on the agenda for next time, then. Is that? | 00:26:36 | |
I guess I'll tell Jenny that that we will. | 00:26:41 | |
Discuss giving. | 00:26:45 | |
The same amount again doubling the amount because of no butterfly days. | 00:26:47 | |
OK, so. | 00:26:52 | |
Well. | 00:26:55 | |
Well, no, we we have a suspended $2500 that we had thought would be given to Butterfly Days but now it's not going to be because | 00:26:58 | |
they're not having the event. That's what Jenny said is weren't we're taking that amount and giving it to the youth ambassador. So | 00:27:04 | |
there's no Ohh. So that's not Ohh Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's just. | 00:27:10 | |
She just said it. Just. | 00:27:16 | |
Is it just clears out? Yeah, it's where it's one for one. We're good. Very good. All right then. | 00:27:19 | |
So let's move on to the logo update discussion. | 00:27:27 | |
So that is definitely locked us so. | 00:27:32 | |
I did some research. | 00:27:36 | |
You know we have our existing logo which you know we all agreed doesn't really capture the essence of what we yeah, Palmers, it's | 00:27:39 | |
more it looks a little bit more residential. | 00:27:46 | |
Um, so we had talked about having a logo contest. | 00:27:52 | |
Umm. | 00:27:57 | |
Which is great locally. | 00:27:58 | |
There are. I found out. I had no idea. There are websites where you can offer $250 and graphic designers just flood you with | 00:28:01 | |
logos. | 00:28:06 | |
Had no idea that existed. | 00:28:11 | |
But some what we what I had. | 00:28:14 | |
Discussed at the last meeting, which I was concerned about, was. | 00:28:18 | |
Because I'm from the graphics field and with Steve with advertising is. | 00:28:23 | |
When we we need to give them specific guidelines. It can't be just somebody you know does a painting of. | 00:28:29 | |
Downtown. And they're like here, this is your logo. | 00:28:37 | |
So I I put together and I can share, I can e-mail this, have Jenny e-mail this. But I put together kind of a. | 00:28:43 | |
Some specifics about the logo being in Scalable Vector Graphic Format, meaning. | 00:28:52 | |
Umm. | 00:28:58 | |
You know it can be one inch big or it can be billboard size and the quality of the the logo isn't doesn't suffer that it needs to | 00:29:00 | |
be in CMYK, but we may reproduce it in black and white or gay grayscale. | 00:29:07 | |
You know, we advised them to avoid gradients and have to. I mean, it's just very it's more technical stuff. | 00:29:17 | |
And then the other thing we had talked about is. | 00:29:23 | |
And I found a statement about intellectual property that the the contestants need to understand. Whatever. | 00:29:26 | |
Logo that we choose that it becomes our intellectual property and we. | 00:29:33 | |
You know, we'll use it on. | 00:29:40 | |
Website Social media sites, possibly apparel, posters, other printed materials. | 00:29:42 | |
And that they need to. | 00:29:48 | |
You know, agree to the fact that this artwork is theirs. They didn't copy it from anyone. It's not used. It's not any. | 00:29:51 | |
Licensed or stock artwork that you know requires a royalty or a fee to be paid. So it's just kind of some specifics, but. | 00:30:00 | |
The one part that I didn't know and I think needs further discussion from us is. | 00:30:09 | |
What we want the characteristic. You know what our it says on the the PG. | 00:30:14 | |
Website that the purpose of the Downtown Business Improvement District is to market and promote downtown Pacific growth. | 00:30:21 | |
So that's kind of our statement, but what? | 00:30:28 | |
What do what are we looking for in terms of a logo? | 00:30:32 | |
Like are we wanting? | 00:30:36 | |
It to be, you know. | 00:30:38 | |
We need some descriptive words to give to people, I think if we're gonna open this up to the public. | 00:30:41 | |
Yeah, that's. | 00:30:48 | |
So images that convey something about. | 00:30:51 | |
Homers, I suppose I mean. | 00:30:56 | |
Jason, you did a beautiful one for the Arts District and it had nothing to do with art. It was just. | 00:30:59 | |
Well, thank you. | 00:31:06 | |
The colors of our tunes with the Cypress tree and and it was stunning. With you it's it's yeah I. | 00:31:08 | |
My my suggestion on that is to just keep it. Keep it simple. Don't try and incorporate too many elements in it. I don't know I | 00:31:14 | |
mean. | 00:31:18 | |
If we go as far as. | 00:31:22 | |
Yeah, you're right. We did say it First, we were gonna do a contest. If we're kind of moving away from that, we just want to like, | 00:31:25 | |
give it to a couple of. | 00:31:28 | |
Graphic designers as say what they could come up with there, there is always the option of keeping let's just get it done, keeping | 00:31:34 | |
it in house. I can, I can help even just create one with a a friend of mine who's a graphic designer. | 00:31:39 | |
And do it that way just to throw that out there to. | 00:31:46 | |
Make things simple. If, if, if that helps. If you want to keep going down the road, we're going here. 250 bucks is definitely | 00:31:51 | |
affordable. | 00:31:56 | |
Happy to support that as well, but either way I would suggest just keeping it. | 00:32:01 | |
Keeping it as simple as possible so the logo received referring to. I could even show it here if if we want just to give some | 00:32:05 | |
context, but it's just a Cypress tree and some color and a pattern behind it. | 00:32:12 | |
And the and and the letters. | 00:32:19 | |
So, so think of a characteristic that will either define commerce or the area. | 00:32:24 | |
Or some something that you want to use to define us and then wrap it around to that. | 00:32:31 | |
I wouldn't try and incorporate too many things into it either way, but start with 1-2 elements at most. | 00:32:37 | |
And have talent be a part of it. | 00:32:43 | |
The palette that I used for for us, for the Arts District, Pacific Grove Council was Beach dune pallets. So we can go down that | 00:32:46 | |
road with it. We can go down. Cypress, Cypress Grove Palette, we can go down. | 00:32:53 | |
The colors of downtown, if there were such a thing. Palette, you know, something that you know represents Pacific Grove is what I | 00:33:00 | |
would suggest. | 00:33:04 | |
And would we want? | 00:33:08 | |
You know, we call this the bid, but it really. | 00:33:10 | |
It's the downtown Business Improvement District. Would we want that incorporated, you know? | 00:33:14 | |
Yeah, so. | 00:33:22 | |
Have a font specific that we use on everything or absolutely yes no. So I would I think that's. | 00:33:23 | |
So have standardized ponds, standardized pallets and and the logo that goes on everything. | 00:33:31 | |
As. | 00:33:38 | |
Yeah. | 00:33:42 | |
As your branding, branding, design, and that's, that's what you have cohesive throughout all of your internal materials and | 00:33:42 | |
outreach materials. | 00:33:47 | |
I. | 00:33:54 | |
I think the nice thing about a contest is that it generates some interest to the BID. | 00:33:55 | |
Because you know people will be hearing what the contest and. | 00:34:02 | |
I don't know. It would be very nice if we could recruit more regular attendees to the. | 00:34:06 | |
To the BID and get more interest and I'm just wondering if that would be? | 00:34:13 | |
The PR. | 00:34:17 | |
Thing. | 00:34:20 | |
I don't know. I I made a logo for Restaurant Week that we were going to have at one point. I don't know if we could do like a. | 00:34:22 | |
Did anyone? | 00:34:32 | |
I'll just send it to you guys. It just is a like a silhouette of. | 00:34:34 | |
Of downtown. | 00:34:40 | |
Liz, Liz, one of the things that came came to mind here thinking of this, is that the. | 00:34:42 | |
Help me remember this here. But when we when we were first starting the arts district you had a document that you created which | 00:34:48 | |
was defining your was outlining your. | 00:34:53 | |
Ideas for the Pacific Grove Art District. And on the front of that there was like a a bit of a drawing of a a downtown scene and I | 00:34:59 | |
think it was your block. Does that ring a bell? | 00:35:04 | |
Michaela did that. | 00:35:10 | |
Yeah, actually that's that. That comes to mind as a nice sort of icon for for the logo. | 00:35:11 | |
Shop fronts, was it that one? | 00:35:20 | |
Yes, yeah. | 00:35:23 | |
So something along those lines or this one is more bold and logo. Why you know? | 00:35:24 | |
So you can't see it, I will send it to you, but it's it's not actually. | 00:35:30 | |
A Pacific Grove, but it could be made to be Pacific Grove, and it's it's just silhouettes of buildings and then you know. | 00:35:35 | |
Something like that would be nice. And then just have it read right underneath it with a with one of our fonts that we agree on. | 00:35:43 | |
Business Improvement District, Pacific Grove. | 00:35:51 | |
You just can't have any specific businesses on it. You know, like this one is so great, but it does have, you know, all of the | 00:35:55 | |
names of all of our businesses on it. But I, you know, our block is so iconic. Yeah. Yeah. | 00:36:03 | |
That kind of thing so. | 00:36:10 | |
Like a silhouette kind of thing. | 00:36:12 | |
Thank you. | 00:36:15 | |
The. | 00:36:16 | |
The awnings and things that symbolize shoppers, you know, So yeah. | 00:36:17 | |
All artists that we think. | 00:36:23 | |
You know. | 00:36:25 | |
Something like. | 00:36:26 | |
You know, building outlines, silhouettes, line drawings, whatever. But not specific business. | 00:36:28 | |
I don't know, so I think we've got a few ideas. It's always good to have these informal discussions with this group. | 00:36:35 | |
I feel like we cover more. | 00:36:43 | |
Territory So. | 00:36:45 | |
The thing is though, is is coming up with a. | 00:36:47 | |
A decision, so so do we want to make it a contest or do we want to? | 00:36:51 | |
Yeah, do we want? So the options on the table are the contest. | 00:36:56 | |
Getting a graphic designer doing an online world. | 00:37:02 | |
So. | 00:37:06 | |
Well, just to highlight the obvious of the contest is I don't know. | 00:37:08 | |
I don't know how much of a hurry we're in for this, but if we do the contest, you know, we get all the benefits that Liz. | 00:37:12 | |
Highlighted there of the community participation. The downside is it's going to prolong things. | 00:37:19 | |
Several months or however long it takes. | 00:37:25 | |
I don't know that we're in any hurry to get it done. | 00:37:27 | |
Because I mean, I can't think of any particular. | 00:37:32 | |
Urgency that we have on this. | 00:37:35 | |
Umm. | 00:37:38 | |
You know, to be honest, we don't have an Instagram, we don't have a website. | 00:37:39 | |
We just put it at the top of our agenda right now, so. | 00:37:42 | |
And I for now, yeah. And that's the whole point was, I think. | 00:37:48 | |
Let let this hopefully be the. | 00:37:51 | |
First in a sort of turning point where we do consider the outward facing the ID a little bit more and the need to recruit people | 00:37:54 | |
and. | 00:37:59 | |
Has people have a voice and have, you know, we might. | 00:38:04 | |
Reach out to people more and be more relevant to people so. | 00:38:07 | |
So yeah, I think eventually would be super important. And needs to express values. It needs to express a, you know, a peppy nice | 00:38:12 | |
image of, you know, people that take action and do things and and. | 00:38:17 | |
You know. | 00:38:24 | |
Positive or positive? So where would we step forwards? Where would we if we did? We did a contest, a local contest? | 00:38:26 | |
I mean, I would think like the high school, the Arts Center. | 00:38:35 | |
Maybe the Arts Center is a huge one. Yeah, the Arts District has an e-mail list of 300 people. OK, FYI. So those might be the | 00:38:40 | |
obvious places to send it out to local graphic designers and businesses. I mean, it might be a feather in their cap to say and our | 00:38:47 | |
design was chosen is, you know, OK, winner of. | 00:38:54 | |
So it sounds like we're going with the contest idea. | 00:39:02 | |
It. | 00:39:08 | |
So you want to vote on that? | 00:39:09 | |
There a motion is any more to discuss or can we vote? | 00:39:13 | |
Well, I'll just, before we vote, I'll just. | 00:39:18 | |
Same like past experience with. | 00:39:21 | |
You know, anything artistic, it's so subjective and you're never going to get everyone to agree. | 00:39:24 | |
I kind of like just sort of the directed Keep it simple. | 00:39:29 | |
Here's the concept. Say commerce. We have to keep in mind there's other things besides restaurants and, you know, resale shops. | 00:39:34 | |
The contest seems. | 00:39:43 | |
Like we're just asking for. | 00:39:46 | |
It's definitely going to be less of a professional way to approach it, you know. Typically you would go to a professional firm for | 00:39:50 | |
a. | 00:39:54 | |
For a logo that just like Jason said it, it. | 00:39:58 | |
Connotes A. | 00:40:01 | |
To a particular concept. | 00:40:04 | |
So I think the contest is great and the engagement with the community is is great. | 00:40:08 | |
But it is going to be more difficult for sure and you might not get as professional with a product. | 00:40:13 | |
Well, let me, since Matt said that, let me Devil's advocate for a second and if you guys want to want to do it, do a contest I. | 00:40:18 | |
Full support of it doesn't matter to me either way, but. | 00:40:25 | |
Do we have to agree to use something that we get from the contest if we don't like any of them? There is a There is a line that I | 00:40:32 | |
found in other contests that says the Downtown Improvement District reverse reserves the right to modify the winning logo to | 00:40:38 | |
better fit the needs of the organization. | 00:40:44 | |
There you go. | 00:40:50 | |
Maybe. Maybe Matt will take it and send it to a graphic designer at the end of the contest and say retool it. | 00:40:51 | |
But but when? Why don't we do that? Why don't we do it and keep that in mind to to make us feel better about moving forward? Is | 00:41:00 | |
that, yeah, let's reserve that right and we can retool it as as needed to better serve our needs. But the community. | 00:41:07 | |
A rallying benefit that Liz is talking about sound sounds like. | 00:41:14 | |
Sounds like it couldn't hurt. | 00:41:19 | |
OK. | 00:41:22 | |
So maybe you and I, Liz, can brainstorm on some descriptive ideas of. | 00:41:24 | |
Kind of ideas for them and kind of put together this. | 00:41:31 | |
Sheets that we could, you know, send out to people. Sounds good to me, yeah. | 00:41:36 | |
Thanks. Stephanie, assume that was you, you just talking there, you mean like I said a parameters by which the participants. OK, | 00:41:42 | |
got it. Yeah. | 00:41:46 | |
OK. And should we give ourselves a timeline on that or should we just say that by the next meeting we can have a meeting, we'll | 00:41:51 | |
have a proposal so that we can send it out right away? OK. | 00:41:57 | |
I think it's pretty. I got a lot done on it. I think we just need to give. | 00:42:04 | |
Those. Those. | 00:42:09 | |
You know. | 00:42:12 | |
Do well, since this is a contest and we want to get participation, should we have prizes? | 00:42:14 | |
We'll have to pay. We'll have a monetary price. I think we can. I think Jenny said we could budget, we had budget to do, you know, | 00:42:22 | |
a monetary prize for the winning. | 00:42:27 | |
Logo. So should we get that decided next meeting? Yeah let's when we have the budget maybe we can look at the numbers and figure | 00:42:33 | |
out where that have a budget before we Yeah. And you could always, you know I'm happy to donate a gift card to you know. | 00:42:40 | |
Because I have our art kind of materials that might. | 00:42:48 | |
Be of interest to them. | 00:42:51 | |
OK. | 00:42:54 | |
OK, so. | 00:42:56 | |
We. | 00:42:58 | |
We'll figure that out the next one, yeah. | 00:42:59 | |
OK, so do we Do we have a motion to? | 00:43:03 | |
Approve the. | 00:43:08 | |
Subcommittee on. | 00:43:11 | |
Making a proposal for. | 00:43:13 | |
Competition for a logo. | 00:43:15 | |
We would like to make a motion. | 00:43:23 | |
Yes, I would And I'll second. | 00:43:26 | |
OK, Matt. | 00:43:31 | |
I would vote yes if we're voting. | 00:43:35 | |
That's, that's what I meant. Yes. Thank you and Jason. | 00:43:38 | |
Yes, I. | 00:43:42 | |
Aye, yeah. | 00:43:43 | |
OK. So thank you very much for that. OK, new business. | 00:43:47 | |
This agenda item number 8. | 00:43:52 | |
And ask if. | 00:43:55 | |
The board or any attending people have new business. | 00:43:58 | |
OK. | 00:44:06 | |
Any business updates from Advisory Board members then agenda item 9. | 00:44:08 | |
Usually we this is where we ask Jenny. So what's happening with that? Ohh right, Yeah. | 00:44:15 | |
So I think from what I've heard, I think the Chase building is going to be. | 00:44:21 | |
Going into escrow in the next week or two and the person who's buying it is intending on having apartments upstairs and two retail | 00:44:27 | |
spaces down below. | 00:44:33 | |
From what I've heard and Bank of America I think started. | 00:44:40 | |
Construction. | 00:44:43 | |
Into converting that space. | 00:44:45 | |
It looks like there might be some demo. | 00:44:47 | |
They're soon over at the where? The hotels. The hotel? Yeah. | 00:44:49 | |
You know, cordoned off the. | 00:44:55 | |
And the sidewalks there, so and I know 520 got their transformer but it was bad, so they were waiting for a new transformer and I | 00:44:57 | |
don't know if they got that yet. | 00:45:02 | |
Ohh yeah yeah. | 00:45:07 | |
Because they haven't been able to do. | 00:45:09 | |
You know, I think four of the units are spoken for, but they can't sell them or do anything until they have all their inspections. | 00:45:12 | |
The elevator, I mean, if you don't have power, you don't, you can't test anything. So I don't know where that stands. | 00:45:19 | |
OK. | 00:45:28 | |
Jenny has her finger on the pulse. We can save all these questions the next time, yeah? | 00:45:29 | |
I maybe I should? | 00:45:34 | |
Just update people on the parts list if you don't already know there was a City Council meeting. | 00:45:36 | |
21st of June and there were two options open to the Council and we had favored option B. However they went with option A and so. | 00:45:43 | |
But you know, in life you have to be optimistic. So I will tell you what what I know about it I. | 00:45:59 | |
The opposition that I. | 00:46:08 | |
You know, heard against this was that there's no guaranteed amenities in this plan. There's no guaranteed price. | 00:46:11 | |
For your cost, I should say in the plan, and that is a big concern. Obviously everyone wants to make that corner safe. There are | 00:46:20 | |
lots of different options, like at least three. | 00:46:26 | |
Before even, but they've gone with this one and so I think it was a disappointment that that the others were not given. | 00:46:33 | |
Incineration and also that. | 00:46:43 | |
There's, you know, we had mentioned that on that corner it is a wind tunnel. Wine glasses blow up. When we were just on the | 00:46:47 | |
sidewalk before we had the parklet bill, the wine glasses flew off the table. So people have a week break there it it will be | 00:46:55 | |
unusable. The guano problem as you know with all the seagull nesting there is, is a big problem. So that sort of thing and Laurie | 00:47:02 | |
McDonald did say that it is just under specified so that we shouldn't panic that maybe. | 00:47:10 | |
These things will be allowed. However, maybe they won't be allowed. So maybe we need to keep a little bit of an eye on things and | 00:47:17 | |
you know, we just want like for it to be usable, we would. | 00:47:24 | |
Like certain amenities. | 00:47:31 | |
We don't know about the cost. The mayor did say that some of the costs would be borne by the city, but that also suggests that the | 00:47:33 | |
businesses are so are going to be. | 00:47:39 | |
You know, having to pay as well. So and we don't know what those costs are. So those were the sort of disappointments for the | 00:47:46 | |
business community. | 00:47:50 | |
But you know, let's I think also there are no like stakeholders as part of the process. | 00:47:55 | |
Umm. | 00:48:03 | |
I think Luke Coletti said. Ohh. Some restaurant owners have been approached but did not want to go on record, and I just know of | 00:48:05 | |
one who is. | 00:48:10 | |
Asked about it and was very upset. | 00:48:15 | |
At the suggestion of losing his park list, so he declined to cooperate so. | 00:48:18 | |
I don't know. I mean I I we're hoping going forward that. | 00:48:23 | |
The restaurant owners on that block will be. | 00:48:28 | |
You know. | 00:48:32 | |
Part of the process. | 00:48:33 | |
Those are those are the insecurities that say that this is to be right now and we hope that. | 00:48:35 | |
You know it will. | 00:48:41 | |
Being resolved. | 00:48:43 | |
So that's there, Or is it memorizing everyone like? | 00:48:45 | |
Yikes. | 00:48:48 | |
Yeah, any other updates? | 00:48:51 | |
OK. | 00:48:55 | |
All right. I'm sorry, Liz, I I was just going to make a suggestion. | 00:48:56 | |
Regarding this and going forward and. | 00:49:01 | |
It's so. | 00:49:05 | |
From a public outreach and a, you know, sort of lobbying perspective. | 00:49:06 | |
I know the Chamber does a great job, but now with the Arts District, which is a. | 00:49:13 | |
You know a A at its core. You know a a business focused district or the HID the BID. | 00:49:20 | |
I think it would be who of all of these groups to work in partnership when things like this arise. | 00:49:29 | |
Umm. | 00:49:38 | |
I pay very, very close attention to a lot of things that go on with with the city and things like that, and obviously not only for | 00:49:39 | |
my clients. | 00:49:43 | |
But just because I'm generally interested in that and there seems to be a. | 00:49:48 | |
Fairly. | 00:49:55 | |
Aggressive push. | 00:49:56 | |
Thank you. | 00:49:59 | |
Umm. | 00:50:01 | |
What's the best word to make sure that anything that is going to change? | 00:50:02 | |
Pacific Grove. | 00:50:10 | |
That might favor the business community the the the brakes are put on. | 00:50:12 | |
Umm. | 00:50:18 | |
And I think that. | 00:50:20 | |
You know the the parklets and stuff like that are are certainly the way that it's gone about with some of the. | 00:50:23 | |
Issues that were raised by some of the council members and some of the folks on some of the boards and commissions. | 00:50:30 | |
I just would, I would caution our our, our bid and everybody else to be mindful of. | 00:50:37 | |
Of working together. | 00:50:45 | |
To let our position be known. | 00:50:48 | |
Because. | 00:50:50 | |
You know, like with parklets, you know it was the the word. Safety was used the word. | 00:50:52 | |
Fairness was used and. | 00:50:57 | |
But I also know that when the issues about the wildlife are being brought up. | 00:51:01 | |
Anything that is dealing with wildlife in Pacific Grove. | 00:51:08 | |
Is going to have to now go through a couple of additional committees. | 00:51:12 | |
To get approval. | 00:51:16 | |
With regards to anything, so Liz, your comment about making sure that the parklets are covered. | 00:51:18 | |
If it involves wildlife, the new wildlife subcommittee is you know you, you're going to have to move things through that and so. | 00:51:26 | |
Again, I I don't want to be alarmist, but I just wanted to to put that out there. | 00:51:35 | |
And and the council will listen to. | 00:51:40 | |
The larger voices, the more The more voices, the better for. | 00:51:43 | |
Things that benefit the business district to be heard and so I just I wanted to put that out there and by the way I love wildlife | 00:51:49 | |
and. | 00:51:53 | |
I don't want you to think that I'm, I'm against it or anything like that, but it's getting harder and harder to be able to. | 00:51:57 | |
Simply do business. | 00:52:04 | |
With some of the new rules and regulations that have been put in place. | 00:52:07 | |
Yeah, good. Good point, Steven. Zach, let me say one more thing and we're running out of time here, but. | 00:52:11 | |
I was going to. | 00:52:18 | |
Right. I received an e-mail from Bill about about that meeting, Bill Peak, and was going to respond to them with the suggestion of | 00:52:20 | |
how moving forward. | 00:52:24 | |
This shouldn't the the Planning Commission shouldn't be moving forward without input from the from the stakeholders. And you're | 00:52:30 | |
right there is there's a lot of. | 00:52:34 | |
While we're all on the same page, the chambers on the same page, we're on the same page. Ours just tries on the same page, even | 00:52:39 | |
get the EDC is on the same page. So yeah, having having a response instead of maybe just coming from me with that suggestion. | 00:52:45 | |
Of should come from all of us. I'm happy to draft an e-mail and get with everybody separately so we could all put our names on the | 00:52:52 | |
same kind of letter going to Bill and be a unified front of. | 00:52:57 | |
You know, telling them to. You know, be aware of of what all of these pro business, downtown, pro business entities are are | 00:53:03 | |
pushing for here. Stakeholders should be involved moving forward. | 00:53:09 | |
My take away from that is that a super group of business interests in town. | 00:53:18 | |
Should. | 00:53:26 | |
Well, could be a bonus in lobbying. | 00:53:27 | |
Our interests with the City Council, so I prefer Justice League, but OK, supergroup is fine. | 00:53:32 | |
Well, just yeah, just to say I I like that idea. | 00:53:42 | |
The thing is that every single group was for option. | 00:53:47 | |
B Yeah, except the HID who was not consulted. So I'm not sure that it made a huge difference, but I I think it's important. I | 00:53:50 | |
always think it's important to have organizing. | 00:53:56 | |
You know and I. | 00:54:03 | |
I I let my customers know. I said if you want to have a voice, please say, you know, please talk to the council and whatever, | 00:54:04 | |
whatever. I I think organising is always a good thing because that's how democracies work. We want people to express themselves | 00:54:10 | |
and especially stakeholders and interested people. I hope they don't leave us. | 00:54:16 | |
Happy I got a Jet. I know where I'll I'm happy to take lead on drafting that letter. I'll run it by as many of you as I can. | 00:54:23 | |
Moving forward, but I was planning on responding to Bill Peak anyway. On on on his e-mail to me on it. He's had some some | 00:54:30 | |
sympathies to the letter that I wrote to him leading up to it, so that's how we'll follow up. | 00:54:36 | |
OK. And I mean I had just have so much to say on, I mean don't get me on the top topical park list, but Steve I mean all the | 00:54:43 | |
options are safe by the way all the options. So I, I, you know. | 00:54:48 | |
There, that's a whole. That's a very easy discussion. Like wildlife, I don't think covering hurts wildlife, just covering the part | 00:54:54 | |
of it, that's all, you know, it's like. | 00:54:59 | |
You know, anyway. | 00:55:04 | |
No, no, you're absolutely right. And I agree. I agree with that 100%, But I I know for a fact on some other projects. | 00:55:07 | |
That anything that affects. | 00:55:15 | |
That is going to be brought up by some council members and certainly by the BNRC. | 00:55:18 | |
As everything now is being looked through, the lens of how does it affect wildlife? | 00:55:25 | |
And it's and again, like I said, I I love wildlife. But that's what's that's that's the what is being used to slow everything. | 00:55:32 | |
OK. All right. Well, all great stuff. This will all go on the next agenda so that we can actually have some time to talk about it, | 00:55:41 | |
because now we don't. So thank you, everybody. And we're adjourning the meeting at 9:31. | 00:55:47 | |
Yeah. | 00:55:55 | |
OK. Cheers. Have a good day. Thanks. | 00:55:57 |
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That's why they were weird. I was stuck in, stuck in a waiting room, looked like. | 00:00:06 | |
OK, so. | 00:00:11 | |
That's the whole call then. | 00:00:13 | |
Matt Bosworth. | 00:00:15 | |
I'm here. | 00:00:17 | |
It's in Bradley. | 00:00:19 | |
Yeah, yeah. | 00:00:20 | |
Loftus here and Liz Jacobs is also here. | 00:00:22 | |
So we have 4-4 board members, so let us. | 00:00:26 | |
Begin the meeting. | 00:00:34 | |
At the time. | 00:00:35 | |
830-6836. | 00:00:38 | |
Thank you. Can I just ask? | 00:00:40 | |
I don't remember the status of. | 00:00:44 | |
Do you have an extra edge? | 00:00:50 | |
Because I didn't know this. OK, I've got her on the phone, but I think. | 00:00:54 | |
Yeah, two weeks. | 00:01:02 | |
OK. I'll give you hers. OK. Sounds good. There we go. I'll take it back. | 00:01:05 | |
Absolutely. OK. | 00:01:11 | |
Right. | 00:01:13 | |
Just a just a question. | 00:01:16 | |
We had talked about extending this to be an hour long meeting instead of 45 minutes. Can I just ask, do you know if there has been | 00:01:19 | |
any change on that? | 00:01:22 | |
I'll just move that forward. OK. So welcome everybody. | 00:01:28 | |
I'd like to invite any public comments that on the items that are not on the agenda. Is there anyone? | 00:01:33 | |
Online, our note of thanks. | 00:01:42 | |
Seeing none, let's move on to. | 00:01:45 | |
Item number four on the agenda, which is the. | 00:01:48 | |
20/23/24. | 00:01:52 | |
Budget reports. | 00:01:55 | |
Well, budget here, so. | 00:01:58 | |
I did get a report from Jenny which. | 00:02:01 | |
You know the annual reports. | 00:02:07 | |
Year. | 00:02:09 | |
This just came in. | 00:02:12 | |
On the notes to me, so apologies. | 00:02:15 | |
It's. | 00:02:18 | |
I don't know that we're going to be able to do anything about that because none of us have it. | 00:02:23 | |
Exactly. I think I would move. | 00:02:27 | |
That we push this to the next. | 00:02:30 | |
Meeting because this has a lot of detail in it and I think that everyone's going to want to look at it. Sure, it's got numbers | 00:02:33 | |
and. | 00:02:36 | |
It's just 2 1/2 pages, I think quite easily read it, but I feel like you'd want to read it yourselves. So anyone wanna second | 00:02:41 | |
promotion? | 00:02:45 | |
I'll second. | 00:02:50 | |
OK then. | 00:02:52 | |
Let's vote. | 00:02:54 | |
So we're voting to move the budget report to the August meeting, OK? | 00:02:57 | |
Mats. | 00:03:03 | |
Aye. | 00:03:05 | |
Jason. | 00:03:07 | |
Aye. | 00:03:08 | |
Aye, I vote as well to move it to the next one, OK? | 00:03:10 | |
So let's move on to item number 5, approving the funding request for youth ambassadors. We had the presentation last week. | 00:03:16 | |
And I really. | 00:03:24 | |
Felt like we all wanted to support them. Yes, and we. | 00:03:27 | |
Basically agreed to do that at this meeting, so. | 00:03:31 | |
I don't have the details of me. Do you remember what the amount was? I think we wanted. | 00:03:35 | |
Is it something like three? I think it was like 2500 or something in that it was an amount that seems. | 00:03:44 | |
And Jenny said we had. | 00:03:51 | |
We have the the budget, the budget for it exactly. OK, so would can I just check? Would anyone like further discussion on this or | 00:03:53 | |
further information, or do you remember well enough from last time to be able to vote to support this? | 00:04:00 | |
Any comments from? | 00:04:11 | |
The board. | 00:04:13 | |
What was the dollar amount again? | 00:04:16 | |
Yeah, we think it was like 2 1/2 or $3000. | 00:04:19 | |
And Jenny had said that we have the budget for it. | 00:04:25 | |
I'm so sorry if I had known that I was. | 00:04:29 | |
Leaving the meeting. | 00:04:31 | |
He would have done more homework on this. So yes, Steve Thomas. | 00:04:34 | |
I was just going to say for for those newer members in the past, I believe it was 2500. I could be wrong, but. | 00:04:39 | |
This was also money that in the past had been allocated to the. | 00:04:47 | |
Feast of Lanterns as one of the sponsors of the fireworks or of the actual pageant. And so. | 00:04:52 | |
While it is a different request, Matt, from an accounting standpoint, it's not something that. | 00:05:00 | |
Is out of the ordinary and I just wanted to provide that background. | 00:05:07 | |
Thank you. | 00:05:10 | |
Thank you. | 00:05:12 | |
Thank you, Steve. | 00:05:14 | |
Well, I would move to approve that. | 00:05:17 | |
That expense. | 00:05:21 | |
Yeah. | 00:05:22 | |
OK. Let me hold that for just one second and let me ask Laurie, do we have minutes from the meetings now? | 00:05:24 | |
Let me ask Jenny so because I'm sure it might not even be in the next. | 00:05:32 | |
I just feel like the responsible thing is to know the amount that let me. I'm texting Jack, Jenny. OK, perfect. | 00:05:38 | |
OK, so. | 00:05:45 | |
Whilst. | 00:05:46 | |
I'm sorry, it's just a little thing and I'm sure it's fine, but I would really like to get the dollar amount, I mean. | 00:05:48 | |
If if possible, OK. | 00:05:54 | |
I'm just looking through this to see if there's anything. | 00:05:57 | |
Maybe we move on to item 6 while we wait to hear from Jenny. | 00:06:03 | |
Yeah. | 00:06:11 | |
Or we could just say an amount. We could say 2500 if you want to. | 00:06:13 | |
Is that does that sound OK? | 00:06:23 | |
Certainly sounds in line. | 00:06:28 | |
I I just don't want to set a precedent. | 00:06:30 | |
You know if it's way higher than what we've donated before. | 00:06:33 | |
Anyone like to make a motion to approve 2500? | 00:06:38 | |
I like to wait to hear from Jenny. | 00:06:45 | |
OK. Then let us move on to the Chocolate Block event. So is there any way, Steve, that you can show this is a really attractive | 00:06:50 | |
PowerPoint? I I just saw it in the. | 00:06:56 | |
Yeah, hang on for just a second. | 00:07:06 | |
I've I had said this to Jenny and I didn't realize she wasn't going to be there. I've got a doctor's appointment at 9:15, So what | 00:07:10 | |
I'm going to do is very quickly hop on to. | 00:07:15 | |
My computer, because I actually happen to be and I'm going to, I'm going to join the meeting via my computer. | 00:07:21 | |
And that I can share the. | 00:07:29 | |
The PowerPoint, so just bear with me for just a a quick moment. | 00:07:32 | |
I. | 00:07:38 | |
Let's see here just trying to open the. | 00:07:39 | |
OK, while you're getting that ready, I just would love to say something that it was a very beautiful event and. | 00:07:44 | |
Yeah, I think everyone who's. | 00:07:52 | |
Who attended really enjoyed it and. | 00:07:54 | |
I'll just say that. | 00:07:57 | |
I put some I took a lot of photographs and I put some on the Pacific Grove Arts District Instagram. | 00:07:59 | |
And on next door because it's a. | 00:08:08 | |
Yeah, I advertised the event on there, so there's a lot of interest. So I put the photos on and I think it was 4 posts that I did | 00:08:12 | |
of 10 photos each. | 00:08:16 | |
This is the maximum you can upload this 10 and. | 00:08:21 | |
I don't know. I just had so many lights and comments and then next door gave me a badge for the most popular. | 00:08:25 | |
The month or something and. | 00:08:34 | |
Anyway, so it was it was received really well and. | 00:08:38 | |
You know. | 00:08:42 | |
I think we've. | 00:08:44 | |
You stumbled onto something. Really. Really. | 00:08:45 | |
Important for the future, for generating. | 00:08:49 | |
Interest. I walked around in the shops as well and I found. | 00:08:52 | |
For example, Studio 171, she said it was the busiest day that she'd had, she thought all year and you know, there was. It did | 00:08:57 | |
bring in. | 00:09:01 | |
Well, you, what would you say, would you say that you had? Yeah, it was busy. I was outside. | 00:09:08 | |
For the event, which was really fun. | 00:09:13 | |
It was really well received and a lot of parents coming up. | 00:09:17 | |
Thanking us for putting it on a couple notes that I wrote down. | 00:09:22 | |
Next year. | 00:09:28 | |
Everybody wants. They're already a like when is it happening again? They're excited about it, which is fun. | 00:09:30 | |
We kind of. | 00:09:36 | |
Made a designated little doodle area for kids because a lot of kids were coming up. | 00:09:38 | |
With family, with their parents and seeing what other people were doing. And so, you know, we just had a box of chalk out there | 00:09:43 | |
and they were doodling all kinds of cute things on the sidewalk, which was fun. | 00:09:48 | |
Umm. | 00:09:54 | |
I think we all received the e-mail that Jenny sent from the. | 00:09:55 | |
Complaint from the resident of the Holman Building. | 00:09:59 | |
We didn't have a sound permit for the event, which was. | 00:10:03 | |
Not great. The police officer who came by was very nice. | 00:10:08 | |
And just had us. | 00:10:13 | |
You know, I had because it was pretty loud in the morning, so the the. | 00:10:14 | |
The police officer came by and just talked to the DJ and had him. | 00:10:19 | |
Um. | 00:10:24 | |
Turn down the sound a little bit, which was fine. | 00:10:26 | |
Umm. | 00:10:29 | |
We didn't have any prizes. | 00:10:31 | |
So I just ran. Liz was nice enough to donate a gift certificate, and then I ran a bunch of gift certificates so that we could give | 00:10:34 | |
something to each of the winners. | 00:10:38 | |
So next year, I think we just need to. | 00:10:43 | |
Be a little bit more proactive about that, but they were delighted and we had certificates for all the winners. | 00:10:48 | |
Umm. | 00:10:55 | |
And you know, other than that we had a lot of extra chalk, which was good. We're storing it. So we have a good start for next | 00:10:57 | |
year. | 00:11:00 | |
But it seemed like a lot of people brought their own non-toxic chalk to to. | 00:11:05 | |
To use. | 00:11:09 | |
So I can, I can run through this real quick. A lot of what Stephanie just mentioned, I addressed towards the towards the end of | 00:11:12 | |
the very quick presentation. | 00:11:17 | |
And so if you guys can see the PowerPoint, I can just start running through it real quick. | 00:11:23 | |
Go. | 00:11:30 | |
We see it. OK, great. OK, perfect. Thank you. | 00:11:31 | |
Let's get this going here. | 00:11:36 | |
And it's not moving forward. | 00:11:42 | |
OK. So here we go. So just a quick review for, for this year, I believe we had 34 artists that participated, I think we had | 00:11:46 | |
initially established. | 00:11:52 | |
There were going to be 30 and we were able to get 34, which is awesome. Liz and the and the Downtown Arts District did a great job | 00:11:59 | |
of helping to facilitate and promote the event and that is really what I think made it. | 00:12:06 | |
A wonderful event because you had a a great mixture of. | 00:12:15 | |
A great mixture of. | 00:12:20 | |
Sort of professional or seasoned artist and younger artists and we also had had great attendance as well. | 00:12:22 | |
From a press relations standpoint on the PG Chamber and the city, I helped promote it, The Pine Cone. There was a nice article in | 00:12:30 | |
there OKOKION had that had it on their community calendar online, and there were several local blogs and social media accounts | 00:12:36 | |
that shared the event. | 00:12:43 | |
As well. And for an inaugural event, it was I think great because we didn't get overwhelmed and it's always good to be able to | 00:12:51 | |
build out from that. We had paid advertising in the weekly and on Facebook and Instagram. We got great engagements for our | 00:12:58 | |
investment. | 00:13:05 | |
And then the just the final thing, so we do need to have noise permits for all the event. That's something that we have not had to | 00:13:12 | |
do with any of our events in the past, but obviously we received a complaint. | 00:13:19 | |
You guys saw the way in which the complaint was phrased and I wasn't super happy about that, so I'm just going to leave it at | 00:13:26 | |
that. But Jenny and I spoke the day after the event and what we're going to do is if we can. | 00:13:34 | |
Next month, with our budget is established, the tentative dates for all of our events we go in and we will. | 00:13:42 | |
Um, submit the sound permits for those dates. | 00:13:49 | |
And then we're covered and then all we have to do is then if we decide to move a date, we just have to amend the permit, but it's | 00:13:53 | |
already been established with the city. | 00:13:58 | |
It'd be great to see some wider outreach to the arts community and obviously this event will continue to grow and with the | 00:14:03 | |
inaugural event now we can start with the the business integration and that's where in the past I think that. | 00:14:12 | |
We would be able to get those gift certificates early on with businesses that can join in and utilizing some of the information | 00:14:21 | |
that Stephanie and Liz provided about other Chalk the block events, if you will. | 00:14:28 | |
You know they can be sponsors and you know dot dot dot have their. | 00:14:36 | |
You know, we we can publicize the fact that they're providing prizes to give them a little bit of an extra boost. | 00:14:43 | |
And so with that, I will stop sharing my screen. This will get emailed out in PDF form to everybody and I'm going to be switching | 00:14:50 | |
off of my computer now and back onto my phone because I've got to start driving to. | 00:14:58 | |
My doctor's appointment, but I will still be. | 00:15:06 | |
I will still be online to answer any questions, just you know. | 00:15:11 | |
Trying to juggle everything during the summer as you know how it goes. | 00:15:17 | |
Thanks, Steve so much, Steve. That's great. Thank you, Steve. | 00:15:21 | |
Hopefully you can hear me. This question is to you Steve or or anybody that has the answer. What is the cost of a sound permit? | 00:15:26 | |
Does anyone know? | 00:15:29 | |
I believe the the. | 00:15:34 | |
Amount that Jenny provided was $80. | 00:15:37 | |
OK. Maybe maybe 60 or 80, it wasn't, it wasn't over 100 and so we would just add that into our. | 00:15:41 | |
Our budget. | 00:15:53 | |
You're breaking up, Steve. | 00:15:57 | |
OK. | 00:16:02 | |
You know, anything like that, it looks like we would have to get a sound permit. | 00:16:03 | |
OK, we would not looks, we would have to get a sound permit. | 00:16:08 | |
Well, certainly to cover our. | 00:16:11 | |
Behinds in the future, Yes, since there are great people that are complaining. | 00:16:15 | |
Understood. | 00:16:20 | |
We know, yeah. And I. | 00:16:23 | |
Thought it was. It made my Saturday morning actually. I loved the music but it was fun. Yeah, it's all fun. I have an update from | 00:16:26 | |
Jenny. Unless we wanna keep talking about jukebox. Ohh, so that's. | 00:16:31 | |
So. | 00:16:38 | |
Just if we could just carry on with chocolate Block I I wanted to say that. | 00:16:39 | |
It would be great next year to start maybe in January and strategize how we plan this and I think it was really important to | 00:16:45 | |
provide some chalk to high school teachers in the community and also some books that that we gave them. | 00:16:54 | |
Because it it let them understand what it's about and and give them a chance to fool around with it in their own time and. | 00:17:03 | |
No, and they design. | 00:17:11 | |
Amazing. | 00:17:13 | |
I thought the the young entrance had some really good things and I also wanted to say I felt that the poster was geared towards | 00:17:14 | |
younger children. And I think I'd like to maybe use the octopus splash, the exhibits department as as a in the advertising next | 00:17:21 | |
year, as well as the leafy Sea Dragon, just because that's a little bit more grown up and we could we could have a variety, but I | 00:17:29 | |
just wanted to get more like older artists because we didn't have that many of the kids. | 00:17:36 | |
So just to have more balance in that, so to encourage more broadly that high school art classes and and you know those guys and | 00:17:44 | |
also older people, so I think. | 00:17:50 | |
You know, just more targeted marketing would would be. | 00:17:56 | |
Grace, you know to to get more diversity in this. | 00:18:01 | |
And then we, yeah, the doodle area, we'll have a designated doodle area for young kids next year with the other thing we thought | 00:18:06 | |
would be a good idea. And I think Jason mentioned that after a week it might be an idea to arrange for some power washing. | 00:18:12 | |
Because it starts to look. | 00:18:19 | |
I think you were saying it. It's. | 00:18:23 | |
Not the look you like in front of your shop, Jason, is that right? | 00:18:24 | |
Yeah, I think things I was going to chime in and and say something on that. So I like everything everybody's saying. It sounds | 00:18:29 | |
like this is a good first event and I'm also being asked all the time too when there's another one gonna be put on. And I mean | 00:18:34 | |
even doing these twice a year would be great because I think it was so well received, but. | 00:18:40 | |
I don't want to push it right. | 00:18:46 | |
But. | 00:18:49 | |
But yeah, let's do everything the same way. Just be more organized and elevate the marketing material. Do more marketing part of | 00:18:50 | |
that organization. Things that already have been said, of course is have have the prizes established ahead of time and mark, and | 00:18:58 | |
that should be part of the marketing campaign, at least on the landing page on the website. Here are the prizes which can draw | 00:19:06 | |
people, have the judges designated ahead of time so people like me can show up and aren't stuck in our. | 00:19:13 | |
Cops don't judge without me. | 00:19:21 | |
Oh. | 00:19:24 | |
That was good. | 00:19:26 | |
Ohh, sorry, go ahead Jason. I didn't mean to interrupt. | 00:19:27 | |
OK, so all all those things sound sound great in terms of organization for the next one. And yes, it definitely would like to | 00:19:30 | |
propose leave the stuff up for a week, but after that they're just now these smudges in front of all the shops, mine included. | 00:19:37 | |
Having a power washing after a week would be the thing, the thing to do. I think we're going to probably need approval. I heard | 00:19:45 | |
through the Grapevine, I don't know if this is true. One of you might know that power washing is not allowed in Pacific Grove. | 00:19:52 | |
But if that's the case, and we'll need approval to do it. | 00:20:00 | |
But it'd be important to do that in front of the shops they were on. | 00:20:04 | |
After a while, just kind of weird looking and unsightly. | 00:20:08 | |
Right and and Matt, you might remember when we power washed a few years ago when the bid to helped to. | 00:20:13 | |
Facilitate that. | 00:20:21 | |
I believe that if you are going to power wash, you definitely have to get a permit. | 00:20:23 | |
But also there are a couple of companies that do it and I'm I'm using air quotes here. | 00:20:29 | |
Waterless sly or they capture the water because it's a it's a storm water issue. | 00:20:37 | |
And this is when we were power washing due to the seagull. | 00:20:44 | |
I've done. | 00:20:49 | |
And so it was a it was a health issue. And while the chalk is non-toxic, I know that there are a number of people. | 00:20:50 | |
Umm. | 00:21:00 | |
In the city and on the City Council that. | 00:21:01 | |
Would have an issue with. | 00:21:05 | |
Anything flowing out to the Bay, even if it is non-toxic and so. | 00:21:07 | |
Umm. | 00:21:12 | |
What I'll do is I'll work with Jenny to try to and and the city and see what we can come up with and I can come back with a | 00:21:13 | |
report. | 00:21:17 | |
Just, you know, here's what we're going to need to do. Here's how we can go about it, That kind of a thing. | 00:21:21 | |
And that way then the the board can make a decision and ultimately it all comes down to what the cost is going to be for it. I | 00:21:27 | |
think it was the great event and to your point about the marketing, absolutely we can certainly have a. | 00:21:37 | |
A more grown up or experienced marketing feel for the event. | 00:21:47 | |
The only thing I would say in in regards to in the advertisements. | 00:21:54 | |
Or or the posters is if we can utilize some of the the artwork in a in a graphic way. | 00:21:59 | |
Still promoting it, but allowing for some flexibility for you know, print and online and things like that. | 00:22:07 | |
I think we will be able to. | 00:22:14 | |
Umm. | 00:22:17 | |
We'll be able to provide something that hits all the marks that you're looking for. | 00:22:19 | |
Yeah, some sounds good. | 00:22:24 | |
And excuse me, I forgot if I mentioned this to in addition to the, you know, prizes going ahead of time and part of the marketing | 00:22:28 | |
material having some categories that shared, I know we've judged with categories. | 00:22:34 | |
I don't know if that was shared with the the attendees or participants ahead of time, but I love the idea of having categories and | 00:22:40 | |
we can have categories geared toward adults and toward youth. | 00:22:46 | |
Yes. | 00:22:52 | |
As well and have those advertised ahead of time. | 00:22:53 | |
We had discussed maybe doing age groups do like a family category because one family actually won one of the awards, and then | 00:22:56 | |
doing age groups. | 00:23:01 | |
And then maybe like a best overall, we just kind of made-up five categories because we just were like right 11 little kid came up | 00:23:07 | |
to me and he says, do you have an award for most chaotic cause? I think I would win that. | 00:23:13 | |
Really. | 00:23:21 | |
Well, it's like stuff like that is fun and a great idea. The wackiest thing or something playful would be fun. | 00:23:23 | |
Yes, yes. | 00:23:29 | |
But I think, I think it was all positives except for that one. | 00:23:31 | |
Comment, but I don't. | 00:23:35 | |
Hi. | 00:23:37 | |
Take that with a grain of salt, because I think it was. | 00:23:37 | |
A little out of line, but. | 00:23:40 | |
That's just me. | 00:23:42 | |
Yeah, no, it's it was absolutely inspiring. I think everyone had a great time. So yeah, So the H banding as well. | 00:23:44 | |
I'm just wondering if you could approve it. | 00:23:54 | |
This down so that I have made a bunch of notes about it already. | 00:23:58 | |
All right. Anything else on the chopping block? | 00:24:04 | |
Block and I'm like, yeah, let's see. | 00:24:07 | |
We want to go back to the last one. I have an update from Jenny. Thank you. OK, so could you we'll we'll go back to. | 00:24:10 | |
Item. | 00:24:18 | |
The funding request. So what was the amount? So I I sent a text to Jenny asking her what the youth ambassadors asked for. They did | 00:24:21 | |
ask for 2500 and she informed me. | 00:24:27 | |
Um, that Dixie Lane is not planning on doing any events this year and we had given her that much for Butterfly Days. So. | 00:24:34 | |
That amount can just go to the youth and ambassadors if we wish to give it to them and it doesn't change anything from last year. | 00:24:42 | |
So we'll do you want, should we do a motion first for the 2500 and then? | 00:24:53 | |
Break this down so it doesn't move. | 00:25:01 | |
Thank you. | 00:25:06 | |
I'll make a motion to give $2500 to the Youth Ambassadors for the Pacific Grove Summer Lights Festival OK? | 00:25:07 | |
Ducking anyone? | 00:25:16 | |
Umm. | 00:25:18 | |
OK. | 00:25:20 | |
I'll second that. | 00:25:21 | |
I think we're getting noise from Christies, yeah, background composition, knowing what they're talking and they're, you know, it | 00:25:23 | |
is for them. | 00:25:26 | |
You might want to use. OK, so. | 00:25:31 | |
Great. So Matt Bosworth. | 00:25:35 | |
We'll vote on that. | 00:25:39 | |
2nd. | 00:25:41 | |
OK, Jason. | 00:25:42 | |
Hi. | 00:25:45 | |
75 And I vote as well, so we unanimously approve the funding request. | 00:25:47 | |
And then, so there is the amount of another $2500 that we're not going to be using for butterfly days. | 00:25:53 | |
And this is not on the agenda. I don't think we can. | 00:26:02 | |
Do it. Can we without? No. I think that was the amount. | 00:26:05 | |
She was saying to shift it to these ambassadors instead of butterfly days. | 00:26:10 | |
But does that have to be on or can we just vote on that do you any just we're we're just there's nothing to vote on because | 00:26:14 | |
they're not having the event. | 00:26:18 | |
No, I mean. | 00:26:23 | |
It's just a protocol thing. Can we invent another agenda item on the fly and say like, no, no, it does have to be public? Yeah, | 00:26:25 | |
that's what I thought. So, OK, let's. | 00:26:30 | |
Put that on the agenda for next time, then. Is that? | 00:26:36 | |
I guess I'll tell Jenny that that we will. | 00:26:41 | |
Discuss giving. | 00:26:45 | |
The same amount again doubling the amount because of no butterfly days. | 00:26:47 | |
OK, so. | 00:26:52 | |
Well. | 00:26:55 | |
Well, no, we we have a suspended $2500 that we had thought would be given to Butterfly Days but now it's not going to be because | 00:26:58 | |
they're not having the event. That's what Jenny said is weren't we're taking that amount and giving it to the youth ambassador. So | 00:27:04 | |
there's no Ohh. So that's not Ohh Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's just. | 00:27:10 | |
She just said it. Just. | 00:27:16 | |
Is it just clears out? Yeah, it's where it's one for one. We're good. Very good. All right then. | 00:27:19 | |
So let's move on to the logo update discussion. | 00:27:27 | |
So that is definitely locked us so. | 00:27:32 | |
I did some research. | 00:27:36 | |
You know we have our existing logo which you know we all agreed doesn't really capture the essence of what we yeah, Palmers, it's | 00:27:39 | |
more it looks a little bit more residential. | 00:27:46 | |
Um, so we had talked about having a logo contest. | 00:27:52 | |
Umm. | 00:27:57 | |
Which is great locally. | 00:27:58 | |
There are. I found out. I had no idea. There are websites where you can offer $250 and graphic designers just flood you with | 00:28:01 | |
logos. | 00:28:06 | |
Had no idea that existed. | 00:28:11 | |
But some what we what I had. | 00:28:14 | |
Discussed at the last meeting, which I was concerned about, was. | 00:28:18 | |
Because I'm from the graphics field and with Steve with advertising is. | 00:28:23 | |
When we we need to give them specific guidelines. It can't be just somebody you know does a painting of. | 00:28:29 | |
Downtown. And they're like here, this is your logo. | 00:28:37 | |
So I I put together and I can share, I can e-mail this, have Jenny e-mail this. But I put together kind of a. | 00:28:43 | |
Some specifics about the logo being in Scalable Vector Graphic Format, meaning. | 00:28:52 | |
Umm. | 00:28:58 | |
You know it can be one inch big or it can be billboard size and the quality of the the logo isn't doesn't suffer that it needs to | 00:29:00 | |
be in CMYK, but we may reproduce it in black and white or gay grayscale. | 00:29:07 | |
You know, we advised them to avoid gradients and have to. I mean, it's just very it's more technical stuff. | 00:29:17 | |
And then the other thing we had talked about is. | 00:29:23 | |
And I found a statement about intellectual property that the the contestants need to understand. Whatever. | 00:29:26 | |
Logo that we choose that it becomes our intellectual property and we. | 00:29:33 | |
You know, we'll use it on. | 00:29:40 | |
Website Social media sites, possibly apparel, posters, other printed materials. | 00:29:42 | |
And that they need to. | 00:29:48 | |
You know, agree to the fact that this artwork is theirs. They didn't copy it from anyone. It's not used. It's not any. | 00:29:51 | |
Licensed or stock artwork that you know requires a royalty or a fee to be paid. So it's just kind of some specifics, but. | 00:30:00 | |
The one part that I didn't know and I think needs further discussion from us is. | 00:30:09 | |
What we want the characteristic. You know what our it says on the the PG. | 00:30:14 | |
Website that the purpose of the Downtown Business Improvement District is to market and promote downtown Pacific growth. | 00:30:21 | |
So that's kind of our statement, but what? | 00:30:28 | |
What do what are we looking for in terms of a logo? | 00:30:32 | |
Like are we wanting? | 00:30:36 | |
It to be, you know. | 00:30:38 | |
We need some descriptive words to give to people, I think if we're gonna open this up to the public. | 00:30:41 | |
Yeah, that's. | 00:30:48 | |
So images that convey something about. | 00:30:51 | |
Homers, I suppose I mean. | 00:30:56 | |
Jason, you did a beautiful one for the Arts District and it had nothing to do with art. It was just. | 00:30:59 | |
Well, thank you. | 00:31:06 | |
The colors of our tunes with the Cypress tree and and it was stunning. With you it's it's yeah I. | 00:31:08 | |
My my suggestion on that is to just keep it. Keep it simple. Don't try and incorporate too many elements in it. I don't know I | 00:31:14 | |
mean. | 00:31:18 | |
If we go as far as. | 00:31:22 | |
Yeah, you're right. We did say it First, we were gonna do a contest. If we're kind of moving away from that, we just want to like, | 00:31:25 | |
give it to a couple of. | 00:31:28 | |
Graphic designers as say what they could come up with there, there is always the option of keeping let's just get it done, keeping | 00:31:34 | |
it in house. I can, I can help even just create one with a a friend of mine who's a graphic designer. | 00:31:39 | |
And do it that way just to throw that out there to. | 00:31:46 | |
Make things simple. If, if, if that helps. If you want to keep going down the road, we're going here. 250 bucks is definitely | 00:31:51 | |
affordable. | 00:31:56 | |
Happy to support that as well, but either way I would suggest just keeping it. | 00:32:01 | |
Keeping it as simple as possible so the logo received referring to. I could even show it here if if we want just to give some | 00:32:05 | |
context, but it's just a Cypress tree and some color and a pattern behind it. | 00:32:12 | |
And the and and the letters. | 00:32:19 | |
So, so think of a characteristic that will either define commerce or the area. | 00:32:24 | |
Or some something that you want to use to define us and then wrap it around to that. | 00:32:31 | |
I wouldn't try and incorporate too many things into it either way, but start with 1-2 elements at most. | 00:32:37 | |
And have talent be a part of it. | 00:32:43 | |
The palette that I used for for us, for the Arts District, Pacific Grove Council was Beach dune pallets. So we can go down that | 00:32:46 | |
road with it. We can go down. Cypress, Cypress Grove Palette, we can go down. | 00:32:53 | |
The colors of downtown, if there were such a thing. Palette, you know, something that you know represents Pacific Grove is what I | 00:33:00 | |
would suggest. | 00:33:04 | |
And would we want? | 00:33:08 | |
You know, we call this the bid, but it really. | 00:33:10 | |
It's the downtown Business Improvement District. Would we want that incorporated, you know? | 00:33:14 | |
Yeah, so. | 00:33:22 | |
Have a font specific that we use on everything or absolutely yes no. So I would I think that's. | 00:33:23 | |
So have standardized ponds, standardized pallets and and the logo that goes on everything. | 00:33:31 | |
As. | 00:33:38 | |
Yeah. | 00:33:42 | |
As your branding, branding, design, and that's, that's what you have cohesive throughout all of your internal materials and | 00:33:42 | |
outreach materials. | 00:33:47 | |
I. | 00:33:54 | |
I think the nice thing about a contest is that it generates some interest to the BID. | 00:33:55 | |
Because you know people will be hearing what the contest and. | 00:34:02 | |
I don't know. It would be very nice if we could recruit more regular attendees to the. | 00:34:06 | |
To the BID and get more interest and I'm just wondering if that would be? | 00:34:13 | |
The PR. | 00:34:17 | |
Thing. | 00:34:20 | |
I don't know. I I made a logo for Restaurant Week that we were going to have at one point. I don't know if we could do like a. | 00:34:22 | |
Did anyone? | 00:34:32 | |
I'll just send it to you guys. It just is a like a silhouette of. | 00:34:34 | |
Of downtown. | 00:34:40 | |
Liz, Liz, one of the things that came came to mind here thinking of this, is that the. | 00:34:42 | |
Help me remember this here. But when we when we were first starting the arts district you had a document that you created which | 00:34:48 | |
was defining your was outlining your. | 00:34:53 | |
Ideas for the Pacific Grove Art District. And on the front of that there was like a a bit of a drawing of a a downtown scene and I | 00:34:59 | |
think it was your block. Does that ring a bell? | 00:35:04 | |
Michaela did that. | 00:35:10 | |
Yeah, actually that's that. That comes to mind as a nice sort of icon for for the logo. | 00:35:11 | |
Shop fronts, was it that one? | 00:35:20 | |
Yes, yeah. | 00:35:23 | |
So something along those lines or this one is more bold and logo. Why you know? | 00:35:24 | |
So you can't see it, I will send it to you, but it's it's not actually. | 00:35:30 | |
A Pacific Grove, but it could be made to be Pacific Grove, and it's it's just silhouettes of buildings and then you know. | 00:35:35 | |
Something like that would be nice. And then just have it read right underneath it with a with one of our fonts that we agree on. | 00:35:43 | |
Business Improvement District, Pacific Grove. | 00:35:51 | |
You just can't have any specific businesses on it. You know, like this one is so great, but it does have, you know, all of the | 00:35:55 | |
names of all of our businesses on it. But I, you know, our block is so iconic. Yeah. Yeah. | 00:36:03 | |
That kind of thing so. | 00:36:10 | |
Like a silhouette kind of thing. | 00:36:12 | |
Thank you. | 00:36:15 | |
The. | 00:36:16 | |
The awnings and things that symbolize shoppers, you know, So yeah. | 00:36:17 | |
All artists that we think. | 00:36:23 | |
You know. | 00:36:25 | |
Something like. | 00:36:26 | |
You know, building outlines, silhouettes, line drawings, whatever. But not specific business. | 00:36:28 | |
I don't know, so I think we've got a few ideas. It's always good to have these informal discussions with this group. | 00:36:35 | |
I feel like we cover more. | 00:36:43 | |
Territory So. | 00:36:45 | |
The thing is though, is is coming up with a. | 00:36:47 | |
A decision, so so do we want to make it a contest or do we want to? | 00:36:51 | |
Yeah, do we want? So the options on the table are the contest. | 00:36:56 | |
Getting a graphic designer doing an online world. | 00:37:02 | |
So. | 00:37:06 | |
Well, just to highlight the obvious of the contest is I don't know. | 00:37:08 | |
I don't know how much of a hurry we're in for this, but if we do the contest, you know, we get all the benefits that Liz. | 00:37:12 | |
Highlighted there of the community participation. The downside is it's going to prolong things. | 00:37:19 | |
Several months or however long it takes. | 00:37:25 | |
I don't know that we're in any hurry to get it done. | 00:37:27 | |
Because I mean, I can't think of any particular. | 00:37:32 | |
Urgency that we have on this. | 00:37:35 | |
Umm. | 00:37:38 | |
You know, to be honest, we don't have an Instagram, we don't have a website. | 00:37:39 | |
We just put it at the top of our agenda right now, so. | 00:37:42 | |
And I for now, yeah. And that's the whole point was, I think. | 00:37:48 | |
Let let this hopefully be the. | 00:37:51 | |
First in a sort of turning point where we do consider the outward facing the ID a little bit more and the need to recruit people | 00:37:54 | |
and. | 00:37:59 | |
Has people have a voice and have, you know, we might. | 00:38:04 | |
Reach out to people more and be more relevant to people so. | 00:38:07 | |
So yeah, I think eventually would be super important. And needs to express values. It needs to express a, you know, a peppy nice | 00:38:12 | |
image of, you know, people that take action and do things and and. | 00:38:17 | |
You know. | 00:38:24 | |
Positive or positive? So where would we step forwards? Where would we if we did? We did a contest, a local contest? | 00:38:26 | |
I mean, I would think like the high school, the Arts Center. | 00:38:35 | |
Maybe the Arts Center is a huge one. Yeah, the Arts District has an e-mail list of 300 people. OK, FYI. So those might be the | 00:38:40 | |
obvious places to send it out to local graphic designers and businesses. I mean, it might be a feather in their cap to say and our | 00:38:47 | |
design was chosen is, you know, OK, winner of. | 00:38:54 | |
So it sounds like we're going with the contest idea. | 00:39:02 | |
It. | 00:39:08 | |
So you want to vote on that? | 00:39:09 | |
There a motion is any more to discuss or can we vote? | 00:39:13 | |
Well, I'll just, before we vote, I'll just. | 00:39:18 | |
Same like past experience with. | 00:39:21 | |
You know, anything artistic, it's so subjective and you're never going to get everyone to agree. | 00:39:24 | |
I kind of like just sort of the directed Keep it simple. | 00:39:29 | |
Here's the concept. Say commerce. We have to keep in mind there's other things besides restaurants and, you know, resale shops. | 00:39:34 | |
The contest seems. | 00:39:43 | |
Like we're just asking for. | 00:39:46 | |
It's definitely going to be less of a professional way to approach it, you know. Typically you would go to a professional firm for | 00:39:50 | |
a. | 00:39:54 | |
For a logo that just like Jason said it, it. | 00:39:58 | |
Connotes A. | 00:40:01 | |
To a particular concept. | 00:40:04 | |
So I think the contest is great and the engagement with the community is is great. | 00:40:08 | |
But it is going to be more difficult for sure and you might not get as professional with a product. | 00:40:13 | |
Well, let me, since Matt said that, let me Devil's advocate for a second and if you guys want to want to do it, do a contest I. | 00:40:18 | |
Full support of it doesn't matter to me either way, but. | 00:40:25 | |
Do we have to agree to use something that we get from the contest if we don't like any of them? There is a There is a line that I | 00:40:32 | |
found in other contests that says the Downtown Improvement District reverse reserves the right to modify the winning logo to | 00:40:38 | |
better fit the needs of the organization. | 00:40:44 | |
There you go. | 00:40:50 | |
Maybe. Maybe Matt will take it and send it to a graphic designer at the end of the contest and say retool it. | 00:40:51 | |
But but when? Why don't we do that? Why don't we do it and keep that in mind to to make us feel better about moving forward? Is | 00:41:00 | |
that, yeah, let's reserve that right and we can retool it as as needed to better serve our needs. But the community. | 00:41:07 | |
A rallying benefit that Liz is talking about sound sounds like. | 00:41:14 | |
Sounds like it couldn't hurt. | 00:41:19 | |
OK. | 00:41:22 | |
So maybe you and I, Liz, can brainstorm on some descriptive ideas of. | 00:41:24 | |
Kind of ideas for them and kind of put together this. | 00:41:31 | |
Sheets that we could, you know, send out to people. Sounds good to me, yeah. | 00:41:36 | |
Thanks. Stephanie, assume that was you, you just talking there, you mean like I said a parameters by which the participants. OK, | 00:41:42 | |
got it. Yeah. | 00:41:46 | |
OK. And should we give ourselves a timeline on that or should we just say that by the next meeting we can have a meeting, we'll | 00:41:51 | |
have a proposal so that we can send it out right away? OK. | 00:41:57 | |
I think it's pretty. I got a lot done on it. I think we just need to give. | 00:42:04 | |
Those. Those. | 00:42:09 | |
You know. | 00:42:12 | |
Do well, since this is a contest and we want to get participation, should we have prizes? | 00:42:14 | |
We'll have to pay. We'll have a monetary price. I think we can. I think Jenny said we could budget, we had budget to do, you know, | 00:42:22 | |
a monetary prize for the winning. | 00:42:27 | |
Logo. So should we get that decided next meeting? Yeah let's when we have the budget maybe we can look at the numbers and figure | 00:42:33 | |
out where that have a budget before we Yeah. And you could always, you know I'm happy to donate a gift card to you know. | 00:42:40 | |
Because I have our art kind of materials that might. | 00:42:48 | |
Be of interest to them. | 00:42:51 | |
OK. | 00:42:54 | |
OK, so. | 00:42:56 | |
We. | 00:42:58 | |
We'll figure that out the next one, yeah. | 00:42:59 | |
OK, so do we Do we have a motion to? | 00:43:03 | |
Approve the. | 00:43:08 | |
Subcommittee on. | 00:43:11 | |
Making a proposal for. | 00:43:13 | |
Competition for a logo. | 00:43:15 | |
We would like to make a motion. | 00:43:23 | |
Yes, I would And I'll second. | 00:43:26 | |
OK, Matt. | 00:43:31 | |
I would vote yes if we're voting. | 00:43:35 | |
That's, that's what I meant. Yes. Thank you and Jason. | 00:43:38 | |
Yes, I. | 00:43:42 | |
Aye, yeah. | 00:43:43 | |
OK. So thank you very much for that. OK, new business. | 00:43:47 | |
This agenda item number 8. | 00:43:52 | |
And ask if. | 00:43:55 | |
The board or any attending people have new business. | 00:43:58 | |
OK. | 00:44:06 | |
Any business updates from Advisory Board members then agenda item 9. | 00:44:08 | |
Usually we this is where we ask Jenny. So what's happening with that? Ohh right, Yeah. | 00:44:15 | |
So I think from what I've heard, I think the Chase building is going to be. | 00:44:21 | |
Going into escrow in the next week or two and the person who's buying it is intending on having apartments upstairs and two retail | 00:44:27 | |
spaces down below. | 00:44:33 | |
From what I've heard and Bank of America I think started. | 00:44:40 | |
Construction. | 00:44:43 | |
Into converting that space. | 00:44:45 | |
It looks like there might be some demo. | 00:44:47 | |
They're soon over at the where? The hotels. The hotel? Yeah. | 00:44:49 | |
You know, cordoned off the. | 00:44:55 | |
And the sidewalks there, so and I know 520 got their transformer but it was bad, so they were waiting for a new transformer and I | 00:44:57 | |
don't know if they got that yet. | 00:45:02 | |
Ohh yeah yeah. | 00:45:07 | |
Because they haven't been able to do. | 00:45:09 | |
You know, I think four of the units are spoken for, but they can't sell them or do anything until they have all their inspections. | 00:45:12 | |
The elevator, I mean, if you don't have power, you don't, you can't test anything. So I don't know where that stands. | 00:45:19 | |
OK. | 00:45:28 | |
Jenny has her finger on the pulse. We can save all these questions the next time, yeah? | 00:45:29 | |
I maybe I should? | 00:45:34 | |
Just update people on the parts list if you don't already know there was a City Council meeting. | 00:45:36 | |
21st of June and there were two options open to the Council and we had favored option B. However they went with option A and so. | 00:45:43 | |
But you know, in life you have to be optimistic. So I will tell you what what I know about it I. | 00:45:59 | |
The opposition that I. | 00:46:08 | |
You know, heard against this was that there's no guaranteed amenities in this plan. There's no guaranteed price. | 00:46:11 | |
For your cost, I should say in the plan, and that is a big concern. Obviously everyone wants to make that corner safe. There are | 00:46:20 | |
lots of different options, like at least three. | 00:46:26 | |
Before even, but they've gone with this one and so I think it was a disappointment that that the others were not given. | 00:46:33 | |
Incineration and also that. | 00:46:43 | |
There's, you know, we had mentioned that on that corner it is a wind tunnel. Wine glasses blow up. When we were just on the | 00:46:47 | |
sidewalk before we had the parklet bill, the wine glasses flew off the table. So people have a week break there it it will be | 00:46:55 | |
unusable. The guano problem as you know with all the seagull nesting there is, is a big problem. So that sort of thing and Laurie | 00:47:02 | |
McDonald did say that it is just under specified so that we shouldn't panic that maybe. | 00:47:10 | |
These things will be allowed. However, maybe they won't be allowed. So maybe we need to keep a little bit of an eye on things and | 00:47:17 | |
you know, we just want like for it to be usable, we would. | 00:47:24 | |
Like certain amenities. | 00:47:31 | |
We don't know about the cost. The mayor did say that some of the costs would be borne by the city, but that also suggests that the | 00:47:33 | |
businesses are so are going to be. | 00:47:39 | |
You know, having to pay as well. So and we don't know what those costs are. So those were the sort of disappointments for the | 00:47:46 | |
business community. | 00:47:50 | |
But you know, let's I think also there are no like stakeholders as part of the process. | 00:47:55 | |
Umm. | 00:48:03 | |
I think Luke Coletti said. Ohh. Some restaurant owners have been approached but did not want to go on record, and I just know of | 00:48:05 | |
one who is. | 00:48:10 | |
Asked about it and was very upset. | 00:48:15 | |
At the suggestion of losing his park list, so he declined to cooperate so. | 00:48:18 | |
I don't know. I mean I I we're hoping going forward that. | 00:48:23 | |
The restaurant owners on that block will be. | 00:48:28 | |
You know. | 00:48:32 | |
Part of the process. | 00:48:33 | |
Those are those are the insecurities that say that this is to be right now and we hope that. | 00:48:35 | |
You know it will. | 00:48:41 | |
Being resolved. | 00:48:43 | |
So that's there, Or is it memorizing everyone like? | 00:48:45 | |
Yikes. | 00:48:48 | |
Yeah, any other updates? | 00:48:51 | |
OK. | 00:48:55 | |
All right. I'm sorry, Liz, I I was just going to make a suggestion. | 00:48:56 | |
Regarding this and going forward and. | 00:49:01 | |
It's so. | 00:49:05 | |
From a public outreach and a, you know, sort of lobbying perspective. | 00:49:06 | |
I know the Chamber does a great job, but now with the Arts District, which is a. | 00:49:13 | |
You know a A at its core. You know a a business focused district or the HID the BID. | 00:49:20 | |
I think it would be who of all of these groups to work in partnership when things like this arise. | 00:49:29 | |
Umm. | 00:49:38 | |
I pay very, very close attention to a lot of things that go on with with the city and things like that, and obviously not only for | 00:49:39 | |
my clients. | 00:49:43 | |
But just because I'm generally interested in that and there seems to be a. | 00:49:48 | |
Fairly. | 00:49:55 | |
Aggressive push. | 00:49:56 | |
Thank you. | 00:49:59 | |
Umm. | 00:50:01 | |
What's the best word to make sure that anything that is going to change? | 00:50:02 | |
Pacific Grove. | 00:50:10 | |
That might favor the business community the the the brakes are put on. | 00:50:12 | |
Umm. | 00:50:18 | |
And I think that. | 00:50:20 | |
You know the the parklets and stuff like that are are certainly the way that it's gone about with some of the. | 00:50:23 | |
Issues that were raised by some of the council members and some of the folks on some of the boards and commissions. | 00:50:30 | |
I just would, I would caution our our, our bid and everybody else to be mindful of. | 00:50:37 | |
Of working together. | 00:50:45 | |
To let our position be known. | 00:50:48 | |
Because. | 00:50:50 | |
You know, like with parklets, you know it was the the word. Safety was used the word. | 00:50:52 | |
Fairness was used and. | 00:50:57 | |
But I also know that when the issues about the wildlife are being brought up. | 00:51:01 | |
Anything that is dealing with wildlife in Pacific Grove. | 00:51:08 | |
Is going to have to now go through a couple of additional committees. | 00:51:12 | |
To get approval. | 00:51:16 | |
With regards to anything, so Liz, your comment about making sure that the parklets are covered. | 00:51:18 | |
If it involves wildlife, the new wildlife subcommittee is you know you, you're going to have to move things through that and so. | 00:51:26 | |
Again, I I don't want to be alarmist, but I just wanted to to put that out there. | 00:51:35 | |
And and the council will listen to. | 00:51:40 | |
The larger voices, the more The more voices, the better for. | 00:51:43 | |
Things that benefit the business district to be heard and so I just I wanted to put that out there and by the way I love wildlife | 00:51:49 | |
and. | 00:51:53 | |
I don't want you to think that I'm, I'm against it or anything like that, but it's getting harder and harder to be able to. | 00:51:57 | |
Simply do business. | 00:52:04 | |
With some of the new rules and regulations that have been put in place. | 00:52:07 | |
Yeah, good. Good point, Steven. Zach, let me say one more thing and we're running out of time here, but. | 00:52:11 | |
I was going to. | 00:52:18 | |
Right. I received an e-mail from Bill about about that meeting, Bill Peak, and was going to respond to them with the suggestion of | 00:52:20 | |
how moving forward. | 00:52:24 | |
This shouldn't the the Planning Commission shouldn't be moving forward without input from the from the stakeholders. And you're | 00:52:30 | |
right there is there's a lot of. | 00:52:34 | |
While we're all on the same page, the chambers on the same page, we're on the same page. Ours just tries on the same page, even | 00:52:39 | |
get the EDC is on the same page. So yeah, having having a response instead of maybe just coming from me with that suggestion. | 00:52:45 | |
Of should come from all of us. I'm happy to draft an e-mail and get with everybody separately so we could all put our names on the | 00:52:52 | |
same kind of letter going to Bill and be a unified front of. | 00:52:57 | |
You know, telling them to. You know, be aware of of what all of these pro business, downtown, pro business entities are are | 00:53:03 | |
pushing for here. Stakeholders should be involved moving forward. | 00:53:09 | |
My take away from that is that a super group of business interests in town. | 00:53:18 | |
Should. | 00:53:26 | |
Well, could be a bonus in lobbying. | 00:53:27 | |
Our interests with the City Council, so I prefer Justice League, but OK, supergroup is fine. | 00:53:32 | |
Well, just yeah, just to say I I like that idea. | 00:53:42 | |
The thing is that every single group was for option. | 00:53:47 | |
B Yeah, except the HID who was not consulted. So I'm not sure that it made a huge difference, but I I think it's important. I | 00:53:50 | |
always think it's important to have organizing. | 00:53:56 | |
You know and I. | 00:54:03 | |
I I let my customers know. I said if you want to have a voice, please say, you know, please talk to the council and whatever, | 00:54:04 | |
whatever. I I think organising is always a good thing because that's how democracies work. We want people to express themselves | 00:54:10 | |
and especially stakeholders and interested people. I hope they don't leave us. | 00:54:16 | |
Happy I got a Jet. I know where I'll I'm happy to take lead on drafting that letter. I'll run it by as many of you as I can. | 00:54:23 | |
Moving forward, but I was planning on responding to Bill Peak anyway. On on on his e-mail to me on it. He's had some some | 00:54:30 | |
sympathies to the letter that I wrote to him leading up to it, so that's how we'll follow up. | 00:54:36 | |
OK. And I mean I had just have so much to say on, I mean don't get me on the top topical park list, but Steve I mean all the | 00:54:43 | |
options are safe by the way all the options. So I, I, you know. | 00:54:48 | |
There, that's a whole. That's a very easy discussion. Like wildlife, I don't think covering hurts wildlife, just covering the part | 00:54:54 | |
of it, that's all, you know, it's like. | 00:54:59 | |
You know, anyway. | 00:55:04 | |
No, no, you're absolutely right. And I agree. I agree with that 100%, But I I know for a fact on some other projects. | 00:55:07 | |
That anything that affects. | 00:55:15 | |
That is going to be brought up by some council members and certainly by the BNRC. | 00:55:18 | |
As everything now is being looked through, the lens of how does it affect wildlife? | 00:55:25 | |
And it's and again, like I said, I I love wildlife. But that's what's that's that's the what is being used to slow everything. | 00:55:32 | |
OK. All right. Well, all great stuff. This will all go on the next agenda so that we can actually have some time to talk about it, | 00:55:41 | |
because now we don't. So thank you, everybody. And we're adjourning the meeting at 9:31. | 00:55:47 | |
Yeah. | 00:55:55 | |
OK. Cheers. Have a good day. Thanks. | 00:55:57 |