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OK. Good afternoon. Welcome to the Traffic and Safety Commission. | 00:00:07 | |
Meeting for. | 00:00:11 | |
July the 25th. | 00:00:13 | |
It's 4:00 o'clock. | 00:00:14 | |
The meeting is being held virtually. It's also being. | 00:00:16 | |
Held on zoom. | 00:00:20 | |
And. | 00:00:22 | |
Welcome, Welcome to our meeting. | 00:00:25 | |
Chief, will you please? | 00:00:27 | |
Do a roster? Sure. Chair Munoz Flores present. | 00:00:29 | |
Commissioners, Proc. | 00:00:33 | |
Screening. | 00:00:36 | |
Brown. | 00:00:41 | |
Present. | 00:00:42 | |
Stern. | 00:00:44 | |
Present. | 00:00:46 | |
Zombie. | 00:00:46 | |
Here. | 00:00:47 | |
Chaos. | 00:00:48 | |
Ohh here. | 00:00:51 | |
Alright. | 00:00:52 | |
Thank you, Chief President accounted for. | 00:00:53 | |
Thank you, Chief. First, second item on our agenda is approval. | 00:00:56 | |
Of the agenda. | 00:01:00 | |
Any comments on the agenda? | 00:01:02 | |
Do you have a motion to approve? | 00:01:08 | |
I move to approve. | 00:01:10 | |
I'll second. | 00:01:11 | |
OK, we have a motion any. | 00:01:13 | |
Discussion. | 00:01:16 | |
And it was Brown and Gumby. | 00:01:19 | |
OK, so roll call. | 00:01:21 | |
Yes, please. | 00:01:23 | |
Commissioner Brown. | 00:01:24 | |
Yes. | 00:01:25 | |
Mr. Gumby, I. | 00:01:26 | |
Chair Munoz Flores Yes. | 00:01:28 | |
Commissioners Prock. | 00:01:31 | |
Greeting. | 00:01:33 | |
Yes, Stern. Yes, Jermas. | 00:01:34 | |
Yes. | 00:01:37 | |
Got. | 00:01:37 | |
OK. Item 3 on our agenda is approval of the Minutes. | 00:01:39 | |
Of the prior meetings, one is for April the 25th. | 00:01:42 | |
And the other is for May the 23rd. | 00:01:47 | |
That I prepared. | 00:01:50 | |
I do note we have received. | 00:01:52 | |
A couple of comments. | 00:01:56 | |
About some omissions. | 00:01:57 | |
And corrections and that will be. | 00:01:59 | |
Handled. | 00:02:02 | |
By me. | 00:02:03 | |
They they have been changed already. Thank you, Chief. | 00:02:05 | |
Umm. | 00:02:09 | |
Any discussion? I just had a correction for April 25th. | 00:02:11 | |
It's very minor. Put at the bottom, it says. Our next meeting was March 28th. | 00:02:17 | |
It should be stating May 23rd I believe. | 00:02:22 | |
OK. | 00:02:27 | |
OK. We'll make a note of that. Thank you. | 00:02:29 | |
Anybody else? | 00:02:31 | |
Since I was not a Commissioner at that. | 00:02:35 | |
Thank you for meeting. | 00:02:37 | |
Still vote on these minute. | 00:02:39 | |
You you can vote if you review them or you can abstain, whichever you choose. OK, because we have enough. We have a quorum. So | 00:02:42 | |
right, I just your vote, yeah. | 00:02:46 | |
Proper. Thank you, Chief. You're welcome. | 00:02:51 | |
Any other comments? | 00:02:55 | |
No, I have a motion to approve both minutes. | 00:02:57 | |
I'll move that. We approve the Minutes as corrected. | 00:03:02 | |
Road company chief? Yes, Sir, Commissioner Gumby, aye, Commissioner Prock. | 00:03:08 | |
Chair Munoz Flores Yes. | 00:03:14 | |
Commissioners greening, Commissioner Brown Stern, yes, and Shamus, yes. | 00:03:16 | |
70. | 00:03:23 | |
OK. | 00:03:24 | |
A general public comment. | 00:03:29 | |
2nd. | 00:03:32 | |
General public comment must deal with matters subject to the jurisdiction of the City. | 00:03:33 | |
And the traffic. | 00:03:38 | |
Safety Commission that are not on the regular agenda. | 00:03:39 | |
Comments from the public will be limited to 3 minutes and will not receive Traffic Safety Commission action. | 00:03:43 | |
Comments regarding items on the regular agenda shall be heard. | 00:03:48 | |
Prior to Traffic Safety commissions considerations. | 00:03:51 | |
Of such items at the time. | 00:03:54 | |
Such items are called whenever possible. | 00:03:57 | |
Written correspondence should be submitted to the Traffic Safety Commission. | 00:03:59 | |
In advance of the meeting. | 00:04:03 | |
To provide adequate time. | 00:04:04 | |
For its consideration. | 00:04:06 | |
And we have. | 00:04:09 | |
9 emails that we received since. | 00:04:10 | |
Our last meeting. | 00:04:14 | |
And the comments. | 00:04:17 | |
And be directed to them during the. | 00:04:19 | |
Open discussion by the public. | 00:04:22 | |
Any comments on that? | 00:04:25 | |
Chief beyond what I just said. | 00:04:27 | |
I just like to thank the community for the emails that they do send in to the Commission. They are very helpful. | 00:04:29 | |
So I appreciate their support and their cooperation and input. | 00:04:35 | |
Great. | 00:04:40 | |
Thank you, Chief. | 00:04:41 | |
Umm. | 00:04:43 | |
Alright, and we have one hand raised online. Anybody in the public would like to speak. | 00:04:44 | |
Wanna come up first? | 00:04:49 | |
Miss Garcia? | 00:04:52 | |
Bro this. | 00:05:00 | |
Either late this morning I think I emailed all of you my comment for this meeting and. | 00:05:02 | |
I I do my comments as though it were a PowerPoint presentation only because it's easy for me to do the text and get the | 00:05:11 | |
photographs and stuff so that people can really visually see what I'm talking about. So I'm just here just to talk about the | 00:05:18 | |
intersection of Congress, Lighthouse and Central Ave. that little hub right around the. | 00:05:25 | |
Post Office and Toasties and Grove St. | 00:05:33 | |
To ask consideration. | 00:05:37 | |
For either signage to alert the drivers that there are pedestrians and what have you. | 00:05:40 | |
And in my little document I sent you at Grove St. that that round circular area people do take advantage of. | 00:05:46 | |
Or have inclination to do their U turns right there. | 00:05:57 | |
Which is, you know, pretty dangerous because they're doing it with oncoming traffic. | 00:06:01 | |
And also, you know, there are the curb cuts. There are four of them. None of them are marked. | 00:06:06 | |
And again, I don't think there is really a a knowledge that. | 00:06:12 | |
The curb cuts are used for people with disabilities, whether it be the use of a cane, a Walker or in a wheelchair, people who are | 00:06:19 | |
visually impaired and so on. | 00:06:26 | |
And whether or not there can be markings like a crosswalk or something similar to that. | 00:06:34 | |
I don't know. | 00:06:40 | |
But anyway, I think it's a. | 00:06:42 | |
Simple solution, you know. Again, I'm just talking about signage and markings and what have you. We have a lot of children around | 00:06:44 | |
there because. | 00:06:48 | |
Caledonia Park is used for special events. | 00:06:53 | |
And there are also programs down there. I know moms with their babies go down there and do exercises and and what have you. | 00:06:56 | |
And the post office has that rear entrance where people will cross Central Ave. to get their mail and what have you and and that | 00:07:03 | |
corner going around Central again. I sent in a photograph of the blind spot because of that hedge. | 00:07:11 | |
And folks who want to cross the street right there really have to step out and look to see whether or not there are automobiles | 00:07:19 | |
coming around. | 00:07:23 | |
So you know, at some point in time would be great for you to consider, you know, doing something I think is very much needed and | 00:07:27 | |
it is a busy corner when you look at all the business establishment establishments that surround it. So thank you very much. Thank | 00:07:33 | |
you very much. | 00:07:38 | |
Did anyone receive the e-mail? No, I I didn't. Yeah, we we get the emails too. So I didn't get one this morning. So can you resend | 00:07:45 | |
that please for us? Yeah, I appreciate it. Maybe check your sent box. Maybe didn't go out. | 00:07:51 | |
Accept. | 00:07:56 | |
No worries. Thank you. | 00:08:00 | |
OK. | 00:08:02 | |
Thank you for your presentation and. | 00:08:02 | |
Really forward to receiving the e-mail. | 00:08:05 | |
Appreciate it. Thank you. | 00:08:07 | |
OK. | 00:08:11 | |
OK, now we'll go online. | 00:08:12 | |
Miss Dahmer. | 00:08:15 | |
You have the floor. | 00:08:17 | |
Thank you very much. | 00:08:19 | |
I will agree with Miss Garcia Carmelita about. | 00:08:21 | |
Coming around on Central for the post op Well, coming from the post office. Going around on Central and. | 00:08:26 | |
The Caledonia Park, it really needs something else because they're kids and bikes and everything else. | 00:08:34 | |
And it is one of those. | 00:08:41 | |
Strange intersection, so I agree with that. | 00:08:43 | |
The thing I raised my hand for is, I'm going to say please, new Commissioners, make sure your Mics are turned on and that you | 00:08:47 | |
speak directly in them, because. | 00:08:52 | |
Umm. | 00:08:57 | |
A couple of you, I couldn't even hear you say yes for being present. So thank you very much. | 00:08:59 | |
OK. Thank you for your comment. | 00:09:07 | |
Hey Miss Gianni, you have the floor. | 00:09:14 | |
Thank you. I wanted to express my appreciation for for two things. One, it is the new striping for the crosswalk at on the West | 00:09:17 | |
side of the intersection at. | 00:09:25 | |
Where Del, Monte and. | 00:09:33 | |
And Alder and Lighthouse come together that seems much more visible than than what was there before. I still don't feel | 00:09:35 | |
comfortable crossing and that at that. | 00:09:42 | |
Crosswalk but. | 00:09:50 | |
But it looks a lot bit safer and and I do hope. | 00:09:51 | |
Someday we will be able to get a stop sign there because I I that that's a very tricky intersection for cars. | 00:09:55 | |
And people and and then also I wanted to express my appreciation for the, the, the new stenciling on the rec trail for the | 00:10:05 | |
bicycles with the. | 00:10:12 | |
With the speed limit. | 00:10:19 | |
On there. | 00:10:21 | |
Umm. | 00:10:22 | |
I'm I'm hearing a lot of conversation about that because. | 00:10:23 | |
People can't believe that. | 00:10:27 | |
That people, that they bicyclists are all going 12 mph. | 00:10:29 | |
And and even. | 00:10:36 | |
Some people I'm, I'm out there monitoring wildlife. | 00:10:39 | |
Daily and so people will just stop and talk to me and and someone who is a PG resident. | 00:10:45 | |
I was just sure that the paved. | 00:10:55 | |
Paved part of the rec trail was intended for pedestrians whilst bicycles. | 00:10:59 | |
And other motorized vehicles, so. | 00:11:05 | |
Anyway, I think it's fabulous that we at least have something there that's getting people to pay some kind of attention and I do | 00:11:08 | |
hope that soon we will have. | 00:11:13 | |
A community service officer. | 00:11:19 | |
On a bike? | 00:11:22 | |
Who can really see what's going on down there? I it would just, I think. | 00:11:23 | |
Bring about a lot safer conditions. | 00:11:31 | |
Down there and we have so many wildlife issues that community service officers can be taken care of down there, which I know is in | 00:11:34 | |
the works. I don't know what the bicycles in the works and I think that's the only way they can really tell. | 00:11:40 | |
Ohh that. | 00:11:48 | |
I. | 00:11:49 | |
It could give progress that's being made. These are nice. | 00:11:51 | |
Big bold bicycle stencils with with with the speed limit. Fine on the ground where people see it. So thank you. | 00:11:55 | |
Thank you for your comment. | 00:12:06 | |
Thank you. And if I can, thank Mr. Go and his team for doing all that work that we're just. | 00:12:08 | |
Gave praise for us. So thank you very much. I see your team out there. Appreciate it. | 00:12:14 | |
I'm a freaking almost daily use user of that area. | 00:12:19 | |
I really think the speed limit and. | 00:12:23 | |
There's all this other. | 00:12:25 | |
Umm. | 00:12:27 | |
Markets, I think have been very, very much appreciated. | 00:12:28 | |
And hopefully uh. | 00:12:32 | |
We'll address the problem. | 00:12:34 | |
Hey, any other comments? | 00:12:37 | |
No. | 00:12:39 | |
OK, item 4, Commission and staff announcements. | 00:12:41 | |
The minutes for the July meeting for this meeting will be. | 00:12:44 | |
Prepared by Commissioner Shamus. | 00:12:47 | |
And we thank you for your service. | 00:12:49 | |
Subsection B Staff and commissioner meetings and attendance and items of interest. | 00:12:53 | |
To this Commission Council member. | 00:12:58 | |
Amelia. | 00:13:01 | |
It's like pulling up here. | 00:13:12 | |
Since I'm kind of short. | 00:13:13 | |
I think think the traffic commissioners for all your service appreciate all that. | 00:13:16 | |
So let me just tell you real quick on the. | 00:13:22 | |
There was a first reading amending the city. | 00:13:27 | |
Salary classification. | 00:13:32 | |
That was approved a 70 vote Accessory Dwelling units ordinance was going to be continued to August 2nd. | 00:13:34 | |
Requests for proposals for the coastal wild. | 00:13:45 | |
Life protection. | 00:13:49 | |
This was continued actually from July 5th. | 00:13:52 | |
That was approved. | 00:13:55 | |
The small. | 00:13:58 | |
This business recovery action plan was also. | 00:13:59 | |
Tables. | 00:14:04 | |
The energy savings assessment and resiliency was also tabled. | 00:14:06 | |
Umm. | 00:14:11 | |
The Sub City Public information and Community Engagement. | 00:14:13 | |
Was also tabled. | 00:14:18 | |
Umm. | 00:14:20 | |
The League of California Cities representatives was going to be approved by Councilman Nick Smith. Was going to be. | 00:14:22 | |
The one to represent us in the California League of California Cities, and I'm going to be the alternate. | 00:14:32 | |
To that meeting and actually in September, I believe it's 2020. | 00:14:37 | |
There won't be a council meeting on that time because all of us will be attending the League of California Cities. | 00:14:44 | |
Umm. | 00:14:50 | |
Also. | 00:14:52 | |
The concept review of the housing proposal. | 00:14:53 | |
In regards to the city, parking lot between Lighthouse and Laurel was continued. | 00:14:56 | |
Table. | 00:15:02 | |
And umm. | 00:15:03 | |
The Pacific Growth Public Transportation past, present and future looking also was just presented by Councilman Luke Colletti, and | 00:15:05 | |
I joined in on that conversation. | 00:15:11 | |
And the reason why things were so, so many were tabled as we had some personnel closed session items. | 00:15:19 | |
At the beginning. | 00:15:26 | |
And at the end of the. | 00:15:27 | |
Council meeting in the that's what. That's why, well a lot of things were continued. | 00:15:29 | |
If you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer them. | 00:15:34 | |
Commissioners. | 00:15:37 | |
Thank you very much. OK. Thank you. | 00:15:39 | |
Any amount C. | 00:15:44 | |
Biking pedestrian committee. | 00:15:45 | |
Commissioner Stern. | 00:15:47 | |
So TAMC did not have a bike and pedestrian committee meeting in June, so no updates this month. | 00:15:49 | |
Thank you so much. | 00:15:58 | |
Discussion on written public comment agenda procedure Chief. | 00:15:59 | |
Yes. So thank you, Mr. Chair. So moving forward, Commissioners, just wanted to point out and to the community that you may see a | 00:16:05 | |
change in how our agenda looks. | 00:16:10 | |
We're going to streamline and streamline it, Oh my God, streamline it and make it similar to the other boards and commissions. So | 00:16:15 | |
it'll be public written, public comments and it'll be all in one link. | 00:16:20 | |
Not all separate like we do it now. | 00:16:27 | |
Thank you, Chief. Thank you. | 00:16:29 | |
Discussion on Joint Commission working group concept. | 00:16:31 | |
Chief Yes, thank you again, Mr. Chair. So. | 00:16:34 | |
This was brought up. | 00:16:38 | |
At one of our subcommittee meetings for the goals subcommittee about a potential for communicating better with other board | 00:16:40 | |
members, so. | 00:16:45 | |
I floated the idea with the city manager and he was supportive of it and then we I vetted it with the city attorney. | 00:16:50 | |
So the idea of the concept is it's on a voluntary basis that one member. | 00:16:58 | |
From each board or Commission. | 00:17:03 | |
We'll meet at a cadence of the group's choosing. | 00:17:05 | |
And they'll discuss programs, projects, issues, or concerns that are being discussed on their individual boards. | 00:17:08 | |
And then that individual board member will bring it back to like so for example, if Mr. Gumby was our representative here, he | 00:17:15 | |
would go to that meeting and then bring back any of the issues from the other boards and commissions that are relating to Traffic | 00:17:20 | |
Safety Commission here. | 00:17:25 | |
And again, it would be voluntary. | 00:17:31 | |
I did meet with each of the staff liaisons and they're going to bring bringing this concept to their boards to see who would like | 00:17:33 | |
to participate. | 00:17:37 | |
And once we have that set of people that are interested. | 00:17:42 | |
We will. I will host one meeting, the first meeting. | 00:17:48 | |
And then turn it over to the group of individuals so it's only one person from each Commission, so there's no Brown Act violation. | 00:17:51 | |
And so that's needs to be made clear and I will do this probably in October to give all of the other staff liaisons the | 00:17:59 | |
opportunity to come before their boards. | 00:18:03 | |
So I don't if there's any comments or questions about that. May wanna go out to public comment for this one as well. | 00:18:08 | |
And this is for information only or should we any selection at this time? | 00:18:15 | |
If we would like to do it, yeah, this would be something we would could discuss and then select somebody here so I can move | 00:18:20 | |
forward with it, OK. | 00:18:24 | |
Please, sorry, would you like to go to public comment for the public? Yes, public comment. | 00:18:30 | |
Please. | 00:18:35 | |
Anybody here miss Garcia? | 00:18:37 | |
No, OK. | 00:18:39 | |
Miss Dahmer. | 00:18:41 | |
Yes, thank you, Chief. I think you came up with an excellent idea because the boards. | 00:18:43 | |
Commissions and. | 00:18:50 | |
And committees do not. | 00:18:51 | |
Speak with each other and they really should. So I think that that's an excellent idea. There should be more. | 00:18:55 | |
Communication between them because they do have. | 00:19:02 | |
Have items that come before, one that really concerns many others and. | 00:19:06 | |
To have just one member of each one meet and discuss them would be a step forward, I think. | 00:19:12 | |
So kudos. Thank you. | 00:19:20 | |
Thank you. | 00:19:23 | |
Any other public comment? | 00:19:27 | |
I see no other hands raised, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Chief. | 00:19:29 | |
Councillor. | 00:19:32 | |
For sure, yeah. Again, a brilliant idea by our Chief who's constantly thinking about these cool things. | 00:19:33 | |
One of the things I wanted to ask you chief in it and just to emphasize this, this body will not be making any decisions, correct? | 00:19:40 | |
That is correct. And the meetings will there. They are going to be a, it's a working group. They'll be called a working group. | 00:19:46 | |
It won't be agendized. There will. They will not be. | 00:19:53 | |
Televised or anything like that, it's just gonna be. | 00:19:57 | |
A group that meets together. | 00:20:00 | |
At a location that may be the library or a place of their choosing. | 00:20:02 | |
Yeah, I thought that would be important for the record. So thank you. Thank you. | 00:20:06 | |
Any other comment? | 00:20:12 | |
No. | 00:20:15 | |
OK and. | 00:20:15 | |
Brown at e-mail Reminders Chief. | 00:20:18 | |
Is anyone interested in serving on that position for this board? | 00:20:20 | |
Share I I thought nobody was going to discuss it today. | 00:20:26 | |
Anybody interested in serving on this important? | 00:20:31 | |
Opportunity. | 00:20:34 | |
I nominate Commissioner Gumby as it was his idea and I think he has some interest in it. | 00:20:36 | |
If you want to accept, not sure. | 00:20:44 | |
I I would. | 00:20:47 | |
Participate. Yes. | 00:20:49 | |
OK. | 00:20:50 | |
Any other? Anyone else interested? | 00:20:52 | |
In battling it out with Commissioner Cumby. | 00:20:54 | |
No. Alright, we should help me. Got it. Thank you. Thank you. | 00:20:56 | |
OK, Brown, act e-mail reminders. | 00:21:02 | |
Yes. So thank you again, Mr. Chair. So we have a new member, so I know she has to go through some training, although she's very | 00:21:06 | |
well versed in the Brown Act, but just a reminder that when we are sending emails. | 00:21:12 | |
You need to send it to the Traffic Safety Commission e-mail. | 00:21:18 | |
Everyone will see it, but nobody else can reply back and forth so. | 00:21:21 | |
Be careful on the communications that we're having back and forth. | 00:21:25 | |
Thank you very much, Chief. | 00:21:32 | |
Seeing public hearings? None. | 00:21:35 | |
Unfinished business discussion of the requested and prohibit overnight parking on the seaward side. | 00:21:38 | |
Ocean view from 17th St. to Asilomar Commander. | 00:21:45 | |
Thank you. | 00:21:51 | |
This is why I believe it was on the May 23rd meeting. Unfortunately, the chief and I were unable to attend on that. | 00:21:52 | |
Uh. | 00:21:58 | |
This was brought up then and what we were really looking for was to present the information to the Traffic Safety Commission. | 00:21:59 | |
To let you know that that was something that we were looking into moving forward with. | 00:22:06 | |
Because as written, the the municipal codes are a little confusing. | 00:22:10 | |
And it ends up creating. We do get a lot of complaints into the department, especially at night with overnight camping along there | 00:22:14 | |
and certain areas. As it stands right now, you actually can park there overnight. | 00:22:20 | |
Not necessarily camp, but you can park there overnight. | 00:22:26 | |
And enforcing some of these issues when you have. | 00:22:30 | |
Someone parked in one of the smaller campers. If they don't answer the door or come out and let officers know, we can't. | 00:22:33 | |
We can issue a parking citation, but we can't eliminate them from camping if they just don't come to the door. We can't, like | 00:22:42 | |
break in and make them leave or towed away. | 00:22:46 | |
So if we eliminate the parking along. | 00:22:50 | |
The C word side. | 00:22:53 | |
And make it even throughout the entire city. Instead of just having these little pockets, we eliminate that issue altogether, and | 00:22:54 | |
it would be from midnight to five. | 00:22:58 | |
So we are aware that this will we will be going to the Planning Commission. | 00:23:02 | |
And then potentially with the LCP that we may need to get with this. | 00:23:07 | |
And we'll be working, Mr. Sidor, with that. | 00:23:11 | |
So we just wanted to give that update, make sure that traffic Commission was aware because it is a parking issue within the city. | 00:23:14 | |
Thank you, Commander. | 00:23:20 | |
Any public. | 00:23:22 | |
Public. | 00:23:24 | |
If I could just make a comment, so one of the other comments that we had during that meeting. | 00:23:26 | |
Was that we were made aware of the city of Santa Cruz and a there. | 00:23:33 | |
Parking prohibition that had just been approved by the Coastal Commission there had gone a lot of back and forth. | 00:23:39 | |
And one of our concerns and one of our suggestions, was to try to emulate, you know, work with or see. | 00:23:47 | |
The ordinance that the city of Santa Cruz was able to come up with, that was something that the Coastal Commission was OK with. | 00:23:55 | |
So we don't keep going through the try to reinvent the wheel again. | 00:24:04 | |
Sorry, just a comment. | 00:24:09 | |
Thank you. | 00:24:10 | |
OK. Thank you. | 00:24:12 | |
Any public comment? | 00:24:13 | |
Miss Garcia, anything here? No. OK, Miss. | 00:24:15 | |
Miss Dahmer. | 00:24:18 | |
Thank you. | 00:24:21 | |
And thank you for. | 00:24:22 | |
I mean, I wrote another e-mail dealing with because this one really does need a CDP and approval of the Coastal Commission to | 00:24:25 | |
limit any kind of. | 00:24:29 | |
Coastal access. | 00:24:34 | |
Even if it's at night time. | 00:24:35 | |
And that is why I sent you all the city of Santa Cruz information too, because it had passed. One very interesting thing if you | 00:24:37 | |
didn't go through. | 00:24:42 | |
All of that Coastal Commission hearing was they had because. | 00:24:46 | |
Unfortunately, those overnight campers are. | 00:24:52 | |
That park there and put their refuse and everything else. | 00:24:55 | |
Are also their low income coastal access. | 00:24:59 | |
And So what the city of Santa Cruz did is a mitigating measure is they have several safe parking spaces. Like We haven't starve 1 | 00:25:04 | |
Starfish that only takes care of like 5 women in their cars or something. | 00:25:11 | |
Well, they. | 00:25:19 | |
Have a whole lot. | 00:25:20 | |
And over 20 some odd spaces that has services and things for that. So if you haven't read that Santa Cruz. | 00:25:21 | |
The Coastal Commission because they had to amend their LCP. | 00:25:30 | |
Their local coastal program. | 00:25:33 | |
And it had to be accepted so. | 00:25:36 | |
Very definitely look through that material because obviously Pacific Grove doesn't have. | 00:25:39 | |
A safe space for these people. | 00:25:45 | |
An alternative. | 00:25:49 | |
And that is going to have to be worked out too, I would imagine. | 00:25:51 | |
So I'm very glad that the planning department well Joe Sidor. | 00:25:55 | |
Is involved in this now and yes, it needs to go to the Planning Commission, so thank you very much. | 00:25:59 | |
Thank you. | 00:26:09 | |
If I could make a comment, we did. We did discuss that and and while we won't go into detail now, but we believe we have at least | 00:26:11 | |
one location. | 00:26:16 | |
That is potential. | 00:26:22 | |
And and maybe some other other locations too. So it's something that we did, we did address. | 00:26:24 | |
Are also this specifically is on ocean view. Does this also include sunset too? OK just to confirm. Thank you. | 00:26:30 | |
Any other public comment? | 00:26:41 | |
I see no other hands, but may we go backwards? I do have a couple more staff announcements if that's possible, so just wanted to | 00:26:43 | |
let the community know that. | 00:26:48 | |
We have the Summer Lights program coming up. | 00:26:53 | |
February. | 00:26:56 | |
I'm sorry. Friday, July 28th, this Friday coming up is the pet parade that starts at 2:00. O'clock starts at Caledonia Park. So | 00:26:58 | |
that's a great fun event. | 00:27:02 | |
This Thursday night we have our our first. | 00:27:07 | |
Jewel in the park or park music and the jewel Boots and Blazers barn dance. That's from 6:00 to 9:00 o'clock at. | 00:27:11 | |
No, don't take that back. | 00:27:19 | |
That's from 5:30. | 00:27:22 | |
There's also a line dancing at Chautauqua Hall on Friday the 28th. | 00:27:25 | |
6:00 to 9:00 o'clock, that's. | 00:27:29 | |
That is the boots and Blazers. | 00:27:32 | |
Barn dance. | 00:27:34 | |
There'll be a line dancing Snacks, Emerge Dice on Saturday the 29th. There will be a an event at Lovers Point. | 00:27:36 | |
That starts at 11:00 o'clock and ends at. | 00:27:45 | |
5:00 o'clock or 9:00 O'clock. We have two different times, and then it will culminate with a light show at Lovers Point Park on | 00:27:48 | |
the pier. | 00:27:52 | |
In addition to that, we have. | 00:27:57 | |
National Night Out, which is the police event that's August 1st from 5:00 to 7:00 at Caledonia Park. | 00:27:59 | |
And this year, our theme is Coastal Wildlife Awareness. | 00:28:06 | |
So we invite the community to come out for a night out on crime and August 15th to the 18th is the events we have for Car week. | 00:28:09 | |
We have 4 events in the city, so those are fun events. We'll invite the community out and finally moving forward, Commander | 00:28:19 | |
Santos, who is going to be the staff liaison to this board. | 00:28:24 | |
We are getting a new commander, so. | 00:28:30 | |
I took this, so take it off his plate. But we'll be dispersing some additional responsibilities now, and so he'll be your liaison. | 00:28:32 | |
I will absolutely be here if you need me and and be here to fill in for the Commander. So thank you for all of you. I appreciate | 00:28:39 | |
all of your hard work and your commitment and your dedication and all of the hours of volunteer. Really. Really. | 00:28:46 | |
Appreciate all of you. Thank you. | 00:28:53 | |
Thank you, Chief. | 00:28:55 | |
Comments from. | 00:28:58 | |
Commissioners. | 00:28:59 | |
Yeah, I just wanted to add a comment, I think. | 00:29:01 | |
Commander and chief. | 00:29:04 | |
We had a very robust discussion about this issue. | 00:29:06 | |
With regard to parking. | 00:29:10 | |
Along the coastal areas in the last meeting and it might be advisable if you don't recall that to. | 00:29:12 | |
You know. | 00:29:19 | |
Listen to or watch the last meetings discussion. | 00:29:19 | |
We are all very concerned about that and do realize that. | 00:29:24 | |
We we don't have to reinvent the wheel here. | 00:29:28 | |
And we won't be in a good position if we do. | 00:29:31 | |
Given the attitude that was taken by the Coastal Commission plus. | 00:29:34 | |
Taking in consideration, you know, the importance of protecting access to the coastal zone. | 00:29:38 | |
So thank you very much and thank you very much, Chief. | 00:29:45 | |
For all of your work, it's been fantastic. Thank you. I appreciate it. | 00:29:48 | |
Commissioners, any other comment? | 00:29:54 | |
No. | 00:29:58 | |
OK, umm. | 00:29:59 | |
Let's see. New business? None. | 00:30:01 | |
Report from the subcommittee Commissioner Gumby. | 00:30:04 | |
Yes, we, we last meeting we actually had a great discussion. | 00:30:07 | |
And public works director Mr. Go was able to attend. And I think we. | 00:30:13 | |
Able to solve a lot of our concerns we were still in our process of creating. | 00:30:19 | |
Or fulfilling our goals through many objectives, both for vehicle traffic, bicycle traffic and pedestrians. | 00:30:27 | |
And we're in the process of. | 00:30:39 | |
Getting those in a in a hierarchical order and A and calling them down to the most. | 00:30:44 | |
The most. | 00:30:51 | |
Concerning for us and so we're still in that process and hope to bring. | 00:30:53 | |
The document to the to the Commission. | 00:30:57 | |
Yeah. Maybe in a couple of months. We'll we'll see. Anyway, thank you. OK. Thank you. | 00:31:02 | |
Any other comments, Commissioners? | 00:31:07 | |
Yes. | 00:31:09 | |
Mr. Schiller. | 00:31:10 | |
Can you just describe what that is? Your subcommittee? Sure. So made-up of a subcommittee to. | 00:31:12 | |
In the overall overarching. | 00:31:23 | |
Goal of safety within Pacific Grove. | 00:31:26 | |
We broke it down into 3 categories, Vehicle Safety, Bicycle Safety and Pedestrian safety. | 00:31:29 | |
And. | 00:31:36 | |
Then. | 00:31:37 | |
To accomplish each of those goals, those goals we came up with various objectives for in each category. So we discussed those we | 00:31:39 | |
we looked at ways of. | 00:31:45 | |
Of completing those those objectives many there there are some that are it may be an enforcement issue, there may be a public | 00:31:51 | |
works maintenance issue that we were able actually to resolve. Many of those just working with with public works and the police. | 00:31:59 | |
So anyway so we're we're in the process of. | 00:32:07 | |
Compiling those, coming up with a like I said, a a group. | 00:32:16 | |
For each and trying to pare it down to to bite sized pieces and. | 00:32:21 | |
Vote to bring that to the full Commission. | 00:32:28 | |
Umm. | 00:32:30 | |
Near, you know, the next few months. | 00:32:32 | |
And hopefully we can agree on on those objectives and I would imagine the next step was present those. | 00:32:34 | |
Objectives to the City Council for hopefully their. | 00:32:44 | |
Endorsement. | 00:32:48 | |
And go from there. | 00:32:49 | |
I don't think that's necessary, but you can if you choose to. It's your board, it's your Commission, so you know you. This is a | 00:32:54 | |
something I presented. | 00:32:58 | |
To this body, I think it was back in February when the new Commission came on. | 00:33:03 | |
Is to create a goal for the Traffic Safety Commission. And So what happened was we created a subcommittee of three members, which | 00:33:08 | |
is. | 00:33:12 | |
Commissioner Stern, Commissioner Brown and Commissioner Gumby. | 00:33:16 | |
And they've been meeting with the commander, myself and Mr. Go to go over and try to create a a goal. We we we pretty much have | 00:33:18 | |
one. | 00:33:22 | |
Overarching goal safety and with different like Commissioner Gummy said, different subsets of it for traffic. | 00:33:27 | |
For vehicles, for pedestrians and for cyclists. | 00:33:34 | |
And so we created tasks and. | 00:33:37 | |
And and I think. | 00:33:40 | |
I think you guys are pretty close to coming back to the Commission to bring it forward and. | 00:33:41 | |
And to present it. | 00:33:45 | |
So they've been doing fantastic work. | 00:33:47 | |
So thank you all for the extra work you've been doing. | 00:33:49 | |
I I. | 00:33:53 | |
Personally, I would like to present it to the City Council and. | 00:33:54 | |
If nothing else at least gets their endorsement of it, whether or not it goes anywhere. | 00:34:00 | |
Beyond that, we'll see. | 00:34:05 | |
Chief. | 00:34:11 | |
Commander. | 00:34:12 | |
Directly go any comments? | 00:34:13 | |
You have. | 00:34:16 | |
No. | 00:34:17 | |
OK, that is the end of our agenda adjournment at. | 00:34:18 | |
434. | 00:34:22 | |
Thank you. Thank you all. Thanks. | 00:34:23 | |
Thanks all. | 00:34:25 |
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Press. | 00:00:03 | |
OK. Good afternoon. Welcome to the Traffic and Safety Commission. | 00:00:07 | |
Meeting for. | 00:00:11 | |
July the 25th. | 00:00:13 | |
It's 4:00 o'clock. | 00:00:14 | |
The meeting is being held virtually. It's also being. | 00:00:16 | |
Held on zoom. | 00:00:20 | |
And. | 00:00:22 | |
Welcome, Welcome to our meeting. | 00:00:25 | |
Chief, will you please? | 00:00:27 | |
Do a roster? Sure. Chair Munoz Flores present. | 00:00:29 | |
Commissioners, Proc. | 00:00:33 | |
Screening. | 00:00:36 | |
Brown. | 00:00:41 | |
Present. | 00:00:42 | |
Stern. | 00:00:44 | |
Present. | 00:00:46 | |
Zombie. | 00:00:46 | |
Here. | 00:00:47 | |
Chaos. | 00:00:48 | |
Ohh here. | 00:00:51 | |
Alright. | 00:00:52 | |
Thank you, Chief President accounted for. | 00:00:53 | |
Thank you, Chief. First, second item on our agenda is approval. | 00:00:56 | |
Of the agenda. | 00:01:00 | |
Any comments on the agenda? | 00:01:02 | |
Do you have a motion to approve? | 00:01:08 | |
I move to approve. | 00:01:10 | |
I'll second. | 00:01:11 | |
OK, we have a motion any. | 00:01:13 | |
Discussion. | 00:01:16 | |
And it was Brown and Gumby. | 00:01:19 | |
OK, so roll call. | 00:01:21 | |
Yes, please. | 00:01:23 | |
Commissioner Brown. | 00:01:24 | |
Yes. | 00:01:25 | |
Mr. Gumby, I. | 00:01:26 | |
Chair Munoz Flores Yes. | 00:01:28 | |
Commissioners Prock. | 00:01:31 | |
Greeting. | 00:01:33 | |
Yes, Stern. Yes, Jermas. | 00:01:34 | |
Yes. | 00:01:37 | |
Got. | 00:01:37 | |
OK. Item 3 on our agenda is approval of the Minutes. | 00:01:39 | |
Of the prior meetings, one is for April the 25th. | 00:01:42 | |
And the other is for May the 23rd. | 00:01:47 | |
That I prepared. | 00:01:50 | |
I do note we have received. | 00:01:52 | |
A couple of comments. | 00:01:56 | |
About some omissions. | 00:01:57 | |
And corrections and that will be. | 00:01:59 | |
Handled. | 00:02:02 | |
By me. | 00:02:03 | |
They they have been changed already. Thank you, Chief. | 00:02:05 | |
Umm. | 00:02:09 | |
Any discussion? I just had a correction for April 25th. | 00:02:11 | |
It's very minor. Put at the bottom, it says. Our next meeting was March 28th. | 00:02:17 | |
It should be stating May 23rd I believe. | 00:02:22 | |
OK. | 00:02:27 | |
OK. We'll make a note of that. Thank you. | 00:02:29 | |
Anybody else? | 00:02:31 | |
Since I was not a Commissioner at that. | 00:02:35 | |
Thank you for meeting. | 00:02:37 | |
Still vote on these minute. | 00:02:39 | |
You you can vote if you review them or you can abstain, whichever you choose. OK, because we have enough. We have a quorum. So | 00:02:42 | |
right, I just your vote, yeah. | 00:02:46 | |
Proper. Thank you, Chief. You're welcome. | 00:02:51 | |
Any other comments? | 00:02:55 | |
No, I have a motion to approve both minutes. | 00:02:57 | |
I'll move that. We approve the Minutes as corrected. | 00:03:02 | |
Road company chief? Yes, Sir, Commissioner Gumby, aye, Commissioner Prock. | 00:03:08 | |
Chair Munoz Flores Yes. | 00:03:14 | |
Commissioners greening, Commissioner Brown Stern, yes, and Shamus, yes. | 00:03:16 | |
70. | 00:03:23 | |
OK. | 00:03:24 | |
A general public comment. | 00:03:29 | |
2nd. | 00:03:32 | |
General public comment must deal with matters subject to the jurisdiction of the City. | 00:03:33 | |
And the traffic. | 00:03:38 | |
Safety Commission that are not on the regular agenda. | 00:03:39 | |
Comments from the public will be limited to 3 minutes and will not receive Traffic Safety Commission action. | 00:03:43 | |
Comments regarding items on the regular agenda shall be heard. | 00:03:48 | |
Prior to Traffic Safety commissions considerations. | 00:03:51 | |
Of such items at the time. | 00:03:54 | |
Such items are called whenever possible. | 00:03:57 | |
Written correspondence should be submitted to the Traffic Safety Commission. | 00:03:59 | |
In advance of the meeting. | 00:04:03 | |
To provide adequate time. | 00:04:04 | |
For its consideration. | 00:04:06 | |
And we have. | 00:04:09 | |
9 emails that we received since. | 00:04:10 | |
Our last meeting. | 00:04:14 | |
And the comments. | 00:04:17 | |
And be directed to them during the. | 00:04:19 | |
Open discussion by the public. | 00:04:22 | |
Any comments on that? | 00:04:25 | |
Chief beyond what I just said. | 00:04:27 | |
I just like to thank the community for the emails that they do send in to the Commission. They are very helpful. | 00:04:29 | |
So I appreciate their support and their cooperation and input. | 00:04:35 | |
Great. | 00:04:40 | |
Thank you, Chief. | 00:04:41 | |
Umm. | 00:04:43 | |
Alright, and we have one hand raised online. Anybody in the public would like to speak. | 00:04:44 | |
Wanna come up first? | 00:04:49 | |
Miss Garcia? | 00:04:52 | |
Bro this. | 00:05:00 | |
Either late this morning I think I emailed all of you my comment for this meeting and. | 00:05:02 | |
I I do my comments as though it were a PowerPoint presentation only because it's easy for me to do the text and get the | 00:05:11 | |
photographs and stuff so that people can really visually see what I'm talking about. So I'm just here just to talk about the | 00:05:18 | |
intersection of Congress, Lighthouse and Central Ave. that little hub right around the. | 00:05:25 | |
Post Office and Toasties and Grove St. | 00:05:33 | |
To ask consideration. | 00:05:37 | |
For either signage to alert the drivers that there are pedestrians and what have you. | 00:05:40 | |
And in my little document I sent you at Grove St. that that round circular area people do take advantage of. | 00:05:46 | |
Or have inclination to do their U turns right there. | 00:05:57 | |
Which is, you know, pretty dangerous because they're doing it with oncoming traffic. | 00:06:01 | |
And also, you know, there are the curb cuts. There are four of them. None of them are marked. | 00:06:06 | |
And again, I don't think there is really a a knowledge that. | 00:06:12 | |
The curb cuts are used for people with disabilities, whether it be the use of a cane, a Walker or in a wheelchair, people who are | 00:06:19 | |
visually impaired and so on. | 00:06:26 | |
And whether or not there can be markings like a crosswalk or something similar to that. | 00:06:34 | |
I don't know. | 00:06:40 | |
But anyway, I think it's a. | 00:06:42 | |
Simple solution, you know. Again, I'm just talking about signage and markings and what have you. We have a lot of children around | 00:06:44 | |
there because. | 00:06:48 | |
Caledonia Park is used for special events. | 00:06:53 | |
And there are also programs down there. I know moms with their babies go down there and do exercises and and what have you. | 00:06:56 | |
And the post office has that rear entrance where people will cross Central Ave. to get their mail and what have you and and that | 00:07:03 | |
corner going around Central again. I sent in a photograph of the blind spot because of that hedge. | 00:07:11 | |
And folks who want to cross the street right there really have to step out and look to see whether or not there are automobiles | 00:07:19 | |
coming around. | 00:07:23 | |
So you know, at some point in time would be great for you to consider, you know, doing something I think is very much needed and | 00:07:27 | |
it is a busy corner when you look at all the business establishment establishments that surround it. So thank you very much. Thank | 00:07:33 | |
you very much. | 00:07:38 | |
Did anyone receive the e-mail? No, I I didn't. Yeah, we we get the emails too. So I didn't get one this morning. So can you resend | 00:07:45 | |
that please for us? Yeah, I appreciate it. Maybe check your sent box. Maybe didn't go out. | 00:07:51 | |
Accept. | 00:07:56 | |
No worries. Thank you. | 00:08:00 | |
OK. | 00:08:02 | |
Thank you for your presentation and. | 00:08:02 | |
Really forward to receiving the e-mail. | 00:08:05 | |
Appreciate it. Thank you. | 00:08:07 | |
OK. | 00:08:11 | |
OK, now we'll go online. | 00:08:12 | |
Miss Dahmer. | 00:08:15 | |
You have the floor. | 00:08:17 | |
Thank you very much. | 00:08:19 | |
I will agree with Miss Garcia Carmelita about. | 00:08:21 | |
Coming around on Central for the post op Well, coming from the post office. Going around on Central and. | 00:08:26 | |
The Caledonia Park, it really needs something else because they're kids and bikes and everything else. | 00:08:34 | |
And it is one of those. | 00:08:41 | |
Strange intersection, so I agree with that. | 00:08:43 | |
The thing I raised my hand for is, I'm going to say please, new Commissioners, make sure your Mics are turned on and that you | 00:08:47 | |
speak directly in them, because. | 00:08:52 | |
Umm. | 00:08:57 | |
A couple of you, I couldn't even hear you say yes for being present. So thank you very much. | 00:08:59 | |
OK. Thank you for your comment. | 00:09:07 | |
Hey Miss Gianni, you have the floor. | 00:09:14 | |
Thank you. I wanted to express my appreciation for for two things. One, it is the new striping for the crosswalk at on the West | 00:09:17 | |
side of the intersection at. | 00:09:25 | |
Where Del, Monte and. | 00:09:33 | |
And Alder and Lighthouse come together that seems much more visible than than what was there before. I still don't feel | 00:09:35 | |
comfortable crossing and that at that. | 00:09:42 | |
Crosswalk but. | 00:09:50 | |
But it looks a lot bit safer and and I do hope. | 00:09:51 | |
Someday we will be able to get a stop sign there because I I that that's a very tricky intersection for cars. | 00:09:55 | |
And people and and then also I wanted to express my appreciation for the, the, the new stenciling on the rec trail for the | 00:10:05 | |
bicycles with the. | 00:10:12 | |
With the speed limit. | 00:10:19 | |
On there. | 00:10:21 | |
Umm. | 00:10:22 | |
I'm I'm hearing a lot of conversation about that because. | 00:10:23 | |
People can't believe that. | 00:10:27 | |
That people, that they bicyclists are all going 12 mph. | 00:10:29 | |
And and even. | 00:10:36 | |
Some people I'm, I'm out there monitoring wildlife. | 00:10:39 | |
Daily and so people will just stop and talk to me and and someone who is a PG resident. | 00:10:45 | |
I was just sure that the paved. | 00:10:55 | |
Paved part of the rec trail was intended for pedestrians whilst bicycles. | 00:10:59 | |
And other motorized vehicles, so. | 00:11:05 | |
Anyway, I think it's fabulous that we at least have something there that's getting people to pay some kind of attention and I do | 00:11:08 | |
hope that soon we will have. | 00:11:13 | |
A community service officer. | 00:11:19 | |
On a bike? | 00:11:22 | |
Who can really see what's going on down there? I it would just, I think. | 00:11:23 | |
Bring about a lot safer conditions. | 00:11:31 | |
Down there and we have so many wildlife issues that community service officers can be taken care of down there, which I know is in | 00:11:34 | |
the works. I don't know what the bicycles in the works and I think that's the only way they can really tell. | 00:11:40 | |
Ohh that. | 00:11:48 | |
I. | 00:11:49 | |
It could give progress that's being made. These are nice. | 00:11:51 | |
Big bold bicycle stencils with with with the speed limit. Fine on the ground where people see it. So thank you. | 00:11:55 | |
Thank you for your comment. | 00:12:06 | |
Thank you. And if I can, thank Mr. Go and his team for doing all that work that we're just. | 00:12:08 | |
Gave praise for us. So thank you very much. I see your team out there. Appreciate it. | 00:12:14 | |
I'm a freaking almost daily use user of that area. | 00:12:19 | |
I really think the speed limit and. | 00:12:23 | |
There's all this other. | 00:12:25 | |
Umm. | 00:12:27 | |
Markets, I think have been very, very much appreciated. | 00:12:28 | |
And hopefully uh. | 00:12:32 | |
We'll address the problem. | 00:12:34 | |
Hey, any other comments? | 00:12:37 | |
No. | 00:12:39 | |
OK, item 4, Commission and staff announcements. | 00:12:41 | |
The minutes for the July meeting for this meeting will be. | 00:12:44 | |
Prepared by Commissioner Shamus. | 00:12:47 | |
And we thank you for your service. | 00:12:49 | |
Subsection B Staff and commissioner meetings and attendance and items of interest. | 00:12:53 | |
To this Commission Council member. | 00:12:58 | |
Amelia. | 00:13:01 | |
It's like pulling up here. | 00:13:12 | |
Since I'm kind of short. | 00:13:13 | |
I think think the traffic commissioners for all your service appreciate all that. | 00:13:16 | |
So let me just tell you real quick on the. | 00:13:22 | |
There was a first reading amending the city. | 00:13:27 | |
Salary classification. | 00:13:32 | |
That was approved a 70 vote Accessory Dwelling units ordinance was going to be continued to August 2nd. | 00:13:34 | |
Requests for proposals for the coastal wild. | 00:13:45 | |
Life protection. | 00:13:49 | |
This was continued actually from July 5th. | 00:13:52 | |
That was approved. | 00:13:55 | |
The small. | 00:13:58 | |
This business recovery action plan was also. | 00:13:59 | |
Tables. | 00:14:04 | |
The energy savings assessment and resiliency was also tabled. | 00:14:06 | |
Umm. | 00:14:11 | |
The Sub City Public information and Community Engagement. | 00:14:13 | |
Was also tabled. | 00:14:18 | |
Umm. | 00:14:20 | |
The League of California Cities representatives was going to be approved by Councilman Nick Smith. Was going to be. | 00:14:22 | |
The one to represent us in the California League of California Cities, and I'm going to be the alternate. | 00:14:32 | |
To that meeting and actually in September, I believe it's 2020. | 00:14:37 | |
There won't be a council meeting on that time because all of us will be attending the League of California Cities. | 00:14:44 | |
Umm. | 00:14:50 | |
Also. | 00:14:52 | |
The concept review of the housing proposal. | 00:14:53 | |
In regards to the city, parking lot between Lighthouse and Laurel was continued. | 00:14:56 | |
Table. | 00:15:02 | |
And umm. | 00:15:03 | |
The Pacific Growth Public Transportation past, present and future looking also was just presented by Councilman Luke Colletti, and | 00:15:05 | |
I joined in on that conversation. | 00:15:11 | |
And the reason why things were so, so many were tabled as we had some personnel closed session items. | 00:15:19 | |
At the beginning. | 00:15:26 | |
And at the end of the. | 00:15:27 | |
Council meeting in the that's what. That's why, well a lot of things were continued. | 00:15:29 | |
If you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer them. | 00:15:34 | |
Commissioners. | 00:15:37 | |
Thank you very much. OK. Thank you. | 00:15:39 | |
Any amount C. | 00:15:44 | |
Biking pedestrian committee. | 00:15:45 | |
Commissioner Stern. | 00:15:47 | |
So TAMC did not have a bike and pedestrian committee meeting in June, so no updates this month. | 00:15:49 | |
Thank you so much. | 00:15:58 | |
Discussion on written public comment agenda procedure Chief. | 00:15:59 | |
Yes. So thank you, Mr. Chair. So moving forward, Commissioners, just wanted to point out and to the community that you may see a | 00:16:05 | |
change in how our agenda looks. | 00:16:10 | |
We're going to streamline and streamline it, Oh my God, streamline it and make it similar to the other boards and commissions. So | 00:16:15 | |
it'll be public written, public comments and it'll be all in one link. | 00:16:20 | |
Not all separate like we do it now. | 00:16:27 | |
Thank you, Chief. Thank you. | 00:16:29 | |
Discussion on Joint Commission working group concept. | 00:16:31 | |
Chief Yes, thank you again, Mr. Chair. So. | 00:16:34 | |
This was brought up. | 00:16:38 | |
At one of our subcommittee meetings for the goals subcommittee about a potential for communicating better with other board | 00:16:40 | |
members, so. | 00:16:45 | |
I floated the idea with the city manager and he was supportive of it and then we I vetted it with the city attorney. | 00:16:50 | |
So the idea of the concept is it's on a voluntary basis that one member. | 00:16:58 | |
From each board or Commission. | 00:17:03 | |
We'll meet at a cadence of the group's choosing. | 00:17:05 | |
And they'll discuss programs, projects, issues, or concerns that are being discussed on their individual boards. | 00:17:08 | |
And then that individual board member will bring it back to like so for example, if Mr. Gumby was our representative here, he | 00:17:15 | |
would go to that meeting and then bring back any of the issues from the other boards and commissions that are relating to Traffic | 00:17:20 | |
Safety Commission here. | 00:17:25 | |
And again, it would be voluntary. | 00:17:31 | |
I did meet with each of the staff liaisons and they're going to bring bringing this concept to their boards to see who would like | 00:17:33 | |
to participate. | 00:17:37 | |
And once we have that set of people that are interested. | 00:17:42 | |
We will. I will host one meeting, the first meeting. | 00:17:48 | |
And then turn it over to the group of individuals so it's only one person from each Commission, so there's no Brown Act violation. | 00:17:51 | |
And so that's needs to be made clear and I will do this probably in October to give all of the other staff liaisons the | 00:17:59 | |
opportunity to come before their boards. | 00:18:03 | |
So I don't if there's any comments or questions about that. May wanna go out to public comment for this one as well. | 00:18:08 | |
And this is for information only or should we any selection at this time? | 00:18:15 | |
If we would like to do it, yeah, this would be something we would could discuss and then select somebody here so I can move | 00:18:20 | |
forward with it, OK. | 00:18:24 | |
Please, sorry, would you like to go to public comment for the public? Yes, public comment. | 00:18:30 | |
Please. | 00:18:35 | |
Anybody here miss Garcia? | 00:18:37 | |
No, OK. | 00:18:39 | |
Miss Dahmer. | 00:18:41 | |
Yes, thank you, Chief. I think you came up with an excellent idea because the boards. | 00:18:43 | |
Commissions and. | 00:18:50 | |
And committees do not. | 00:18:51 | |
Speak with each other and they really should. So I think that that's an excellent idea. There should be more. | 00:18:55 | |
Communication between them because they do have. | 00:19:02 | |
Have items that come before, one that really concerns many others and. | 00:19:06 | |
To have just one member of each one meet and discuss them would be a step forward, I think. | 00:19:12 | |
So kudos. Thank you. | 00:19:20 | |
Thank you. | 00:19:23 | |
Any other public comment? | 00:19:27 | |
I see no other hands raised, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Chief. | 00:19:29 | |
Councillor. | 00:19:32 | |
For sure, yeah. Again, a brilliant idea by our Chief who's constantly thinking about these cool things. | 00:19:33 | |
One of the things I wanted to ask you chief in it and just to emphasize this, this body will not be making any decisions, correct? | 00:19:40 | |
That is correct. And the meetings will there. They are going to be a, it's a working group. They'll be called a working group. | 00:19:46 | |
It won't be agendized. There will. They will not be. | 00:19:53 | |
Televised or anything like that, it's just gonna be. | 00:19:57 | |
A group that meets together. | 00:20:00 | |
At a location that may be the library or a place of their choosing. | 00:20:02 | |
Yeah, I thought that would be important for the record. So thank you. Thank you. | 00:20:06 | |
Any other comment? | 00:20:12 | |
No. | 00:20:15 | |
OK and. | 00:20:15 | |
Brown at e-mail Reminders Chief. | 00:20:18 | |
Is anyone interested in serving on that position for this board? | 00:20:20 | |
Share I I thought nobody was going to discuss it today. | 00:20:26 | |
Anybody interested in serving on this important? | 00:20:31 | |
Opportunity. | 00:20:34 | |
I nominate Commissioner Gumby as it was his idea and I think he has some interest in it. | 00:20:36 | |
If you want to accept, not sure. | 00:20:44 | |
I I would. | 00:20:47 | |
Participate. Yes. | 00:20:49 | |
OK. | 00:20:50 | |
Any other? Anyone else interested? | 00:20:52 | |
In battling it out with Commissioner Cumby. | 00:20:54 | |
No. Alright, we should help me. Got it. Thank you. Thank you. | 00:20:56 | |
OK, Brown, act e-mail reminders. | 00:21:02 | |
Yes. So thank you again, Mr. Chair. So we have a new member, so I know she has to go through some training, although she's very | 00:21:06 | |
well versed in the Brown Act, but just a reminder that when we are sending emails. | 00:21:12 | |
You need to send it to the Traffic Safety Commission e-mail. | 00:21:18 | |
Everyone will see it, but nobody else can reply back and forth so. | 00:21:21 | |
Be careful on the communications that we're having back and forth. | 00:21:25 | |
Thank you very much, Chief. | 00:21:32 | |
Seeing public hearings? None. | 00:21:35 | |
Unfinished business discussion of the requested and prohibit overnight parking on the seaward side. | 00:21:38 | |
Ocean view from 17th St. to Asilomar Commander. | 00:21:45 | |
Thank you. | 00:21:51 | |
This is why I believe it was on the May 23rd meeting. Unfortunately, the chief and I were unable to attend on that. | 00:21:52 | |
Uh. | 00:21:58 | |
This was brought up then and what we were really looking for was to present the information to the Traffic Safety Commission. | 00:21:59 | |
To let you know that that was something that we were looking into moving forward with. | 00:22:06 | |
Because as written, the the municipal codes are a little confusing. | 00:22:10 | |
And it ends up creating. We do get a lot of complaints into the department, especially at night with overnight camping along there | 00:22:14 | |
and certain areas. As it stands right now, you actually can park there overnight. | 00:22:20 | |
Not necessarily camp, but you can park there overnight. | 00:22:26 | |
And enforcing some of these issues when you have. | 00:22:30 | |
Someone parked in one of the smaller campers. If they don't answer the door or come out and let officers know, we can't. | 00:22:33 | |
We can issue a parking citation, but we can't eliminate them from camping if they just don't come to the door. We can't, like | 00:22:42 | |
break in and make them leave or towed away. | 00:22:46 | |
So if we eliminate the parking along. | 00:22:50 | |
The C word side. | 00:22:53 | |
And make it even throughout the entire city. Instead of just having these little pockets, we eliminate that issue altogether, and | 00:22:54 | |
it would be from midnight to five. | 00:22:58 | |
So we are aware that this will we will be going to the Planning Commission. | 00:23:02 | |
And then potentially with the LCP that we may need to get with this. | 00:23:07 | |
And we'll be working, Mr. Sidor, with that. | 00:23:11 | |
So we just wanted to give that update, make sure that traffic Commission was aware because it is a parking issue within the city. | 00:23:14 | |
Thank you, Commander. | 00:23:20 | |
Any public. | 00:23:22 | |
Public. | 00:23:24 | |
If I could just make a comment, so one of the other comments that we had during that meeting. | 00:23:26 | |
Was that we were made aware of the city of Santa Cruz and a there. | 00:23:33 | |
Parking prohibition that had just been approved by the Coastal Commission there had gone a lot of back and forth. | 00:23:39 | |
And one of our concerns and one of our suggestions, was to try to emulate, you know, work with or see. | 00:23:47 | |
The ordinance that the city of Santa Cruz was able to come up with, that was something that the Coastal Commission was OK with. | 00:23:55 | |
So we don't keep going through the try to reinvent the wheel again. | 00:24:04 | |
Sorry, just a comment. | 00:24:09 | |
Thank you. | 00:24:10 | |
OK. Thank you. | 00:24:12 | |
Any public comment? | 00:24:13 | |
Miss Garcia, anything here? No. OK, Miss. | 00:24:15 | |
Miss Dahmer. | 00:24:18 | |
Thank you. | 00:24:21 | |
And thank you for. | 00:24:22 | |
I mean, I wrote another e-mail dealing with because this one really does need a CDP and approval of the Coastal Commission to | 00:24:25 | |
limit any kind of. | 00:24:29 | |
Coastal access. | 00:24:34 | |
Even if it's at night time. | 00:24:35 | |
And that is why I sent you all the city of Santa Cruz information too, because it had passed. One very interesting thing if you | 00:24:37 | |
didn't go through. | 00:24:42 | |
All of that Coastal Commission hearing was they had because. | 00:24:46 | |
Unfortunately, those overnight campers are. | 00:24:52 | |
That park there and put their refuse and everything else. | 00:24:55 | |
Are also their low income coastal access. | 00:24:59 | |
And So what the city of Santa Cruz did is a mitigating measure is they have several safe parking spaces. Like We haven't starve 1 | 00:25:04 | |
Starfish that only takes care of like 5 women in their cars or something. | 00:25:11 | |
Well, they. | 00:25:19 | |
Have a whole lot. | 00:25:20 | |
And over 20 some odd spaces that has services and things for that. So if you haven't read that Santa Cruz. | 00:25:21 | |
The Coastal Commission because they had to amend their LCP. | 00:25:30 | |
Their local coastal program. | 00:25:33 | |
And it had to be accepted so. | 00:25:36 | |
Very definitely look through that material because obviously Pacific Grove doesn't have. | 00:25:39 | |
A safe space for these people. | 00:25:45 | |
An alternative. | 00:25:49 | |
And that is going to have to be worked out too, I would imagine. | 00:25:51 | |
So I'm very glad that the planning department well Joe Sidor. | 00:25:55 | |
Is involved in this now and yes, it needs to go to the Planning Commission, so thank you very much. | 00:25:59 | |
Thank you. | 00:26:09 | |
If I could make a comment, we did. We did discuss that and and while we won't go into detail now, but we believe we have at least | 00:26:11 | |
one location. | 00:26:16 | |
That is potential. | 00:26:22 | |
And and maybe some other other locations too. So it's something that we did, we did address. | 00:26:24 | |
Are also this specifically is on ocean view. Does this also include sunset too? OK just to confirm. Thank you. | 00:26:30 | |
Any other public comment? | 00:26:41 | |
I see no other hands, but may we go backwards? I do have a couple more staff announcements if that's possible, so just wanted to | 00:26:43 | |
let the community know that. | 00:26:48 | |
We have the Summer Lights program coming up. | 00:26:53 | |
February. | 00:26:56 | |
I'm sorry. Friday, July 28th, this Friday coming up is the pet parade that starts at 2:00. O'clock starts at Caledonia Park. So | 00:26:58 | |
that's a great fun event. | 00:27:02 | |
This Thursday night we have our our first. | 00:27:07 | |
Jewel in the park or park music and the jewel Boots and Blazers barn dance. That's from 6:00 to 9:00 o'clock at. | 00:27:11 | |
No, don't take that back. | 00:27:19 | |
That's from 5:30. | 00:27:22 | |
There's also a line dancing at Chautauqua Hall on Friday the 28th. | 00:27:25 | |
6:00 to 9:00 o'clock, that's. | 00:27:29 | |
That is the boots and Blazers. | 00:27:32 | |
Barn dance. | 00:27:34 | |
There'll be a line dancing Snacks, Emerge Dice on Saturday the 29th. There will be a an event at Lovers Point. | 00:27:36 | |
That starts at 11:00 o'clock and ends at. | 00:27:45 | |
5:00 o'clock or 9:00 O'clock. We have two different times, and then it will culminate with a light show at Lovers Point Park on | 00:27:48 | |
the pier. | 00:27:52 | |
In addition to that, we have. | 00:27:57 | |
National Night Out, which is the police event that's August 1st from 5:00 to 7:00 at Caledonia Park. | 00:27:59 | |
And this year, our theme is Coastal Wildlife Awareness. | 00:28:06 | |
So we invite the community to come out for a night out on crime and August 15th to the 18th is the events we have for Car week. | 00:28:09 | |
We have 4 events in the city, so those are fun events. We'll invite the community out and finally moving forward, Commander | 00:28:19 | |
Santos, who is going to be the staff liaison to this board. | 00:28:24 | |
We are getting a new commander, so. | 00:28:30 | |
I took this, so take it off his plate. But we'll be dispersing some additional responsibilities now, and so he'll be your liaison. | 00:28:32 | |
I will absolutely be here if you need me and and be here to fill in for the Commander. So thank you for all of you. I appreciate | 00:28:39 | |
all of your hard work and your commitment and your dedication and all of the hours of volunteer. Really. Really. | 00:28:46 | |
Appreciate all of you. Thank you. | 00:28:53 | |
Thank you, Chief. | 00:28:55 | |
Comments from. | 00:28:58 | |
Commissioners. | 00:28:59 | |
Yeah, I just wanted to add a comment, I think. | 00:29:01 | |
Commander and chief. | 00:29:04 | |
We had a very robust discussion about this issue. | 00:29:06 | |
With regard to parking. | 00:29:10 | |
Along the coastal areas in the last meeting and it might be advisable if you don't recall that to. | 00:29:12 | |
You know. | 00:29:19 | |
Listen to or watch the last meetings discussion. | 00:29:19 | |
We are all very concerned about that and do realize that. | 00:29:24 | |
We we don't have to reinvent the wheel here. | 00:29:28 | |
And we won't be in a good position if we do. | 00:29:31 | |
Given the attitude that was taken by the Coastal Commission plus. | 00:29:34 | |
Taking in consideration, you know, the importance of protecting access to the coastal zone. | 00:29:38 | |
So thank you very much and thank you very much, Chief. | 00:29:45 | |
For all of your work, it's been fantastic. Thank you. I appreciate it. | 00:29:48 | |
Commissioners, any other comment? | 00:29:54 | |
No. | 00:29:58 | |
OK, umm. | 00:29:59 | |
Let's see. New business? None. | 00:30:01 | |
Report from the subcommittee Commissioner Gumby. | 00:30:04 | |
Yes, we, we last meeting we actually had a great discussion. | 00:30:07 | |
And public works director Mr. Go was able to attend. And I think we. | 00:30:13 | |
Able to solve a lot of our concerns we were still in our process of creating. | 00:30:19 | |
Or fulfilling our goals through many objectives, both for vehicle traffic, bicycle traffic and pedestrians. | 00:30:27 | |
And we're in the process of. | 00:30:39 | |
Getting those in a in a hierarchical order and A and calling them down to the most. | 00:30:44 | |
The most. | 00:30:51 | |
Concerning for us and so we're still in that process and hope to bring. | 00:30:53 | |
The document to the to the Commission. | 00:30:57 | |
Yeah. Maybe in a couple of months. We'll we'll see. Anyway, thank you. OK. Thank you. | 00:31:02 | |
Any other comments, Commissioners? | 00:31:07 | |
Yes. | 00:31:09 | |
Mr. Schiller. | 00:31:10 | |
Can you just describe what that is? Your subcommittee? Sure. So made-up of a subcommittee to. | 00:31:12 | |
In the overall overarching. | 00:31:23 | |
Goal of safety within Pacific Grove. | 00:31:26 | |
We broke it down into 3 categories, Vehicle Safety, Bicycle Safety and Pedestrian safety. | 00:31:29 | |
And. | 00:31:36 | |
Then. | 00:31:37 | |
To accomplish each of those goals, those goals we came up with various objectives for in each category. So we discussed those we | 00:31:39 | |
we looked at ways of. | 00:31:45 | |
Of completing those those objectives many there there are some that are it may be an enforcement issue, there may be a public | 00:31:51 | |
works maintenance issue that we were able actually to resolve. Many of those just working with with public works and the police. | 00:31:59 | |
So anyway so we're we're in the process of. | 00:32:07 | |
Compiling those, coming up with a like I said, a a group. | 00:32:16 | |
For each and trying to pare it down to to bite sized pieces and. | 00:32:21 | |
Vote to bring that to the full Commission. | 00:32:28 | |
Umm. | 00:32:30 | |
Near, you know, the next few months. | 00:32:32 | |
And hopefully we can agree on on those objectives and I would imagine the next step was present those. | 00:32:34 | |
Objectives to the City Council for hopefully their. | 00:32:44 | |
Endorsement. | 00:32:48 | |
And go from there. | 00:32:49 | |
I don't think that's necessary, but you can if you choose to. It's your board, it's your Commission, so you know you. This is a | 00:32:54 | |
something I presented. | 00:32:58 | |
To this body, I think it was back in February when the new Commission came on. | 00:33:03 | |
Is to create a goal for the Traffic Safety Commission. And So what happened was we created a subcommittee of three members, which | 00:33:08 | |
is. | 00:33:12 | |
Commissioner Stern, Commissioner Brown and Commissioner Gumby. | 00:33:16 | |
And they've been meeting with the commander, myself and Mr. Go to go over and try to create a a goal. We we we pretty much have | 00:33:18 | |
one. | 00:33:22 | |
Overarching goal safety and with different like Commissioner Gummy said, different subsets of it for traffic. | 00:33:27 | |
For vehicles, for pedestrians and for cyclists. | 00:33:34 | |
And so we created tasks and. | 00:33:37 | |
And and I think. | 00:33:40 | |
I think you guys are pretty close to coming back to the Commission to bring it forward and. | 00:33:41 | |
And to present it. | 00:33:45 | |
So they've been doing fantastic work. | 00:33:47 | |
So thank you all for the extra work you've been doing. | 00:33:49 | |
I I. | 00:33:53 | |
Personally, I would like to present it to the City Council and. | 00:33:54 | |
If nothing else at least gets their endorsement of it, whether or not it goes anywhere. | 00:34:00 | |
Beyond that, we'll see. | 00:34:05 | |
Chief. | 00:34:11 | |
Commander. | 00:34:12 | |
Directly go any comments? | 00:34:13 | |
You have. | 00:34:16 | |
No. | 00:34:17 | |
OK, that is the end of our agenda adjournment at. | 00:34:18 | |
434. | 00:34:22 | |
Thank you. Thank you all. Thanks. | 00:34:23 | |
Thanks all. | 00:34:25 |