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All right. Good afternoon, everyone. | 00:00:15 | |
I'd like to welcome you to the April 24th, 2024 meeting of the Historic Resource Committee. | 00:00:18 | |
And may the record please reflect that all five members are present. | 00:00:27 | |
And we'll move to the item, the second item which is the approval of the agenda and I'd like to move 11A. | 00:00:33 | |
To be heard right after the general public comment. So it'd be item number. | 00:00:42 | |
5B kind of like. | 00:00:48 | |
And that gives Mr. Perrault some time to speak to us. | 00:00:52 | |
So with that, may I have a motion to approve the? | 00:00:58 | |
Amended agenda please. So moved. Thank you second. | 00:01:01 | |
Moved by steers and seconded by greening. | 00:01:07 | |
Maybe we have a vote all in favor. | 00:01:13 | |
All right. That's A50 vote. Thank you. Let's go on to item 3, committee and staff announcements. Do we have any staff | 00:01:18 | |
announcements? | 00:01:22 | |
Staff has one announcement. Associate planner Laurel O'halloran announced her retirement after 16 years of service and is no | 00:01:27 | |
longer working for the city. | 00:01:32 | |
Her last day was on April 18th and she enjoyed her time with the city Pacific Grove and is grateful to have worked with such | 00:01:38 | |
wonderful people and wishes all the best. | 00:01:43 | |
Hear that? No, Laurel. | 00:01:49 | |
Do we have any committee announcements? | 00:01:53 | |
All right. Let's move on. We'll go on to item number. | 00:01:56 | |
Four, and that would be our council liaison announcements. And Mayor Peak, thank you as always for being present. | 00:01:59 | |
You chair Anton committee members and again excellent attendance. I really appreciate you taking the time today. Just a few things | 00:02:09 | |
that council recently on took action. On our last meeting we hired Matt Morganson as the incoming City manager. He's currently the | 00:02:17 | |
Assistant City manager. | 00:02:24 | |
In the city of Marina and will soon be saying goodbye to Mr. Perrault whose last day in the office will be May May 2nd. And he's | 00:02:32 | |
assured me that he will be spending more time in the saddle literally in the saddle on his horse in in a knee found retirement. We | 00:02:42 | |
thank him for all his efforts. Also council recently heard from public works about the. | 00:02:52 | |
Concepts for the five way intersection that's proposed to be upgraded at that Cedar Sunset and Congress and we're going to hear | 00:03:03 | |
more about the council asked For more information about the concepts. Also council approved the Chinese pavilion at El Marie **** | 00:03:14 | |
Park as to be put on the capital improvement program and also music in the Jewel park to be put on. | 00:03:24 | |
As special events upcoming this, this year. And lastly the Coastal Commission, if you haven't heard it's in the newspaper, Coastal | 00:03:36 | |
Commission approve the American Tin Cannery hotel and commercial project with additional conditions and in the future. | 00:03:45 | |
I feel a little silly saying that the one of the biggest efforts this year is the housing element and we have spearheaded by. | 00:03:57 | |
A higher kind of community development department and so we'll be hearing more about that particularly in in June and July and | 00:04:08 | |
upcoming it's budget time again and so. | 00:04:14 | |
I'll expect to see more. | 00:04:22 | |
Talk about. | 00:04:23 | |
Helping our infrastructure complete streets safe, safer Routes to School. | 00:04:26 | |
That's all. | 00:04:32 | |
Thank you very much. | 00:04:33 | |
All right, moving to item 5, which is general public comment, This must deal with matters subject to the jurisdiction of the city | 00:04:37 | |
and of the Historic Resources Committee, and these have to be items that are not on the regular agenda. | 00:04:45 | |
So if you wish to speak, you have 3 minutes and I ask, we have some audience people I ask you to come forward. So is there anybody | 00:04:53 | |
that would like to speak under general public comment? | 00:04:59 | |
All right. Any virtual speakers? I see, no hands raised. | 00:05:07 | |
OK, then I'm going to close general public comment and we'll move now to item 11A, which is our presentation by our City Manager. | 00:05:13 | |
So Mr. Prault, it's all yours. | 00:05:18 | |
Yes, thank you, Madam Chair. | 00:05:24 | |
That you do, it's a great contribution to the city. | 00:05:34 | |
And for me, it's a little bit of personal interest, although I have spent nearly 40 years in municipal government and city | 00:05:39 | |
management in particular. | 00:05:45 | |
My background is actually history. That's what I left college with, is a bachelor's in history. | 00:05:52 | |
I thought I was going to be a history teacher, but I got lost along the way and ended up in the municipal management field. | 00:06:01 | |
Anyway, what I'm here to do today is to review with you the work program, the community goals, priority setting process that the | 00:06:11 | |
Council has continued to do in anticipation of. | 00:06:20 | |
The actual budget process, which is currently underway. | 00:06:31 | |
Goal setting, as well as the development of priority areas and the work plan are extremely important to the entire organization. | 00:06:37 | |
And that by that I mean that the goals and the work, the priority areas and work program that is dotted by the council provides | 00:06:49 | |
directions to the city's boards and commissions and employees as to what the council deems as being important and. | 00:07:01 | |
To pursue over a two year period of time. | 00:07:15 | |
And as a result of that. | 00:07:19 | |
The work program and and goals have been developed and used as a guideline for the development of the budget itself. As you all | 00:07:23 | |
probably know of, a budget actually is the the road map for how the city is operated during the course of a fiscal year, including | 00:07:32 | |
the use of. | 00:07:40 | |
Uh, resources of both person power and. | 00:07:49 | |
And day-to-day activities to support. | 00:07:56 | |
The the goals and work program progress. | 00:07:59 | |
About in January of 2023 actually, the Council retained a group that facilitated goal setting and the development of work program | 00:08:06 | |
for a two year period of time. It is important that once that is done. | 00:08:16 | |
That the Council checks in on the progress of their goals and work program and that is in fact what the Council did on February | 00:08:28 | |
28th. | 00:08:33 | |
They took a look at the four major areas of. | 00:08:39 | |
Priority areas of their work program and took a look as to what progress and miles they made, but with both the goals in | 00:08:45 | |
milestones and provided direction to modify those goals and progress programs where necessary to ensure that by the end of that | 00:08:53 | |
two year period. | 00:09:01 | |
Their work program and goals will be met. I want to say that once a work program is adopted, it, along with the budget really | 00:09:10 | |
guide the way for the city's operations as I've noted. But it's important to realize that they are both living documents that as | 00:09:21 | |
you go through the operationally or things will come up and obviously items, milestones, even goals themselves. | 00:09:32 | |
May need to be adjusted in order to meet the priority areas. | 00:09:43 | |
And with that, I just would like to cover briefly what those four priority areas are and what the goals, milestones. | 00:09:50 | |
Have been and what kind of progress has been made today made to date. So beginning with that, it's up on the screen. | 00:10:01 | |
The first priority area that I'd like to cover is recreation services. This is extremely important for the for the council and as | 00:10:10 | |
you can see, the number one goal there was to expand. | 00:10:18 | |
Hours and services of the youth center. This was had almost immediately undertaken in 2023, and some of those milestones included | 00:10:26 | |
the development of a comprehensive recreation plan for the City Council. | 00:10:37 | |
And to include expanded services and activities programs. | 00:10:48 | |
And. | 00:10:54 | |
To receive counsel and input, I want to say that that report was completed and we're in the process of implementing it right now. | 00:10:57 | |
That means increased recreational services at many of our facilities, primarily the youth activity center across the way and that | 00:11:07 | |
that has been pretty significant. | 00:11:16 | |
We're in the process of continuing to add additional staff to carry out those programs just about every day. They offer some kind | 00:11:26 | |
of after school program as you may know. | 00:11:32 | |
But in addition to that, they offer special several specialized programs for different interest groups of all ages, including | 00:11:39 | |
dance, kickboxing. | 00:11:45 | |
Sporting activities and a number of other things. One of the items that was extremely important for the council was they expand | 00:11:52 | |
the use of the swimming pool down at Lovers Point and you'll continue to see. | 00:12:00 | |
See that this coming year, not only will we be more open for public swim in addition to actually assisting with. | 00:12:08 | |
Swimming instruction. So that's that's continuing along and we've made good progress up to this point. | 00:12:22 | |
We're kind of in in between. | 00:12:33 | |
In that in that final quarter where we're adding more staff in anticipation of this Summers programs, one of the things we have in | 00:12:36 | |
process and are yet to complete is to evaluate the fees for use of rental. | 00:12:46 | |
And rental of city facilities. This would include Chautauqua Hall and the Community Center, etc. | 00:12:56 | |
That report will come back to the City Council before the end of this fiscal year and then we'll hope to receive the direction to | 00:13:05 | |
implement that fee schedule. If we can go to the next slide, please see if the. | 00:13:15 | |
There we go. The next work area is a big one, an important one. It's infrastructure. | 00:13:29 | |
And ultimately, what we're talking about there is to enhance the process prioritization, scheduling and completion of CIP | 00:13:35 | |
projects. | 00:13:41 | |
I think what you'll see is we approach this new budget season, you're going to see a little bit different approach to our capital | 00:13:48 | |
improvement programs trying to move to a a more defined multi year approach to capital improvement planning and I think you'll see | 00:13:56 | |
that public works will. | 00:14:03 | |
Bringing out a a more refined color, capital improvement projects plan during this budget season. | 00:14:12 | |
One of the things we've done is, and it's been very important to the council, is to actually select. | 00:14:23 | |
And a or develop an assessment of our main city facilities. | 00:14:33 | |
The the main city, city facilities obviously include this building, the youth center, the police station, the fire station. | 00:14:40 | |
And also the public works corporation Yard. | 00:14:49 | |
And we've hired and retained a a professional group to come in and do an assessment of those facilities. | 00:14:54 | |
Several of the facilities are beginning to age and we need to take a kind of long term vision approach. | 00:15:02 | |
To ensure that those the existing facilities are maintained to serve the not only the cities. | 00:15:12 | |
Current needs, but its future needs as well. The other thing that I've expressed to the public Works Director that I hope will be | 00:15:23 | |
addressed is you know the city is looking at possibly growing from time to time staff their staff changes and modification of what | 00:15:32 | |
directions we go in. So I'm I've asked them to take a look also to. | 00:15:42 | |
Come up with some idea as to how we can augment our existing facilities to accommodate accommodate future staff needs. | 00:15:52 | |
Perhaps one of the biggest things that we're about to undertake is the Complete streets policy, something that they're spending a | 00:16:05 | |
lot of interest in the community about and in fact we are just about to issue a request for qualifications to retain a firm that | 00:16:14 | |
will take a look at at getting a comprehensive. | 00:16:23 | |
UH, Complete Streets Policy. UH developed and put in place for the entire community. | 00:16:34 | |
And then going on to our next slide which is environmental stewardship working and living in this community. I I need not to tell | 00:16:41 | |
you how important this priority area is. We have such a tremendous environmental assets within the community that need to be | 00:16:51 | |
protected and and preserve this this in would include. | 00:17:02 | |
Everything from the the urban forest as well as obviously our parks. Some of our parks are in great pristine conditions, some of | 00:17:12 | |
them need additional work. Obviously we have the coastline and all the critters that inhabit the area and their special I know to | 00:17:22 | |
this particular. | 00:17:31 | |
City and location. So as I've mentioned, we need to do our best to ensure that those assets are maintained. | 00:17:42 | |
An important part of that is to initiate and complete a climate action plan. There's a subcommittee of the council and some | 00:17:53 | |
members from the BNRC that are working currently on that. | 00:18:01 | |
Plan It has been a little bit slow making progress. As you'll note. In the far end of it, it says it's only 50% completed. | 00:18:11 | |
I met. | 00:18:21 | |
With was was speaking with a couple of members of the subcommittee, and I know that they're very interested in retaining some | 00:18:24 | |
professional assistance to help complete the the proposed climate Action plan that in turn would return to the BNRC and then to | 00:18:31 | |
the City Council for review and adoption. | 00:18:38 | |
2nd is the initiation and completion of the citywide tree improvement and management plan. | 00:18:48 | |
A lot of this has focused recently on the. | 00:18:58 | |
Comprehensive. | 00:19:04 | |
Review of title Title 12 and within the municipal code as it relates to you know, the care and pruning and. | 00:19:05 | |
Permitting of trees and the removal of trees when they become necessary this. | 00:19:17 | |
Staff and the BNRC have both worked hard on getting to a point where I think they have a. | 00:19:25 | |
Final set of recommendations that they're going to forward to the City Council. They had a meeting. | 00:19:35 | |
Or they're having a meeting this month that will complete their review and then it'll be forwarded on to the City Council. | 00:19:42 | |
For further further review and final action. | 00:19:51 | |
Were the goal for us is to plan and maintain 150 native trees on public property and public right of way. | 00:19:56 | |
You know, it's been a little bit slow going for us due to some of the staff resources that we've had committed in different | 00:20:06 | |
locations, but I will tell you that we're beginning to make progress now. | 00:20:15 | |
As some of you may know, there was a great planning program earlier this month of involve 50 volunteers, no more several | 00:20:25 | |
volunteers and they accomplished plant the planting of 50 trees out of George Washington Park. We're also going to be bringing on | 00:20:33 | |
additional staff. I think we're about ready to make that selection that will help with the nurturing of the staff itself, I mean | 00:20:42 | |
of the trees themselves. | 00:20:50 | |
In terms of staffing, one of the things that the Council has asked us to look at is actually the retention of a full time arborist | 00:20:59 | |
or forester that will be dedicated to the maintenance of a of the urban forest because it is so important and that's something | 00:21:08 | |
that will be taken up as a part of the budget. | 00:21:16 | |
The protection of wildlife and habitat. | 00:21:27 | |
Again, the BNRC has been working with staff on a number of components of this work area, which includes the development of an | 00:21:31 | |
actual wildlife protection plan. And I I believe we're at a point where the deck is going to be sent to the BNRC for their review | 00:21:41 | |
and final recommendation on to the council as well. | 00:21:50 | |
I will say that a major part of that was an off council authorized increase in our community safety officers with a special | 00:22:01 | |
emphasis that they will do some of the enforcement along the coastline and some of our forest areas, especially looking out for | 00:22:11 | |
wildlife protection. And I'm pleased to report that three of those Csos are out there in the field in each of them do spend. | 00:22:22 | |
A portion of their day. | 00:22:33 | |
Uh, going into the areas where wildlife is present, it's been especially important during this last popping season, which is | 00:22:35 | |
underway as we speak. And the fencing, as you know, has been put up in the signage, I think is helping out there. And the CS OS | 00:22:44 | |
have been down there doing some education as well. So I think that's great. We need to still work on the draft and issue an RFQ | 00:22:53 | |
for the local coastal plan amendments. | 00:23:01 | |
And these amendments deal primarily in in the way they're being looked at. | 00:23:10 | |
Is is again to to do what we can to protect wildlife? | 00:23:17 | |
We've hired the consultant to conduct a biological assessment of George Washington Park and that's underway. That is a full year | 00:23:25 | |
long process. So we won't see the results of that until probably January or February of of next year actually. | 00:23:36 | |
And then to our 4th area. | 00:23:48 | |
Which is housing. And as you just heard from the mayor, housing, the housing element continues to be a major, major work activity | 00:23:54 | |
undertaken by the city. | 00:24:01 | |
We're in the process of updating the housing element. At present it's a six year, six cycle. | 00:24:10 | |
Each cycle is 8 years long. | 00:24:19 | |
I must say that a housing element is one of the required housing element required elements to be updated. | 00:24:23 | |
Within the general the. | 00:24:33 | |
General Plan. The General Plan document itself doesn't even it isn't even required to be updated as frequently as the Housing | 00:24:38 | |
Plan. | 00:24:42 | |
The housing plan is essentially tied to regional housing improvement numbers. | 00:24:47 | |
That are provided to us from the state and through the the regional organ organization of governments. | 00:24:56 | |
Our goal is as you've often heard referred to as the arena numbers. We have to within that eight-year plan be able to demonstrate | 00:25:06 | |
that we have the the capacity to to. | 00:25:15 | |
Actually provide an additional 1200 units of housing within the city and that's a big jump. It's never been that high in the past. | 00:25:26 | |
I think it's important to remember that the housing element is is a planning document. | 00:25:37 | |
You know and it it will depend on a lot of factors whether or not those, the 1200 homes actually end up being produced, but we | 00:25:44 | |
have to have the capacity. | 00:25:51 | |
And in case those opportunities to present themselves and we've been working on that for probably. | 00:25:58 | |
Year and a half, at least, maybe two years, We had a requirement to submit the draft of the housing element in November. That's | 00:26:07 | |
been completed staff. We received initial comments from the state and we've revised the draft housing element accordingly. We're | 00:26:17 | |
doing in a broad environmental document because it is such a sweeping document. | 00:26:27 | |
And will ultimately require rezoning of several areas or properties within the city to ensure that we actually have the capacity | 00:26:37 | |
to accomplish. | 00:26:44 | |
The 1200 units only when we've completed. | 00:26:53 | |
The both the EIR and the update to the zoning for the various properties, can we actually stand in line to get certification? | 00:27:00 | |
And we're hoping that that will be completed by early next year. | 00:27:16 | |
A couple of other areas within housing that we're looking at. Obviously we're trying to grandfather in existing non conforming AD | 00:27:24 | |
use. We've got a ways to go with that that will help with the production numbers that were being saddled with and finally. | 00:27:35 | |
Made another major goal for the city is the development of an affordable housing project that's kind of at the end down here. | 00:27:48 | |
And the council wanted the the city to be assured that that stays on the map. Sometimes affordable housing, a project of that of | 00:27:58 | |
this nature, is hard to do. | 00:28:05 | |
But the the City Council would still like to. | 00:28:12 | |
Pursue it. It generally means that you have to come up with a location and a partner to be able to implement an affordable housing | 00:28:18 | |
project, and normally. | 00:28:25 | |
The these programs will need a great deal of also financial assistance. | 00:28:34 | |
So with that, the city did get, city staff did get direction to go ahead and modify our budget, a couple of areas that the council | 00:28:43 | |
wanted us to review, as I've already mentioned the increase of the OR to take a look at. | 00:28:54 | |
The addition of a full time Foresters slash. | 00:29:07 | |
Arborist and so we're looking at that and other things we're looking at is improving our our fire delivery services delivery | 00:29:15 | |
system with the addition of advanced life support. We haven't had that in the past. So we're looking at moving forward there and | 00:29:23 | |
there are a number of other areas. | 00:29:31 | |
That we will be reviewing at the Council's direction during the budget process. | 00:29:40 | |
So my point here was just to share all that with you. It's a very busy time for the entire city. | 00:29:49 | |
Certainly doesn't take anything away from what you do. Again, I want to thank you for what you do. Your group is is just slightly | 00:29:56 | |
different than some of the others. | 00:30:01 | |
You have two capacities. Obviously you're involved in the permitting review process, which is a bit different than some of our | 00:30:08 | |
other community commissions and committees, but we also another council looks to you to perform an advisory role as well. | 00:30:17 | |
And with that, I'll conclude my presentation and I can answer any questions you might have. | 00:30:28 | |
Thank you very much. And do we have any questions? | 00:30:35 | |
None that can be. | 00:30:42 | |
Dealt with at this time? No. It's a lot of information. Awful lot, yes, but I certainly appreciate your patience with it. | 00:30:45 | |
And thank you for taking the time to come in and thank you for just being here for the last, I don't know how long, six months, | 00:30:56 | |
six months. I mean we appreciate your help. I know the council's been very pleased with with your help and I you will be missed. | 00:31:03 | |
What can I say? Well, I, I, you know and that's very kind, but I've got to say you've got a great professional coming in and I | 00:31:10 | |
just think that the partnership between the councils, the. | 00:31:18 | |
Committees, commissions and staff that everything is is moving in a very positive direction. | 00:31:25 | |
So thank you, thank you for that. And I have to get upstairs for another meeting, so meeting. | 00:31:33 | |
All right. Thank you again. All right, well, let's move on now to item number 7, which is reports requiring action has three | 00:31:41 | |
parts. | 00:31:45 | |
This is on the consent agenda. | 00:31:51 | |
Is there anybody on the? | 00:31:54 | |
Committee that would like to pull an item from the consent agenda. | 00:31:56 | |
Seeing none, is there anybody from the audience that would like to pull an item from the consent agenda? | 00:32:03 | |
Seeing none, what about from our virtual audience? I see one hand raised. The next speaker will be Inga Lorenzen Dahmer. | 00:32:11 | |
Thank you. Could we get back to a full screen on the other rather than half with the council goals? | 00:32:26 | |
The chamber rather than half of the screen. Well, the screen is the council goals anyway. | 00:32:36 | |
I would like to pull. | 00:32:43 | |
7B please. | 00:32:46 | |
448 Gibson. | 00:32:50 | |
Thank you. | 00:32:53 | |
Anybody else? | 00:33:00 | |
Any other members from the public? | 00:33:33 | |
Want to pull, and I see no other hands raised. All right, I will take 7B and we will move that to. It'll become new 8B. | 00:33:35 | |
That be correct? | 00:33:44 | |
Yes. | 00:33:50 | |
All right, so 7B becomes 8B. | 00:33:52 | |
So with that exception. | 00:33:57 | |
Do we have a motion to approve the consent agenda with the? | 00:34:00 | |
Removal of. | 00:34:06 | |
7D we have a motion. | 00:34:08 | |
Hi, Somu. Thank you. | 00:34:14 | |
We have a second. | 00:34:18 | |
Seconded, Yes, thank you. So it's been moved by Grandison. Seconded by Steers. | 00:34:19 | |
To approve the consent agenda with the removal of item number 7B. | 00:34:28 | |
May we have a vote please All in favor. | 00:34:32 | |
Anybody against? All right, so that was a A50 vote. | 00:34:36 | |
So we will move that, then it'll become eight. | 00:34:43 | |
All right, that takes us to the regular agenda. | 00:34:47 | |
And we have one item. | 00:34:51 | |
#8 | 00:34:53 | |
and we maybe have a staff report please. | 00:34:56 | |
Good afternoon Chair Anton and Committee members. The item before you is a historic determination for 1030 Lighthouse Ave. located | 00:35:04 | |
in the Fairway Homes Pinehurst Addition Neighborhood. The residence was commonly known as the LaPorte Mansion, and it was a Queen | 00:35:12 | |
Anne style building constructed in 1895 by a banker named George Brant. | 00:35:20 | |
The house once stood on a six acre lot which has since been subdivided. It was one of the largest residential parcels in the | 00:35:29 | |
Fairway Homes neighborhood. The site also includes A gazebo, a garage slash shed, and two accessory rental units. However, these | 00:35:36 | |
accessory structures were constructed at a time unrelated to the period of significance, 1873 to 1902, and do not match the | 00:35:44 | |
architectural style of the LaPorte Mansion. | 00:35:52 | |
On Friday, May on Friday, May 26th 2023, there was a catastrophic fire which severely damaged the LaPorte Mansion. | 00:36:00 | |
The condition of the property after the fire was declared unsafe and dangerous by the Chief Building Inspector John Kuehl, The | 00:36:10 | |
owner submitted an application for demolition which was filed with the Building Department and issued on July 7th, 2023. The | 00:36:16 | |
remaining dangerous and unsafe historic building was demolished with building department final inspections and completed in August | 00:36:22 | |
of 2023. | 00:36:29 | |
Per Pacific Grove Municipal Code 23.76, point 030, properties may be deleted from the Historic Resources Inventory by initiation | 00:36:36 | |
of the Historic Resources Committee or by the owner of the property, and the and the HRC shall determine whether or not the | 00:36:46 | |
property should be deleted using the valuation criteria in PGMC section 23.76.025. | 00:36:56 | |
In this case, the subject property can no longer meet the evaluation criteria listed in 23.76 point 025 because the structure, | 00:37:07 | |
being severely damaged by fire, was legally demolished and no longer exists. Staff recommends that the Historic Resource Committee | 00:37:15 | |
initiate the historic Determination for 1030 Lighthouse Ave. and remove the property from the Historic Resources Inventory due to | 00:37:22 | |
loss of integrity caused by a catastrophic fire and subsequent demolition. | 00:37:30 | |
This does not constitute a project as defined under SEQUEL section 15378, which addresses organizational administrative activities | 00:37:39 | |
that will not result in direct or indirect physical changes in the environment. This concludes my staff presentation. I'm | 00:37:46 | |
available for any questions that you may have. Thank you. | 00:37:52 | |
And thank you. | 00:38:00 | |
And I will open up for the owner of the project if he's present if he'd like to speak to this. | 00:38:01 | |
Virtually also if he. | 00:38:11 | |
I don't think so. | 00:38:15 | |
OK. At that point then I will open up two public comment. | 00:38:19 | |
Is there anybody that would wish to speak publicly about virtually? | 00:38:26 | |
I see two hands raised. The first speaker will be Lisa Chiani. | 00:38:32 | |
Thank you. | 00:38:38 | |
I would like to request that you consider retaining the site of the LaPorte mansion on the HRI. | 00:38:41 | |
Because of its importance to the to the community, and even if the building's gone, it would be lovely to have a plaque there. | 00:38:51 | |
And and so otherwise it kind of just disappears completely. | 00:39:06 | |
Of course it's disappeared, but. | 00:39:12 | |
But the memory of it disappears in La Jolla. They did this with two wonderful historic properties. | 00:39:16 | |
That were illegally demolished 15 years apart, one in 1975 and one in 1991. | 00:39:25 | |
And. | 00:39:35 | |
It just it's meaningful to the community, I believe and doesn't. | 00:39:36 | |
Is shouldn't be any problem for the. | 00:39:45 | |
City or for the owner for any future plans. So that that would be my request. I hope you will strongly consider that retaining it | 00:39:49 | |
the site itself. | 00:39:57 | |
Thank you. | 00:40:05 | |
Next speaker will be Angela Ranson Dahmer. | 00:40:18 | |
Thank you, Chair and members. It's such a sad state of affairs when it burned down because we did lose a physical piece of | 00:40:23 | |
history. I would somehow like it to be remembered in some way because it is. It's gone now, and people in the generations that are | 00:40:33 | |
alive now will of course remember it. But it would be nice. | 00:40:43 | |
To remember it otherwise too. Anyway, it was. I just wanted to comment on how sad it is. Thank you. | 00:40:53 | |
I see no other hands raised. | 00:41:08 | |
OK. At that I will close public comment, bring it back for discussion. | 00:41:11 | |
We have thoughts. We all feel very sad that it's not there. I'm sure it's a horrible thing, but. | 00:41:18 | |
That's not what we're here for, so. | 00:41:25 | |
Comments from anybody and and our task here is to decide whether we remove it from the HRI. | 00:41:28 | |
I don't think we have any option. It's not there. It would be nice to have something on the site, but I don't think that's | 00:41:36 | |
something we can decide on, you know, historic marker or something, but. | 00:41:43 | |
This, unfortunately, it's just not there. The building's gone. | 00:41:52 | |
So. | 00:41:56 | |
I don't see how we can keep it on. | 00:41:57 | |
Historic resources. | 00:42:00 | |
Yeah, the. | 00:42:03 | |
I completely agree that it had historic importance. A couple of mayors, I believe. | 00:42:05 | |
And airplane crash and. | 00:42:13 | |
The fire, of course, and the movie and all of that should be remembered and recorded and kept on file. I'm sure the Heritage | 00:42:18 | |
Society will do that. | 00:42:24 | |
But I. | 00:42:31 | |
It needs to come off the historic inventory because it's not there anymore. | 00:42:33 | |
Jennifer. | 00:42:39 | |
You know the HRI is a list, and having the address on a list is not going to signify how important that was to everybody. And I | 00:42:44 | |
think it would be nice to be able to do something with the property, but I'd like to see it turned into a park. But anyway, I | 00:42:49 | |
agree we should take it off. | 00:42:54 | |
I also agree, I I would hope that, you know, somebody would do a fundraiser or put a plaque out there or do something to show that | 00:43:02 | |
it was there. But, you know, at this point. | 00:43:07 | |
Yeah, it's true. As as the generations go on, you know, we'll only have pictures and things, but it's an empty, it's an empty lot | 00:43:13 | |
now, so I think it needs to be taken off. | 00:43:18 | |
You know one of the first tasks when when we started looking at the. | 00:43:25 | |
Historic inventory was to see how many properties no longer existed and that was probably all done in one fell meeting. You know | 00:43:30 | |
when they removed, I think there were 60 properties where the the actual house was no longer there. So it was pretty easy and | 00:43:37 | |
unfortunately this is one of our big PG tragedies, but. | 00:43:44 | |
I agree with you Jennifer. If the house isn't there then shouldn't be on the inventory. So with that can we we have a motion to? | 00:43:53 | |
Remove the property at 1030 Lighthouse Ave. from the historic Sorry, can we add in the HRC initiates? | 00:44:03 | |
The words that we, the Historic Resources Committee, initiate the historic determination and the removal. | 00:44:13 | |
And the removal of the property from the historic resources inventory. Thank you. | 00:44:22 | |
May we have a motion to that effect? | 00:44:28 | |
ISO move. | 00:44:31 | |
So moved second. Do we have a second? Thank you. So moved by by greening. Seconded by Grannis. May we have a motion, May we have a | 00:44:33 | |
vote. I mean, all in favour. Aye, Aye. | 00:44:41 | |
Yes, and that would be A50 vote. And again sad to do this, but we had to. | 00:44:49 | |
All right, that takes us back to the item that we that we moved. Now I've lost the number 448, sorry, 448 Gibson. No, I know that, | 00:44:57 | |
but I'm. I need to have it in front of me. | 00:45:03 | |
All that information. | 00:45:11 | |
We moved it. | 00:45:14 | |
All right. So maybe we have a staff report then on item what the new item 8B? | 00:45:16 | |
The subject property is this. The subject property is 448 Gibson Ave. | 00:45:42 | |
It is a single family, one story residence on an approximate 5690 square foot lot in the 5th edition neighborhood. | 00:45:50 | |
City records indicate that the original 1025 square foot house and 360 square foot garage were built in 1939. | 00:46:00 | |
The property is not in an archaeological zone, coastal zone or the Historic Resources Inventory. It is in a area of biological | 00:46:09 | |
significance. | 00:46:14 | |
Watershed. | 00:46:20 | |
The property is not associated with important persons, events or architecture, nor does it exhibit, exhibit unique site or | 00:46:23 | |
locational characteristics. Staff recommends that the Historic Resource Committee find the property, known as 448 Gibson Ave. not | 00:46:30 | |
eligible for the Historic Resources Inventory. This concludes my staff presentation. I'm available for questions that you may | 00:46:37 | |
have. Thank you. | 00:46:43 | |
Thank you and I will open up to the owner if the owner is present, wishes to speak. Are you the owner? Please come forward if you | 00:46:51 | |
if you wish to speak. | 00:46:56 | |
You don't. You don't need to, OK? I'm not. | 00:47:03 | |
You're welcome too. | 00:47:07 | |
Because a couple of years state your name. | 00:47:13 | |
Karen Bushinger. | 00:47:16 | |
I've been here in town a couple years. I love it here, and so it's interesting to go through this process and I understand why the | 00:47:18 | |
historic screening is so important, but I don't think there's anything terribly important about my property other than I live in | 00:47:24 | |
it and I love it. | 00:47:30 | |
Thank you. All right. Thank you. | 00:47:37 | |
Now open to public comment. Do we have any virtual public comment? | 00:47:42 | |
I see, one hand raised. | 00:47:47 | |
Next speaker will be Inga Lorenzen Dahmer. | 00:47:49 | |
Thank you, Chair members. | 00:47:54 | |
I'm looking at this and I guess I don't have enough information because it looks pretty much to me like an original 1939 cottage, | 00:47:58 | |
the little Workman cottages that are absolutely workforce housing that's totally disappearing. | 00:48:07 | |
It's very very similar to mine. In the front I see the same windows. | 00:48:18 | |
And looking through the property file, I the only thing in the property file was just the permit to build it in 1939. So I am | 00:48:23 | |
really wondering. | 00:48:29 | |
I mean, no, I'm not saying that anyone important, important or historically lived there, but these are the cottages that just | 00:48:36 | |
disappear into the dust. | 00:48:42 | |
Same as the big mansions like LaPorte. And I worry about this because this is a 1930 and this looks like a quintessential I mean, | 00:48:48 | |
they've reroofed it from some time, but no permit for that. That shows up. | 00:48:57 | |
But it does look like the same windows and everything else, and I really would. | 00:49:07 | |
I think it's a great example and looks to be original, so is there more information on it? | 00:49:13 | |
Those are just real questions that I would like to ask that it just is easy to put it on a consent agenda and say no historical | 00:49:23 | |
importance, get rid of it. | 00:49:29 | |
I think it could be very important for the history of our town, so I'm putting that out there for you to consider and I thank you | 00:49:36 | |
very much. | 00:49:41 | |
As you know, their hands raised. All right, I'll close public comment, bring it back for discussion and I'll start with you, | 00:49:55 | |
Jennifer. | 00:49:59 | |
Light off. Hi. OK, after looking at this house and I went by to look at it. There are a couple of things that you can't see the | 00:50:07 | |
permit information, but for example, the corner window I'm sure was added after the house was originally broke because corner | 00:50:15 | |
windows were just not something that were put in houses in 1939. I'm curious about the original siding too. I don't know what that | 00:50:23 | |
siding is because I didn't go touch it, but there was nothing that I could see in the permit file that talked about. | 00:50:30 | |
Deciding, but I believe just by the corner window that has had alterations that could make it not be a historic building. | 00:50:39 | |
Thank you. | 00:50:52 | |
Yeah, I'm specifically thinking I'm, I'm not, I'm just not sure that those windows are original. I I agree with Jennifer. I I | 00:50:55 | |
think now the siding, I'm not sure it could be back that far, but the windows I definitely think have been added on. | 00:51:03 | |
Yes, I've It doesn't seem to be any particular architectural features on it that would. | 00:51:16 | |
Give it and the original age. It looks it has been altered to me. | 00:51:22 | |
Mr. Steers. | 00:51:29 | |
It's a very handsome building and would fit very well on the historic inventory if we could leave it on there, but it's not on. | 00:51:31 | |
No, I know that's what we're considering. But the date, the construction date 1939 is way past the. | 00:51:42 | |
The cut off date in the historic context statement for. | 00:51:53 | |
Homes of historic importance. | 00:52:01 | |
And I don't see how we can leave it on. | 00:52:06 | |
I think it needs to come off by ordinance, but not because there's anything wrong with it. | 00:52:10 | |
So yes, I think maybe we should consider it for the neighborhood. | 00:52:17 | |
List, that would be fine. | 00:52:22 | |
Put that in the words that we haven't gotten to that neighborhood. | 00:52:30 | |
I actually looked in the Heritage Society files and there were there wasn't even a file on it. So that means we have no | 00:52:36 | |
information, which probably means there's no more information than what we've been presented with here. | 00:52:41 | |
Because we do try to help provide. | 00:52:47 | |
So I I I mean, there are a lot of houses that look like this. I realized that. | 00:52:52 | |
You know, I listening to Inga that you know, we're losing some cottages, but we also have to move into the 21st century and | 00:52:57 | |
sometimes our houses are too small for our families nowadays and I don't see it as you know, as an outstanding example thinking | 00:53:05 | |
that we're trying to condense our HRI list. | 00:53:12 | |
And keep the the more outstanding houses and so I you know, since there isn't anybody. | 00:53:20 | |
What is it? | 00:53:30 | |
No, persons important that were associated events architecturally not important particularly all of those things. I don't think | 00:53:32 | |
rise raises it to the level that we would put it on the inventory. So I am. | 00:53:39 | |
For. | 00:53:46 | |
Saying that it's not eligible. | 00:53:50 | |
Which is what we're asked to do. | 00:53:53 | |
Yes, the Heritage Society doesn't collect information. | 00:53:57 | |
Newer than 1926, just because that has always been the city's. | 00:54:02 | |
Cut off date for historic we we actually have a lot of information beyond it. It's it may not be used, you know sometimes it | 00:54:07 | |
happens by accident or for a particular reason, but oftentimes it just isn't there. | 00:54:14 | |
Right. | 00:54:23 | |
So do we have a motion to? | 00:54:24 | |
To recommend that the property known as 448 Gibson not be eligible for the HRI. | 00:54:29 | |
So moved. | 00:54:36 | |
2nd. | 00:54:38 | |
Steers moved and greening seconded. And maybe we have a vote, please. All in favor, aye? | 00:54:40 | |
All right, the vote is 50. | 00:54:49 | |
And we've determined that it's not eligible for the HRI. | 00:54:52 | |
And we're being thanked over there. All right, that concludes our. | 00:54:58 | |
Our. | 00:55:05 | |
Agenda for today. | 00:55:06 | |
So thank you everybody, for coming. Unless somebody has something to say, I don't see anything. So our meeting is now adjourned. | 00:55:09 | |
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All right. Good afternoon, everyone. | 00:00:15 | |
I'd like to welcome you to the April 24th, 2024 meeting of the Historic Resource Committee. | 00:00:18 | |
And may the record please reflect that all five members are present. | 00:00:27 | |
And we'll move to the item, the second item which is the approval of the agenda and I'd like to move 11A. | 00:00:33 | |
To be heard right after the general public comment. So it'd be item number. | 00:00:42 | |
5B kind of like. | 00:00:48 | |
And that gives Mr. Perrault some time to speak to us. | 00:00:52 | |
So with that, may I have a motion to approve the? | 00:00:58 | |
Amended agenda please. So moved. Thank you second. | 00:01:01 | |
Moved by steers and seconded by greening. | 00:01:07 | |
Maybe we have a vote all in favor. | 00:01:13 | |
All right. That's A50 vote. Thank you. Let's go on to item 3, committee and staff announcements. Do we have any staff | 00:01:18 | |
announcements? | 00:01:22 | |
Staff has one announcement. Associate planner Laurel O'halloran announced her retirement after 16 years of service and is no | 00:01:27 | |
longer working for the city. | 00:01:32 | |
Her last day was on April 18th and she enjoyed her time with the city Pacific Grove and is grateful to have worked with such | 00:01:38 | |
wonderful people and wishes all the best. | 00:01:43 | |
Hear that? No, Laurel. | 00:01:49 | |
Do we have any committee announcements? | 00:01:53 | |
All right. Let's move on. We'll go on to item number. | 00:01:56 | |
Four, and that would be our council liaison announcements. And Mayor Peak, thank you as always for being present. | 00:01:59 | |
You chair Anton committee members and again excellent attendance. I really appreciate you taking the time today. Just a few things | 00:02:09 | |
that council recently on took action. On our last meeting we hired Matt Morganson as the incoming City manager. He's currently the | 00:02:17 | |
Assistant City manager. | 00:02:24 | |
In the city of Marina and will soon be saying goodbye to Mr. Perrault whose last day in the office will be May May 2nd. And he's | 00:02:32 | |
assured me that he will be spending more time in the saddle literally in the saddle on his horse in in a knee found retirement. We | 00:02:42 | |
thank him for all his efforts. Also council recently heard from public works about the. | 00:02:52 | |
Concepts for the five way intersection that's proposed to be upgraded at that Cedar Sunset and Congress and we're going to hear | 00:03:03 | |
more about the council asked For more information about the concepts. Also council approved the Chinese pavilion at El Marie **** | 00:03:14 | |
Park as to be put on the capital improvement program and also music in the Jewel park to be put on. | 00:03:24 | |
As special events upcoming this, this year. And lastly the Coastal Commission, if you haven't heard it's in the newspaper, Coastal | 00:03:36 | |
Commission approve the American Tin Cannery hotel and commercial project with additional conditions and in the future. | 00:03:45 | |
I feel a little silly saying that the one of the biggest efforts this year is the housing element and we have spearheaded by. | 00:03:57 | |
A higher kind of community development department and so we'll be hearing more about that particularly in in June and July and | 00:04:08 | |
upcoming it's budget time again and so. | 00:04:14 | |
I'll expect to see more. | 00:04:22 | |
Talk about. | 00:04:23 | |
Helping our infrastructure complete streets safe, safer Routes to School. | 00:04:26 | |
That's all. | 00:04:32 | |
Thank you very much. | 00:04:33 | |
All right, moving to item 5, which is general public comment, This must deal with matters subject to the jurisdiction of the city | 00:04:37 | |
and of the Historic Resources Committee, and these have to be items that are not on the regular agenda. | 00:04:45 | |
So if you wish to speak, you have 3 minutes and I ask, we have some audience people I ask you to come forward. So is there anybody | 00:04:53 | |
that would like to speak under general public comment? | 00:04:59 | |
All right. Any virtual speakers? I see, no hands raised. | 00:05:07 | |
OK, then I'm going to close general public comment and we'll move now to item 11A, which is our presentation by our City Manager. | 00:05:13 | |
So Mr. Prault, it's all yours. | 00:05:18 | |
Yes, thank you, Madam Chair. | 00:05:24 | |
That you do, it's a great contribution to the city. | 00:05:34 | |
And for me, it's a little bit of personal interest, although I have spent nearly 40 years in municipal government and city | 00:05:39 | |
management in particular. | 00:05:45 | |
My background is actually history. That's what I left college with, is a bachelor's in history. | 00:05:52 | |
I thought I was going to be a history teacher, but I got lost along the way and ended up in the municipal management field. | 00:06:01 | |
Anyway, what I'm here to do today is to review with you the work program, the community goals, priority setting process that the | 00:06:11 | |
Council has continued to do in anticipation of. | 00:06:20 | |
The actual budget process, which is currently underway. | 00:06:31 | |
Goal setting, as well as the development of priority areas and the work plan are extremely important to the entire organization. | 00:06:37 | |
And that by that I mean that the goals and the work, the priority areas and work program that is dotted by the council provides | 00:06:49 | |
directions to the city's boards and commissions and employees as to what the council deems as being important and. | 00:07:01 | |
To pursue over a two year period of time. | 00:07:15 | |
And as a result of that. | 00:07:19 | |
The work program and and goals have been developed and used as a guideline for the development of the budget itself. As you all | 00:07:23 | |
probably know of, a budget actually is the the road map for how the city is operated during the course of a fiscal year, including | 00:07:32 | |
the use of. | 00:07:40 | |
Uh, resources of both person power and. | 00:07:49 | |
And day-to-day activities to support. | 00:07:56 | |
The the goals and work program progress. | 00:07:59 | |
About in January of 2023 actually, the Council retained a group that facilitated goal setting and the development of work program | 00:08:06 | |
for a two year period of time. It is important that once that is done. | 00:08:16 | |
That the Council checks in on the progress of their goals and work program and that is in fact what the Council did on February | 00:08:28 | |
28th. | 00:08:33 | |
They took a look at the four major areas of. | 00:08:39 | |
Priority areas of their work program and took a look as to what progress and miles they made, but with both the goals in | 00:08:45 | |
milestones and provided direction to modify those goals and progress programs where necessary to ensure that by the end of that | 00:08:53 | |
two year period. | 00:09:01 | |
Their work program and goals will be met. I want to say that once a work program is adopted, it, along with the budget really | 00:09:10 | |
guide the way for the city's operations as I've noted. But it's important to realize that they are both living documents that as | 00:09:21 | |
you go through the operationally or things will come up and obviously items, milestones, even goals themselves. | 00:09:32 | |
May need to be adjusted in order to meet the priority areas. | 00:09:43 | |
And with that, I just would like to cover briefly what those four priority areas are and what the goals, milestones. | 00:09:50 | |
Have been and what kind of progress has been made today made to date. So beginning with that, it's up on the screen. | 00:10:01 | |
The first priority area that I'd like to cover is recreation services. This is extremely important for the for the council and as | 00:10:10 | |
you can see, the number one goal there was to expand. | 00:10:18 | |
Hours and services of the youth center. This was had almost immediately undertaken in 2023, and some of those milestones included | 00:10:26 | |
the development of a comprehensive recreation plan for the City Council. | 00:10:37 | |
And to include expanded services and activities programs. | 00:10:48 | |
And. | 00:10:54 | |
To receive counsel and input, I want to say that that report was completed and we're in the process of implementing it right now. | 00:10:57 | |
That means increased recreational services at many of our facilities, primarily the youth activity center across the way and that | 00:11:07 | |
that has been pretty significant. | 00:11:16 | |
We're in the process of continuing to add additional staff to carry out those programs just about every day. They offer some kind | 00:11:26 | |
of after school program as you may know. | 00:11:32 | |
But in addition to that, they offer special several specialized programs for different interest groups of all ages, including | 00:11:39 | |
dance, kickboxing. | 00:11:45 | |
Sporting activities and a number of other things. One of the items that was extremely important for the council was they expand | 00:11:52 | |
the use of the swimming pool down at Lovers Point and you'll continue to see. | 00:12:00 | |
See that this coming year, not only will we be more open for public swim in addition to actually assisting with. | 00:12:08 | |
Swimming instruction. So that's that's continuing along and we've made good progress up to this point. | 00:12:22 | |
We're kind of in in between. | 00:12:33 | |
In that in that final quarter where we're adding more staff in anticipation of this Summers programs, one of the things we have in | 00:12:36 | |
process and are yet to complete is to evaluate the fees for use of rental. | 00:12:46 | |
And rental of city facilities. This would include Chautauqua Hall and the Community Center, etc. | 00:12:56 | |
That report will come back to the City Council before the end of this fiscal year and then we'll hope to receive the direction to | 00:13:05 | |
implement that fee schedule. If we can go to the next slide, please see if the. | 00:13:15 | |
There we go. The next work area is a big one, an important one. It's infrastructure. | 00:13:29 | |
And ultimately, what we're talking about there is to enhance the process prioritization, scheduling and completion of CIP | 00:13:35 | |
projects. | 00:13:41 | |
I think what you'll see is we approach this new budget season, you're going to see a little bit different approach to our capital | 00:13:48 | |
improvement programs trying to move to a a more defined multi year approach to capital improvement planning and I think you'll see | 00:13:56 | |
that public works will. | 00:14:03 | |
Bringing out a a more refined color, capital improvement projects plan during this budget season. | 00:14:12 | |
One of the things we've done is, and it's been very important to the council, is to actually select. | 00:14:23 | |
And a or develop an assessment of our main city facilities. | 00:14:33 | |
The the main city, city facilities obviously include this building, the youth center, the police station, the fire station. | 00:14:40 | |
And also the public works corporation Yard. | 00:14:49 | |
And we've hired and retained a a professional group to come in and do an assessment of those facilities. | 00:14:54 | |
Several of the facilities are beginning to age and we need to take a kind of long term vision approach. | 00:15:02 | |
To ensure that those the existing facilities are maintained to serve the not only the cities. | 00:15:12 | |
Current needs, but its future needs as well. The other thing that I've expressed to the public Works Director that I hope will be | 00:15:23 | |
addressed is you know the city is looking at possibly growing from time to time staff their staff changes and modification of what | 00:15:32 | |
directions we go in. So I'm I've asked them to take a look also to. | 00:15:42 | |
Come up with some idea as to how we can augment our existing facilities to accommodate accommodate future staff needs. | 00:15:52 | |
Perhaps one of the biggest things that we're about to undertake is the Complete streets policy, something that they're spending a | 00:16:05 | |
lot of interest in the community about and in fact we are just about to issue a request for qualifications to retain a firm that | 00:16:14 | |
will take a look at at getting a comprehensive. | 00:16:23 | |
UH, Complete Streets Policy. UH developed and put in place for the entire community. | 00:16:34 | |
And then going on to our next slide which is environmental stewardship working and living in this community. I I need not to tell | 00:16:41 | |
you how important this priority area is. We have such a tremendous environmental assets within the community that need to be | 00:16:51 | |
protected and and preserve this this in would include. | 00:17:02 | |
Everything from the the urban forest as well as obviously our parks. Some of our parks are in great pristine conditions, some of | 00:17:12 | |
them need additional work. Obviously we have the coastline and all the critters that inhabit the area and their special I know to | 00:17:22 | |
this particular. | 00:17:31 | |
City and location. So as I've mentioned, we need to do our best to ensure that those assets are maintained. | 00:17:42 | |
An important part of that is to initiate and complete a climate action plan. There's a subcommittee of the council and some | 00:17:53 | |
members from the BNRC that are working currently on that. | 00:18:01 | |
Plan It has been a little bit slow making progress. As you'll note. In the far end of it, it says it's only 50% completed. | 00:18:11 | |
I met. | 00:18:21 | |
With was was speaking with a couple of members of the subcommittee, and I know that they're very interested in retaining some | 00:18:24 | |
professional assistance to help complete the the proposed climate Action plan that in turn would return to the BNRC and then to | 00:18:31 | |
the City Council for review and adoption. | 00:18:38 | |
2nd is the initiation and completion of the citywide tree improvement and management plan. | 00:18:48 | |
A lot of this has focused recently on the. | 00:18:58 | |
Comprehensive. | 00:19:04 | |
Review of title Title 12 and within the municipal code as it relates to you know, the care and pruning and. | 00:19:05 | |
Permitting of trees and the removal of trees when they become necessary this. | 00:19:17 | |
Staff and the BNRC have both worked hard on getting to a point where I think they have a. | 00:19:25 | |
Final set of recommendations that they're going to forward to the City Council. They had a meeting. | 00:19:35 | |
Or they're having a meeting this month that will complete their review and then it'll be forwarded on to the City Council. | 00:19:42 | |
For further further review and final action. | 00:19:51 | |
Were the goal for us is to plan and maintain 150 native trees on public property and public right of way. | 00:19:56 | |
You know, it's been a little bit slow going for us due to some of the staff resources that we've had committed in different | 00:20:06 | |
locations, but I will tell you that we're beginning to make progress now. | 00:20:15 | |
As some of you may know, there was a great planning program earlier this month of involve 50 volunteers, no more several | 00:20:25 | |
volunteers and they accomplished plant the planting of 50 trees out of George Washington Park. We're also going to be bringing on | 00:20:33 | |
additional staff. I think we're about ready to make that selection that will help with the nurturing of the staff itself, I mean | 00:20:42 | |
of the trees themselves. | 00:20:50 | |
In terms of staffing, one of the things that the Council has asked us to look at is actually the retention of a full time arborist | 00:20:59 | |
or forester that will be dedicated to the maintenance of a of the urban forest because it is so important and that's something | 00:21:08 | |
that will be taken up as a part of the budget. | 00:21:16 | |
The protection of wildlife and habitat. | 00:21:27 | |
Again, the BNRC has been working with staff on a number of components of this work area, which includes the development of an | 00:21:31 | |
actual wildlife protection plan. And I I believe we're at a point where the deck is going to be sent to the BNRC for their review | 00:21:41 | |
and final recommendation on to the council as well. | 00:21:50 | |
I will say that a major part of that was an off council authorized increase in our community safety officers with a special | 00:22:01 | |
emphasis that they will do some of the enforcement along the coastline and some of our forest areas, especially looking out for | 00:22:11 | |
wildlife protection. And I'm pleased to report that three of those Csos are out there in the field in each of them do spend. | 00:22:22 | |
A portion of their day. | 00:22:33 | |
Uh, going into the areas where wildlife is present, it's been especially important during this last popping season, which is | 00:22:35 | |
underway as we speak. And the fencing, as you know, has been put up in the signage, I think is helping out there. And the CS OS | 00:22:44 | |
have been down there doing some education as well. So I think that's great. We need to still work on the draft and issue an RFQ | 00:22:53 | |
for the local coastal plan amendments. | 00:23:01 | |
And these amendments deal primarily in in the way they're being looked at. | 00:23:10 | |
Is is again to to do what we can to protect wildlife? | 00:23:17 | |
We've hired the consultant to conduct a biological assessment of George Washington Park and that's underway. That is a full year | 00:23:25 | |
long process. So we won't see the results of that until probably January or February of of next year actually. | 00:23:36 | |
And then to our 4th area. | 00:23:48 | |
Which is housing. And as you just heard from the mayor, housing, the housing element continues to be a major, major work activity | 00:23:54 | |
undertaken by the city. | 00:24:01 | |
We're in the process of updating the housing element. At present it's a six year, six cycle. | 00:24:10 | |
Each cycle is 8 years long. | 00:24:19 | |
I must say that a housing element is one of the required housing element required elements to be updated. | 00:24:23 | |
Within the general the. | 00:24:33 | |
General Plan. The General Plan document itself doesn't even it isn't even required to be updated as frequently as the Housing | 00:24:38 | |
Plan. | 00:24:42 | |
The housing plan is essentially tied to regional housing improvement numbers. | 00:24:47 | |
That are provided to us from the state and through the the regional organ organization of governments. | 00:24:56 | |
Our goal is as you've often heard referred to as the arena numbers. We have to within that eight-year plan be able to demonstrate | 00:25:06 | |
that we have the the capacity to to. | 00:25:15 | |
Actually provide an additional 1200 units of housing within the city and that's a big jump. It's never been that high in the past. | 00:25:26 | |
I think it's important to remember that the housing element is is a planning document. | 00:25:37 | |
You know and it it will depend on a lot of factors whether or not those, the 1200 homes actually end up being produced, but we | 00:25:44 | |
have to have the capacity. | 00:25:51 | |
And in case those opportunities to present themselves and we've been working on that for probably. | 00:25:58 | |
Year and a half, at least, maybe two years, We had a requirement to submit the draft of the housing element in November. That's | 00:26:07 | |
been completed staff. We received initial comments from the state and we've revised the draft housing element accordingly. We're | 00:26:17 | |
doing in a broad environmental document because it is such a sweeping document. | 00:26:27 | |
And will ultimately require rezoning of several areas or properties within the city to ensure that we actually have the capacity | 00:26:37 | |
to accomplish. | 00:26:44 | |
The 1200 units only when we've completed. | 00:26:53 | |
The both the EIR and the update to the zoning for the various properties, can we actually stand in line to get certification? | 00:27:00 | |
And we're hoping that that will be completed by early next year. | 00:27:16 | |
A couple of other areas within housing that we're looking at. Obviously we're trying to grandfather in existing non conforming AD | 00:27:24 | |
use. We've got a ways to go with that that will help with the production numbers that were being saddled with and finally. | 00:27:35 | |
Made another major goal for the city is the development of an affordable housing project that's kind of at the end down here. | 00:27:48 | |
And the council wanted the the city to be assured that that stays on the map. Sometimes affordable housing, a project of that of | 00:27:58 | |
this nature, is hard to do. | 00:28:05 | |
But the the City Council would still like to. | 00:28:12 | |
Pursue it. It generally means that you have to come up with a location and a partner to be able to implement an affordable housing | 00:28:18 | |
project, and normally. | 00:28:25 | |
The these programs will need a great deal of also financial assistance. | 00:28:34 | |
So with that, the city did get, city staff did get direction to go ahead and modify our budget, a couple of areas that the council | 00:28:43 | |
wanted us to review, as I've already mentioned the increase of the OR to take a look at. | 00:28:54 | |
The addition of a full time Foresters slash. | 00:29:07 | |
Arborist and so we're looking at that and other things we're looking at is improving our our fire delivery services delivery | 00:29:15 | |
system with the addition of advanced life support. We haven't had that in the past. So we're looking at moving forward there and | 00:29:23 | |
there are a number of other areas. | 00:29:31 | |
That we will be reviewing at the Council's direction during the budget process. | 00:29:40 | |
So my point here was just to share all that with you. It's a very busy time for the entire city. | 00:29:49 | |
Certainly doesn't take anything away from what you do. Again, I want to thank you for what you do. Your group is is just slightly | 00:29:56 | |
different than some of the others. | 00:30:01 | |
You have two capacities. Obviously you're involved in the permitting review process, which is a bit different than some of our | 00:30:08 | |
other community commissions and committees, but we also another council looks to you to perform an advisory role as well. | 00:30:17 | |
And with that, I'll conclude my presentation and I can answer any questions you might have. | 00:30:28 | |
Thank you very much. And do we have any questions? | 00:30:35 | |
None that can be. | 00:30:42 | |
Dealt with at this time? No. It's a lot of information. Awful lot, yes, but I certainly appreciate your patience with it. | 00:30:45 | |
And thank you for taking the time to come in and thank you for just being here for the last, I don't know how long, six months, | 00:30:56 | |
six months. I mean we appreciate your help. I know the council's been very pleased with with your help and I you will be missed. | 00:31:03 | |
What can I say? Well, I, I, you know and that's very kind, but I've got to say you've got a great professional coming in and I | 00:31:10 | |
just think that the partnership between the councils, the. | 00:31:18 | |
Committees, commissions and staff that everything is is moving in a very positive direction. | 00:31:25 | |
So thank you, thank you for that. And I have to get upstairs for another meeting, so meeting. | 00:31:33 | |
All right. Thank you again. All right, well, let's move on now to item number 7, which is reports requiring action has three | 00:31:41 | |
parts. | 00:31:45 | |
This is on the consent agenda. | 00:31:51 | |
Is there anybody on the? | 00:31:54 | |
Committee that would like to pull an item from the consent agenda. | 00:31:56 | |
Seeing none, is there anybody from the audience that would like to pull an item from the consent agenda? | 00:32:03 | |
Seeing none, what about from our virtual audience? I see one hand raised. The next speaker will be Inga Lorenzen Dahmer. | 00:32:11 | |
Thank you. Could we get back to a full screen on the other rather than half with the council goals? | 00:32:26 | |
The chamber rather than half of the screen. Well, the screen is the council goals anyway. | 00:32:36 | |
I would like to pull. | 00:32:43 | |
7B please. | 00:32:46 | |
448 Gibson. | 00:32:50 | |
Thank you. | 00:32:53 | |
Anybody else? | 00:33:00 | |
Any other members from the public? | 00:33:33 | |
Want to pull, and I see no other hands raised. All right, I will take 7B and we will move that to. It'll become new 8B. | 00:33:35 | |
That be correct? | 00:33:44 | |
Yes. | 00:33:50 | |
All right, so 7B becomes 8B. | 00:33:52 | |
So with that exception. | 00:33:57 | |
Do we have a motion to approve the consent agenda with the? | 00:34:00 | |
Removal of. | 00:34:06 | |
7D we have a motion. | 00:34:08 | |
Hi, Somu. Thank you. | 00:34:14 | |
We have a second. | 00:34:18 | |
Seconded, Yes, thank you. So it's been moved by Grandison. Seconded by Steers. | 00:34:19 | |
To approve the consent agenda with the removal of item number 7B. | 00:34:28 | |
May we have a vote please All in favor. | 00:34:32 | |
Anybody against? All right, so that was a A50 vote. | 00:34:36 | |
So we will move that, then it'll become eight. | 00:34:43 | |
All right, that takes us to the regular agenda. | 00:34:47 | |
And we have one item. | 00:34:51 | |
#8 | 00:34:53 | |
and we maybe have a staff report please. | 00:34:56 | |
Good afternoon Chair Anton and Committee members. The item before you is a historic determination for 1030 Lighthouse Ave. located | 00:35:04 | |
in the Fairway Homes Pinehurst Addition Neighborhood. The residence was commonly known as the LaPorte Mansion, and it was a Queen | 00:35:12 | |
Anne style building constructed in 1895 by a banker named George Brant. | 00:35:20 | |
The house once stood on a six acre lot which has since been subdivided. It was one of the largest residential parcels in the | 00:35:29 | |
Fairway Homes neighborhood. The site also includes A gazebo, a garage slash shed, and two accessory rental units. However, these | 00:35:36 | |
accessory structures were constructed at a time unrelated to the period of significance, 1873 to 1902, and do not match the | 00:35:44 | |
architectural style of the LaPorte Mansion. | 00:35:52 | |
On Friday, May on Friday, May 26th 2023, there was a catastrophic fire which severely damaged the LaPorte Mansion. | 00:36:00 | |
The condition of the property after the fire was declared unsafe and dangerous by the Chief Building Inspector John Kuehl, The | 00:36:10 | |
owner submitted an application for demolition which was filed with the Building Department and issued on July 7th, 2023. The | 00:36:16 | |
remaining dangerous and unsafe historic building was demolished with building department final inspections and completed in August | 00:36:22 | |
of 2023. | 00:36:29 | |
Per Pacific Grove Municipal Code 23.76, point 030, properties may be deleted from the Historic Resources Inventory by initiation | 00:36:36 | |
of the Historic Resources Committee or by the owner of the property, and the and the HRC shall determine whether or not the | 00:36:46 | |
property should be deleted using the valuation criteria in PGMC section 23.76.025. | 00:36:56 | |
In this case, the subject property can no longer meet the evaluation criteria listed in 23.76 point 025 because the structure, | 00:37:07 | |
being severely damaged by fire, was legally demolished and no longer exists. Staff recommends that the Historic Resource Committee | 00:37:15 | |
initiate the historic Determination for 1030 Lighthouse Ave. and remove the property from the Historic Resources Inventory due to | 00:37:22 | |
loss of integrity caused by a catastrophic fire and subsequent demolition. | 00:37:30 | |
This does not constitute a project as defined under SEQUEL section 15378, which addresses organizational administrative activities | 00:37:39 | |
that will not result in direct or indirect physical changes in the environment. This concludes my staff presentation. I'm | 00:37:46 | |
available for any questions that you may have. Thank you. | 00:37:52 | |
And thank you. | 00:38:00 | |
And I will open up for the owner of the project if he's present if he'd like to speak to this. | 00:38:01 | |
Virtually also if he. | 00:38:11 | |
I don't think so. | 00:38:15 | |
OK. At that point then I will open up two public comment. | 00:38:19 | |
Is there anybody that would wish to speak publicly about virtually? | 00:38:26 | |
I see two hands raised. The first speaker will be Lisa Chiani. | 00:38:32 | |
Thank you. | 00:38:38 | |
I would like to request that you consider retaining the site of the LaPorte mansion on the HRI. | 00:38:41 | |
Because of its importance to the to the community, and even if the building's gone, it would be lovely to have a plaque there. | 00:38:51 | |
And and so otherwise it kind of just disappears completely. | 00:39:06 | |
Of course it's disappeared, but. | 00:39:12 | |
But the memory of it disappears in La Jolla. They did this with two wonderful historic properties. | 00:39:16 | |
That were illegally demolished 15 years apart, one in 1975 and one in 1991. | 00:39:25 | |
And. | 00:39:35 | |
It just it's meaningful to the community, I believe and doesn't. | 00:39:36 | |
Is shouldn't be any problem for the. | 00:39:45 | |
City or for the owner for any future plans. So that that would be my request. I hope you will strongly consider that retaining it | 00:39:49 | |
the site itself. | 00:39:57 | |
Thank you. | 00:40:05 | |
Next speaker will be Angela Ranson Dahmer. | 00:40:18 | |
Thank you, Chair and members. It's such a sad state of affairs when it burned down because we did lose a physical piece of | 00:40:23 | |
history. I would somehow like it to be remembered in some way because it is. It's gone now, and people in the generations that are | 00:40:33 | |
alive now will of course remember it. But it would be nice. | 00:40:43 | |
To remember it otherwise too. Anyway, it was. I just wanted to comment on how sad it is. Thank you. | 00:40:53 | |
I see no other hands raised. | 00:41:08 | |
OK. At that I will close public comment, bring it back for discussion. | 00:41:11 | |
We have thoughts. We all feel very sad that it's not there. I'm sure it's a horrible thing, but. | 00:41:18 | |
That's not what we're here for, so. | 00:41:25 | |
Comments from anybody and and our task here is to decide whether we remove it from the HRI. | 00:41:28 | |
I don't think we have any option. It's not there. It would be nice to have something on the site, but I don't think that's | 00:41:36 | |
something we can decide on, you know, historic marker or something, but. | 00:41:43 | |
This, unfortunately, it's just not there. The building's gone. | 00:41:52 | |
So. | 00:41:56 | |
I don't see how we can keep it on. | 00:41:57 | |
Historic resources. | 00:42:00 | |
Yeah, the. | 00:42:03 | |
I completely agree that it had historic importance. A couple of mayors, I believe. | 00:42:05 | |
And airplane crash and. | 00:42:13 | |
The fire, of course, and the movie and all of that should be remembered and recorded and kept on file. I'm sure the Heritage | 00:42:18 | |
Society will do that. | 00:42:24 | |
But I. | 00:42:31 | |
It needs to come off the historic inventory because it's not there anymore. | 00:42:33 | |
Jennifer. | 00:42:39 | |
You know the HRI is a list, and having the address on a list is not going to signify how important that was to everybody. And I | 00:42:44 | |
think it would be nice to be able to do something with the property, but I'd like to see it turned into a park. But anyway, I | 00:42:49 | |
agree we should take it off. | 00:42:54 | |
I also agree, I I would hope that, you know, somebody would do a fundraiser or put a plaque out there or do something to show that | 00:43:02 | |
it was there. But, you know, at this point. | 00:43:07 | |
Yeah, it's true. As as the generations go on, you know, we'll only have pictures and things, but it's an empty, it's an empty lot | 00:43:13 | |
now, so I think it needs to be taken off. | 00:43:18 | |
You know one of the first tasks when when we started looking at the. | 00:43:25 | |
Historic inventory was to see how many properties no longer existed and that was probably all done in one fell meeting. You know | 00:43:30 | |
when they removed, I think there were 60 properties where the the actual house was no longer there. So it was pretty easy and | 00:43:37 | |
unfortunately this is one of our big PG tragedies, but. | 00:43:44 | |
I agree with you Jennifer. If the house isn't there then shouldn't be on the inventory. So with that can we we have a motion to? | 00:43:53 | |
Remove the property at 1030 Lighthouse Ave. from the historic Sorry, can we add in the HRC initiates? | 00:44:03 | |
The words that we, the Historic Resources Committee, initiate the historic determination and the removal. | 00:44:13 | |
And the removal of the property from the historic resources inventory. Thank you. | 00:44:22 | |
May we have a motion to that effect? | 00:44:28 | |
ISO move. | 00:44:31 | |
So moved second. Do we have a second? Thank you. So moved by by greening. Seconded by Grannis. May we have a motion, May we have a | 00:44:33 | |
vote. I mean, all in favour. Aye, Aye. | 00:44:41 | |
Yes, and that would be A50 vote. And again sad to do this, but we had to. | 00:44:49 | |
All right, that takes us back to the item that we that we moved. Now I've lost the number 448, sorry, 448 Gibson. No, I know that, | 00:44:57 | |
but I'm. I need to have it in front of me. | 00:45:03 | |
All that information. | 00:45:11 | |
We moved it. | 00:45:14 | |
All right. So maybe we have a staff report then on item what the new item 8B? | 00:45:16 | |
The subject property is this. The subject property is 448 Gibson Ave. | 00:45:42 | |
It is a single family, one story residence on an approximate 5690 square foot lot in the 5th edition neighborhood. | 00:45:50 | |
City records indicate that the original 1025 square foot house and 360 square foot garage were built in 1939. | 00:46:00 | |
The property is not in an archaeological zone, coastal zone or the Historic Resources Inventory. It is in a area of biological | 00:46:09 | |
significance. | 00:46:14 | |
Watershed. | 00:46:20 | |
The property is not associated with important persons, events or architecture, nor does it exhibit, exhibit unique site or | 00:46:23 | |
locational characteristics. Staff recommends that the Historic Resource Committee find the property, known as 448 Gibson Ave. not | 00:46:30 | |
eligible for the Historic Resources Inventory. This concludes my staff presentation. I'm available for questions that you may | 00:46:37 | |
have. Thank you. | 00:46:43 | |
Thank you and I will open up to the owner if the owner is present, wishes to speak. Are you the owner? Please come forward if you | 00:46:51 | |
if you wish to speak. | 00:46:56 | |
You don't. You don't need to, OK? I'm not. | 00:47:03 | |
You're welcome too. | 00:47:07 | |
Because a couple of years state your name. | 00:47:13 | |
Karen Bushinger. | 00:47:16 | |
I've been here in town a couple years. I love it here, and so it's interesting to go through this process and I understand why the | 00:47:18 | |
historic screening is so important, but I don't think there's anything terribly important about my property other than I live in | 00:47:24 | |
it and I love it. | 00:47:30 | |
Thank you. All right. Thank you. | 00:47:37 | |
Now open to public comment. Do we have any virtual public comment? | 00:47:42 | |
I see, one hand raised. | 00:47:47 | |
Next speaker will be Inga Lorenzen Dahmer. | 00:47:49 | |
Thank you, Chair members. | 00:47:54 | |
I'm looking at this and I guess I don't have enough information because it looks pretty much to me like an original 1939 cottage, | 00:47:58 | |
the little Workman cottages that are absolutely workforce housing that's totally disappearing. | 00:48:07 | |
It's very very similar to mine. In the front I see the same windows. | 00:48:18 | |
And looking through the property file, I the only thing in the property file was just the permit to build it in 1939. So I am | 00:48:23 | |
really wondering. | 00:48:29 | |
I mean, no, I'm not saying that anyone important, important or historically lived there, but these are the cottages that just | 00:48:36 | |
disappear into the dust. | 00:48:42 | |
Same as the big mansions like LaPorte. And I worry about this because this is a 1930 and this looks like a quintessential I mean, | 00:48:48 | |
they've reroofed it from some time, but no permit for that. That shows up. | 00:48:57 | |
But it does look like the same windows and everything else, and I really would. | 00:49:07 | |
I think it's a great example and looks to be original, so is there more information on it? | 00:49:13 | |
Those are just real questions that I would like to ask that it just is easy to put it on a consent agenda and say no historical | 00:49:23 | |
importance, get rid of it. | 00:49:29 | |
I think it could be very important for the history of our town, so I'm putting that out there for you to consider and I thank you | 00:49:36 | |
very much. | 00:49:41 | |
As you know, their hands raised. All right, I'll close public comment, bring it back for discussion and I'll start with you, | 00:49:55 | |
Jennifer. | 00:49:59 | |
Light off. Hi. OK, after looking at this house and I went by to look at it. There are a couple of things that you can't see the | 00:50:07 | |
permit information, but for example, the corner window I'm sure was added after the house was originally broke because corner | 00:50:15 | |
windows were just not something that were put in houses in 1939. I'm curious about the original siding too. I don't know what that | 00:50:23 | |
siding is because I didn't go touch it, but there was nothing that I could see in the permit file that talked about. | 00:50:30 | |
Deciding, but I believe just by the corner window that has had alterations that could make it not be a historic building. | 00:50:39 | |
Thank you. | 00:50:52 | |
Yeah, I'm specifically thinking I'm, I'm not, I'm just not sure that those windows are original. I I agree with Jennifer. I I | 00:50:55 | |
think now the siding, I'm not sure it could be back that far, but the windows I definitely think have been added on. | 00:51:03 | |
Yes, I've It doesn't seem to be any particular architectural features on it that would. | 00:51:16 | |
Give it and the original age. It looks it has been altered to me. | 00:51:22 | |
Mr. Steers. | 00:51:29 | |
It's a very handsome building and would fit very well on the historic inventory if we could leave it on there, but it's not on. | 00:51:31 | |
No, I know that's what we're considering. But the date, the construction date 1939 is way past the. | 00:51:42 | |
The cut off date in the historic context statement for. | 00:51:53 | |
Homes of historic importance. | 00:52:01 | |
And I don't see how we can leave it on. | 00:52:06 | |
I think it needs to come off by ordinance, but not because there's anything wrong with it. | 00:52:10 | |
So yes, I think maybe we should consider it for the neighborhood. | 00:52:17 | |
List, that would be fine. | 00:52:22 | |
Put that in the words that we haven't gotten to that neighborhood. | 00:52:30 | |
I actually looked in the Heritage Society files and there were there wasn't even a file on it. So that means we have no | 00:52:36 | |
information, which probably means there's no more information than what we've been presented with here. | 00:52:41 | |
Because we do try to help provide. | 00:52:47 | |
So I I I mean, there are a lot of houses that look like this. I realized that. | 00:52:52 | |
You know, I listening to Inga that you know, we're losing some cottages, but we also have to move into the 21st century and | 00:52:57 | |
sometimes our houses are too small for our families nowadays and I don't see it as you know, as an outstanding example thinking | 00:53:05 | |
that we're trying to condense our HRI list. | 00:53:12 | |
And keep the the more outstanding houses and so I you know, since there isn't anybody. | 00:53:20 | |
What is it? | 00:53:30 | |
No, persons important that were associated events architecturally not important particularly all of those things. I don't think | 00:53:32 | |
rise raises it to the level that we would put it on the inventory. So I am. | 00:53:39 | |
For. | 00:53:46 | |
Saying that it's not eligible. | 00:53:50 | |
Which is what we're asked to do. | 00:53:53 | |
Yes, the Heritage Society doesn't collect information. | 00:53:57 | |
Newer than 1926, just because that has always been the city's. | 00:54:02 | |
Cut off date for historic we we actually have a lot of information beyond it. It's it may not be used, you know sometimes it | 00:54:07 | |
happens by accident or for a particular reason, but oftentimes it just isn't there. | 00:54:14 | |
Right. | 00:54:23 | |
So do we have a motion to? | 00:54:24 | |
To recommend that the property known as 448 Gibson not be eligible for the HRI. | 00:54:29 | |
So moved. | 00:54:36 | |
2nd. | 00:54:38 | |
Steers moved and greening seconded. And maybe we have a vote, please. All in favor, aye? | 00:54:40 | |
All right, the vote is 50. | 00:54:49 | |
And we've determined that it's not eligible for the HRI. | 00:54:52 | |
And we're being thanked over there. All right, that concludes our. | 00:54:58 | |
Our. | 00:55:05 | |
Agenda for today. | 00:55:06 | |
So thank you everybody, for coming. Unless somebody has something to say, I don't see anything. So our meeting is now adjourned. | 00:55:09 | |
55. | 00:55:20 | |
Thank you. | 00:55:24 |