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All right. It is 4:00. So I'm going to go ahead and call this meeting of the Pacific Grove Economic Development. | 00:00:00 | |
Commission to Order. | 00:00:06 | |
And as we always do, just a quick reminder to everyone if you make a motion for seconded, please state your name so there's be we | 00:00:10 | |
can keep track of that for notes. | 00:00:15 | |
Let's go ahead and start with roll call. | 00:00:20 | |
And actually before before we begin. Also I did receive a. | 00:00:26 | |
Message from Commissioner Marquis that he will be pressed. | 00:00:30 | |
Oh, OK. | 00:00:33 | |
He didn't want to join like last night. No. Yes. Here's another. | 00:00:35 | |
OK, I'll do the rule upon them, Commissioner Gibbs. | 00:00:44 | |
Present Commissioner Venuti. | 00:00:49 | |
Present Vice Chair Jacobs. | 00:00:52 | |
Chair upman present. | 00:00:55 | |
Jenny McMahon. | 00:00:58 | |
Commissioner. | 00:01:01 | |
And Commissioner Hoops. | 00:01:03 | |
Here so we have everyone present except for. | 00:01:05 | |
You know and do approval of the agenda. The agenda and supporting documents in the packet were circulated in advance. Today's | 00:01:11 | |
meeting are available for download on the EDC page, pacificgrove.org. Are there any members of the public that would like to make | 00:01:16 | |
a comment on today's agenda? | 00:01:21 | |
Seeing none so. | 00:01:31 | |
Go ahead and move forward with any. | 00:01:34 | |
Comments or questions from? | 00:01:37 | |
Commissioner members. | 00:01:40 | |
Yes. | 00:01:42 | |
All right. You're you're still wondering? | 00:01:47 | |
I have requested that we do some kind of a staff update, yes. | 00:01:51 | |
Will you address that? I will. So regarding the staff update, what we'll do in terms of. | 00:01:56 | |
The structure of these meetings make a small change to the approach. The staff updates won't be in as an agenda item, they'll be | 00:02:03 | |
part of staff. | 00:02:07 | |
So moving forward, that is the plan. We've discussed that. | 00:02:13 | |
And so this app will provide that. | 00:02:16 | |
During the beginning portion, OK, Specifically I wanted to report public report. | 00:02:19 | |
Some of the vacancies down in town, wherever, so that we are aware because I find people ask me, I'm on the EDC and I have no | 00:02:27 | |
clue. So I want to be informed. | 00:02:32 | |
Secondly, as well, there was a request for Commissioner Gibbs regarding this. | 00:02:38 | |
Business update as well. So all of that collectively. | 00:02:43 | |
We've determined it's it's best to come from city staff because they have all the most part. | 00:02:47 | |
So. | 00:02:52 | |
Yes, and I had also requested that we consider. | 00:02:55 | |
Encouraging businesses to use the comment period, the three minute comment period. | 00:02:58 | |
To give us some insight as to how they're doing. | 00:03:03 | |
That they have an audience. We want to hear it. | 00:03:06 | |
How can we help? What are your challenges? | 00:03:09 | |
And I was hoping we could invite them through an e-mail maybe that Jenny could help us with. | 00:03:12 | |
OK. Yeah, that's certainly something. Yeah. Thank you. | 00:03:18 | |
OK. So any, any further? | 00:03:22 | |
Just reviewing the agenda right now, is there any further comments or questions on the agenda before we approve that? Yeah, Yeah, | 00:03:25 | |
Yeah. So about the agenda, the. | 00:03:29 | |
Maybe it's a broader comment, but the both the mayor and the Planning Commission. | 00:03:35 | |
Create a work plan. It ends upon the agenda, and work plan is future items that will be on the agenda itself. | 00:03:40 | |
And I think, to his credit, the chair asked for. | 00:03:46 | |
Since we don't have that discussion necessarily, then. | 00:03:50 | |
We have a chance to submit with those agenda items would be. | 00:03:53 | |
And I don't see it here. So I would suggest and we can talk about this at the end, be great to have the work plan made-up of | 00:03:58 | |
everybody's suggestions. | 00:04:01 | |
As an agenda item that we can discuss. | 00:04:05 | |
At the next session, it's ready to. | 00:04:08 | |
Yeah. Do you think that's possible? I think that we can definitely have that. | 00:04:10 | |
A reminder to everyone as well, that and. | 00:04:16 | |
Which is an update those that weren't present in the last meeting. The intention moving forward is that we have. | 00:04:23 | |
Submissions for agenda items Proposed agenda items. | 00:04:29 | |
Following this meeting prior to following Tuesday, so that way we're able to. | 00:04:32 | |
Vice Chair and I. | 00:04:39 | |
Meet with city staff. Go through everything. | 00:04:41 | |
So did you? I submitted my list. Did you get my list before on the Tuesday, before the Tuesday after the last meeting? Trying to | 00:04:45 | |
remember if we got it before the Tuesday or not. I think you did. I said follow up e-mail. But we did receive, yes. | 00:04:51 | |
OK. Did you get a list from anybody else of agenda items? We yes, we got it. OK, request for specifically, we were just | 00:04:57 | |
discussing. | 00:05:01 | |
And your request for a slower business update, which is again. | 00:05:05 | |
And Commissioner Viniz vanities idea of and we've mentioned before getting some businesses in here using a 3 minute comment | 00:05:09 | |
period. | 00:05:13 | |
To hear from businesses that are new or? | 00:05:16 | |
Have something they would tell their story. Let's do it. Let's get them in here. Thank you. | 00:05:19 | |
OK. Let's go ahead and move forward with approval of the agenda. | 00:05:24 | |
We have a motion to approve the agenda. | 00:05:28 | |
We have a second. | 00:05:32 | |
All right. | 00:05:35 | |
OK, so Commissioner Venuti? | 00:05:38 | |
Commissioner Gibbs. Yes, Vice Chair Jacobs. | 00:05:41 | |
Chair upman. | 00:05:45 | |
Commissioner Richmond and Commissioner Hoops OK the agenda has been approved. Motion pass. | 00:05:48 | |
6 to 0. | 00:05:55 | |
When absent. | 00:05:56 | |
So that moves us on then to Commission and staff announcements. And as I've mentioned, we're altering our format slightly here to | 00:05:59 | |
allow cities to have to provide that brief business update at the beginning of each BC meeting. So that's that's the next. | 00:06:05 | |
And Laurel, if you'd like to provide us with that overview. | 00:06:12 | |
Yeah, I'll give my. | 00:06:16 | |
Commercial business update and then we have city manager here to get the budget update. Wonderful. Thank you as requested. | 00:06:18 | |
OK, so. | 00:06:25 | |
Exciting news, 215 Forest Ave. The Pop and His Retail and Pub is set to open in April 20th, 2024. | 00:06:27 | |
So some of our vacant buildings are starting to. | 00:06:35 | |
Not be Vacant and 511 Lighthouse, the Hops and Fog Nano Group hub is set to open in late May with a pop-up plan for good old days. | 00:06:39 | |
601 Lighthouse The old B of A building was under construction for tenant improvements, and the owner is willing to attend an EDC | 00:06:49 | |
meeting to give an update on his vision for the place. | 00:06:54 | |
Which is pretty cool. | 00:06:59 | |
And 490 Lighthouse, the old Pier One building is still for lease for the main part, and I have interested people who've been in | 00:07:01 | |
the office, but. | 00:07:05 | |
We haven't secured A tenant yet. | 00:07:10 | |
The Grill at Lovers Point is available in the city's developing RFP, and it will be published on the city website soon. | 00:07:12 | |
And I don't know if everybody knows about Gallery Nila, formerly Junior Flower Truck, opened earlier this year at 665 Lighthouse. | 00:07:20 | |
And there's also art. They actually do painting in there. | 00:07:25 | |
Lighthouse Cinemas has been approved. | 00:07:32 | |
Sell beer and wine and host events. | 00:07:35 | |
318 Grand Ave. Winning Wheels has closed its doors. | 00:07:38 | |
So that's kind of sad. | 00:07:43 | |
And then 708 Lighthouse, the old ice cream shop, has reopened with a new owner that not much has changed. | 00:07:45 | |
And the old Chase building has sold and we have not heard from the owners. Jenny Murdoch has reached out to them. | 00:07:52 | |
And Jenny was going to follow up with a few more updates. | 00:08:01 | |
Sure. | 00:08:04 | |
The what was the your second to last one? I had a comment on it. The old ice cream shop. Oh no, it was actually winning wheels. | 00:08:07 | |
Sorry. The there is actually a new tenant that has a lease award-winning meals. We just don't know who they are yet. It will be a | 00:08:11 | |
bike shop. | 00:08:16 | |
Uh, probably not, because he pretty much did get rid of most of his equipment or put it in storage, unfortunately. | 00:08:21 | |
Did you talk about the old Crema property? | 00:08:29 | |
No, OK. So the whole criminal property was sold? | 00:08:32 | |
Yeah, yeah, across from 481 Lighthouse. Sorry, I should give you the address. | 00:08:37 | |
And the new owner is interested in starting something similar to what was there before, which is nice because that, you know, that | 00:08:42 | |
end will start to get filled back. Yeah. Which is great. They have called a few times and we've talked. Yeah. And then did you | 00:08:47 | |
talk about whimsy? | 00:08:52 | |
I can talk about whimsy. Yeah. There's a new boutique that's going into the old Rockstar Dance space. Rockstar Dance just moved | 00:08:58 | |
next door in the in the new space. It's a boutique called Whimsy that has it's described with vintage charm. Not exactly sure it's | 00:09:05 | |
not a thrift shop. Yeah, yeah, I know it's a it's retail, not resale. | 00:09:12 | |
And then the other one is the Beachcomber Inn is doing, they're doing construction. The daughter took over the business. Yeah. And | 00:09:19 | |
they're doing, they're not really doing a lot. They're just doing some some surface things, the things that they can do right now. | 00:09:25 | |
But they are looking to reopen hopefully by the end of 2025. S that means two hotels I know. Yeah. She was in the office too. | 00:09:31 | |
Yeah. | 00:09:37 | |
So those are those are the rest of them. I think we hit all of them unless you have questions about any. | 00:09:44 | |
That has been annexed by the city. Would you like to answer that one? It's just because it's city, all I can say about the that I | 00:09:52 | |
know it's been annexed by the city and. | 00:09:58 | |
The the owner of the property hasn't indicated what they want to do with it. There is possibly some issues associated with it from | 00:10:05 | |
its former use that would need to be dealt with. | 00:10:13 | |
Excellent. No, it's it's it's not one of those. | 00:10:23 | |
Yes. | 00:10:31 | |
That's not a it's not a commercial zone. | 00:10:33 | |
When we were doing the skate park stuff with this city, we looked at that building and at that time, which was over a year ago at | 00:10:37 | |
this point, they were saying they might be putting. | 00:10:41 | |
Like apartments or something in there. | 00:10:47 | |
But it sounds like I don't feel like that's what is being talked about now, so I don't know. That's interesting. | 00:10:49 | |
It's on if I. | 00:10:55 | |
Chair. It's on the site list I believe, and it was taken off the site list. | 00:10:57 | |
For the HCD, the state housing numbers that we have to meet. | 00:11:01 | |
But Bob, if I could just ask, I heard you say that it was annexed. | 00:11:07 | |
By the city? When? When was the transfer? | 00:11:11 | |
OK. | 00:11:15 | |
And that. | 00:11:17 | |
What you're saying well well, I'm not sure about the ownership change either I I just know the following that it was an annexed by | 00:11:20 | |
the city and there has been. | 00:11:27 | |
No interest that I'm aware of to move forward with anything, largely because they have some issues from its former use that would | 00:11:37 | |
need to be dealt with. | 00:11:43 | |
Before any development took place, has there been an assessment on the cleanup? Not as and not as far as I know. | 00:11:51 | |
And if I could just follow up one other building, it's on the Pick PG website and I was on the person that was sold at least once, | 00:11:59 | |
the Hambrooks Auction building. Where does that stand? | 00:12:04 | |
Is it for sale again? | 00:12:09 | |
It's on the Pick PG website. It is. It's currently for sale again, yes, because the owners sold it. And then. | 00:12:12 | |
OK, yes. | 00:12:18 | |
What's the price? It's 2.9 million. | 00:12:21 | |
I'd have to look on the Pick PG website. I know I put it on there, I'm not sure. | 00:12:24 | |
Now we'll have the city manager give his budget update. | 00:12:34 | |
Thank you, Mr. Chair, Members of the of the Commission. | 00:12:39 | |
The budget remains pretty much as it was the last time I reported to you the entire. | 00:12:44 | |
EDC budget amounts to 369,815 dollars. | 00:12:54 | |
A large part of that is obviously with the. | 00:12:59 | |
Monterey. | 00:13:06 | |
Bay the hotel. | 00:13:08 | |
Association and that's. | 00:13:12 | |
Right. It's 164,125. | 00:13:14 | |
The the the EDC itself has a contribution earmarked in the budget for 39,900. Out of that, you've spent $20,000 in terms of the. | 00:13:20 | |
Two grants that you've given out to the two businesses. You've also allocated an additional if your last meeting. An additional | 00:13:35 | |
$10,000 goes to the QR program. | 00:13:42 | |
That is still in the development stage. | 00:13:49 | |
And so that leaves in that line item about $9900. | 00:13:54 | |
The other that is. | 00:14:00 | |
Related is is the Facade grant program which is at. | 00:14:03 | |
$25,000. | 00:14:10 | |
There has been one. | 00:14:14 | |
Grant Ream or Grant reimbursement at $5000. | 00:14:15 | |
That's been approved and there's two pending. | 00:14:22 | |
So that's basically the status report at this time. The other thing I wanted to also mention, I'm certainly available for | 00:14:27 | |
questions regarding that, but the other thing I I wanted to mention was that some of you may have seen a week ago the City Council | 00:14:34 | |
did its. | 00:14:41 | |
Budget workshop. There was a review of the four major priorities and milestones contained on that. | 00:14:49 | |
List and I was going to offer that I would be willing to. | 00:15:00 | |
If the. | 00:15:07 | |
EDC would like to make a presentation regarding the. | 00:15:08 | |
Abbreviated form of that presentation. I don't want to take two hours, and I'm sure you don't either, but in a presentation to | 00:15:13 | |
update you as to what the council's goals remain, and. | 00:15:19 | |
What they are looking to achieve? | 00:15:26 | |
And finally, in your last meeting, you did also recommend that the budget, the contribution line item be increased from 39,900 to | 00:15:31 | |
50,000. | 00:15:38 | |
And I will carry that recommendation as part of the city manager's. | 00:15:46 | |
Budget through to the City Council. | 00:15:52 | |
When it's presented in April. Thank you. | 00:15:55 | |
Is there anything further that's required of us? | 00:15:58 | |
You know, I would say that it's always important to be communicating when you can with the Council, so during those budget | 00:16:01 | |
deliberations of a member of. | 00:16:08 | |
Your Commission may want to be present. | 00:16:16 | |
And. | 00:16:18 | |
To answer any questions that the Council may have and your reasons for. | 00:16:20 | |
Requesting the the increase. | 00:16:26 | |
But yeah, if I could just request. | 00:16:29 | |
Well, would you be able to enough? Just let us know when those are coming so that we're not, yeah, caught off guard? | 00:16:32 | |
Thank you. | 00:16:38 | |
Yeah, I just was wondering, we unanimously. | 00:16:42 | |
Wanted to propose a grant writing or a full time EDC member staff. Is is Can I just find out where that has gone? | 00:16:47 | |
It was the suggestion was made by your council member liaison Chaps Paduri and. | 00:16:58 | |
All of the Council's suggestions will be a reviewed as a part of the budget process. | 00:17:07 | |
So at this point. | 00:17:13 | |
We'll seriously review that suggestion and ultimately make a recommendation. | 00:17:17 | |
As a part of the overall budget presentation to the Council. | 00:17:25 | |
Thank you. If I may, I just would ask as well. I know that there has been conversation. | 00:17:30 | |
Around budget and regard. | 00:17:37 | |
The current contract with Agent DL. | 00:17:39 | |
And so if you provide any further information, not that I think that. | 00:17:42 | |
The services that are provided. | 00:17:47 | |
To the city for support. | 00:17:50 | |
Are also aligned with what a potential. | 00:17:55 | |
Extended role of economic development. | 00:18:01 | |
Position within the city staff. | 00:18:06 | |
Might be able to. | 00:18:08 | |
So I think it would be important to if we are. | 00:18:11 | |
Discussing the contract that we. | 00:18:15 | |
Look to see if that is an additional reason for justifying. | 00:18:19 | |
That city staff role. | 00:18:23 | |
We will. | 00:18:26 | |
No, not to support the contract, but in lieu of. | 00:18:29 | |
So you're saying that that if we're not going to extend HDL, it puts more pressure on the grant writing position. It makes the, | 00:18:33 | |
you know, the current? | 00:18:37 | |
Part time position. | 00:18:42 | |
Even higher, it's a higher tax on right position because. | 00:18:44 | |
Yeah, I'd, I'd agree with that. I just wanted to make sure that was. | 00:18:48 | |
Mr. Chair, if I could just. | 00:18:54 | |
I also want to announce that the handbook. | 00:18:57 | |
For committees and commissions. | 00:19:04 | |
Is going to be finally reviewed by the Council at their next meeting. | 00:19:06 | |
And it will be approved. | 00:19:11 | |
I expect that there will be a training session might be good for all Commission members that are interested to participate in | 00:19:14 | |
that. | 00:19:19 | |
Probably will take place in April, as soon as the final handbook. | 00:19:25 | |
Is approved uh. | 00:19:30 | |
Both myself and the city attorney will be moving forward. | 00:19:32 | |
On developing that training. | 00:19:37 | |
Thank you very much. | 00:19:40 | |
The question has come up in the past from Commissioner Gibbs, and so I do want to carry this question forward. | 00:19:43 | |
Expect to more information there has been. | 00:19:48 | |
A conversation about a. | 00:19:51 | |
A Commission meeting? I don't recall what the name it was. | 00:19:54 | |
Right this. | 00:19:59 | |
Are you up to date? OK? | 00:20:02 | |
Share the workflow. | 00:20:03 | |
Good. | 00:20:10 | |
OK, All right, wonderful. Anything further from city staff for updates? | 00:20:11 | |
Thank you. | 00:20:17 | |
Questions. Sure. Any questions? Sure. Can I just remind the chair, we do have a guest speaker here, so. | 00:20:20 | |
That first. | 00:20:30 | |
Well, let's go ahead. Yeah, let's let's Commission and stop announcements. | 00:20:33 | |
On the staff, that's what about the budget? | 00:20:38 | |
So just I I happen to be at the budget meeting. | 00:20:42 | |
Most imagine knows that I was there and I also thought of and asked questions about the economic development. | 00:20:46 | |
Budget, not admission, but the budget is full. As most of you probably know, the city projected city budget for the next year is | 00:20:54 | |
$32 million. | 00:20:58 | |
We have a reserve on top of that. On top of the reserve we have about a $2.6 million. | 00:21:02 | |
It's looked in other words and then it's about accounted for, but it's sitting. | 00:21:08 | |
When they reviewed the budget by some of the city, budgets are going up the attorneys budget. | 00:21:12 | |
Is going from, I don't know, four and a half million to over $1,000,000 anticipating I'm guessing. | 00:21:17 | |
Some actions that the City Council discussed last night. | 00:21:23 | |
I also observed that in that flow there perhaps could be some more money for the economic development of the city. | 00:21:28 | |
Right now we are at about one one point 1%. | 00:21:35 | |
That is the total technology development budget that Bob mentioned for the city, so about 1.11.2, something like that. | 00:21:40 | |
And I did a little bit of research before I went to the City Council meeting and a lot of cities are sizing a little bit larger. | 00:21:49 | |
They they're around 2 to 3% they allocate. | 00:21:53 | |
2 to 3% of their budget for economic development, including sea monitoring, those kind of things, staff and all that kind of | 00:21:58 | |
stuff. | 00:22:01 | |
And so I I said to the to the Council that the Council should budget. | 00:22:05 | |
An additional at least, you know, half a percent, we're talking $190,000. | 00:22:09 | |
For economic. | 00:22:13 | |
A chunk of that devoted to some of the line items. | 00:22:16 | |
That are on the recovery plan. | 00:22:19 | |
Right. The music, the QR code and that sort of. | 00:22:22 | |
And the only comment they really can't comment. But Mr. Clady Councilman Lady did say perhaps that some of the HDL. | 00:22:25 | |
Would go to that. I don't know how much is left because HDL also supplies services and business closes. | 00:22:32 | |
For the big stop. | 00:22:38 | |
So, so that request was made. The decisions have not been made by the City Council. So my last comment is if anybody out there or | 00:22:41 | |
anybody on the Commission and certainly as a private citizen, write a letter to council. | 00:22:47 | |
Suggestion. | 00:22:53 | |
The amount. | 00:22:55 | |
Because we have a $2.6 million overlayship. | 00:22:57 | |
And economic development needs to be a prior. | 00:23:01 | |
So additional 100,190 thousand dollars is about a half a percent. | 00:23:04 | |
Thank you, Chair. Thank you for that. | 00:23:10 | |
All right, Councillor Liaison's. | 00:23:14 | |
Councilman Drury let us know that he was going to be able to attend today, so we'll move past. | 00:23:18 | |
His announcements. | 00:23:23 | |
That opens us to general public comment. | 00:23:25 | |
I think someone from the Commission had one announcement. | 00:23:27 | |
Go ahead, sorry. | 00:23:31 | |
Just real quick. Captain Stoker is doing their birthday bash. Thanks. We're not doing. We're not doing it. Sorry, did I skip over? | 00:23:34 | |
I did by my mistake. | 00:23:39 | |
OK. Please continue. | 00:23:45 | |
The vendor application for any small businesses or local Craftsman or even musicians or food vendors. Drink vendors That's open | 00:23:49 | |
for Captain Stoker's Birthday Festival in July, which you can find it on our Instagram and on our website I. | 00:23:56 | |
And. | 00:24:04 | |
It's in the baseball field outside of the Monterey store, Yeah. | 00:24:06 | |
So that'll be open till next month at the end of the month. And then the other thing, since it's going to be becoming more | 00:24:10 | |
obvious, I just want to let everyone know that I am pregnant. | 00:24:15 | |
And I'm due in August, so I just thought I'd let everyone know here. So you're gonna be full term during your term? Yes. Yes. Yep, | 00:24:21 | |
Yep, Yep, there it is. So just wanna let you all know. | 00:24:27 | |
Thanks. Thanks. OK, we can move on now any further Commission. | 00:24:34 | |
Announcements. People move home. | 00:24:42 | |
Yeah. | 00:24:44 | |
The bid is. | 00:24:47 | |
We don't have a lot of events. We do the Halloween and you know a few little things, but we had to chalk the Block Sidewalk Chalk | 00:24:51 | |
Art Festival last year, which was really successful and we're planning another one this year. It's on May the 18th. | 00:24:58 | |
And we. | 00:25:05 | |
Are trying to organize it a little bit more to to include sponsors. We know that a lot of professional artists want to be involved | 00:25:08 | |
this year. We want to do more outreach to nonprofits and to to young people and get young people involved in all levels. So watch | 00:25:16 | |
the space, you'll be hearing more about that and the arts district, a group of artists. | 00:25:23 | |
Organizing an art week for the week following. So it'll start on the May the 18th and carry on for a week and the. | 00:25:31 | |
Brick and mortar businesses involved in the Arts District will be having a resident artist, so it'll just it's just an excuse to | 00:25:39 | |
get some footfall downtown, get people walking around and. | 00:25:44 | |
You know, schmoozing with. | 00:25:50 | |
People who like art and get inspired and support local businesses. So it's like kind of like on the next level up, you know it was | 00:25:52 | |
it was just the first one last year and you know hopefully. | 00:25:58 | |
It'll. | 00:26:06 | |
Continue to grow like that. And then I just want to take one second and say the EDC supported to keep the parklets. And I just | 00:26:07 | |
wanted to follow up on that because two weeks ago there was a meeting where that agenda item came up and there was a vote and the | 00:26:12 | |
council voted. | 00:26:18 | |
To demolish the park list as they are, they've voted in favor of the subcommittee proposal and. | 00:26:25 | |
There's however some provisos with that, which is that. | 00:26:33 | |
Instead of the targeting just the one corner on Fountain and Lighthouse that there's a plan that's going to be global to cover all | 00:26:38 | |
the parklets and. | 00:26:43 | |
They will need to include design guidelines. | 00:26:49 | |
Or reconstructing the park that's so. | 00:26:52 | |
You know. | 00:26:57 | |
I think everyone is is happy to consider alternatives and everything and the silver lining in this I think is that there will be a | 00:26:58 | |
new design and the amenities will be guaranteed from the discussion, I think the mayor said. Before anything happens, we need to | 00:27:05 | |
have guidelines for rebuilding, so. | 00:27:11 | |
I just wanted you to know that work in progress still and early days. I think because there's a lot of work also the budget needs | 00:27:19 | |
to be done. Also all the stakeholders need to participate, not just. | 00:27:25 | |
The few, but you know all ten part of it's in town. So anyway. | 00:27:32 | |
That's all I wanted to say on that. | 00:27:38 | |
OK. Thank you. Anything further from commissioners before moving on? | 00:27:41 | |
Targets. | 00:27:44 | |
Yeah, I think the park looks a good thing if just. | 00:27:46 | |
Mr. Jacobs, did they not say they're going to try to avoid the? | 00:27:49 | |
Main summer season for any kind of construction or extension of the sidewalk. Yeah, yeah. Well, I didn't mention that. I mean, | 00:27:53 | |
they're in the original report. It said starting in June and that was actually when they presented. They said they were no longer | 00:28:00 | |
looking at that time frame. There was talk about November the 1st, but then with all the provisos for a. | 00:28:08 | |
Planning next phases and and being a global plan, we'll see what happens with that. I understand that it is not exempt from Sequa, | 00:28:16 | |
so there may be a Sequa analysis too, so. | 00:28:23 | |
I'm not really sure the plan the the date is not yet known, Mr. Fair, if I could. | 00:28:30 | |
The Council gave us very clear direction to move forward as quickly as possible with that. | 00:28:38 | |
We will be retaining the professional health that's. | 00:28:45 | |
Needed to actually do the design manual and and do the planning first planning estimates for the piece down on Fountain and | 00:28:51 | |
Lighthouse and and so we're hoping to have all of that completed. | 00:29:01 | |
By the end of this fiscal year and have the actual construction take place in the fall. I I should note that you have Council | 00:29:11 | |
Member Coletti that has raised his hand and also wants to comment I think. | 00:29:20 | |
Sure. Well, we'll be getting to general public comment in just a moment. Welcome to make a comment at that time. | 00:29:29 | |
OK. So just to finish, I just had a couple things that just quickly on the parklets. | 00:29:37 | |
The safety issue, I think the Commissioner, Jacobs, would agree. | 00:29:42 | |
There's been a reason that has to be solved by this. | 00:29:47 | |
This this improvement is not really discussion time, sorry. | 00:29:51 | |
The day Lighting Law takes care of that other announcements. | 00:30:00 | |
I was just adding information. | 00:30:06 | |
About friends. So in walking around town I was looking for a news. | 00:30:08 | |
Sure. I usually shop at Target, but I found that there's a new business on Grand. | 00:30:13 | |
Fairly new called St. Addiction. | 00:30:18 | |
That's down on 178 grand went in there. They have really cool products too cool for me. | 00:30:21 | |
So I'm going to go back to Target, but it was really it's set up nice. It's really a cool job. | 00:30:27 | |
And you know, they didn't have a lot of Wizards sold. | 00:30:32 | |
Maybe we could correct that a little bit. I'm going to go back and buy something. | 00:30:36 | |
For myself. | 00:30:39 | |
2nd and I did send this information on to. | 00:30:42 | |
The chair The City of Monterey has agreed, through Alan Hoffa, to open a Monterey County business center. Who's going to Soledad | 00:30:47 | |
also? | 00:30:52 | |
And I would, I would love, I could talk about it later. Be cool if there was something like that for an extension of it in Pacific | 00:30:58 | |
Grove. | 00:31:01 | |
Just a Resource Center. | 00:31:04 | |
And we need to have that here. | 00:31:06 | |
And Jenny, are you going to mention there's a reception tonight? | 00:31:09 | |
Overtruders. | 00:31:13 | |
Yeah, I had emailed the the entire council about that. Yeah, I got that, but some people might not have. Sure Charter galleries is | 00:31:14 | |
having a chamber mixer from 5:00 to 7:00. In fact, I need to send my intern over there shortly. So I'm hoping to get to general | 00:31:21 | |
public comment. But anyone is welcome to to to attend. There's going to be food and drink. | 00:31:27 | |
And the last thing is, I think you mentioned the grill. | 00:31:36 | |
Is empty. The past owner did not renew the lease. They pulled out the equipment and I think it's a neat opportunity for a catalyst | 00:31:40 | |
project. | 00:31:44 | |
For the city, you know, like back to the 50s, we get the funds to come serve burgers but a big islands, colorful stuff and connect | 00:31:49 | |
it with, you know, our music in the park kind of a situation, yeah. The applications are gonna be open. Like, as I mentioned, an | 00:31:56 | |
RFP will go out and a new business will go in. Yeah, yeah. And. And you'll be taking applications shortly. | 00:32:03 | |
Yes. OK. Thank you. | 00:32:11 | |
Thank you. OK, moving on to general public comment. | 00:32:13 | |
We have any members of the public. | 00:32:18 | |
Councilman Colletti. | 00:32:21 | |
Pardon me, let's, uh, let's give the. | 00:32:22 | |
The Members present first please. | 00:32:25 | |
Did already unmute OK. | 00:32:32 | |
Ready. My name is Aaron Villarreal. I'm currently the membership and development intern with the Pacific Grove Chamber of | 00:32:35 | |
Commerce. A little bit about me. I come from the Central Valley, actually the same kind of town. Jenny's from Lemoore. I grew up | 00:32:41 | |
in Hanford, went to West Hills a little bit about my academic background and kind of career background. I'm delving into a bit of | 00:32:47 | |
higher education there. At West Hills College, I was able. I don't know if I'm supposed to press start to in the three minutes. | 00:32:53 | |
OK. | 00:32:59 | |
Perfect. But there at West Hills College, I worked my way up to become our Associated Student Government President. I also was on | 00:33:05 | |
the Board of Trustees as a student representative, served as a student at trustees for a multi college district. | 00:33:12 | |
After my Community College kind of career applied to four different colleges, it was UC Santa Barbara, UC Berkeley for their high | 00:33:21 | |
School of Business, UCLA and CSU of Monterey Bay. | 00:33:26 | |
I got into all the programs straight after my Community College career. | 00:33:32 | |
But from there, I chose specifically Monterey because you know. | 00:33:38 | |
This community and this kind of environment was something I didn't see anywhere else. And so that was a really big thing for me. | 00:33:42 | |
And now being in this position there as a CSU and B student, I'm in the business program. I'm currently pursuing finance. Apart | 00:33:49 | |
from that, I want to kind of continue my higher education pathway. | 00:33:55 | |
But have really benefited just from being here, you know in this little town in little city. And so I really think it has a lot of | 00:34:02 | |
different and economical growth. I know a lot of young people are anxious and willing to want to get out there and see what's new | 00:34:08 | |
out there some. | 00:34:13 | |
And I know CSUMB is a fairly new school. It started in 1994, you know, for or it is, you know, pretty new. We bought the campus | 00:34:19 | |
for around a dollar. But you know, it's still in its growing stages. Right now currently I'm actually running for their student | 00:34:25 | |
president and Percy is UMB. And so I'll I'll know at the end of March for that. But specifically, yeah, hoping that goes well | 00:34:31 | |
specifically. | 00:34:37 | |
I just wanted to come introduce myself. You know, I'm a young person. I really enjoy the, the small shops down here downtown is | 00:34:43 | |
beautiful. You know, just having those open doors and having that quality over quantity is something that Pacific Grove has. And | 00:34:50 | |
so I really believe in that. Lastly, Jenny is an awesome leader. She's an awesome role model. We're really blessed to have her in | 00:34:56 | |
the Pacific Grove chamber, so. | 00:35:02 | |
No, she's amazing. All of our staff there are real leaders and they're they're really pushing for, you know, a better community | 00:35:10 | |
and a better kind of development towards our town. So I'm really proud to be here. Apart from that, I'll be working till the end | 00:35:16 | |
of May and we'll see how that goes. But from there, I'm here for another two years. I graduate hopefully in the spring of 2025. | 00:35:23 | |
It's looking pretty good so far, so. | 00:35:29 | |
Apart from that, I'm. | 00:35:36 | |
Still representing an Otter, so go otters. Thank you. | 00:35:38 | |
Thank you and welcome and as an alumni myself. | 00:35:44 | |
I I'm glad to hear that you chose CMB. | 00:35:49 | |
And your book better. | 00:35:53 | |
Are you a runner? | 00:35:54 | |
All right. That's excellent. | 00:35:57 | |
There you go. | 00:36:01 | |
All right. | 00:36:07 | |
Seen going further in person, let's go ahead and open the Florida Councilman, Camille Colletti. | 00:36:08 | |
For public comment. | 00:36:14 | |
Yeah. Thank you. Chair. I just want to emphasize or kind of amplify a little bit on what the city manager mentioned as far as | 00:36:17 | |
describing. | 00:36:21 | |
Perhaps a more accurate description of what occurred at our February 14th meeting regarding parklets. | 00:36:27 | |
The the the concept drawing is on the wall there in chambers on the West wall. | 00:36:33 | |
And I will send you all a link to the video that will clearly show what the council discussion. | 00:36:38 | |
And final action was have a good meeting. Thank you. | 00:36:46 | |
Thank you. | 00:36:50 | |
Any further public comment before we move on to the regular agenda? | 00:36:54 | |
I've seen Miss Dahmer's hand. He's raised. OK, Stommer. | 00:36:58 | |
You have the floor very. | 00:37:03 | |
I'm really sorry, but chair when you turn your head away. | 00:37:05 | |
And your voice goes down. I can't hear the ends of your comments. And unfortunately with you too, Commissioner Gibbs, you back | 00:37:11 | |
away or something and your voice goes down and I can't hear you. So just remember, unidirectional Mike, speak into them, please. | 00:37:17 | |
Thank you. | 00:37:24 | |
You put a. | 00:37:33 | |
OK, last up, we have approval of the moments. | 00:37:36 | |
Those minutes were distributed in advance and have been. | 00:37:40 | |
And that would be agenda packets. Can we do a quick roll call vote on approval of the minutes before moving on to the regular | 00:37:45 | |
agenda? | 00:37:48 | |
Yes, so sorry, Motion motion to approve. | 00:37:51 | |
Yes. | 00:37:54 | |
Hey, Commissioner Hoops. | 00:37:57 | |
Commissioner Richmond. | 00:38:00 | |
Hi. | 00:38:02 | |
Chairman. | 00:38:04 | |
Vice Chair Jacobs. | 00:38:07 | |
Commissioner Venuti? Aye, Commissioner Gibbs. Yes. Motion passes six to zero with one absent. Thank you. | 00:38:09 | |
Yeah, that takes us to our regular agenda. | 00:38:16 | |
All right. Today we'll be receiving an update from the. | 00:38:19 | |
Recipient of the. | 00:38:25 | |
Recent grant program that we awarded in November and welcome. Thank you for coming. You have the floor to provide. | 00:38:27 | |
Thank you. Can you hear me? OK, we can. | 00:38:36 | |
Yes, let me just. | 00:38:43 | |
Again. | 00:38:48 | |
Just sincerest appreciation for this group and it's actually really fun to be here. | 00:38:51 | |
Oh, good. I've never. Actually, I was listening this time. It wasn't the last. | 00:38:56 | |
I was so nervous. | 00:39:02 | |
To be present so. | 00:39:04 | |
It's really neat what you guys do. | 00:39:06 | |
So thanks for being here as well. | 00:39:09 | |
My goal, as a reminder, M8 Wellness is a. | 00:39:12 | |
To enliven our community with health and Wellness and Ioffer multiple modalities. | 00:39:18 | |
To do that and. | 00:39:30 | |
As a follow up to the grant. | 00:39:33 | |
My My biggest goal was to be able to. | 00:39:38 | |
Not just grow our business because that's a good thing for sure, but also to reach a bigger audience. | 00:39:40 | |
And. | 00:39:47 | |
I feel like even just standing here back in N1 of the biggest things that I received besides the lovely check. | 00:39:51 | |
Which is still in my house as big as life. | 00:39:59 | |
With confidence. | 00:40:04 | |
So having the backing of your group. | 00:40:05 | |
Really helped me believe in myself even more than I do. You know, when you start a small business, you just you just never know. | 00:40:10 | |
You're often, uh. | 00:40:18 | |
Revising the plan as you go, so I felt. | 00:40:20 | |
Really lucky, but also just really proud that. | 00:40:25 | |
What we have is something that. | 00:40:29 | |
Is worth sharing. | 00:40:31 | |
So immediately following we we took some of the budget aside, and I. | 00:40:34 | |
We're part of the parade. | 00:40:40 | |
I know that wasn't. It's not like a super big thing. That was fun for us. We actually were part of the PG parade. | 00:40:41 | |
And then? | 00:40:47 | |
We found out the caramel pine cone offers a Wellness week, so we've been since November. | 00:40:49 | |
Part of their Wellness publication. | 00:40:56 | |
And in December had. | 00:41:01 | |
Inspiration to. | 00:41:04 | |
Transform a bit of our studio. My studio space has two floors and we. | 00:41:07 | |
Looked at our group of members and clients and wanted to again see if we could broaden the spectrum. | 00:41:13 | |
So we redesigned our second floor of the studio to offer more of a space that actually we've begun dance classes as well as a. | 00:41:21 | |
More specific, yoga. The main floor of our studio is a lot of Pilates equipment. Pilates is basically the the foundation of what | 00:41:33 | |
we do, but it's not only what I want to do, so. | 00:41:39 | |
Being able to have like two different, uh. | 00:41:45 | |
Modalities even at the same time is. | 00:41:48 | |
Is really helpful. So we with the help of my husband who was here the last time he did all the he's my construction person. | 00:41:53 | |
He helped design A studio upstairs and. | 00:42:00 | |
With that idea, we've also launched some online programs, so. | 00:42:06 | |
We have been doing teacher training already before the meeting last year. | 00:42:14 | |
I'm redesigning it to be more of an online program as well, so that more people can attend at their own level at their own time. | 00:42:20 | |
Just makes it a little bit easier than. | 00:42:25 | |
Showing up in person to a class. | 00:42:31 | |
And then as of. | 00:42:35 | |
Mid February I spent quite a lot of time creating a. | 00:42:36 | |
A Wellness online program that was a 40 day program that we're offering about 3 * a year. | 00:42:41 | |
That we had pretty good. | 00:42:47 | |
Uh, success. We have at least 12 people. | 00:42:48 | |
Join us for that, and that's a lot from a zero to. | 00:42:51 | |
12 and that has offered us the ability to expand our. | 00:42:55 | |
Our program to more nutrition and things like meditation at home and doing home things as well. So coming to the studio, yes, but | 00:43:02 | |
then the home programs as well. | 00:43:08 | |
And. | 00:43:14 | |
With the transformation of the upstairs space. | 00:43:17 | |
We have. | 00:43:22 | |
Inspired a younger audience, so with this dance program we are now working with teenagers and that has been. | 00:43:25 | |
Wonderful, my. | 00:43:36 | |
My daughter is included in that I was a ballet dancer, so it's been fun as well, but also. | 00:43:38 | |
What I'd love for that. | 00:43:47 | |
Upstairs is to really. | 00:43:50 | |
Include boys and girls of. | 00:43:52 | |
Younger ages to come and. | 00:43:56 | |
Move their bodies in a inclusive environment. And so we've been receiving new teens coming to the studio, which previously as a | 00:43:59 | |
Pilates studio that was annoyed the case, but. | 00:44:05 | |
On a larger long term, like really long term goal, I would love to. | 00:44:12 | |
Start using some of the funds. I've saved a lot a lot of the funds aside for this, but really Ioffer like a sliding scale for | 00:44:19 | |
teens so they they're not having to. | 00:44:24 | |
Ask their parents. Or come and pay for classes. A lot of them pay themselves, so they pay what they can and. | 00:44:29 | |
Just inspire them to move. I feel like our. | 00:44:36 | |
Our younger generations are quite sedentary and or injured from doing sports in high school and watching it with my own teenagers, | 00:44:39 | |
so. | 00:44:44 | |
So that's been it's another. | 00:44:49 | |
Long term plan, a little bit of a work in progress, but it's been really lovely to see the the community, a younger community | 00:44:52 | |
coming into the studio and moving and and feeling accepted to do it so. | 00:44:59 | |
And then on the other side of that. | 00:45:08 | |
When we applied for the grant last year, we were just introducing A therapeutic program to the to the work inside the studio and | 00:45:10 | |
we were able to add multiple more props and some equipment attachments for our Pilates equipment. | 00:45:18 | |
So that clients who can't necessarily get up and down off the floor with ease now can come to this therapeutic class and it's it's | 00:45:27 | |
a sold out class, it's always full. So I feel like we're growing in our ages which is lovely to see and then with the 40 day | 00:45:34 | |
program. | 00:45:40 | |
Expanding to more nutrition and. | 00:45:47 | |
Those home home classes as well. | 00:45:51 | |
We're growing and. | 00:45:55 | |
You guys were a big part of that. | 00:45:58 | |
And I also would I felt like when I was sitting there listening. So I don't know how much time I have any questions for me | 00:46:01 | |
specifically because I wasn't sure like what were your goals for this? | 00:46:06 | |
Grant, sure. So I'll open it up to commissioners for any questions, but first we have to open for any questions or comments from | 00:46:12 | |
the public and then we'll. | 00:46:18 | |
Open the floor with a bridge price. | 00:46:24 | |
Seeing none. | 00:46:26 | |
I see no hands raised, OK? | 00:46:28 | |
Commissioners, any questions? | 00:46:31 | |
Comments. | 00:46:33 | |
Feedback. | 00:46:34 | |
And that reminds me, I was trying to remember all of the things I wrote it down, but I'm not even looking at menace. But. | 00:47:07 | |
Doing things thank you so quickly like I'm just impressed how how fast you've moved already. So yeah I know it's it's it has been | 00:47:47 | |
a lot but it's a lot of it was just inspired by that initial like OK we're going to do this and. | 00:47:53 | |
You know it might not be on the financially sound yet in terms of like all those projects that they. | 00:48:01 | |
They're getting good feedback, yeah, and that's good. | 00:48:08 | |
It's a great base. And you've you're already. I don't know, you're already killing it to me. So great job. Thank you. Thank you. | 00:48:11 | |
Any other questions? | 00:48:19 | |
Well, thank you for being here, right? | 00:48:22 | |
I feel good just after. | 00:48:24 | |
Hearing what you have to say and and and how you're. | 00:48:26 | |
You know, you're being conscious about the budget, you thought about it, You're thinking forward. | 00:48:30 | |
And you're doing a very practical but but. | 00:48:34 | |
You know, I think it's going to be very effective. I just have two questions. Since we're sort of on the record, could you repeat | 00:48:37 | |
for everybody what your website is? Oh, yes, so M as in Mary, the number 8. | 00:48:43 | |
Wellness.com.com OK MA Wellness and. | 00:48:49 | |
I love the education component. That's what really attracted me when you applied. | 00:48:54 | |
I can talk more about that too. Yeah. And the 40 day Wellness program. | 00:48:58 | |
Is that a self-paced program or it is. We had an initial group gathering and we're going to have an ending group gathering. So | 00:49:03 | |
we've added. So along with that space upstairs I have room to have more people for like workshop based material and it is | 00:49:09 | |
self-paced. | 00:49:15 | |
This particular version, they get 8 chapters. It's been quite a lot of content that I. | 00:49:22 | |
It off a lot to get it going but I have two more chapters to write and it'll be over. But they it's learning about. | 00:49:28 | |
Learning about food, but in an Ayurvedic standpoint. So how nature and you know what you put into your body, how you sleep and all | 00:49:40 | |
those things that just go along with a healthy, balanced life. | 00:49:45 | |
There's tools to the. | 00:49:52 | |
To the 40 days that they can get, they can use it as much as they want. It includes recipes and all that kind of stuff, and | 00:49:54 | |
they'll have it forever. They don't lose their access. | 00:49:59 | |
Congratulations, Keep it going. Thank you. And you mentioned the education, so we did do. I have been doing teacher training for | 00:50:05 | |
quite a long time. Most of the teachers who graduate from my program if they want to. | 00:50:10 | |
They work with us. | 00:50:17 | |
And that included we had we hired. When I I looked back actually an application from last year and I'm like what did I write and. | 00:50:18 | |
A lot of the things that I'd written last year in January, I believe I had done. So I had hired more teachers and and all of that. | 00:50:28 | |
Since then we've had another teacher training program and. | 00:50:33 | |
Three of those students had graduated, two of them are. | 00:50:40 | |
Working with me now, one is an apprentice to work with me. | 00:50:45 | |
I've lost Emma because she is pregnant. I don't have I lost your nerves? | 00:50:48 | |
Yeah, so. | 00:50:54 | |
So we are still and that's another thing. | 00:50:55 | |
That I'm working on is creating the teacher training program as well to be a bit more. | 00:50:58 | |
Online So. | 00:51:05 | |
My website has offered. | 00:51:07 | |
More like online courses. So that's been really helpful, like the whole. | 00:51:10 | |
Being able to give more. | 00:51:15 | |
At a self pace I think is. | 00:51:17 | |
Hopeful to people as well. | 00:51:19 | |
I just want to say wow. I mean, seriously, you are killing it. You are really amazing. I'm so impressed with the diversity of ages | 00:51:24 | |
that you're addressing. | 00:51:28 | |
The young teams, young people, teens have a place to go. I mean, the youth center is something, but it's not doesn't offer dance. | 00:51:32 | |
It's it's just brilliant. The whole thing is brilliant. | 00:51:40 | |
And honestly? | 00:51:44 | |
I have a lot of dreams and a lot of desires, but when I was offered this grant, it really did. | 00:51:47 | |
It really helped me. | 00:51:53 | |
Because it's hard, you know? You think I'm gonna do this? | 00:51:55 | |
Then you have to pay for it. | 00:52:00 | |
And have and and you know. | 00:52:03 | |
I didn't know how much time I had, but I was going to say if I had gotten this grant in January last year, it would have been a | 00:52:06 | |
completely different. | 00:52:09 | |
Story. | 00:52:12 | |
Only because I had a plan for it. Then by the time we got to November, so much had changed. And in a way, I learned so much just | 00:52:14 | |
about my business. And I've had a similar business before, but. | 00:52:20 | |
New to the Pacific Grove area. | 00:52:28 | |
I learned a lot about my community and the time I learned about a lot about my own values. | 00:52:30 | |
And that helped me move forward. And so I feel like the timing was perfect because it really. | 00:52:35 | |
It's going to go a lot farther. | 00:52:43 | |
So I'm happy about that, yeah. | 00:52:46 | |
Congratulations. | 00:52:50 | |
I do have one question for you, and that's as a Commission. | 00:52:52 | |
Looking towards the city. | 00:52:57 | |
Do you have any? | 00:52:58 | |
Feedback as a business owner that we can. | 00:53:00 | |
Receive and is there anything that you're experiencing as a small business in the community that would be? | 00:53:03 | |
Useful for us to to know about to potentially help to support you and your growth. | 00:53:12 | |
Well, you know, like I said when I was listening, it was actually quite interesting to be here. I was especially my ears were | 00:53:21 | |
perked when you guys were talking about all the vacancies and just different. | 00:53:26 | |
I don't think we know each other. | 00:53:32 | |
And that could be on my. | 00:53:35 | |
My side as well, I started my business at the beginning of 2022 or. | 00:53:38 | |
Rented the space 2021, so it was like a very strange time. But I don't know a lot of the other local businesses unless I | 00:53:43 | |
personally reach out. So I don't know if there's any way for you to get us all together, even with like a. | 00:53:50 | |
An e-mail list. | 00:53:57 | |
I know. And that and when you're working, it's hard, like I would be teaching right now. So you never get to go to the. | 00:54:00 | |
To the mixers. But yeah, so other ways just to get us together, I had tried a. | 00:54:07 | |
When I first opened, I created like a Wellness event in the studio. | 00:54:14 | |
But my landlord didn't like it. | 00:54:21 | |
To stop doing that, I was trying to get our Wellness community together and have people come and small vendors, things like you're | 00:54:24 | |
in the ballpark. I did it in our parking lot and. | 00:54:30 | |
Didn't go over so well, so looking for things to do like that. Like I'd love to be able to get more groups of us together somehow | 00:54:36 | |
to. | 00:54:40 | |
Collaborate. | 00:54:45 | |
Work with each other. I think that would help us all because then people like to go to those events. | 00:54:47 | |
And then they meet new vendors and. | 00:54:54 | |
I don't know if there's more of that or maybe. | 00:54:57 | |
Direct like come do this type of thing. | 00:55:02 | |
Actually, one of the ideas that the committee for the Chalk the Block Chalk Art Festival is to have local businesses involved and | 00:55:08 | |
to pair up with an artist to do some chalk work for you and something that highlights your business and be able to stand there and | 00:55:15 | |
talk to. All because it's going to be hundreds of people and you know, to talk to people as they come by because whatever the | 00:55:22 | |
Chalk art is could be reflective of your business. So that would be neat. So just a thought. | 00:55:29 | |
After there's many other forums, but that's that's one that we just talked about recently, so OK. | 00:55:37 | |
Thank you. | 00:55:43 | |
Thanks for taking the time to come and give us an update. We really appreciate it. | 00:55:46 | |
Yeah, yeah. We'll reach out again. | 00:55:54 | |
Thanks. | 00:55:57 | |
OK. Well then that takes us to the next item on the agenda, PG website update and Laurel, you have some updates for us on the site | 00:56:04 | |
and progress on. | 00:56:08 | |
So Paul, our IT management. | 00:56:14 | |
Analyst is going to give this update. | 00:56:18 | |
Hello. | 00:56:29 | |
Can you hear me? | 00:56:30 | |
Hi, I'm Paul. I'm the IT management analyst here. And. | 00:56:33 | |
Yeah, thanks for that list. We we kind of went through it and. | 00:56:36 | |
Look at the updates that we could make changes to and ones that kind of made sense. And I have a file. In fact, what I'll do is | 00:56:42 | |
I'll just share my screen. | 00:56:47 | |
Here, take over. Here, just make myself a. | 00:56:53 | |
Panelist. | 00:56:57 | |
I I can comment on #10 Paul that we did talk about the videos. They came from the chamber. | 00:58:00 | |
And we know they're old and that was a request we had put in to make new videos, but this is a budget issue that. | 00:58:08 | |
Maybe Bob has some input on? | 00:58:17 | |
Paul, did you have anything that you were going to speak to or are we just reading through this? | 00:58:32 | |
Are you muted? | 00:58:38 | |
OK. Sorry, but we haven't heard anything that you said. | 00:58:43 | |
Can you hear me now? | 00:58:49 | |
Yeah, hello. | 00:58:51 | |
Yes, we can hear you. So maybe we can do a reset here because we we didn't hear any voice from you. | 00:58:55 | |
This entire time, I apologize. | 00:59:00 | |
OK, well. | 00:59:03 | |
I don't know if I want to go through all of these, but for the most part these design changes were. | 00:59:05 | |
Some of them were were valid, such as the responsive UI issue at the front page. | 00:59:11 | |
Umm, we did make some changes to. | 00:59:17 | |
The design of the page to consolidate a few pages down, splitting some pages up and and combining content in them. | 00:59:21 | |
But for the. | 00:59:30 | |
For the few items that I could not fix, such as what? | 00:59:31 | |
Laurel just mentioned the marketing issue with the videos. | 00:59:36 | |
I've marked those in the in the document. In this document the yellow. | 00:59:40 | |
Rows are the ones that I was able to resolve in any of the larger print. Those are things I couldn't resolve. | 00:59:46 | |
So for the homepage most of this was either resolved with an explanation. | 00:59:52 | |
Such as a removing page links from the footer. | 00:59:57 | |
That's part of the revised site design. They they have a unique purpose and. | 01:00:00 | |
For the most part, they. | 01:00:05 | |
Government page has sort of ethical web design concerns that we have to follow and best practices. | 01:00:07 | |
Like the floating alt tag at the video, which was one of the first suggestions. | 01:00:13 | |
So those kinds of things we have to kind of leave alone. | 01:00:18 | |
But some things, like the small description that's likely not going to be read because it's underneath so many other things. | 01:00:22 | |
That was a good point. So we converted that into a link that takes you to the white Pacific Grove page. | 01:00:28 | |
Like I said, I'll send this to the council members and you can review the changes that we made and the progress that we're at at | 01:00:37 | |
the moment. | 01:00:40 | |
As we continue to go through these, this is the home page. | 01:00:44 | |
As far as the white Pacific Grove page goes. | 01:00:49 | |
I haven't made, I haven't resolved too many of those issues or any of these issues. These require content or we're going to have | 01:00:53 | |
to refer to the makers of the community profile. | 01:00:58 | |
And the market analysis maps. | 01:01:03 | |
For explanations as to why. | 01:01:05 | |
These items aren't aren't in there. | 01:01:08 | |
The one thing on this page that I can work on though is for the PG districts. It would be helpful to have a map showing the exact | 01:01:11 | |
locations of different districts. | 01:01:15 | |
As the app next door does, it's a valid design change. That's something we can work on. | 01:01:19 | |
But some of these I would I would need some more info on like the business directories. Bad if you could explain. | 01:01:25 | |
More of that. | 01:01:30 | |
And the parklet program we did find is very out of date. | 01:01:32 | |
So we've taken that. I've hidden that for the moment on the site. | 01:01:37 | |
There's no reference to it, and we could come up with a. | 01:01:42 | |
Marketing, I would imagine would come up with a more recent, more up-to-date flyer for where we are on the Parkland program. | 01:01:45 | |
On the resources page. | 01:01:53 | |
We took care of the couple of the items. We simplified the. | 01:01:55 | |
Everything under taxes and licenses. | 01:01:59 | |
And we updated the government office. | 01:02:01 | |
A flyer. | 01:02:05 | |
But for the. | 01:02:08 | |
Links the fact that. | 01:02:10 | |
This was a good point. A lot of our pages on there looks like it looked like they were meant to be expanded, so they were just a. | 01:02:12 | |
Left NAV of links and then in the middle the content was just the same. Links doubled up. | 01:02:20 | |
So I've taken care of a few of those, but a lot of those, they really just need content and. | 01:02:25 | |
I can hide them, but I prefer if we could. | 01:02:30 | |
Possibly go to the source of the original content and maybe get content in there. | 01:02:34 | |
As a as a web designer I can't produce that content, but I can certainly post it once we have it. | 01:02:39 | |
Any graphic design or verbiage that we want to put on the site? | 01:02:44 | |
For this. | 01:02:49 | |
Same with the start of business section and the final location. I went ahead and removed that from that area. | 01:02:52 | |
As far as the last two pages go. | 01:03:00 | |
I'm so look looking into these but the. | 01:03:05 | |
This page has exactly the same problem I. | 01:03:08 | |
This is the BD page and I forget what that stands for, but it's the same thing. It's a bunch of links and the left NAV. | 01:03:11 | |
We're working on. | 01:03:18 | |
Possibly getting more content for that. | 01:03:19 | |
And the there's a map on there that needs to be updated. | 01:03:21 | |
I'll have to refer to. | 01:03:26 | |
Laurel possibly on that as far as the source of that map originally. | 01:03:27 | |
And there the More info button under each property listed. | 01:03:33 | |
So this is a description of the property. More info and it takes you to another page that shows you. | 01:03:39 | |
Less info than the original page showed you, but it's different info that looks like it's a design. | 01:03:45 | |
From that vendor, whoever we got it from, we could talk to them about maybe moving that same info into the same page. | 01:03:51 | |
But as far as more info goes, it is technically more info, it's just. | 01:03:58 | |
Less than the original page showed, it's just a different set of information. | 01:04:02 | |
So again, thanks for this list. It was a. | 01:04:07 | |
There were there were good suggestions and we made some of the changes. | 01:04:10 | |
That were listed so far and hopefully we'll get through the rest of it. | 01:04:14 | |
In the next month or so. | 01:04:17 | |
No, it's for Councilman. Councilmember Richmond appreciate it. | 01:04:22 | |
Commissioner. | 01:04:26 | |
So before we move on to Commissioner comments and questions quickly just to open up to public comment, any public comment on this. | 01:04:28 | |
Seen Oh. | 01:04:37 | |
OK. Stormer, you have the floor. | 01:04:40 | |
Thank you. I'm sorry, was this the questions and answers and the responses? Was this published on the agenda item? | 01:04:45 | |
Umm. And is it going to be on the Minutes so that it's available to the public to look at also? | 01:04:55 | |
That's just my question because it explains a lot. | 01:05:05 | |
Thank you very much. | 01:05:09 | |
Thank you. And perhaps Paul, you can provide a bit more background on this as well because the document that you're sharing here. | 01:05:12 | |
It sounds as though this was feedback that was provided directly. | 01:05:20 | |
Yes, I received an e-mail from Well, we received an e-mail from Commissioner Richmond. | 01:05:24 | |
Regarding some of the changes and we just converted it into a small project. | 01:05:29 | |
To take care of overtime, the document is. | 01:05:35 | |
Created from the that list of of. | 01:05:39 | |
Requests. | 01:05:42 | |
OK, so I. | 01:05:45 | |
Going forward, I think my first question before we open the floor to everyone else is. | 01:05:48 | |
Two questions. One is ownership of the site here and where? | 01:05:55 | |
Responsibilities fall for maintenance. | 01:06:01 | |
And secondly. | 01:06:03 | |
A schedule for maintenance on the site. I would like to hear more just on what the plan is going forward because. | 01:06:06 | |
I want to thank Commissioner Richmond for taking the time to put together this spreadsheet that was incredibly helpful. | 01:06:13 | |
But as it currently stands, there is. | 01:06:19 | |
That I'm aware of, no. | 01:06:24 | |
Structure to maintaining the site or schedule around that, that I'm familiar with. So can you speak to that a bit? Is there a | 01:06:26 | |
plan? | 01:06:30 | |
That's a very good question. From my perspective, I just simply took this on as the. | 01:06:37 | |
IT person who handles any of the CMS changes. | 01:06:42 | |
This site is separate from our main site and the library site in that it was started by the previous city manager. | 01:06:46 | |
He was kind of managing it and had a schedule and I. | 01:06:53 | |
I've kind of just been brought in, but I can certainly. | 01:06:58 | |
Set set it up so that we do have a scheduled maintenance on this. That's. | 01:07:01 | |
That follows because yes, a few things have been left behind. | 01:07:06 | |
As a result of a lack of maintenance. | 01:07:09 | |
We I can meet with Laurel and and City Manager Bob about that. | 01:07:13 | |
And we'll come up with a better schedule going forward. | 01:07:21 | |
And and that's not to suggest by any means Paul that that's something that's a reflection on you. I just I think that it would be | 01:07:25 | |
very helpful for us to have that information. | 01:07:29 | |
Oh yeah, thank you updates. | 01:07:33 | |
Any further questions, comments from the Commission? | 01:07:37 | |
I did well, it's not, it's more a comment. I do have a login to add. | 01:07:40 | |
New properties that become available, but my login broke. So I need to get a new login for it, but that's the only piece of it | 01:07:47 | |
that I have the ability to add. And I don't think I have the ability to delete anything. I can just add new content I believe, but | 01:07:54 | |
I'll talk to the new IT person. So Paul, I'll be giving you a call. Thank you. | 01:08:00 | |
I actually have one other question and that's based off of. | 01:08:08 | |
Some historical knowledge that I have coming from sitting on the Commission, from prior terms. | 01:08:12 | |
Laurel, you may be able to speak to this, or maybe not, but at one point we had allocated. | 01:08:18 | |
Advertising funding to support this page and promote it. | 01:08:23 | |
Have we utilized all those funds? Have they been? | 01:08:28 | |
Fully spent. | 01:08:31 | |
I would have to look into that because that was when we had the previous city manager and we had. | 01:08:34 | |
Like a group we were working with that didn't social media. | 01:08:42 | |
That we don't have a. | 01:08:46 | |
We don't work with them anymore. | 01:08:49 | |
So. | 01:08:51 | |
If I could. | 01:08:55 | |
I absolutely understand. | 01:08:58 | |
There has been transition, obviously. | 01:09:01 | |
In in my position. | 01:09:06 | |
And as a part of that transmission. | 01:09:07 | |
I can say that I think we need to do a better job of not only. | 01:09:12 | |
Of the city's website, as as well as anything that the EDC has on board here, and I've asked at least in the interim. | 01:09:17 | |
To establish a staff working group. | 01:09:30 | |
Rather than. | 01:09:33 | |
Taking this outside. | 01:09:35 | |
That we can periodically review and identify what needs to be updated or changed or corrected. So we're aware of the problem and | 01:09:38 | |
attempting to work out a process to deal with it. | 01:09:45 | |
That's great. Thank you very much. | 01:09:54 | |
Anything further? | 01:09:57 | |
Commissioner good. | 01:09:58 | |
So this is to the city manager, thank you chair. The previous city manager had discretionary budget up to 39,000. | 01:09:59 | |
$999 Does it? Does the interim city manager have a discretionary budget? | 01:10:07 | |
That could be used to make some of the more. | 01:10:13 | |
Obvious fixes or. | 01:10:16 | |
Allocate the advertising. | 01:10:19 | |
Well, it it certainly is something that I would look at. Ultimately the the city manager department or the city manager is the | 01:10:22 | |
authority to actually write the checks per se. | 01:10:30 | |
So I would have to review, you know, what was originally budgeted, how much is left? | 01:10:39 | |
And if we were able to dedicate. | 01:10:45 | |
Any of that in such a way you know. | 01:10:49 | |
So, so good. So we could. | 01:10:52 | |
I'm not asking you to do it. | 01:10:55 | |
If you look into it, could you report back and let us know? I will. We'll keep this on the agenda and come back with it next | 01:10:57 | |
month. Got it. And. | 01:11:02 | |
So I just had a couple things that they more maybe on the list. | 01:11:11 | |
Commissioner Richmond put together, uh, maybe not so. Just a couple of more. It seemed to me to be important the the. | 01:11:15 | |
Customer for this website isn't the internal community it could be, but. | 01:11:23 | |
I always thought it was directed towards somebody. | 01:11:28 | |
Was thinking of coming to Pacific Roll or creating a business exploring the area. I want to know more about the community, the | 01:11:31 | |
market, data, etc. | 01:11:34 | |
So the links should be helpful and they should be working. So if I'm looking to open a business, one of the most important | 01:11:39 | |
questions you get is do you have water, do you need water? You know is there water credits? And I it's maybe it's fixed today, I | 01:11:45 | |
tried it yesterday. | 01:11:50 | |
The links to the water credits do not work. | 01:11:56 | |
What do you mean linked to water credits doesn't mean each building has their own. | 01:12:02 | |
And each landlord knows that answer. So I guess I'm curious, I I don't remember seeing that on the website. | 01:12:06 | |
Are you talking about our entitlement letter? | 01:12:14 | |
Commissioner, good, so on the on the peak on the PG. | 01:12:17 | |
If I'm exploring opening a business. | 01:12:21 | |
I know that water credits are important. | 01:12:23 | |
And there are two links on the Pick PG website on, you know, open the business in PG. | 01:12:26 | |
And you click on them to see what the process is. | 01:12:31 | |
You know what? What's going on with the water credits? Are they available, and what the process is if I need them? | 01:12:35 | |
Those links for information or you know, links to other sources that can tell me that. | 01:12:40 | |
When you click on the link on the Pick PG website. | 01:12:46 | |
It comes up with an error message. | 01:12:49 | |
OK. Well, Paul? | 01:12:51 | |
Is listening and we can work on that. | 01:12:54 | |
OK, yeah, I'm just I I've mentioned it before. I mentioned it a couple times. The link still didn't work. Yes, So I. | 01:12:56 | |
The market analysis which I understand was provided by HDL. | 01:13:05 | |
I and I think some of the problems with the maps were identified. | 01:13:10 | |
If it was up to me and I would make the recommendation. | 01:13:15 | |
The maps aren't that useful. The market data analysis is useful. The maps. | 01:13:18 | |
Are useless if I could just say that. | 01:13:23 | |
So, for example, doesn't show any places to eat on Forest Hill. | 01:13:26 | |
But it shows in Monterey and Marina. There's no green dots on Lighthouse, which indicate, you know, restaurants. | 01:13:30 | |
So. | 01:13:38 | |
I would just remove the maps. I think they're separate and distinct from the data. | 01:13:39 | |
Itself. There are also maps. | 01:13:44 | |
For restaurants, there's also one for markets, so the market map. | 01:13:48 | |
Shows Costco and Target. | 01:13:52 | |
But Grove Market? | 01:13:54 | |
Is not on the map. | 01:13:55 | |
Local markets are not on the map, so I think rather than fix it, I don't think it's that useful, I recommend you just take them | 01:13:57 | |
down. Leave the market data up there, but take the map down because there is an introductory map that is fully functional. You can | 01:14:03 | |
zoom in, you can zoom out, and most of the businesses are there at the top of the page. I would just leave that map there or refer | 01:14:09 | |
to that map. | 01:14:14 | |
If somebody's looking for the the information. | 01:14:21 | |
There's a page that has logos, so there's still a logo on there for Kelly Moore. | 01:14:25 | |
Jersey Mike's isn't on there, right? So some of the business logos and I don't know how that works, maybe they're not supposed to | 01:14:30 | |
be on there, but it's not been updated and it and it should be, and I agree the product page needs to be updated. | 01:14:38 | |
And the last thing I have is that the. | 01:14:46 | |
There's some information dedicated to the new Kimpton Hotel. | 01:14:49 | |
And the information on there says it actually it hasn't broken. | 01:14:54 | |
Ground yet? | 01:14:58 | |
Unless the meteor hit that site and left a great big hole. | 01:14:59 | |
You know there is some work going on and it would be nice to have. | 01:15:03 | |
Updated pictures, at least that show I want to check. | 01:15:07 | |
Yesterday I think it was. The real progress has been made. They got the returning wall up, They've got the ground smoothed out and | 01:15:10 | |
they're getting ready to lay the foundation, it looks like. So it's very exciting. We should reflect that on the big PG website. | 01:15:16 | |
Yeah, thank you for that because we do have a. | 01:15:22 | |
PG hotel website that we made and all can just link. | 01:15:28 | |
To that where we in that we are keeping that update that yes, groundspoken, we've been adding photos there and yes, you didn't see | 01:15:34 | |
him, I just didn't see him on the Pick PG website, OK. So it just take if there's a length just take down what's on the Pick BG | 01:15:38 | |
website. | 01:15:43 | |
And just, you know, refer to the link. | 01:15:48 | |
I'm trying to speak better for Mr. Olive. Thank you. | 01:15:51 | |
OK. | 01:15:54 | |
Have a business in PG, so that was kind of something I mentioned as well. So I think a lot of your concerns, they were things that | 01:16:31 | |
I had mentioned. So it looks like Paul's working on quite a few of them. So I guess once Paul's kind of through those, I can | 01:16:37 | |
probably take another look and see kind of how those things flow afterwards. | 01:16:43 | |
Could be helpful. | 01:16:49 | |
Like to? | 01:16:51 | |
Thank you. I apologize so the interest of time and also just trying to consolidate feedback as best as possible here I. | 01:17:08 | |
I'd like to make a motion to see if we want to have a subcommittee take a review of the site in its current form and work with. | 01:17:17 | |
With Paul or someone at City TO. | 01:17:26 | |
Recommend any further updates so that we can. | 01:17:29 | |
We can have all of that collected in one place. | 01:17:33 | |
I would suggest instead of another subcommittee meeting, that you have one person on this Commission. I'm assuming that would be | 01:17:36 | |
Kelsey, where everything gets funneled to her and she serves as the staff liaison liaison to the staff. | 01:17:43 | |
If she's willing to do it, I'm I'm fine with that if the rest of the Commission is comfortable providing one person. | 01:17:50 | |
You know the power to do that. | 01:17:56 | |
Yeah. I mean, you can have a subcommittee with one person, yeah. | 01:17:59 | |
Because he's most knowledgeable about that. | 01:18:02 | |
And me more efficient, so we'll just get a second and then. | 01:18:05 | |
Motion seconded. | 01:18:11 | |
I'll do a vote. | 01:18:13 | |
Commissioner, the nudie. | 01:18:17 | |
Aye, Commissioner Gibbs. Yes, Vice Chair Jacobs. Aye, Chair Upman. | 01:18:19 | |
Commissioner Richmond Aye and Commissioner Hoops Aye motion passes six to zero with one absent to form a sub committee consisting | 01:18:24 | |
of. | 01:18:29 | |
Commissioner Richmond to work with our IT staff. | 01:18:35 | |
On Pick PG website. Thank you. And if we would that I know a matter of the fact that have a maintenance schedule as part of. | 01:18:40 | |
Of this process that we could review? | 01:18:48 | |
Every time would be good. | 01:18:51 | |
Yeah, we'll see. I'm not. We'll see how often that is. I don't know if I can take on a whole job of maintenance single. | 01:18:53 | |
Website, but yes. | 01:19:01 | |
No, I think you mean just that they're not that you have to do it, but just no, no, I'm not just that the city would have a main | 01:19:04 | |
schedule. Yes, That would just be one of your things to ask about. Yes, there you go. | 01:19:10 | |
Yeah. All right. | 01:19:17 | |
Let's go ahead and move on to the QR Code Business Information Program update. Commissioner Hoops, do you have? | 01:19:19 | |
Any updates to provide on the QR code? | 01:19:26 | |
Yeah, briefly. | 01:19:29 | |
Subcommittee consisting of myself and Commissioner Richmond did meet. | 01:19:32 | |
And discuss ideas. | 01:19:36 | |
To create. | 01:19:39 | |
The the sort of. | 01:19:40 | |
Request facing information for for like. | 01:19:43 | |
Business that would get involved in this in this program. | 01:19:46 | |
So one of the things this is working with city Staff Laurel to. | 01:19:50 | |
Create some kind of flyer or some sort of informative thing, much like the facade program that. | 01:19:56 | |
We put out two businesses to get them involved, so I. | 01:20:01 | |
Came up with a name. | 01:20:06 | |
Kind of. You know bullet points what it is. Here's what's the program is, this is how it works. And then submitted all that to | 01:20:08 | |
Laurel and then. | 01:20:12 | |
That's sort of on its way, I guess, into the ether of city staff, I guess. | 01:20:16 | |
I don't know how what the timeline is on on your end or how back those things are. Yeah. So I can make the flyer similar to the | 01:20:22 | |
facade program and and application and I'll get all working on all that and bring it to the next meeting. Yeah, OK. | 01:20:28 | |
And when did we end up calling it local business discovery program? | 01:20:35 | |
Sounds a lot better than QR code program. | 01:20:40 | |
So we kind of wanted it to have something that people. | 01:20:43 | |
Understood. The basis of the program just from hearing the title like about. | 01:20:47 | |
You know this thing is going to have people understand. | 01:20:50 | |
The businesses that are in town, So that was sort of the idea, umm. | 01:20:54 | |
Yeah, that's where we're at. Anything to add? | 01:20:59 | |
And also before we met as a subcommittee, I just reached out to a handful of businesses to see if they'd be interested because I | 01:21:02 | |
said I would do that last time. And if I'm including wild Fish, 'cause I'm assuming Liz will be down, we've got at least nine | 01:21:08 | |
already. And that's just for me directly asking. I haven't put it out to the public. So I mean, we already have. | 01:21:14 | |
We're already doing our whole budget already at the budget if the if, all those. | 01:21:21 | |
You know theoretical yeses or yeses, and then the budget is more or less spent and. | 01:21:26 | |
Yeah. So, so proof of concept a little bit. We're we're there. So we got to you know. | 01:21:32 | |
Do the do all, check all the boxes here formally and get it going and then we'll be off the races here so. | 01:21:36 | |
I do want to add that Amber Russell from Over the Moon is interested in learning more as well. There you go. And I'm sure M8 | 01:21:44 | |
Wellness and Lucy's, you know, like, I'm sure. Yeah. Easy. Yeah. And that's like, I mean a perfect addition for, you know, the | 01:21:48 | |
little. | 01:21:52 | |
Place on lighthouse there that that would be great you know. | 01:21:56 | |
Diversity to add to that program too, so it's perfect. | 01:22:01 | |
Have any public comment on the program? | 01:22:06 | |
Great. Any further comments or questions from Commission? | 01:22:14 | |
I just had one question, sorry. I did have one question. Do you know about a timeline for when the applications might be | 01:22:19 | |
available? | 01:22:23 | |
Like a month, two months. They said bring them to the next meeting. OK. Sorry I didn't hear that. Yeah. So once that's. | 01:22:28 | |
Once the pliers created and we see that at the next meeting, then I mean what? So I guess that's a question of the Commission then | 01:22:34 | |
is like what is? | 01:22:37 | |
Considering we you know we have some tentative people involved here like what do we want to issue as a timeline for we're | 01:22:42 | |
accepting you know applicants type of thing. Is this should we put it up for 60 days or? | 01:22:48 | |
Or open-ended and just say the budget is spent at this time and you're in, you're on the wait list type of thing Or like I mean, | 01:22:56 | |
I'd welcome some input here. | 01:23:00 | |
I think at the last meeting you were saying similar to the facade program, which we don't do a weightless, we just say. | 01:23:05 | |
It's the budgets done for this fiscal year. | 01:23:13 | |
And then relaunch it. | 01:23:16 | |
And the next fiscal year if more money is allocated. So the other part of that discussion was? | 01:23:18 | |
Well, we'll get firm yeses from people once the program is going. But then the other thing that we discussed when this was when we | 01:23:24 | |
allocated the original 10,000 was that. | 01:23:28 | |
You know, there's opportunity to revisit that gets spent. So I guess let's see March, April, May, June, yeah, we should have be | 01:23:32 | |
able to come in under the wire there and. | 01:23:37 | |
Throw a couple more bucks at it if there's if there's people that are interested. So that was gonna be my question is we've got | 01:23:43 | |
the 9 grand sitting on the table so sure if we need to spend it, let's. | 01:23:47 | |
Make sure that we're keeping track of that. | 01:23:52 | |
Commissioner Getz, you know, I've said before I love the program and I one of the things I like about it is that it's not just | 01:23:54 | |
business oriented. We have assets in town. We have things that people come to see from all over the world. I'd like to see at | 01:23:59 | |
least one, whether it's a lighthouse. | 01:24:05 | |
You know QR code on the whale down by the Natural History Museum, but at least one non business or one not-for-profit included in | 01:24:10 | |
the initial round somehow, as you say, if that's possible. | 01:24:16 | |
Yeah, I mean that would be, I mean maybe you want to take that on yourself to go to some. | 01:24:23 | |
Organization you know the Save the Barn organization I'm sure has some sort of funds that they I knew they fundraising. So I don't | 01:24:28 | |
know what you know if they've got a little bit I mean it's it's a pretty low cost input for I think it's very generous on on | 01:24:33 | |
behalf of the city and this program to. | 01:24:38 | |
To do that. So I think that like there is opportunity for sort of a non profit to to join the ranks. I mean I'm, I'm. | 01:24:44 | |
I have no dog in the fight about who does it. The more the better. | 01:24:51 | |
Yeah, I mean if if you know people or if you want to solicit one of the the local, I mean I would like their. I think the caveat | 01:24:57 | |
would be I think for the initial round it's. | 01:25:01 | |
Visibility is important, so maybe all the way out to the White House. | 01:25:05 | |
Not the greatest idea to launch the program, but like the barn right here in the center of PG or the Natural History Museum or | 01:25:09 | |
something like this that's a non profit I think would be a great idea to include. | 01:25:14 | |
With the program, because I do, I do really like that. Yeah. Yeah. And the. | 01:25:20 | |
Natural History, excuse me, Natural History Museum's got a new director, so. | 01:25:24 | |
Yeah, I don't mind reaching out, but Jenny, maybe you would be the better person. Yeah, Rachel is start. Actually, she started. So | 01:25:29 | |
she's new. And I was gonna invite her actually to come to EDC in April just to introduce herself. Yeah, good idea. I just have | 01:25:36 | |
wrong. If I could just. I just have one more thought and then I'll be done in the city manager's report. | 01:25:43 | |
There was a paragraph about the QR code and how excited everybody was. I'd like to see that again. Maybe Aaron you could write | 01:25:51 | |
something, a short paragraph to describe kind of where we are with it and and City Manager, would you think that would be possible | 01:25:56 | |
to? | 01:26:01 | |
Having the report. | 01:26:07 | |
Certainly an update. | 01:26:08 | |
I'm sorry for asking, but no, it's, I mean it's fine. I mean I think we we have, I mean basically essentially the minutes are the | 01:26:10 | |
update, right. We just received the report and we're in. | 01:26:14 | |
We're in process. So uh, yeah, maybe after the next meeting that might be more appropriate to say. | 01:26:19 | |
This is now launched and go find the flyer on the website. It's kind of. | 01:26:26 | |
I think a little premature to announce and then have nowhere to point anybody so. | 01:26:31 | |
But happy to do it and I think that's a great idea. Thank you. | 01:26:37 | |
Yeah, I really want to bring up the question of the purpose of these funds in the EDC in relation to the nonprofit sector. | 01:26:42 | |
I think the purpose of this program is to build business. | 01:26:51 | |
And I think, I mean, I was in the nonprofit sector for 40 years. So it's not that I don't support that idea, but I think the | 01:26:55 | |
purpose of this Commission. | 01:26:59 | |
Is to help businesses. | 01:27:03 | |
And I'm not sure that the Natural History Museum is a business. | 01:27:06 | |
So I question whether we should include them at this time. | 01:27:11 | |
I think that's a really valid point for discussion. I think that the. | 01:27:14 | |
The counter that I would say would be sort of the rising tide lifts all boats argument is that. | 01:27:21 | |
You know, this is designed for people that are here to stay here. | 01:27:26 | |
And and you know go to local businesses and patronize them and and I think that there is. | 01:27:32 | |
There's an argument to be made that if there is. | 01:27:38 | |
Information that exists in a place that people are going already like the museum and things like this that draws people and they | 01:27:41 | |
might come to town specifically for that and then leave if we can capture some of those people to then. | 01:27:46 | |
Patronize businesses there. There is an argument to be made for that. However, I completely understand you know your comment and | 01:27:52 | |
that there there is, you know, a little bit. | 01:27:57 | |
Where is our money best spent? Question I. | 01:28:02 | |
But I think that there is. | 01:28:05 | |
There is value in supporting. | 01:28:07 | |
Foot traffic drawing nonprofits with this program. | 01:28:13 | |
Because that just. | 01:28:16 | |
By the nature of extension of more people in town and then hitting them with information like, there will be impact on business, | 01:28:18 | |
however indirect. | 01:28:23 | |
So measuring that return on investment is difficult, but I think it. | 01:28:27 | |
Probably is pretty easy to agree that there will be an impact, but maybe, yeah, there I'm not again. | 01:28:33 | |
At this point, like it's not it's it's the commission's baby, it's not my baby. So like, I'm perfectly happy to to. | 01:28:40 | |
Concede the argument that. | 01:28:47 | |
Our money is better spent directly on business, so. | 01:28:49 | |
At least in the first, you know, launch period I guess if you. | 01:28:53 | |
Want to call it that, so I would just. | 01:28:56 | |
Just a It's a valid point. I would point out that nonprofit businesses are still a business. | 01:28:59 | |
They have. | 01:29:07 | |
They draw clients and customers to town, whether it's a Natural History Museum or an organization that does training for. | 01:29:08 | |
You know, hundreds of kids and the parents come to town. So. And nonprofits can also be members of the Chamber of Commerce. | 01:29:16 | |
And I would say if you said you didn't do it. | 01:29:22 | |
And I had a non profit, I'd ask the question. | 01:29:25 | |
You know why was I not eligible for this program? And I think it would be. | 01:29:28 | |
That could be. I wouldn't want to have to explain that myself. Is there? | 01:29:33 | |
Is there, is there a way to bridge both and say it's X price for you know for profit institutions and X you know price for non | 01:29:40 | |
profit institutions? I mean does that does that help? Yeah, I don't think it's the price like the medicine go down if you got 10 | 01:29:46 | |
in the first nine in the first pass. | 01:29:52 | |
You know, a high, a high traffic nonprofit. One out of nine is doesn't seem to be, you know, unfair. Sure, but I mean to marry. | 01:30:00 | |
Commissioner Van Duty's point is that it's like if we're saying you know. | 01:30:10 | |
If we're going to land on the total cost being about $2000 per. | 01:30:14 | |
For, you know, business. | 01:30:18 | |
And the city you know is going to fund 90% of that. Would it be easier to then say OK, the city is only going to fund 50% for a | 01:30:21 | |
non profit business or like a point of interest type thing, I mean is that? | 01:30:26 | |
Does that does that matter to your viewpoint or is that OK? No, it's a business. They should meet the same rules as everybody | 01:30:32 | |
else. So I I don't think it would be different and you should include one. That's what my point is. | 01:30:38 | |
Thank you. All right, we have a couple of questions. Here's Commissioner, Vice Chair Jacobs. Yeah. So I just wanted to say that | 01:30:46 | |
whatever the cost like you know as a business I can do it for solid improvement, whatever I want. I can spend 2010 thousand, | 01:30:52 | |
whatever. But the city facade program I could apply for if I wanted to have some subsidy for it. I think that to let all the | 01:30:59 | |
businesses know that hey, if you want to go ahead and do this, you can pay the full price, you know and we do have this program | 01:31:05 | |
that. | 01:31:12 | |
You know, we will help to subsidize some of it, so maybe, maybe we need to. | 01:31:18 | |
Allow an Ave. for people that that aren't awarded A subsidy, but they still want to do it anyway, is there. So let me. | 01:31:25 | |
To ask Laurel was there. | 01:31:33 | |
In the information sent that's going to be included in the program, sort of. | 01:31:35 | |
Announcement Flyer would have you. | 01:31:40 | |
Is there a cost share stipulation in that? | 01:31:43 | |
Like, do we say we'll cover this much? | 01:31:49 | |
Well, are you going to cover? So this is the question I guess like maybe question to the Commission, is that like? | 01:31:52 | |
You know, if 50 people want to do this right away, is there money better spent? | 01:31:58 | |
Commissioner McMurdo has. | 01:32:02 | |
Well, the way the facade improvement program works is it's first come, first serve and if your application is approved then you're | 01:32:06 | |
you're in line and that's to make it fair for all. And so technically yes, it could be kind of any of these things I know that we | 01:32:12 | |
had said. | 01:32:17 | |
Businesses and or. | 01:32:24 | |
Profits have to just have an actual brick and mortar. That's kind of the the number one thing that they have in a physical space | 01:32:26 | |
here in PGS that someone can come up and actually use the QR code. But as far as how it gets picked, there's no criteria except | 01:32:34 | |
for the criteria that we have for the program and it is first come, first serve. So whoever ends up in that slew of the 1st 10. | 01:32:41 | |
Get it? The funds are used and then we can put more funds into it if we try to do that. Does that make sense? | 01:32:49 | |
OK, it makes sense. My question is then like. | 01:32:57 | |
If this is now like if this runs away and is generating way more interest than we thought, like, does it behoove us? | 01:33:02 | |
To to like. | 01:33:09 | |
To back off on the subsidy and spread it to more people or just say these are the 10 people that are going to get subsidy and the | 01:33:12 | |
rest of you pay full price. Yeah. Do you mind if I just jump in? Because we don't really know what we're going to get either. So I | 01:33:17 | |
feel like we're kind of jumping the gun just a little bit because we don't know how many people are actually going to sign up for | 01:33:22 | |
it. | 01:33:27 | |
I think it would be. It'll be wonderful if we get tons of people, but I kind of feel like we don't know yet what how successful it | 01:33:33 | |
will be. So I absolutely agree. My point is that. | 01:33:38 | |
Like when we put this thing out to the two business owners. | 01:33:44 | |
Are we gonna say what the subsidy is or are we gonna collect? | 01:33:48 | |
How many applications we get and then decide. | 01:33:53 | |
What's best to for the program viability in terms of subsidy? | 01:33:56 | |
Like if we think we should say it first, because that's how the facade program works, so you know what you're signing up for. I | 01:34:02 | |
would feel a little duped if I signed up for something and then they're like, oh, but you have to do this and it's not what I was | 01:34:06 | |
expecting. | 01:34:10 | |
I would rather know ahead of time. Can I make a suggestion too? | 01:34:14 | |
Maybe you two meet one more time and kind of iron out some of those things and then when we come in April with the application | 01:34:19 | |
inside. | 01:34:24 | |
You'll present it. | 01:34:29 | |
Instead of discussing OK and Mr. through the Chair, if I recall when you discussed this last. | 01:34:31 | |
You did discuss uh some participation coming from. | 01:34:40 | |
The business, if I recall and I would suggest and I agree with Commissioner Richmond, you want to be upfront about that so that | 01:34:46 | |
they know what the requirements are of them and I think it does help. | 01:34:55 | |
To have that to kind of a formula in place because that means the vendor or business is really going to buy in. | 01:35:04 | |
And participate if they're putting a little bit more on the line. So I just think that's a healthy decision to make and that in | 01:35:16 | |
and of itself will help that. | 01:35:22 | |
$10,000, go a little further. | 01:35:27 | |
Read OK. | 01:35:31 | |
One final question, just so when we do meet as a subcommittee again I understand, I know this is something we talked about and I | 01:35:35 | |
felt like we talked about it forever but then didn't really understand the answer at the end. How so is this, does this have to | 01:35:41 | |
work similar to similarly? | 01:35:46 | |
To the facade program, where the money has to come up front first and then we as the city are paying the film guys. Or like, how? | 01:35:52 | |
Do we know how that has to work? Well, that's this is different than the facade, because the Facade is like specific and it comes | 01:36:02 | |
from a specific account, and this is your EDC money that you're choosing. | 01:36:08 | |
Correct. And I would suggest that once you've got the program together and you know what that universe is. | 01:36:15 | |
And you have a specific vendor that you've already selected. If I remember correctly it it would be just a matter that the city | 01:36:25 | |
would write. | 01:36:31 | |
One check to the vendor. | 01:36:36 | |
And then collect whatever the remaining whatever is the business. | 01:36:39 | |
Yeah, that's easy. That's, that's what I was hoping for. That makes what we have to meet about a lot easier. So OK. | 01:36:47 | |
I feel good. I I would just my two cents on that matter from a business perspective is that we we collect. | 01:36:54 | |
As many participants as we can when we write that one check, and we write that one check for the number of participants that we | 01:37:01 | |
have. So it might be less than the total that's allocated towards. I just hate to write the total allocation over to a vendor and | 01:37:07 | |
then have to ask for it back. | 01:37:12 | |
Yeah. | 01:37:20 | |
OK, that takes us to Commissioner Richmond, an update on the. | 01:37:23 | |
Concert series. | 01:37:28 | |
I don't have an update because they still haven't told me anything. So I don't know. I think I was hoping I could have a quick | 01:37:29 | |
update. I know they met, right? Well, yeah. So I don't think you guys have met again, you've given us an update. We just kind of | 01:37:36 | |
kept it on the agenda so we don't forget about it. This item will be going to the March 14th Planning Commission meeting. The | 01:37:43 | |
other, the earlier one got cancelled due to power outages, so March 14th. | 01:37:50 | |
The special. | 01:37:57 | |
Concert series will go to the Planning Commission meeting 6:00. | 01:37:59 | |
I left it on here and I didn't mention I think, 'cause I do, I still want to discuss something about it. So thank you. Yeah. | 01:38:03 | |
Should I? Yeah, I should say before we bring her in. I guess what I wanted to know, because, I mean, let's say they do approve it. | 01:38:12 | |
That means it's already April by the time I'm hearing about it, Which means what? I've got a month to figure it out, so. | 01:38:20 | |
We never really figured, like finalized or figured out where the funds might be coming from for this and who exactly like am I? | 01:38:29 | |
Like, I know this is my idea and I put it on the agenda, but like who was actually running this? Is it me? Is it somebody else? | 01:38:37 | |
Like where the funds coming from for that? So I guess those things we should probably talk about in our final 20 minutes because I | 01:38:42 | |
need to be ready. | 01:38:47 | |
Mentally to figure this out if it is approved and we know by our next meeting. | 01:38:54 | |
So those are those are all fair questions. Let's open it for public comment and then let's get into that conversation. | 01:38:59 | |
Tell him where you have the floor. | 01:39:09 | |
Thank you, Chair and and Kelsey, my, my first question kind of is and yes, you're not home free just with the Planning Commission. | 01:39:10 | |
That's only for the CDP because it's in the coastal zone. | 01:39:17 | |
The next one is going to City Council and getting them approved, the special events calendar approved by that. So it's a two step | 01:39:25 | |
process there and I'm wondering kind of well, First off, why isn't the chamber involved in this? Because this really is a business | 01:39:33 | |
thing and this is what they were doing before and so I'm still wondering why the chamber isn't involved in this one. | 01:39:42 | |
And then in looking at dates, I have a question, Kelsey about Commissioner Richmond, about the July 5th date that you have. I | 01:39:51 | |
mean, obviously this special events calendar is not on the city website anymore. It comes and goes, but this was a tentative one | 01:40:00 | |
that I did print out and your EDC dates was for July 5th. | 01:40:09 | |
Well, we've already got the street closed for July 4th celebration at Jewel Park and you're proposing to do it another day, the | 01:40:18 | |
day after the July 4th celebration. So I'm just wondering about your dates too. And it's just these little things. And yeah, so | 01:40:27 | |
March 14th at at the Planning Commission, that'll be the first step here on on the CDP, but I've got the questions and I'll be | 01:40:35 | |
asking them again, but. | 01:40:43 | |
Think about them and maybe discuss them. | 01:40:53 | |
Thank you very much. | 01:40:55 | |
Just regarding the dates, thank you Miss Dahmer. We were just going with along with good Fridays and I don't. | 01:41:01 | |
First Fridays, yes, first Fridays. So that's just what we're going along with. Since that's something people are kind of already | 01:41:09 | |
aware of, we just wanted to continue. | 01:41:13 | |
People in our community walking around downtown and that was kind of the idea. And since it's not located anywhere here, I did | 01:41:18 | |
want to mention that we were actually hoping for this concert series to be earlier in the evening, so more like 5:00 to 7:00, so | 01:41:24 | |
that afterwards people go downtown and kind of eat dinner or something or go shopping. I. | 01:41:30 | |
So that's that's in regards to the dates, but I'll let Jenny mention about the Chamber comment. | 01:41:38 | |
Sure. Actually, this is Commissioner McMurdo. I I I actually talked to Kelsey about this quite a bit. We had an internal | 01:41:44 | |
discussion. | 01:41:49 | |
We, our staff was just getting really. | 01:41:55 | |
Really worn out by doing these every month because there's really only three of us and we were hauling all the barricades out and | 01:41:58 | |
hauling all the barricades in and setting stuff up. It just became a bit of a strain on my staff on a Friday night. So that's why | 01:42:05 | |
we decided not to do it again for the on the chamber side and that's why I was trying to. | 01:42:12 | |
Give Kelsey some of the, you know, the do's and don'ts that we learned last year. So we're definitely in. You know, we've been in | 01:42:20 | |
communication from the very beginning of it, so we'll be supportive of it. Obviously it just wasn't something that we could take | 01:42:25 | |
on again this year. | 01:42:29 | |
So if I can chime in. | 01:42:36 | |
My two cents on this and Commissioner Richmond. | 01:42:38 | |
I applaud you for your dedication to the community. | 01:42:43 | |
And your willingness to come up with really great ideas and and fun activities. | 01:42:47 | |
I personally. | 01:42:53 | |
I'm not at all comfortable with this falling on you. | 01:42:55 | |
If there is a cost associated with. | 01:43:00 | |
Creating this. | 01:43:03 | |
Ongoing event then it should also include staffing costs. | 01:43:05 | |
And we can as a. | 01:43:10 | |
Commission provide support but this is not something that I think there's any expectation on any of our parts for you to run this | 01:43:13 | |
or. | 01:43:18 | |
Staff this. | 01:43:24 | |
I have a feeling you would. | 01:43:26 | |
But. | 01:43:29 | |
You are just like my wife and I. You are wonderful and I thank you for it. But I'm trying to protect you from yourself, so. | 01:43:33 | |
Yeah, I I would say let's look at this and the cost, let's take it to council and let's make sure that it's an all in cost for | 01:43:43 | |
staffing and everything else that's required and if we can't. | 01:43:49 | |
Make that happen, then that's a conversation we have to have. | 01:43:54 | |
We also talked about hiring a coordinator, if you remember. | 01:43:59 | |
Umm, yeah. You're going to be very pregnant, just to remind you. I know. That's the other thing is like how much you can be able | 01:44:03 | |
to take on, because I do want to be involved because I'm super excited about it. But yeah, I do know that. I don't want to | 01:44:09 | |
overwhelm myself because that would lead to any a little bit of disorganization, which none of us want. But I do know that we | 01:44:14 | |
could probably utilize the local's. | 01:44:19 | |
What are their names? I wouldn't say sound engineers. Maybe they are sound engineers, but the people that do that job that I have | 01:44:26 | |
worked with personally, they might be interested in doing that. Like if they are local, which I believe we have two sets that are | 01:44:31 | |
local. So maybe that's something that they would be really interested in doing because then they can organize it and be the sound | 01:44:36 | |
people that are there that night. And that's a really good combination to have in somebody. And it is that simple, like we're not | 01:44:42 | |
trying to go. | 01:44:47 | |
As hard as the Chamber did with serving alcohol and all that. So it is a lot simpler than previous. And I think we talked about it | 01:44:53 | |
going from 4:00 to 6:00. So four to six, OK, Yeah, My bad. Four to six, yeah. | 01:44:59 | |
And and also with that like I. | 01:45:05 | |
I can definitely be part of, but yeah, I know I can't have it all on me, so hopefully we can figure that out. | 01:45:38 | |
And do you think we haven't met as a committee and David's been out, but do you think, to Mr. Almost point, do you think perhaps a | 01:45:46 | |
concert in September? | 01:45:52 | |
Where it's Indian summer. | 01:45:58 | |
Would be fun or acceptable. | 01:46:00 | |
I think so. I I when we were originally talking, I mean, that sounded nice to me, but at this point, I know I can't. | 01:46:03 | |
Request any new dates, considering how long this took, I don't think, but maybe for next year. I think this year we'll keep it | 01:46:10 | |
small. Hopefully we get approved for the dates that we do have and then next year maybe we can add on a month. | 01:46:15 | |
Sounds great. Thank you. | 01:46:22 | |
Questions. Comments. | 01:46:25 | |
Yeah. All right. Well, thank you. Thank you for your effort on this and. | 01:46:27 | |
Lastly, the one other question is as this goes before. | 01:46:31 | |
You know the very approval, various approvals that are necessary. Do we have a plan on? | 01:46:35 | |
Representation. | 01:46:39 | |
At the upcoming meetings. | 01:46:41 | |
Anyone from the subcommittee going to attend. | 01:46:45 | |
Planning Commission. | 01:46:50 | |
It's at 6:00. | 01:46:54 | |
You can join in remotely also. | 01:46:56 | |
I I can, if you're thinking Robin of I can. | 01:46:59 | |
Give you the agenda so you'll kind of know a time frame so you're not just sitting there, OK. | 01:47:04 | |
All right, so. | 01:47:20 | |
That didn't brings us to the the final. | 01:47:23 | |
Ongoing business, we're going to go ahead and make sure that we list out items. | 01:47:28 | |
From commissioners that have been recommended. | 01:47:33 | |
For the agenda on this list, Commissioner Gibbs raised a good point of making sure that's included here, so we'll go forward with. | 01:47:36 | |
Including those that are. | 01:47:44 | |
Upcoming. | 01:47:46 | |
A reminder to everyone if you have recommendations for the upcoming agenda. | 01:47:48 | |
Please provide those to us prior to this upcoming Tuesday. | 01:47:52 | |
And I'll be meeting with. | 01:47:57 | |
Mr. Jacobs and city staff to walk through. | 01:47:58 | |
Plans for the meetings. | 01:48:02 | |
Upcoming meeting. | 01:48:03 | |
And that wraps it up for us. So I please, if you are available to join the chamber over at Trotters next door, that would be | 01:48:07 | |
fantastic. Otherwise, have a wonderful evening. | 01:48:12 | |
And thank you for joining us. | 01:48:18 |
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All right. It is 4:00. So I'm going to go ahead and call this meeting of the Pacific Grove Economic Development. | 00:00:00 | |
Commission to Order. | 00:00:06 | |
And as we always do, just a quick reminder to everyone if you make a motion for seconded, please state your name so there's be we | 00:00:10 | |
can keep track of that for notes. | 00:00:15 | |
Let's go ahead and start with roll call. | 00:00:20 | |
And actually before before we begin. Also I did receive a. | 00:00:26 | |
Message from Commissioner Marquis that he will be pressed. | 00:00:30 | |
Oh, OK. | 00:00:33 | |
He didn't want to join like last night. No. Yes. Here's another. | 00:00:35 | |
OK, I'll do the rule upon them, Commissioner Gibbs. | 00:00:44 | |
Present Commissioner Venuti. | 00:00:49 | |
Present Vice Chair Jacobs. | 00:00:52 | |
Chair upman present. | 00:00:55 | |
Jenny McMahon. | 00:00:58 | |
Commissioner. | 00:01:01 | |
And Commissioner Hoops. | 00:01:03 | |
Here so we have everyone present except for. | 00:01:05 | |
You know and do approval of the agenda. The agenda and supporting documents in the packet were circulated in advance. Today's | 00:01:11 | |
meeting are available for download on the EDC page, pacificgrove.org. Are there any members of the public that would like to make | 00:01:16 | |
a comment on today's agenda? | 00:01:21 | |
Seeing none so. | 00:01:31 | |
Go ahead and move forward with any. | 00:01:34 | |
Comments or questions from? | 00:01:37 | |
Commissioner members. | 00:01:40 | |
Yes. | 00:01:42 | |
All right. You're you're still wondering? | 00:01:47 | |
I have requested that we do some kind of a staff update, yes. | 00:01:51 | |
Will you address that? I will. So regarding the staff update, what we'll do in terms of. | 00:01:56 | |
The structure of these meetings make a small change to the approach. The staff updates won't be in as an agenda item, they'll be | 00:02:03 | |
part of staff. | 00:02:07 | |
So moving forward, that is the plan. We've discussed that. | 00:02:13 | |
And so this app will provide that. | 00:02:16 | |
During the beginning portion, OK, Specifically I wanted to report public report. | 00:02:19 | |
Some of the vacancies down in town, wherever, so that we are aware because I find people ask me, I'm on the EDC and I have no | 00:02:27 | |
clue. So I want to be informed. | 00:02:32 | |
Secondly, as well, there was a request for Commissioner Gibbs regarding this. | 00:02:38 | |
Business update as well. So all of that collectively. | 00:02:43 | |
We've determined it's it's best to come from city staff because they have all the most part. | 00:02:47 | |
So. | 00:02:52 | |
Yes, and I had also requested that we consider. | 00:02:55 | |
Encouraging businesses to use the comment period, the three minute comment period. | 00:02:58 | |
To give us some insight as to how they're doing. | 00:03:03 | |
That they have an audience. We want to hear it. | 00:03:06 | |
How can we help? What are your challenges? | 00:03:09 | |
And I was hoping we could invite them through an e-mail maybe that Jenny could help us with. | 00:03:12 | |
OK. Yeah, that's certainly something. Yeah. Thank you. | 00:03:18 | |
OK. So any, any further? | 00:03:22 | |
Just reviewing the agenda right now, is there any further comments or questions on the agenda before we approve that? Yeah, Yeah, | 00:03:25 | |
Yeah. So about the agenda, the. | 00:03:29 | |
Maybe it's a broader comment, but the both the mayor and the Planning Commission. | 00:03:35 | |
Create a work plan. It ends upon the agenda, and work plan is future items that will be on the agenda itself. | 00:03:40 | |
And I think, to his credit, the chair asked for. | 00:03:46 | |
Since we don't have that discussion necessarily, then. | 00:03:50 | |
We have a chance to submit with those agenda items would be. | 00:03:53 | |
And I don't see it here. So I would suggest and we can talk about this at the end, be great to have the work plan made-up of | 00:03:58 | |
everybody's suggestions. | 00:04:01 | |
As an agenda item that we can discuss. | 00:04:05 | |
At the next session, it's ready to. | 00:04:08 | |
Yeah. Do you think that's possible? I think that we can definitely have that. | 00:04:10 | |
A reminder to everyone as well, that and. | 00:04:16 | |
Which is an update those that weren't present in the last meeting. The intention moving forward is that we have. | 00:04:23 | |
Submissions for agenda items Proposed agenda items. | 00:04:29 | |
Following this meeting prior to following Tuesday, so that way we're able to. | 00:04:32 | |
Vice Chair and I. | 00:04:39 | |
Meet with city staff. Go through everything. | 00:04:41 | |
So did you? I submitted my list. Did you get my list before on the Tuesday, before the Tuesday after the last meeting? Trying to | 00:04:45 | |
remember if we got it before the Tuesday or not. I think you did. I said follow up e-mail. But we did receive, yes. | 00:04:51 | |
OK. Did you get a list from anybody else of agenda items? We yes, we got it. OK, request for specifically, we were just | 00:04:57 | |
discussing. | 00:05:01 | |
And your request for a slower business update, which is again. | 00:05:05 | |
And Commissioner Viniz vanities idea of and we've mentioned before getting some businesses in here using a 3 minute comment | 00:05:09 | |
period. | 00:05:13 | |
To hear from businesses that are new or? | 00:05:16 | |
Have something they would tell their story. Let's do it. Let's get them in here. Thank you. | 00:05:19 | |
OK. Let's go ahead and move forward with approval of the agenda. | 00:05:24 | |
We have a motion to approve the agenda. | 00:05:28 | |
We have a second. | 00:05:32 | |
All right. | 00:05:35 | |
OK, so Commissioner Venuti? | 00:05:38 | |
Commissioner Gibbs. Yes, Vice Chair Jacobs. | 00:05:41 | |
Chair upman. | 00:05:45 | |
Commissioner Richmond and Commissioner Hoops OK the agenda has been approved. Motion pass. | 00:05:48 | |
6 to 0. | 00:05:55 | |
When absent. | 00:05:56 | |
So that moves us on then to Commission and staff announcements. And as I've mentioned, we're altering our format slightly here to | 00:05:59 | |
allow cities to have to provide that brief business update at the beginning of each BC meeting. So that's that's the next. | 00:06:05 | |
And Laurel, if you'd like to provide us with that overview. | 00:06:12 | |
Yeah, I'll give my. | 00:06:16 | |
Commercial business update and then we have city manager here to get the budget update. Wonderful. Thank you as requested. | 00:06:18 | |
OK, so. | 00:06:25 | |
Exciting news, 215 Forest Ave. The Pop and His Retail and Pub is set to open in April 20th, 2024. | 00:06:27 | |
So some of our vacant buildings are starting to. | 00:06:35 | |
Not be Vacant and 511 Lighthouse, the Hops and Fog Nano Group hub is set to open in late May with a pop-up plan for good old days. | 00:06:39 | |
601 Lighthouse The old B of A building was under construction for tenant improvements, and the owner is willing to attend an EDC | 00:06:49 | |
meeting to give an update on his vision for the place. | 00:06:54 | |
Which is pretty cool. | 00:06:59 | |
And 490 Lighthouse, the old Pier One building is still for lease for the main part, and I have interested people who've been in | 00:07:01 | |
the office, but. | 00:07:05 | |
We haven't secured A tenant yet. | 00:07:10 | |
The Grill at Lovers Point is available in the city's developing RFP, and it will be published on the city website soon. | 00:07:12 | |
And I don't know if everybody knows about Gallery Nila, formerly Junior Flower Truck, opened earlier this year at 665 Lighthouse. | 00:07:20 | |
And there's also art. They actually do painting in there. | 00:07:25 | |
Lighthouse Cinemas has been approved. | 00:07:32 | |
Sell beer and wine and host events. | 00:07:35 | |
318 Grand Ave. Winning Wheels has closed its doors. | 00:07:38 | |
So that's kind of sad. | 00:07:43 | |
And then 708 Lighthouse, the old ice cream shop, has reopened with a new owner that not much has changed. | 00:07:45 | |
And the old Chase building has sold and we have not heard from the owners. Jenny Murdoch has reached out to them. | 00:07:52 | |
And Jenny was going to follow up with a few more updates. | 00:08:01 | |
Sure. | 00:08:04 | |
The what was the your second to last one? I had a comment on it. The old ice cream shop. Oh no, it was actually winning wheels. | 00:08:07 | |
Sorry. The there is actually a new tenant that has a lease award-winning meals. We just don't know who they are yet. It will be a | 00:08:11 | |
bike shop. | 00:08:16 | |
Uh, probably not, because he pretty much did get rid of most of his equipment or put it in storage, unfortunately. | 00:08:21 | |
Did you talk about the old Crema property? | 00:08:29 | |
No, OK. So the whole criminal property was sold? | 00:08:32 | |
Yeah, yeah, across from 481 Lighthouse. Sorry, I should give you the address. | 00:08:37 | |
And the new owner is interested in starting something similar to what was there before, which is nice because that, you know, that | 00:08:42 | |
end will start to get filled back. Yeah. Which is great. They have called a few times and we've talked. Yeah. And then did you | 00:08:47 | |
talk about whimsy? | 00:08:52 | |
I can talk about whimsy. Yeah. There's a new boutique that's going into the old Rockstar Dance space. Rockstar Dance just moved | 00:08:58 | |
next door in the in the new space. It's a boutique called Whimsy that has it's described with vintage charm. Not exactly sure it's | 00:09:05 | |
not a thrift shop. Yeah, yeah, I know it's a it's retail, not resale. | 00:09:12 | |
And then the other one is the Beachcomber Inn is doing, they're doing construction. The daughter took over the business. Yeah. And | 00:09:19 | |
they're doing, they're not really doing a lot. They're just doing some some surface things, the things that they can do right now. | 00:09:25 | |
But they are looking to reopen hopefully by the end of 2025. S that means two hotels I know. Yeah. She was in the office too. | 00:09:31 | |
Yeah. | 00:09:37 | |
So those are those are the rest of them. I think we hit all of them unless you have questions about any. | 00:09:44 | |
That has been annexed by the city. Would you like to answer that one? It's just because it's city, all I can say about the that I | 00:09:52 | |
know it's been annexed by the city and. | 00:09:58 | |
The the owner of the property hasn't indicated what they want to do with it. There is possibly some issues associated with it from | 00:10:05 | |
its former use that would need to be dealt with. | 00:10:13 | |
Excellent. No, it's it's it's not one of those. | 00:10:23 | |
Yes. | 00:10:31 | |
That's not a it's not a commercial zone. | 00:10:33 | |
When we were doing the skate park stuff with this city, we looked at that building and at that time, which was over a year ago at | 00:10:37 | |
this point, they were saying they might be putting. | 00:10:41 | |
Like apartments or something in there. | 00:10:47 | |
But it sounds like I don't feel like that's what is being talked about now, so I don't know. That's interesting. | 00:10:49 | |
It's on if I. | 00:10:55 | |
Chair. It's on the site list I believe, and it was taken off the site list. | 00:10:57 | |
For the HCD, the state housing numbers that we have to meet. | 00:11:01 | |
But Bob, if I could just ask, I heard you say that it was annexed. | 00:11:07 | |
By the city? When? When was the transfer? | 00:11:11 | |
OK. | 00:11:15 | |
And that. | 00:11:17 | |
What you're saying well well, I'm not sure about the ownership change either I I just know the following that it was an annexed by | 00:11:20 | |
the city and there has been. | 00:11:27 | |
No interest that I'm aware of to move forward with anything, largely because they have some issues from its former use that would | 00:11:37 | |
need to be dealt with. | 00:11:43 | |
Before any development took place, has there been an assessment on the cleanup? Not as and not as far as I know. | 00:11:51 | |
And if I could just follow up one other building, it's on the Pick PG website and I was on the person that was sold at least once, | 00:11:59 | |
the Hambrooks Auction building. Where does that stand? | 00:12:04 | |
Is it for sale again? | 00:12:09 | |
It's on the Pick PG website. It is. It's currently for sale again, yes, because the owners sold it. And then. | 00:12:12 | |
OK, yes. | 00:12:18 | |
What's the price? It's 2.9 million. | 00:12:21 | |
I'd have to look on the Pick PG website. I know I put it on there, I'm not sure. | 00:12:24 | |
Now we'll have the city manager give his budget update. | 00:12:34 | |
Thank you, Mr. Chair, Members of the of the Commission. | 00:12:39 | |
The budget remains pretty much as it was the last time I reported to you the entire. | 00:12:44 | |
EDC budget amounts to 369,815 dollars. | 00:12:54 | |
A large part of that is obviously with the. | 00:12:59 | |
Monterey. | 00:13:06 | |
Bay the hotel. | 00:13:08 | |
Association and that's. | 00:13:12 | |
Right. It's 164,125. | 00:13:14 | |
The the the EDC itself has a contribution earmarked in the budget for 39,900. Out of that, you've spent $20,000 in terms of the. | 00:13:20 | |
Two grants that you've given out to the two businesses. You've also allocated an additional if your last meeting. An additional | 00:13:35 | |
$10,000 goes to the QR program. | 00:13:42 | |
That is still in the development stage. | 00:13:49 | |
And so that leaves in that line item about $9900. | 00:13:54 | |
The other that is. | 00:14:00 | |
Related is is the Facade grant program which is at. | 00:14:03 | |
$25,000. | 00:14:10 | |
There has been one. | 00:14:14 | |
Grant Ream or Grant reimbursement at $5000. | 00:14:15 | |
That's been approved and there's two pending. | 00:14:22 | |
So that's basically the status report at this time. The other thing I wanted to also mention, I'm certainly available for | 00:14:27 | |
questions regarding that, but the other thing I I wanted to mention was that some of you may have seen a week ago the City Council | 00:14:34 | |
did its. | 00:14:41 | |
Budget workshop. There was a review of the four major priorities and milestones contained on that. | 00:14:49 | |
List and I was going to offer that I would be willing to. | 00:15:00 | |
If the. | 00:15:07 | |
EDC would like to make a presentation regarding the. | 00:15:08 | |
Abbreviated form of that presentation. I don't want to take two hours, and I'm sure you don't either, but in a presentation to | 00:15:13 | |
update you as to what the council's goals remain, and. | 00:15:19 | |
What they are looking to achieve? | 00:15:26 | |
And finally, in your last meeting, you did also recommend that the budget, the contribution line item be increased from 39,900 to | 00:15:31 | |
50,000. | 00:15:38 | |
And I will carry that recommendation as part of the city manager's. | 00:15:46 | |
Budget through to the City Council. | 00:15:52 | |
When it's presented in April. Thank you. | 00:15:55 | |
Is there anything further that's required of us? | 00:15:58 | |
You know, I would say that it's always important to be communicating when you can with the Council, so during those budget | 00:16:01 | |
deliberations of a member of. | 00:16:08 | |
Your Commission may want to be present. | 00:16:16 | |
And. | 00:16:18 | |
To answer any questions that the Council may have and your reasons for. | 00:16:20 | |
Requesting the the increase. | 00:16:26 | |
But yeah, if I could just request. | 00:16:29 | |
Well, would you be able to enough? Just let us know when those are coming so that we're not, yeah, caught off guard? | 00:16:32 | |
Thank you. | 00:16:38 | |
Yeah, I just was wondering, we unanimously. | 00:16:42 | |
Wanted to propose a grant writing or a full time EDC member staff. Is is Can I just find out where that has gone? | 00:16:47 | |
It was the suggestion was made by your council member liaison Chaps Paduri and. | 00:16:58 | |
All of the Council's suggestions will be a reviewed as a part of the budget process. | 00:17:07 | |
So at this point. | 00:17:13 | |
We'll seriously review that suggestion and ultimately make a recommendation. | 00:17:17 | |
As a part of the overall budget presentation to the Council. | 00:17:25 | |
Thank you. If I may, I just would ask as well. I know that there has been conversation. | 00:17:30 | |
Around budget and regard. | 00:17:37 | |
The current contract with Agent DL. | 00:17:39 | |
And so if you provide any further information, not that I think that. | 00:17:42 | |
The services that are provided. | 00:17:47 | |
To the city for support. | 00:17:50 | |
Are also aligned with what a potential. | 00:17:55 | |
Extended role of economic development. | 00:18:01 | |
Position within the city staff. | 00:18:06 | |
Might be able to. | 00:18:08 | |
So I think it would be important to if we are. | 00:18:11 | |
Discussing the contract that we. | 00:18:15 | |
Look to see if that is an additional reason for justifying. | 00:18:19 | |
That city staff role. | 00:18:23 | |
We will. | 00:18:26 | |
No, not to support the contract, but in lieu of. | 00:18:29 | |
So you're saying that that if we're not going to extend HDL, it puts more pressure on the grant writing position. It makes the, | 00:18:33 | |
you know, the current? | 00:18:37 | |
Part time position. | 00:18:42 | |
Even higher, it's a higher tax on right position because. | 00:18:44 | |
Yeah, I'd, I'd agree with that. I just wanted to make sure that was. | 00:18:48 | |
Mr. Chair, if I could just. | 00:18:54 | |
I also want to announce that the handbook. | 00:18:57 | |
For committees and commissions. | 00:19:04 | |
Is going to be finally reviewed by the Council at their next meeting. | 00:19:06 | |
And it will be approved. | 00:19:11 | |
I expect that there will be a training session might be good for all Commission members that are interested to participate in | 00:19:14 | |
that. | 00:19:19 | |
Probably will take place in April, as soon as the final handbook. | 00:19:25 | |
Is approved uh. | 00:19:30 | |
Both myself and the city attorney will be moving forward. | 00:19:32 | |
On developing that training. | 00:19:37 | |
Thank you very much. | 00:19:40 | |
The question has come up in the past from Commissioner Gibbs, and so I do want to carry this question forward. | 00:19:43 | |
Expect to more information there has been. | 00:19:48 | |
A conversation about a. | 00:19:51 | |
A Commission meeting? I don't recall what the name it was. | 00:19:54 | |
Right this. | 00:19:59 | |
Are you up to date? OK? | 00:20:02 | |
Share the workflow. | 00:20:03 | |
Good. | 00:20:10 | |
OK, All right, wonderful. Anything further from city staff for updates? | 00:20:11 | |
Thank you. | 00:20:17 | |
Questions. Sure. Any questions? Sure. Can I just remind the chair, we do have a guest speaker here, so. | 00:20:20 | |
That first. | 00:20:30 | |
Well, let's go ahead. Yeah, let's let's Commission and stop announcements. | 00:20:33 | |
On the staff, that's what about the budget? | 00:20:38 | |
So just I I happen to be at the budget meeting. | 00:20:42 | |
Most imagine knows that I was there and I also thought of and asked questions about the economic development. | 00:20:46 | |
Budget, not admission, but the budget is full. As most of you probably know, the city projected city budget for the next year is | 00:20:54 | |
$32 million. | 00:20:58 | |
We have a reserve on top of that. On top of the reserve we have about a $2.6 million. | 00:21:02 | |
It's looked in other words and then it's about accounted for, but it's sitting. | 00:21:08 | |
When they reviewed the budget by some of the city, budgets are going up the attorneys budget. | 00:21:12 | |
Is going from, I don't know, four and a half million to over $1,000,000 anticipating I'm guessing. | 00:21:17 | |
Some actions that the City Council discussed last night. | 00:21:23 | |
I also observed that in that flow there perhaps could be some more money for the economic development of the city. | 00:21:28 | |
Right now we are at about one one point 1%. | 00:21:35 | |
That is the total technology development budget that Bob mentioned for the city, so about 1.11.2, something like that. | 00:21:40 | |
And I did a little bit of research before I went to the City Council meeting and a lot of cities are sizing a little bit larger. | 00:21:49 | |
They they're around 2 to 3% they allocate. | 00:21:53 | |
2 to 3% of their budget for economic development, including sea monitoring, those kind of things, staff and all that kind of | 00:21:58 | |
stuff. | 00:22:01 | |
And so I I said to the to the Council that the Council should budget. | 00:22:05 | |
An additional at least, you know, half a percent, we're talking $190,000. | 00:22:09 | |
For economic. | 00:22:13 | |
A chunk of that devoted to some of the line items. | 00:22:16 | |
That are on the recovery plan. | 00:22:19 | |
Right. The music, the QR code and that sort of. | 00:22:22 | |
And the only comment they really can't comment. But Mr. Clady Councilman Lady did say perhaps that some of the HDL. | 00:22:25 | |
Would go to that. I don't know how much is left because HDL also supplies services and business closes. | 00:22:32 | |
For the big stop. | 00:22:38 | |
So, so that request was made. The decisions have not been made by the City Council. So my last comment is if anybody out there or | 00:22:41 | |
anybody on the Commission and certainly as a private citizen, write a letter to council. | 00:22:47 | |
Suggestion. | 00:22:53 | |
The amount. | 00:22:55 | |
Because we have a $2.6 million overlayship. | 00:22:57 | |
And economic development needs to be a prior. | 00:23:01 | |
So additional 100,190 thousand dollars is about a half a percent. | 00:23:04 | |
Thank you, Chair. Thank you for that. | 00:23:10 | |
All right, Councillor Liaison's. | 00:23:14 | |
Councilman Drury let us know that he was going to be able to attend today, so we'll move past. | 00:23:18 | |
His announcements. | 00:23:23 | |
That opens us to general public comment. | 00:23:25 | |
I think someone from the Commission had one announcement. | 00:23:27 | |
Go ahead, sorry. | 00:23:31 | |
Just real quick. Captain Stoker is doing their birthday bash. Thanks. We're not doing. We're not doing it. Sorry, did I skip over? | 00:23:34 | |
I did by my mistake. | 00:23:39 | |
OK. Please continue. | 00:23:45 | |
The vendor application for any small businesses or local Craftsman or even musicians or food vendors. Drink vendors That's open | 00:23:49 | |