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And before we, we're going to call the meeting to order, but before we go any further into the agenda, etc. 00:00:02
Commissioner Markowitz, I'm going to address you and if you can, please. 00:00:09
Recognize. 00:00:14
Attending remotely and state your. 00:00:16
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I hope everybody can hear me. I hope you can. 00:00:21
I am recovering from a medical disability, which is one of the four just causes which allow me to attend and participate on this 00:00:26
meeting on Zoom. It's a surgical recovery. 00:00:33
And no. 00:00:41
Below the age of 18 is with me in the room right now and those are the things I have to tell you. And this has been vetted and 00:00:42
gone through staff protocol and it's under AB2449. There are four reasons and one of the just causes is surgical disability and 00:00:49
that's what I have. Thank you very much. 00:00:55
Thank you. And thank you for joining us remotely. We appreciate it. You're welcome. 00:01:03
That takes us to roll call. 00:01:09
So in Commissioner. 00:01:12
Mcmurdo's absence Laurel has volunteered to serve as secretary, and if you wouldn't mind taking roll call, please. Yes, chairman. 00:01:16
Present. Vice Chair Jacobs. Present. 00:01:25
Commissioner. 00:01:28
Richmond here present Commissioner Hoops. 00:01:31
Commissioner Gibbs here and Commissioner Markowitz. 00:01:35
Thank you. So we have six members present for voting, 1 absent and our secretary is. 00:01:41
Absent also. 00:01:48
That takes us to approval of the agenda. 00:01:52
The agenda and supporting documents of the packet were circulated in advance of today's meeting. Are there any members of the 00:01:55
public that would like to make a comment on today's agenda? 00:01:59
Seen, I just seen. 00:02:06
OK. Any. 00:02:11
Any comments on the agenda? 00:02:15
Members of the EDD. 00:02:18
Just one comment the the item about from the last meeting. 00:02:21
There's an action item without detail about the Pick PG website, so I'm just wondering. 00:02:28
If there's been any update or if there's any report because there's nothing on the action. 00:02:33
Agenda and we did get a report about things that have been done and I don't see. 00:02:39
In the. 00:02:44
OK. I was not at the last meeting. I'm not sure why they weren't in the minutes and we're going, we met today it and myself and 00:02:48
the city manager and we're going to give an update at the March meeting on the Pick PG website. Paul, our it's been working. 00:02:56
On fixing a lot of the problems that Kelsey found and it's been he's been working hard and it's been great, but we still feel like 00:03:04
we have some more things to update before we bring it back to you. 00:03:10
Can we have a quick roll call vote to approve the agenda for today? 00:03:18
Did we have a motion? 00:03:25
Oh, sorry to have a motion to approve the Janet. Thank you. My apologies. 00:03:27
Agenda. 00:03:32
2nd. 00:03:34
OK, so recall is Commissioner Ho. 00:03:38
Commissioner. 00:03:43
Here or I, you said roll call. 00:03:46
I was like, wait. 00:03:50
Hi, Chair Upman, Vice Chair Jacobs. Commissioner Gibbs. Yes, Commissioner. 00:03:52
I saw his mouth go OK, so motion passes to approve the agenda as is. 00:04:00
To 1 absent Thank you, Thank you. 00:04:06
That takes us to Commission and staff announcements. Are there any announcements from the commissioners present or city staff? 00:04:09
I just have a small one. I brought this up last year. 00:04:18
Captain and Stoker we have. 00:04:22
Birthday festival thing going on in July where we have a bunch of local vendors come and sell their goods which is like a full day 00:04:25
of fun just supporting local small business and that also includes we've got live music and food and drink and everything. I just 00:04:32
want to let everyone know that does have a small business or friends with small businesses that we're going to be opening up 00:04:40
vendor applications in February. So might come out mid to late February, but I just want to let everyone know that that is coming. 00:04:47
And again, it's going to be in July in Monterey, so. 00:04:55
That's it. Thank you. 00:04:58
Any other? 00:05:01
Jacobs Yeah, two things actually. One of them is that I said that I would update people on the Arts District and. 00:05:03
I didn't check to see that it's there, but I did ask for the Arts District map to be they don't see it in there, but I did. Yeah, 00:05:11
you will see it I guess for the next time, then the map is finished and being distributed. 00:05:18
And the website is up and kind of slowly. 00:05:26
You know background information useful for the for the map and. 00:05:31
The the board. 00:05:37
I don't know if you remember from when we set it up, we specifically didn't want to be top heavy and have us. 00:05:40
Directing everything. We wanted to facilitate artists doing projects, and I'm delighted to say that a group of local artists have 00:05:47
got several projects that they'd like to do. One is to have. 00:05:52
Well, we had a joint thing with the BID and the Arts District last year to do the Chalk the Block event in June. That's going to 00:05:57
be on May the 18th this year and. 00:06:03
There's a huge expression of interest. I think it's going to be a big Pacific Grove event and the artists want to to have the week 00:06:10
following that to be art week where the businesses in the the arts District on the map, you know the the ones shown on the map 00:06:17
will have resident artists and we hope to generate some interest in. 00:06:24
Walking around, frequenting the businesses you know, getting to know. 00:06:34
Some local inspiring artists and anyway that that's all in planning stages and I, so I just wanted to update you on that. There's 00:06:38
a lot of other things to say, but this is just brief announcements, announcements. 00:06:43
The second thing is about the park. That's the subcommittee, the Council Subcommittee on Park that's met last Friday and invited 3 00:06:49
shareholders along. That would be. 00:06:55
Victorian Corner, Rudolph's Cafe and My Business Wild Fish and. 00:07:01
We we heard what they plan to propose to the Council and. 00:07:08
You know this, there's a lot of pros and some cons. I think to the project, you know, it's it's a really interesting fraud. We're 00:07:14
not averse to change or anything. 00:07:19
But there are some. 00:07:25
Pros and cons? And I felt that since the EDC did take a stand recommending it. 00:07:28
Might want to look at some of the details of the apartment proposal. I mean for instance I think. 00:07:35
One of the criticisms of the previous one that the city staff had made that it was under specified and unfortunately what I'm 00:07:42
seeing in this plan is that like there's just no specifications at all, so it's not even under specified. It's just so we might 00:07:47
want. 00:07:53
Look at this just to see you know how it's going to help business and. 00:08:00
It has impact on the music. 00:08:06
You know, so things that we know are contributing to the vibrance of downtown. So I just. 00:08:08
Think that it's worth the EDC looking at it and kind of with our optic of of you know. 00:08:17
Vitality and and business in town, so. 00:08:23
Those are my 2 announcements. I guess I can propose it for the agenda. 00:08:27
That's what's happening. 00:08:33
Further comments before we move on, Commissioner. 00:08:36
Thank this, Chairman. Just a couple things real quick. The there's a local group called Leadership Pacific Grove and they have 00:08:40
been, they're in civic engagement and education. 00:08:46
Around candidates, it's a nonpartisan group, so they don't advocate for one candidate over another. 00:08:52
And issues like housing and water and and downtown development, that sort of thing. 00:08:57
So there have been two sessions already pretty well attending the first session. 00:09:03
January 16th was held here in Pacific Gro. 00:09:08
With Kate Daniels, candidate for District 5. 00:09:12
Monterey County Supervisor and then last Tuesday on the thir. 00:09:16
We had Umm. 00:09:20
Bruce Delight and Alan Huffa, the other two candidates, major candidates for District 5 and we were in a sort of a town hall forum 00:09:22
where everybody sat at tables and there was a lot of interchange and exchange between. 00:09:29
Other candidates. Everybody seemed to think it was pretty informative. 00:09:36
It was civil, but we got down to some pretty interesting issues around housing and downtown development and the cost of doing 00:09:41
business in Monterey County. 00:09:45
So there's that. And then I see the mayor in attendance here. Welcome, Mayor. 00:09:49
And the mayor made a fine address last night at. 00:09:55
I guess it was a normal City Council time slot and you said you were going to go 40 minutes. I timed you, you went 42, I think, 00:09:59
But that's OK That's more like 'cause I got up and took us all that time. But a couple of things that were interesting to me and 00:10:05
certainly the Americans speak for himself, but I think I heard him say that the progress is being made on identifying the city 00:10:10
manager and hopefully somebody will be in place by. 00:10:16
May I think, Mr. Mayor, you said something like that. 00:10:22
That the. 00:10:27
Liz already mentioned the Apocalypse I think is going to be coming forward. 00:10:28
The ATC I think is up in front of the Coastal Commission. I didn't see it on the. 00:10:33
Agenda for this month nor couldn't tell from March, but March or April. 00:10:38
Perhaps the appeal of that that situation is going to be coming up in the next two to three months. So I think that that's a major 00:10:43
interest to people to see that get going again. 00:10:48
And the only thing I'd say about the the address last night, it was great. I wish there had been more emphasis on economic 00:10:53
development. 00:10:57
Supporting businesses, making this as much a business friendly city as we possibly can. Maybe the City Council can place a little 00:11:01
bit more emphasis on business development. 00:11:06
And bringing new business and small business and entrepreneurs into a Pacific Grove. 00:11:11
And I did get up and suggest in the address last night when there was public comment that perhaps a public private partnership 00:11:17
would be a great idea. You know, the budget is going to be very difficult, but why not raise private money? 00:11:24
To fund some of the projects that need to get done here in Pacific Grove. 00:11:31
And we have access to a couple of investors who we've talked to and they'd be willing to kick in. 00:11:36
And get it going. Maybe it's seed fund to try out a small project. 00:11:42
And create a conversation among businesses and the two business districts about what they'd like to see happen and how we can 00:11:46
support them. So anyway, I think I'd like to see a little bit more emphasis on that and and we'll be talking about that more, I'm 00:11:51
pretty sure. So thank you. 00:11:57
Any further comments before moving on? 00:12:03
I'm going to add 1 very briefly, I just want to acknowledge that Commissioner McMurdo is currently volunteering for the AT&T 00:12:08
Shuttle with the PG Chamber and we thank her for her time and service doing that that. 00:12:14
Does stimulate the economy here in Pacific Grove bringing. 00:12:20
The visitors that are in town for the. 00:12:23
To right downtown Pacific Grove, both departing and returning So. 00:12:27
Appreciate her time and efforts. 00:12:34
OK. That then takes this to council liaison announcements. 00:12:37
I don't have any announcements. Thank you. Thank you. 00:12:41
Great. General public comment. Are there any members of the public that would like to comment at this time? 00:12:43
None. 00:12:51
OK, lastly. 00:12:54
Approval of the. 00:12:56
Looks like we did have a bit of feedback on the minutes, but. 00:12:58
And that's where circulated prior to this meeting. Are there any questions on the minutes? 00:13:02
Beyond, Commissioner Gibbs, your your feedback. 00:13:07
OK, so let's go ahead and. 00:13:13
Do a roll call vote on approval of the. 00:13:16
Chairman. 00:13:20
Vice Chair Jacobs, Commissioner. 00:13:23
Yes, Commissioner, Mark. 00:13:27
Commissioner Richmond and Commissioner Hoops Minutes are approved, 621 being absent. Thank you. Thank you. 00:13:31
All right, let's move on to the regular agenda. The first item of business is election of officers after this every year. 00:13:41
And I'd like to open the floor for Officer nominations. Let's start with Chair. 00:13:48
Are there any nominations for the role of? 00:13:54
I'd like to nominate Eric Upman to continue to be our chair. 00:13:58
Thank you. Do we have a second second? 00:14:03
Thank you. 00:14:05
Any other nominations? 00:14:07
See. None. OK, All right, well. 00:14:12
Let's do a quick. 00:14:16
Roll call. 00:14:17
Vice chair. 00:14:20
Jacobs I Commissioner, Hoops commissioner, Richmond Commissioner, Gibbs. 00:14:21
Yes, and then, Commissioner. 00:14:29
OK, motion passes. Chair Upman will remain our chair for the year 6 to 0 and one absent. Thanks. 00:14:34
Thank you all. Moving on to VICE. 00:14:42
Do we have any nominations for Vice Chair? 00:14:46
I will say I'll nominate Miss Jacobs over here. I think she's. 00:14:50
Wonderful. I'll second. 00:14:55
Any further nominations? 00:14:58
OK. Let's go ahead and do a roll call vote for that. 00:15:01
Commissioner Richmond. 00:15:06
Hi, Chair Upman. 00:15:07
Commissioner Gibbs, yes. 00:15:10
Vice Chair Jacobs. Yes, Commissioner Mark. 00:15:12
And Commissioner. 00:15:17
Motion passes. Vice chair will remain. 00:15:20
Elizabeth Jacobs for the year 6 to 0 to one. Thanks. And just for the. 00:15:23
Going through the motions here. 00:15:30
Secretary. 00:15:33
I will. 00:15:35
Commission Rick Murdoch to continue in Secretary we have a. 00:15:37
Seconded, we can do a quick vote. 00:15:41
Chair. 00:15:46
Aye, Commissioner. 00:15:47
Commissioner Richmond. 00:15:50
Vice Chair Jacobs. 00:15:53
Aye, Commissioner Gibbs, yes. And Commissioner Markowitz. 00:15:54
OK, so our secretary will remain Jenny McMurdo. She's doing a great job. 00:15:59
The vote was six to zero to 1. 00:16:05
OK, wonderful. 00:16:07
So back to normal order of business. 00:16:10
Next up on the agenda regular agenda is the Small Business Recovery Action Plan Subcommittee. 00:16:14
And Commissioner Jacobs, you? 00:16:20
An update. My understanding here is that our goal is to walk away with priorities based off of the list that was reviewed the 00:16:23
previous session. 00:16:28
Yeah. Yeah. So we did start this last time and the context here is that in November 2022, so already, you know, getting on to a 00:16:33
year and a half ago. 00:16:39
HDL presented this to the EDC. I wasn't even on it. I happened to be at that meeting though, and. 00:16:48
It was well received and they were told to go away and fine tune it and they came back last. 00:16:55
Spring, End of spring, I guess last year, again, it was well received, but there were some comments about how it didn't seem to be 00:17:02
completely appropriate for our town and the way that we know our town and they're not from our town. So we needed to tweak it to 00:17:08
be more. 00:17:13
Appropriate for our local context. 00:17:19
So then the subcommittee formed with Mike and Kelsey and myself, and we met. 00:17:22
Two or three times. 00:17:28
Twice. 00:17:33
Discussed it at length. We had brainstorming, we had wide-ranging discussions and then we, you know, had more critical 00:17:34
discussions. Narrowing it back and trying to really think about what would be appropriate for our context. So this these are the 00:17:40
notes that we all agreed on in the end. 00:17:46
I think you've had a chance to look at it. We certainly introduced it last meeting last month, but I. 00:17:53
I let me just ask. 00:18:01
Do you want to go through this together or is scanning it enough for you? 00:18:05
Because we I'm happy. If it's going to refresh your memory and bring it all into focus, we could just go through the list. 00:18:13
No, that's a point of order we do it is in the packet. Is it possible to get it up? 00:18:18
On the screen, so everybody who? 00:18:25
With us online can. 00:18:28
I think we ended up last time. Do we? 00:18:31
OK. Thanks. 00:18:34
I guess maybe one more point and since I've given you the history in the context. 00:18:37
The last year it was brought to council twice as an agenda item and each time pushed off the agenda, so I think that is why the 00:18:44
subcommittee then formed. 00:18:49
Last summer because we wanted to make sure that we could present it personally and we could. 00:18:55
You know, really give it a an endorsement from. 00:19:01
The whole, the whole Commission, So. 00:19:05
Let's just look at it. 00:19:10
Find out what the Commission thinks. So before we get into discussion, yeah, why don't we open it up? Is there any comments from 00:19:12
the public? And then get into commissioner discussion. 00:19:17
Perfect. OK. So before moving forward. 00:19:22
Is there any feedback or comments from the public? 00:19:26
Open it up for discussion saying none. 00:19:29
And he So. 00:19:32
My take away from this is that it's it's twofold. One is to prioritize the items that we have before us. The 2nd is to identify a 00:19:37
budget requirements to be able to support that correct? And I was absent. I should just. 00:19:42
For the record, I was absent at the. 00:19:49
EDC meeting so but. 00:19:51
That those are the two takeaways that we're looking for today. Yeah, it's it's all. 00:19:54
You know, everything is about budget, so yes. 00:20:00
So there's. 00:20:05
One way that Commissioner Hoops framed this was what's going to have the largest ROI. 00:20:07
A return on investment. So he made the point last time that action item number one. 00:20:13
Has to kind. 00:20:20
Take precedence over everything else because that's actually a position that could earn, you know, 1/4 of a million, half 00:20:23
$1,000,000 per year if it were. 00:20:28
UM enacted on you know it put into place so and that is have a full time EDC staff member for grant writing is primarily liaising 00:20:33
with business interest groups and so on. 00:20:39
Jenny at the Chamber mentioned it would be awfully nice to not have to wait for the Wednesday to talk to the business liaison 00:20:45
person, but to you know be able to bring up things at anytime. So I think when this this was also actually presented in a summer 00:20:53
as an agenda item, separate agenda item just because looking around at other cities. 00:21:00
They, you know, city our size would typically have two. 00:21:09
Full Time members. 00:21:12
Working for an economic development and we have one number, one one day a week. So we feel that that's not. 00:21:14
Really, in the interest of the city? 00:21:25
If if I may. 00:21:27
The proposal in this instance, then, is to have a full. 00:21:31
Staff member. 00:21:35
And I have two questions then. 00:21:36
We have $80,000. 00:21:41
Listed I have. 00:21:43
I believe I heard feedback that. 00:21:46
That figure was provided by. 00:21:49
City or where did that figure? That's just an estimate. No, I think we just looked at average salaries. We did a Google search, so 00:21:52
we would we would likely need. 00:21:57
Clarify that number and confirm that that is, yeah, I mean to be honest, the head of department who is. 00:22:02
Was the head of department that now was Anastasia. 00:22:09
And it OK, I think that's a job for that department if I'm not mistaken, is that right? 00:22:12
To to, you know. 00:22:21
Fine tune the logistics of it. 00:22:22
To make, you know, to really make the proposal, we're just saying there's a real need. So yeah, you know, we just add, we did have 00:22:25
some discussion. 00:22:29
And as an option, knowing that budget is coming up in front of City Council to have a little bit of flexibility. 00:22:34
We did talk to a couple of the cities about our size in the Valley. One was Kingsburg, California. 00:22:41
About 14,000 people in King City, and they both had grant writers. However, they were organized and structured differently. What 00:22:50
they had done was particularly the city manager in Kingsburg, a guy named Alex Henderson. I had a chance to talk to him. They 00:22:57
hired one from the outside who was very familiar with raising money for small cities for specific projects, and it wasn't entirely 00:23:05
on a Commission basis that the expectation was. 00:23:12
Was that they would. 00:23:20
Right, the Commission back. 00:23:21
As part of the grant proposals, you can't type. It's not illegal to type 1 to the other, but. 00:23:24
There were some goals set if you raise this much money. 00:23:29
You know, there was some benefits and payouts against that. So, so I I'm OK with it. If it's more of a contract with an outside 00:23:33
firm, you don't have to pay. 00:23:38
Benefits, you don't have to pay, you know, get them into the pension system and all that kind of stuff. They might cost just a tad 00:23:43
more, but I think we have a little bit more flexibility. 00:23:47
Knowing that you know there's gonna we're gonna be fighting for money in the City Council budget. 00:23:52
Right. Is there anyone present that disagrees that this is? 00:23:56
The highest return on investment that we could possibly have out of everything. 00:24:03
In the list that we're going to be reviewing today, I mean it just seems to me that. 00:24:07
This has to be a priority. 00:24:12
Yeah, I think it's simple logic and and very clear. So yeah, I mean my my comment was is that the great writer then is the is the 00:24:18
only thing on this list that actually generates money that for for funding. 00:24:25
All the other you know. 00:24:34
Items 2. 00:24:35
What have you So the, I mean and yes, like there there is a, there is a, there's a cost associated to that person paying a human 00:24:37
to do that but. 00:24:42
That you know, coming out of the academic science background like. 00:24:47
How you live, right? You have to write grants to then pay for your own salary. So it's sort of like. 00:24:52
There's a float there that has to come out of public funding, but essentially is made back from the city or to the city by. 00:24:57
Income of grant so like. 00:25:04
Yeah, there there. 00:25:08
I think it's the only thing that makes sense to be able to accomplish anything is to have a grant writer getting us funding for 00:25:09
economic development, because otherwise we're gonna run out of money quick, OK? 00:25:14
So Laurel, or perhaps chaps. 00:25:20
My question then. 00:25:25
And Commissioner Markowitz. 00:25:27
Address you in just a moment. I apologize, I just only saw your hand. 00:25:29
In terms of of process or something like this if we were to pull this. 00:25:34
And approach council with a recommendation. 00:25:39
How far would we need to go in terms of putting together a proposal for a position or the details, or are we able to just simply 00:25:43
say we we feel that based off of our assessment, this would be an incredibly valuable, valuable position. We'd like to make that 00:25:49
recommendation to council. 00:25:54
I think it makes sense to. First of all, I think it makes sense to not qualify what type. 00:26:02
Resource. This is just say have a resource right you you essentially the ADC just needs a resource. Whether it's full time or a 00:26:10
contract or temporary is none of your concern. You just need the resource and I think that's that's the intent of this from what I 00:26:16
what I can see. I would argue for business services for the city though as well right? Because my understanding is that. 00:26:22
Forgive me, but Laurel, your time is limited to respond. 00:26:29
City requests. You don't have that. 00:26:33
As a full time role, you have other responsibilities. Yeah. I'm a planner also exactly, so it goes beyond just what our 00:26:36
requirements are. It's also the city requirements for its operations. 00:26:41
Correct. So so somebody within the city will assign a resource whether that's or somebody else or a Grand trader could be. 00:26:47
It's. 00:26:55
I think this as it stands, I would just say that you want a resource that is dedicated to grant writing so that they're able to 00:26:57
get the grants and that grant writer could be used for other grants the city wants to. We don't know those like information there. 00:27:04
My, my. 00:27:11
My view is that prioritize this list. 00:27:14
And submitted to council so that the council can have a lean on how those needs to move forward. 00:27:17
Of developing tools. We're going to start the budget process. We're going to be starting pretty soon here, so title wrap the side 00:27:24
of the night so you can actually move forward with next steps. 00:27:30
But my top three I would recommend and you members where the funds are there as those placeholders because it can be less it could 00:27:36
be high. I've also seen cases actually the the last League of California cities conference actually made a brand from where they 00:27:43
where they engage per grant. 00:27:51
So you just pay for the grant. 00:27:58
And they'll let a grand for you. So it's my grand. So various combinations that we're not aware. 00:28:02
But I would say what you need is what you need to send to. 00:28:08
Thank you, Commissioner. 00:28:13
I'm sorry. 00:28:19
Richard Markowitz, You'll need to unmute. There you go. There you go. OK. I just wanted to add that I absolutely agree that number 00:28:25
one on this is the most. 00:28:29
Urgent and fundamental thing. Anything on this list. Everything flows from the top. This is the first thing. 00:28:34
We it gives us a process to take a look at other things we want to do, knowing we have a staff member for grant writing. 00:28:41
Someone we can go to who can put things into words and action that we. 00:28:49
The bunch of us together can sit here and talk about we absolutely need to have a person like this. And I agree with the 00:28:55
sentiments that this number one should be #1. Thank you. 00:29:01
I just want to give a real life example just to like put this all into perspective just as we're we're all in agreeance, but. 00:29:09
With all of our flooding and everything crazy last year, we all know like there were so many power outages and tourism didn't come 00:29:18
back and all this craziness and. 00:29:22
And I was looking for grants as a business and I actually came across like a bigger like grant for cities. And I it was like 00:29:27
millions of dollars for disaster. Like it was loans and grants. There was like two different options. But I was just imagining 00:29:33
like if we had had this person. 00:29:39
If we had done this last year at the same time and would have been able to get that grant, that kind of money could have gone 00:29:47
towards fixing up our power issues and our flooding issues and whatever else might have wreaked habit last year. 00:29:53
And would prevent anything that might be happening soon with that storm on its way. So just a real life example to how important 00:30:00
this is and how it'll just continue to be really important. So I'm pumped about it. 00:30:06
Commissioner Hoops. 00:30:13
I think the question then becomes for us. 00:30:16
Here now currently is that. 00:30:18
Do we want or need to ask Council for anything other than this position? 00:30:20
Given the short timeframe that we have, I think like. 00:30:25
You know, there's a lot on this list and that's of course what we want to like look after and go for, you know, in the coming 00:30:29
months and like given that. 00:30:33
Budgetary planning for Council is. 00:30:36
Very soon and then fiscal year, the city and then our budget resets. I feel like it might be good to have in place, like have a 00:30:39
grant writer in place. 00:30:42
By the time the fiscal year sort of kicks over, we'll renew our budget and then we'll have hopefully some grant money coming in 00:30:47
the next, you know. 00:30:51
Quarter or two after that. So by the end of the year, so midway through our fiscal year and we could really be hitting the ground 00:30:56
running with a lot of these programs in. 00:31:01
Quarter one of 25 I think is probably the best time frame we can realistically hope for, but I think. 00:31:06
Going and asking for maybe two or three of these things might muddy the waters a little bit. That's just my personal opinion. So. 00:31:13
Yeah, I I personally will say that I I appreciate. 00:31:19
Being proactive about our approach in a way where we can effectively cover some of the expenses for some of the other. 00:31:25
Initiatives that we have, I'd much prefer to be able to say that we're able to pay for what we're asking for versus asking for 00:31:34
more funds from City Council. 00:31:38
So I agree completely. 00:31:44
So worse, if I could just ask the person. So worse, we would be assuming if we only submit the grant writer proposal. 00:31:46
And leave the all of the others. 00:31:53
We're assuming, then, that the grant writer will fund everything else on the list. Is that what? 00:31:56
Because once the the budget year starts. 00:32:01
It's going to be hard to go back and go to the well a second time, so we better get it right up front. 00:32:04
And at least have the other items prioritized with some thoughts what the budget might be so when we get to the point of a grant. 00:32:10
We have some idea of what it is we're asking for and how much. 00:32:17
And if I'm with the council, maybe a council member, Pedori could jump in on this. I'd rather. 00:32:20
You know, as details maybe not the right word, but more of a. 00:32:26
Approach. Because we're going to ask them for bread, right? And they're going to go well, OK, good for what? 00:32:31
Well, for whatever we decide, and I think I'd like a little bit more specification than that. 00:32:37
Personally. 00:32:41
Yeah, I mean I think, I think that was you know, like I said items, items on this list, I think we all sort of in the last meeting 00:32:44
kind of were in agreement about, you know, this is good, that's good. Especially the big ticket items were kind of like the ones 00:32:49
we focused on you know. 00:32:53
You know few $1000 here there to do something on that is further down the list is sort of like not what we need to pay attention 00:32:59
to at this time. You know right there $1000 quarterly broker lunch. 00:33:04
That's something that we could sort of do on the fly with the with our EDC budget. It's sort of like the bigger ticket items that. 00:33:10
I agree. Like we need to know what we're asking for, but I think that we can't go. 00:33:17
In the time frame that we have would be very difficult to go to council and say, OK, we want to do you know $100,000 for the 00:33:22
voucher program and we want to do $25,000 for the new poll banners and this and like line out all these things and make them make 00:33:27
sense. So I think like. 00:33:32
The Grant, WR. 00:33:37
Is the 1st and maybe only thing we should ask for with the intention of, you know, projects two through 15 being the ones that 00:33:39
are. 00:33:43
Under the purview of what we want the grant writer to do. 00:33:47
Well, maybe we could just number the. 00:33:51
Items here which we all have deemed to be useful for our town. 00:33:55
Number them in in priority order so that you know for instance getting a trolley to come to Pacific Grove, you know if we said 00:34:01
like that. 00:34:06
Be massive. Let's put that at #2, after the grant writer and. 00:34:11
Music series. 00:34:16
You know, the way it's been designed to promote business. It's not just the regular music series, it's actually a, you know? 00:34:18
You know, there's a sort of a micro level of organization which would be very beneficial for the town, so like this. 00:34:26
You know, we could put these. 00:34:32
Forward, as these are the things that we would use the money on. There's also some beautification things. There's also some. 00:34:34
Yeah. 00:34:43
A lot of programs and you know, things that that would, yeah, that need money, that need budget and that this would provide. 00:34:45
If I may then. 00:34:53
I think we're all in agreement that staff member would be #1. 00:34:55
Would it? 00:34:59
Would we agree that prioritizing our top three to four, in addition to the staff member, would be the next step of this exercise 00:35:01
and we can go through? 00:35:06
And then? 00:35:11
At the very least, we. 00:35:13
Bring the staff member to council and then we can address some of those other. 00:35:15
Items. Yeah, I think I. 00:35:18
Bring, you know, 20 items to council if we just brought a few and said, but if you only need to do one, do that, yeah, 00:35:22
Commissioner Markowitz, you have your hand. 00:35:27
And you'll need to. 00:35:35
Thank you. 00:35:36
The one thing I appreciate people are saying number these and whatever we do, my problem is that during the course of the year and 00:35:39
maybe the next meeting or meeting after, somebody might approach our EDC and say, hey, we have a really good idea for this stuff 00:35:46
and this is something we can act on right now. I don't want to see our Commission. 00:35:53
Limit that say, well, you're not on the list, so we can't talk about that right now. That's a real danger of we have to maintain 00:36:00
some flexibility. I agree the number one, the grant thing is more important. But if we start numbering, prioritizing everything 00:36:06
and that's what everybody expects us to do and that's the way we're going, If somebody comes up with a great idea, three meetings 00:36:11
from now is something we want to do. 00:36:17
We don't want that to be shut out. We should leave our options open to do that. I have no. 00:36:23
Objection to prioritizing these things. I think we can do that within our committee. 00:36:30
And I I think there's a real great danger in shutting anything out. That's all. Thank you. 00:36:35
Yeah. To that point, I think that there's like two things sort of happening concurrently here like this is sort of. 00:36:42
These items that we're looking at are sort of part of the small business recovery plan that we've sort of been talking about for a 00:36:49
while and put together and some ideas there that that we're then fine-tuned to. 00:36:54
More Pacific Grove focused rather than the kind of rubric that was found. 00:36:59
And I like this a. 00:37:05
And I think. 00:37:07
The concurrent side of that is like we have these projects that we're looking at and we've been talking in a concert series for a 00:37:09
long time, which I think is a great idea, but there also remains. 00:37:13
This commissions budget inherently as well, so I think maybe the thing to do then. 00:37:19
Is. 00:37:25
We want a grant writer, and these are the projects that are in front of us on the screen here. These are the projects that we're 00:37:27
going to look to prioritize at a later date. But they exist and there's ballpark this much money. 00:37:33
And also. 00:37:39
You know, if our budget currently is 39,000 or something, maybe we look to ask Council to increase that to 45 or 50. 00:37:40
1000, which is a reasonable increase and then we still have some discretionary things as Commissioner Markowitz pointed out that 00:37:48
if there is a good idea that pops up. 00:37:52
We can act. 00:37:57
Independently as a. 00:37:58
At this level, rather than in the council level or a grant, I'm waiting on a grant for whatever thing pops up. 00:38:00
So I think that's like there's sort of two things, two trains running on a similar track here. 00:38:06
Yeah, A real life example of that is that I popped in to see the Do you remember last year Sherry from Pickings Antiques came and 00:38:13
said she'd like to propose an antique district. 00:38:18
I said, look, I've got all the files you can use, everything I've made you know to to do an arts, an antique quarter or something, 00:38:25
and. 00:38:29
She said, Oh well, we need a little bit of budget. I said, well, you wouldn't need more than about $1000 really to get it started, 00:38:36
so you know that. 00:38:40
You know that could be done and that would be. 00:38:44
Another another. Yeah. 00:38:47
So if we were. 00:38:51
Simplify this ask. 00:38:54
Are we in agreement that? 00:38:57
A request to increase the EDC funds to 50,000 seems reasonable. 00:39:00
Yeah, you know, I I guess the question the mayor was here last time. Mayor, I think you were here and spoke from the podium and 00:39:06
I'm still a little bit unclear about what the EDC budget is. I I think that in the past the city manager has had a discretionary 00:39:12
budget and funded some things for the DC which reached. 00:39:18
You know, 39,999 bucks, something like that. 00:39:25
Is there in effect though? Besides that, is there a city? 00:39:29
Allocated in addition to the city manager's discretionary decisions to the EDC, Mr. City Manager. 00:39:33
Thank you. 00:39:47
You got 3 minutes. 00:39:48
First of all, I want to apologize for being a little late today. I meant to get here for, but I've been pretty busy lately in 00:39:51
terms of the EDC budget. 00:39:57
First of all there if you were to look in the budget document itself, you'd find a figure of about 328,000, if I'm not mistaken, 00:40:04
right off of my memory. 00:40:11
And what does that include? Well, a large part of it actually is goes to the Monterey Convention and Visitors Bureau. I think 00:40:18
that's nearly $164,000. 00:40:26
Is that line item. 00:40:36
In itself. 00:40:38
Do you have the the staff cost? 00:40:40
For the portion of laurels. 00:40:44
And that's in the budget as well. 00:40:47
And then in addition to that line item, they and I think the mayor made mention of this at the last meeting, there's $5000 that 00:40:50
goes to the small business. 00:40:56
The small business. 00:41:06
In Monterey County Business Association. So those those dollars are also appear in economic development and and I understand the 00:41:11
reasoning especially for the Convention and Visitors Bureau because. 00:41:19
They are advertising in Pacific. 00:41:27
Along with. 00:41:31
Every with other cities but but it puts us on the map per SE. Then directly what you have available is the 39,000. 00:41:34
900 out of which you've already spent 20,000 if I'm not mistaken, on those two grants. 00:41:45
That gives you 19,000 left on that line item. 00:41:54
And then there's 25,000 that is earmarked for this facade program. 00:41:59
As I understand it, there are three applications pending. 00:42:05
For the facade program at the time. 00:42:09
And I would think that if if the Commission wanted to, they could recommend to the Council that the remainder of that dollars 00:42:13
being being moved. 00:42:20
So you would have maybe in this fiscal year if you combine what's left of the thirty 9/9. 00:42:27
Yeah, which is 19,000 plus the remainder in the facade program. If you decided that's what you wanted to recommend, that would be. 00:42:35
Another 10,000. So for this year that would give you roughly $30,000 left. 00:42:47
That you have some discretion. 00:42:55
And that's the. 00:42:59
Existing budget. Thank you. And I do think that that was a question that we had previously had was that the unspent funds if this 00:43:02
could potentially be carried over, so if we are able to. 00:43:07
Access those. 00:43:13
Hopefully that doesn't burden. 00:43:15
Council with. 00:43:16
Need for additional funding? It would just be. 00:43:18
Addressing the dollars that we were not using for the year, what you would need to do it all comes out of the general fund at the 00:43:20
current time. If there were dollars on unspent at the end of the year, usually unless they're project oriented, they're they're 00:43:27
not reallocated but. 00:43:34
You could suggest if it remains unused that you would like. 00:43:41
Umm see a budget amount that that would include both what was allocated last year and what remains unspent. 00:43:49
But my suggestion is just. 00:43:57
It is a good. 00:44:03
To to get that request. 00:44:05
As has been discussed. 00:44:09
Move forward to the council as soon as you can, because they're going to start their budget workshop. 00:44:13
At the end of February. 00:44:20
And that will then in turn provide guidance. 00:44:22
For the development of the of the budget and. 00:44:26
I will say two things more One, and I know the Council appreciates the role. 00:44:31
As advisory to them on what should benefit the city from an economic development point of view, and I I will mention that you're 00:44:39
the only committee or Commission. 00:44:45
That actually has a budget assigned to it. 00:44:52
All right. Any other questions of me, Thank you. That's very helpful. You're welcome. Question on the floor is how much? 00:44:57
In proposed 50 and we can't count on the carryovers what it. 00:45:04
But I think that we can make a. 00:45:09
With the carryover, we have this whole list of things which we want to spend money on. So we could either allocate it before it 00:45:12
expires or we could say we want to earmark this so we can do it at the appropriate time, in two months time or whatever after the. 00:45:19
OK, whether we lose it or we spend it, are you asking for an additional 50K for the next budget cycle from the City Council? 00:45:27
Is that what you're? 00:45:35
I don't think it was an additional 50 Ki think it was just raising it to 250 thousand. Yeah, no, I think, I think we're at you 00:45:36
know let's say 40,000 for ease, ease of. 00:45:41
Language I think going to maybe 50 year like there's obviously a large fund and then we get a portion of that as sort of 00:45:46
discretionary spending. I think that like the increasing that portion would allow us to do some. 00:45:52
Other projects and you know, go forward with certain things and be able to do that in addition to. 00:45:58
Asking for. 00:46:05
A grant writer. 00:46:06
The funds to fund that, so whether that comes from. 00:46:08
Spending what we have left you. 00:46:13
Today or March 1st or you know, before June. 00:46:15
With what we have. 00:46:20
And then in addition to you know. 00:46:22
Asking for discretionary increase or whatever, you know you would want to call it, but. 00:46:26
I think that that's like either. 00:46:32
A few extra shekels and the pot would help us fund a lot of programs because, I mean, we end up getting locked into a lot of 00:46:34
things that are sort of than five to $10,000. 00:46:38
Range. 00:46:42
And if you look at that, I mean doing three of those a year doesn't really seem like the most productive Commission, so. 00:46:43
Yeah, I mean that's my this is all my personal opinion. I I I think that it's just it would be. 00:46:51
Important. 00:46:57
That to sort of be looked at and then. 00:46:59
Also the grant writers as. 00:47:02
Being able to generate for larger project. 00:47:05
So understanding that the urgency is based off of budget and it sounds as though we're going in the direction of of. 00:47:08
More of a bigger picture and. 00:47:16
Just expansion or consolidation of funds that were not used. 00:47:18
Would. 00:47:27
Would we all be in agreement that? 00:47:30
Perhaps the next step here would be to make a motion to focus on. 00:47:33
Firstly, staffing with. 00:47:38
The grant writer. 00:47:42
And then increasing. 00:47:43
Our overall funding to 50,000 plus the remaining funds that exist from. 00:47:46
Business or pardon me, the facade improvement. 00:47:54
In any outstanding funds that are remaining from. 00:47:57
2023 budget. 00:48:00
Yes. 00:48:03
Does that count as? 00:48:05
Before we, before we, before we conclude that can I just? 00:48:07
Please, we didn't finish off the thread about. 00:48:12
Having a you know, if council says. 00:48:16
What do you want? A grant writer? 00:48:19
I think can we choose our. 00:48:22
Three items on here that we would. 00:48:25
Ask a grant writer. 00:48:29
To prioritize like the trolley, the banners that say shop local, that you know, the concert series like what's you know if we 00:48:31
stood up and said like this is what we do like. 00:48:37
Do you think I I will say right now that I think we've made a lot of progress towards a concert series. I think that's another. 00:48:43
Yeah, that would be for me. 00:48:50
One of the priorities. 00:48:53
OK, yeah, for me, I think, I think the trolley is huge just for accessibility from the greater Monterey Peninsula, like you know. 00:48:55
There's only so much land area here, but there's a lot of hotels in downtown Monterey and what other places that people don't want 00:49:03
to visit. So I think the trial is huge for. 00:49:07
Daytime business daytime revenue. 00:49:12
In the city and I think that. 00:49:15
A huge priority I think the concert series is a great idea. There's I think pretty much everything on this list is great. But I 00:49:19
think the two standouts for me are are that the trolley and the and the concert series and especially in terms of the trolley like 00:49:24
transportation seems like there should be a lot of public. 00:49:29
Grant money that could be found for that. So, so there's an energy and sustainability aspect to public transport too. So I think 00:49:35
there is a lot of funding out there for that. So yeah, I I would be willing to so sorry, I just wanted OK. 00:49:41
I would be willing to extend a conversation as well with. 00:49:48
The our partners at Sea Monterey who are very interested in expanding the trolleys route as well and given our investments in Sea 00:49:54
Monterey perhaps we can leverage that a bit. 00:50:00
Not making any promises but. 00:50:07
Without a dollar figure assigned to. 00:50:11
We can at least begin the conversations as a priority item without. 00:50:14
Allocating funds immediately and supporting that, and I think there's a lot of overlap here as well with the Council, because I 00:50:19
believe Commissioner Coletti has presented on this and. 00:50:25
Supports this. I don't really know what the council. 00:50:32
If they took any action, actually I don't think so. 00:50:36
So but it's. 00:50:40
Something that needs that needs acting on so. 00:50:43
Commissioner Richmond, I was just going to say I grew up in a town with a trolley in Michigan and they still have the trolleys and 00:50:48
it's just like, it's not just like a way to get around, it's also just a scenic thing like this, just fun to be on. It's such a 00:50:54
different experience than any other kind of transportation. And it also is really popular with like wedding parties and just like 00:50:59
events and stuff because they would rent the trolleys and it's actually a really popular night time thing for people trying to get 00:51:04
around like if. 00:51:10
If they had been drinking or something. It's a safe Safeway to get around, since not everyone wants to do Uber and all that, so 00:51:15
there's just a million reasons for it. And PG just looks like it already has trolleys, so it should have trolleys. So yeah, we're 00:51:21
we're at the mercy of. 00:51:27
The moderate Salinas transit and the the rules that they have around their. 00:51:34
Operations, but I I agree. I think that it's always a lot of fun to have have that. I feel like we have a much better leg to stand 00:51:41
on now in the in that. 00:51:45
Conversation. At least given that there's broken ground on the new hotel going there, I would imagine that there's a lot of. 00:51:50
Service that would make sense for that route I guess. So keeping us on track budget wise and forgive me for just putting in a fine 00:51:56
point on this, but. 00:52:01
Let's talk about two more items from this list that have at least estimated. 00:52:07
Dollar figures to them. 00:52:13
Yeah, I mean, I. 00:52:16
I honestly would stick to three as a number because it's, you know, it's easy to remember things in threads. So if we say yeah, 00:52:17
they just aren't lighter because of a the C2 or one and two and three, you know, being trolley concert series and X. 00:52:26
What would? 00:52:34
I like the the banners. I mean it's I I think that there's like. 00:52:37
You know, there's always. 00:52:42
It's always nice when there's like a physical, tangible thing that you see every day that got done and people look at it and you 00:52:43
know, it's just like a symbol of progress and and also there's a lot of great data that they do work for for improving downtown. 00:52:49
Shopping and you know expenditure. So I mean I think that's like something that. 00:52:57
We also could get done pretty quickly too. So like that's I like that just. 00:53:01
For what it is? 00:53:06
I agree with the banners. Any other thoughts? Yeah, I noticed we way lowered that price when we were in our subcommittee meetings. 00:53:07
We no way is it going to be $25,000. That's insane. We feel like we said like 5000 or something. I think it was even 3000. Like 00:53:15
that's. I don't know how that number was ever created. But no way this was the old sorry that was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So 00:53:23
we changed it. Let's not pay attention to that number. I think it's more like under 5, but let's add that. 00:53:30
Yeah, I think that's an important one too. 00:53:38
Yep. OK, so the the banners and. 00:53:41
At 5K Max, OK. 00:53:45
We did. We did some real research on that and it can be done for about this. Yeah, OK. 00:53:48
All right. Well, then that looks like. 00:53:56
Proposal for Council. 00:53:58
I don't think we've. 00:54:03
Done this before, it was always the city manager that went and presented things so, so how do we want to do the concept? 00:54:04
So. 00:54:13
Chaps, may I just ask you, what is the protocol so you would work with the staff liaison in this case Laurel, to present move 00:54:15
things to council? So technically I can work with her, but everything that you want council to enact upon, I think work with your 00:54:21
staff liaison to move it forward. 00:54:27
Thank you. OK, so. 00:54:34
Yeah. So I don't think it hurts to turn up in person. So you're there to answer questions. So I, as anyone who you know wants to 00:54:39
support the 'cause, I assume would be welcome at council. So and if I may the the staff liaison can decide who from the staff 00:54:46
needs to present. So it could be somebody from planning, somebody from Floral herself, it could be the city manager or it could be 00:54:53
one of you. But the idea is the staff will take that recommendation forward and you can work with staff. 00:55:01
To decide how you want to present. 00:55:09
Excellent. 00:55:11
Chair is by default. 00:55:15
Commissioner Markowitz. 00:55:22
It's muting me. There we go. OK, I just wanted to say that I agree with those three, the concert series, trolley and the banners. 00:55:33
Because being a retired person and a resident here, all three of those not only support our business community, but really support 00:55:40
the residents. It supports people of Pacific Rd. the Trolley to make things easier to get around the concert series, which is a 00:55:48
great idea, and the banners to just let people and visitors know what's around. I agree with these three. 00:55:55
And I would urge our Commission to pass that and go that direction. Thank you. 00:56:03
You need a formal motion to put this. A nice tie, a nice bow. 00:56:10
On this. 00:56:16
OK, I'll try. 00:56:21
It can be teamwork if you so Dean OK I move that the economic development Commission. 00:56:23
Make a proposal for the city. 00:56:30
To. 00:56:33
What is this called? The. 00:56:40
Yeah, this one, yeah, to support the small business action. 00:56:43
Consisting of our prioritized points being. 00:56:47
Having a staff grant writer. 00:56:52
With the logistics worked out as stuff so deems. 00:56:57
To have an increase in budget of our discretionary money. 00:57:04
Nearly 40,000 to 50,000. 00:57:10
Our three top priorities for money that we can access through grant writing would be a trolley. 00:57:14
To provide public transportation. 00:57:24
To Pacific Grove, and especially for tourists from hotels and whatnot, as we know the trolley program to be, we've all been 00:57:27
familiar with that. Also the concert series. 00:57:32
Designed by the Subcommittee on the EDC, which is designed specifically to help small business and shop local banners. 00:57:38
Which was? 00:57:47
You know, originally an HDL thing that we've looked at and seem to be very successful, so. 00:57:50
Just just one clarification. I was just going back to what council? 00:57:57
Remember Dori said when we were talking about the the grant writer? I think the direction was, and I agree with him, to class to 00:58:03
consider it as a resource. 00:58:08
As opposed to necessarily a little bit more flexible as opposed to just a staff member make it a resource. So a full time, a full 00:58:14
time business resource to the EDC essentially, yeah. And that's what I meant to say when I said, you know and all the logistics 00:58:19
that need to be worked out, that is something we're handing over to city staff to, yeah, but resource that'll do it. So we amend 00:58:25
that to resource. 00:58:31
Seconded. All right, all in favor. 00:58:38
OK, let me take A roll. 00:58:43
Vice Chair Jacobs. 00:58:47
Commissioner. 00:58:50
Commissioner Richmond, Hi, Commissioner Markowitz. 00:58:52
Commissioner Gibbs. 00:58:58
And then chair upman A. 00:58:59
OK, motion passes, 621 Subs. 00:59:02
Fantastic. Congratulations everybody. 00:59:06
Thanks. 00:59:10
And well done. Thank you to the subcommittee for all your hard work. 00:59:11
OK, that brings us to the concert series. 00:59:14
Commissioner Richmond, do you have a update? 00:59:18
I don't actually have any update. I was originally going to say we should just take this off the agenda, but I did want to bring 00:59:21
it up, so I decided not to. I am still just waiting to hear back if all the permits for those dates that we chose were approved. 00:59:29
And I'm not sure if I think they had to make it to City Council first to approve the calendar for the year. Has that happened, 00:59:38
that calendar meeting, So a contract planner, Joseph or will be bringing that to council. Yeah, it has not happened yet, but he's 00:59:44
done the agenda report. OK. So that's the first thing we don't know, but it has to be approved first before I can say we're doing 00:59:49
it. 00:59:55
And then second, I was hoping Jenny was going to be here tonight so that I could ask. 01:00:01
Because we still don't know budget wise what's going on there. And I know since the Chamber did it last year, they were just a 01:00:05
little overwhelmed volunteer wise. So that's why they weren't going to do it this year. But I figure there might be some funds 01:00:11
still that they would put towards it. So I was hoping to ask her about that, but either way without. 01:00:17
For sure the dates and without knowing how much the budget is, there's not much to be planned because I don't want to overextend 01:00:24
and then realize we can't do this and that and this so. But I do. I I'm still confident once we do figure those things out, I'll 01:00:28
be able. 01:00:33
Whip up. 01:00:38
Some uh plans to get it going, so. 01:00:39
All right. Any members of the public that would like to make? 01:00:44
Stormer. 01:00:49
Thank you. 01:00:55
Well, the rec board. 01:00:57
You know, put its application in there for you and and they forward it to council with their recommendation, of course. 01:01:01
Technically it's a late application and you ask for full funding from the city. 01:01:08
As a city funded event, OK, well that brings up procedure processes too in that. So the City Council will decide all of this. 01:01:16
But. 01:01:28
When it was presented, it didn't even say that this does. 01:01:30
Include a street closure of Central Ave. again. So that would be two in one week from the farmers market and this and it's just 01:01:34
interesting that there were certain things left out. So it will be fascinating to see what council does with it because there were 01:01:40
other special events that. 01:01:47
The REC board passed on, also to council. 01:01:54
That started off as absolutely full cost recovery events and now we're asking for city sponsorship too, so. 01:01:58
It's going to be a larger item than you might think on the City Council. 01:02:09
That's all. 01:02:15
Thank you. 01:02:17
Hello. Are you Are you allowing me to speak? This is Peggy Gibbs. 01:02:33
That was muted. You have the floor. 01:02:43
OK, I just wanted. 01:02:45
Tell you how much I appreciate that you move forward with getting these items going and just something to think about often in 01:02:49
writing grants there is even if. 01:02:55
Have a grant approved. There is a matching fund requirement. 01:03:01
That could come either from public or private. 01:03:07
And so that might be an opportunity for you to increase how you get things accomplished by going out to the community and asking 01:03:12
for them to match or using some of your funds, knowing that there's very little to move around. The other thing I would say is. 01:03:21
I liked hearing a Chair upman's comment about going back to the. 01:03:31
Mon. 01:03:38
Uh, see Monterey Group and seeing if that could leverage what's already being paid to them and work with the Monterey Salinas 01:03:41
Transit to negotiate what could be done with the trolley. So it's a win, win for everyone. I I think that that would be an 01:03:47
important thing because it is a sizable amount we're already paying. 01:03:54
At that $164,000 for marketing Pacific Grove. So anything we can do to tie that in with if a trolley goes forward and hopefully it 01:04:01
will then to make it a return on investment in everything in the marketing that's happening in the mapping that's happening in the 01:04:09
town and and the banners and all of that working together. So I would just again just say every time you can do a return on 01:04:17
investment. 01:04:25
Analysis by including other things that leverage it. I would encourage you to look at that so that every dollar goes as far as 01:04:34
possible. 01:04:38
Thank you very much. 01:04:48
Any further questions, comments, discussion around the? 01:04:52
Music. 01:04:57
I just want to say we're extremely lucky to have Kelsey, who I don't know if you remember HDL, came up with a ginormous price tag 01:05:01
on this event and Kelsey has said I've done so much more with so much less money and really turned it around and made it a 01:05:09
vibrant, you know, achievable goal that. 01:05:17
You know, we could. I hope. I hope we managed to. 01:05:26
To start. 01:05:30
Thanks, Kelsey. 01:05:32
We're not. 01:06:06
Disrupting too much, it's actually going to be less than last year. So that's. 01:06:08
Thank you. Any further comments Seeing none. OK, let's move move along to the QR code business information. 01:06:13
Program, Commissioner Hoops, you have an update on. 01:06:20
The update is, is that we have learned from the city. We kind of discussed this last, last meeting. We learned from the city that 01:06:23
there can be. 01:06:27
A class share opportunity similar to the facade program we've sort of landed on. 01:06:33
Given that, the rough budget per. 01:06:39
Project if you will, per, per video or whatever per business that would be partaking in. This would be someone in the order of 01:06:44
$2000. We figured that a fair cost share would be. 01:06:49
10% to 90 percent, 90% towards the city, so at this point. 01:06:55
We are looking. 01:07:02
We're at the point to vote, to fund, to allocate. 01:07:05
EDC funds to that project. 01:07:09
And that's essentially it. What we'd need to do to move forward with it. I mean, we've talked about it several times. 01:07:12
We like the program. We have the vendor lined up. We would just need. 01:07:18
Allocate fund. 01:07:23
And then from there we. 01:07:25
City outreach. City staff outreach to business owners to. 01:07:27
Market the program essentially the same way we did with Facade or any of our other initiatives. So that's where we're. 01:07:31
So, so hopefully. 01:07:40
Do that. 01:07:42
Yeah. 01:07:47
Comments from the. 01:07:49
None. Any discussion or questions. Comments from Commissioners. 01:07:53
Present. Well, we've talked about it a lot and have all been really enthusiastic about it, so. 01:07:57
No more to add really. 01:08:06
So go ahead. Yeah, I just back to the budget. 01:08:10
Separate line item or is this lumped? 01:08:16
The total that we're asking for next year? 01:08:19
No. So I think from my understanding. 01:08:22
You know, we started with let's say 40. We spent 20 on the small business grant. 01:08:27
Program we have 25 allocated for. 01:08:31
Facade. 01:08:36
However, facade improvement, ISM, there's three penny applications and there are Max of 5000 per applicant. So at the very most 01:08:38
we're sending 15 on that I. 01:08:43
However, that is something that we could so. 01:08:48
Vote to. 01:08:52
Whatever our remaining budget is, which currently stands. 01:08:54
20 I guess. 01:08:57
To this or a portion thereof. 01:09:01
So that that's that's my understanding of as far as but I would. 01:09:04
To your. 01:09:09
Fiscal year 2324's budget that we're currently in would be going towards this project. Yeah, well, I agree, I think, I mean it's. 01:09:11
If we're ready to to get going and get that money spent, we don't have a lot of time. 01:09:17
Left, so I'm in favor of that. Whatever is left, that should cover it. Maybe we're down in the detail a little bit, but when we 01:09:22
get to the point, I'd recommend that perhaps the city staff. 01:09:28
Issue an RFI, you know, request for interest out to the businesses. You know, just put it up on the PCG website or someplace and 01:09:36
just like like they did. 01:09:40
For the for the storefront spaces when people want to participate, we had 19 responses in the affirmation and people said I'm 01:09:44
willing to the main question is are you going to participate what you have a QR code you know plaque and. 01:09:50
Are you willing to put the money up? That's the big thing. You're going to put money up on the line. It'll be good to get a good. 01:09:57
I think it's it's it's beneficial for us to say, hey, we got this. 01:10:01
You know 20 people said they put up whatever 800,000 bucks, go back to the city and said we got willing investors ready to make 01:10:06
this thing go, let's get going with it. So anything we can do to show our interest would be important. 01:10:12
Yeah, Commissioner, I just want to say I agree with using those funds for this because as we've all realized, if we don't hurry up 01:10:18
and do something, our money goes away and I don't want to do that again. So I mean, I know it's February and we have few months, 01:10:25
but if we can say yes now, it will actually probably happen before that time comes, so. 01:10:32
I'm super down for this. Yeah, 100%. 01:10:39
I will ask one question regarding budget. 01:10:44
Do we feel that allocating the remaining funds in its entirety is the best approach or a portion of the remaining funds? 01:10:50
This is the discussion, right? I think that the the largest circle around this discussion has been. 01:11:00
Or pilot interest, you know, to get this program sort of on its feet. 01:11:10
It makes sense to have more participants than less, just so that there's visibility and then other people ask and you know, and 01:11:15
then it's actually useful and so on and so forth. So there is a little bit of. 01:11:21
Sort of escape velocity to the program I guess, but. 01:11:28
You know. 01:11:33
Not $5000 I guess is my point, but but you know whether it's 20 or 15, it is what it is. I mean as much as we can it. But I think 01:11:35
given that we're I guess three meetings now away from a new budget, I don't really see a ton of projects on the horizon that would 01:11:41
be. 01:11:48
I don't. To Kelsey's point, I don't. 01:11:55
Not allocate it and then be like, oh, we could have used the extra 5000 over here. So if we were to say just ballpark and you 01:11:58
forgive me, you may have already thrown out a figure, but that's fine. 01:12:03
We were to say pilot program with 10 participants. What are we looking at for investment so. 01:12:08
As I said about about $2000 per participant total cost. So for for production, you know there's a, there's a. 01:12:15
A little bit of costs associated with the actual plaque or you know, a fixture to the business which then could be. 01:12:25
I don't imagine it's going to be a huge expense and that also could. 01:12:33
Given that the production of this is. 01:12:37
Gonna take a while That could be into the following year's budget, so. 01:12:41
You know, quibbling aside. 01:12:46
Rough numbers, about 2000 per participant with a 10% cost to the business. So we're looking at you know $1800 ish per participant. 01:12:50
So if you want 10, that looks like 18 grand. 01:12:57
What are we going to do with the other 2000? 01:13:05
So not that that's. 01:13:09
You know, 11 participants versus 10 isn't gonna make or break the program, but I I don't. I also don't wanna leave it. 01:13:11
For nothing. Also, if it's already allocated, we already have it though, right? So if we get to more a month later, that can go 01:13:18
towards those two, right? 01:13:22
Are you saying? 01:13:28
I think it's a use it or lose it kind of situation yeah but if if we. 01:13:30
Like how if we get 20,000 Hangouts. 01:13:35
But if we have some, we have to obviously like get the logistics figured out with the people we're working with, the film people, 01:13:39
so some sort of contract. That said, here's this money, it's going towards this. They already have the money they have to do this. 01:13:43
So like. 01:13:48
This is a good question and and perhaps the staff or council, but we ran into this problem with the business grant right is that 01:13:54
it was allocated from previous fiscal year and then we ended up holding the bag for it in this fiscal year, so. 01:14:00
I don't have the answer to that, but I also don't want to not do it and then. 01:14:07
Not even have the chance to spend the 20 grand that we have. So that's. 01:14:14
That's my opinion of it, but I think like, yeah, if we can hustle a little bit, I think. 01:14:19
We should be able to get a couple of them done, hopefully if there's interest, you know soon. 01:14:25
Yeah, I would have. 01:14:31
I would imagine people would want it done before the real tourist season hit, so if we can get. 01:14:33
This done, we can get an RFI and we can get the ball rolling spring. 01:14:38
Hopefully we can spend some money before July 1. 01:14:44
So just in the interest of fiscal responsibility? 01:14:49
If we were to allocate, let's say 10,000 of the 20,000 remaining. 01:14:54
Do a test. 01:15:00
See what we get for a response and then at our next DDC meeting if we've already got. 01:15:01
Hand razors to cover 10 and potentially more we. 01:15:08
Look at the remaining 10. 01:15:11
And assign it to that. 01:15:14
I like this idea very much. The only thing that I would worry about is that if. 01:15:16
You know, being a public entity, right? We do, we have to say the city has allocated $10,000 towards this and then. 01:15:20
Then when people say I'm interested, go well, sorry, the program. 01:15:28
You know, tapped already and then and then we lose people that might be interested by saying before we can reallocate or is there 01:15:32
like. 01:15:36
Does the public that's interested not have to know? 01:15:40
What the budgetary question is so that we don't. 01:15:43
They don't know that it might be over before it starts type. I don't want people to lose interest just because they feel like they 01:15:47
they missed their chance to buy it at the Apple. Does that make sense? Yeah, it sounds like the facade program. 01:15:52
So whatever the verbiage is that we're using for the facade program would be. 01:15:57
But is there is there a dollar amount for the fraud program that's public facing? 01:16:02
Yeah. It would be similar to the Facade program and we do say it's limited, we basically. 01:16:08
You say it's limited, but you don't say we have X amount. I I've had to turn people away and said the money's been spent for this 01:16:15
year. 01:16:19
Right. But my point is. 01:16:24
Raise your hand. They don't know exactly how much is there and how many people have done it and how much we have left, right. I 01:16:26
just taken applications in order of. 01:16:30
Like receiving. And if one's turned in, that's fine. I just don't want people to not raise their hand because they feel that the 01:16:35
program is already out of money. Does that make sense? Mm-hmm. OK. 01:16:40
So the reason why I don't, I'm hesitant to allocate the full amount is just because then we've remarked it and if we do decide 01:16:46
that we want to spend. 01:16:50
Something in our next two sessions that we've already dedicated the funds and we can't go back. I think this is totally reasonable 01:16:55
and fair to go forward with. 01:16:59
You know, because we can. 01:17:04
Go deeper, another question, would we be able to have? 01:17:07
You know some amazing way that it's it's incredibly popular and everybody is lining up at the door to participate in this program. 01:17:13
Would we be able to call a special meeting and allocate additional funds? 01:17:20
OK. So I think that takes care of that as well, right. So we can we can tap into additional funds if need be job sorted. 01:17:24
And and just just because I really want this to happen and I'm excited about it, I'm going to. 01:17:33
Post on the Captain Stoker's Instagram about what businesses in PG are interested, and if I get emails right then and there, I'm 01:17:38
gonna make sure everyone knows we've already got these numbers 'cause I I really. 01:17:44
Yeah, I want this to happen. And if we can get things just figured out by next meeting, that's even more beautiful. So yeah, I'm 01:17:50
just wondering. 01:17:53
Do we need to have some kind of guidelines? 01:17:59
What businesses get prioritized like? Because I think this is very tourist facing, It's a visitor facing, isn't it? Visitor facing 01:18:03
I think would be the the thing, yes. 01:18:09
Yeah, I think that there are. 01:18:18
Sure. Let's say visitor facing is probably the predominant user of this program. Sure. 01:18:21
Yeah, yeah. What was the nature of your question? I'm so sorry, no, I I just was wondering if we needed further. 01:18:28
Guide I I you know well. 01:18:34
I guess we will have a motion and we'll just worry about the budget, But then after that, maybe we should worry about verbiage. 01:18:36
Sure. And I think I, you know the the big. 01:18:44
Draw to this, I think, on the Commission has been that it. 01:18:48
You know, it appeals to every. 01:18:53
Person or every every type of business and everything that's in town and every location, right? So it's not. 01:18:55
I think a first come first serve is fine. If that happens to be 10 art galleries, then so be it. You know that. That's fine I I 01:19:03
think. 01:19:06
I would imagine that that predominantly restaurants would be interested in this because they have, you know, a distinct story to 01:19:11
tell that differentiates them from the person next door, however. 01:19:16
You know, art galleries, antique stores, things like this are are certainly welcome and and encouraged and I and I think. 01:19:22
It's something. 01:20:01
That would be, you know, they would find the people to talk, you know with their video, they would talk to the person that's 01:20:02
that's watching, you know. So it allows every business owner to tell their story about their business and it it doesn't matter who 01:20:07
their customer is. The point is that they're they're telling the story about their business and what makes this town awesome and 01:20:12
why they came here to have their business. And I think that that is like. 01:20:18
The real beauty of it, so whatever their target market is, is not for us to decide. But the pro, the program still exists on its 01:20:23
own 2 feet and that. 01:20:28
The information about businesses are getting to a. 01:20:33
And that's the goal of this Commission really is to connect customers and businesses. 01:20:36
I I do agree with you, Liz, like where you first came up with this question a little bit just because I think. 01:20:42
We want it to feel like. 01:20:48
Very personal when these businesses make these videos and like, This is why we're in PG. This is why we love PG, I I worry. 01:20:51
With what you're bringing up maybe certain types of businesses, it might feel more like a commercial. 01:20:58
Vibe, and I think that might throw visitors off if they're like. 01:21:03
Watching. If they're just scrolling through and clicking around, they're like, oh, what's? 01:21:08
I just I I think I would just worry that it would turn that direction. So the city verbage does matter just a little bit rich for 01:21:11
marketing the program to to generate interest is one thing and the other thing is, is that when we work with a company to make to 01:21:16
produce these things we have. 01:21:20
Some input to say to. 01:21:24
Can you work in, you know, a question about why this business chose specific, I mean we have a little bit of input because we're 01:21:26
putting 90% of the bill, right is still like. 01:21:31
You know what, we need some some talent, some talent investment here too. So I think that's a great point and something we 01:21:36
definitely need to look at when it goes time for product. 01:21:40
Any further discussion? 01:21:46
Yeah. So I think I'm not sure if Commissioner Jacobs would go in this direction, but if there are some questions or criteria. 01:21:48
I guess the question is, when we leave here, what next is there going to be staff is going to work on an application like there 01:21:54
is? 01:21:58
For like the facade program, we need some specific specificity I think in direction and maybe there's, you know, subcommittee of 01:22:02
one or two that would just work this out. 01:22:07
Over the next couple of weeks and because if Commissioner. 01:22:13
Question puts this up on Instagram. I'm just going to generate interest and then we don't have a place to send them. 01:22:19
That's not good, right. So we want to have that. The other thing I'd recommend is if you can find out, you know in Silicon Valley 01:22:24
you talk about a launch customer, that big customer who's got some visibility who everybody will follow if you can get them, If 01:22:29
there was one person in town who was a launch customer and you could get them to actually film one as sort of a a model. Because I 01:22:34
think we do not have a script, but somebody kind of compelling has a great story that give everybody else to shoot for and we did 01:22:40
a short video. 01:22:45
Well, I I think it's a great story and you know this inside is out, but would you be willing to do that is the question. I think 01:22:51
that's a great idea. I think that that's something that's more nuts and bolts you know as we get into it. I think and I think I do 01:22:57
think that like. 01:23:02
The reason why we're doing an outside company is that they're really well versed. 01:23:08
Getting the content from somebody to actually make something compelling. So that's why you hire a professional. But I I love that 01:23:13
and you're absolutely right. And I think, yeah, sort of a pilot. 01:23:18
Pilot one would be a great idea. 01:23:23
Yeah, I mean, there's actually 2 influencers I can think of yourself. And Rudy has like 15,000, you know, Rudolph. 01:23:26
So yeah, so Rudolfo's Cafe. He has, I think, 15,000 followers. 01:23:36
So, so next steps sounds as though we may be ready for a motion to allocate. 01:23:43
Some funds. 01:23:50
Why don't you go ahead and do it just because we have? 01:23:53
To allocate an earmark of 10,000. 01:23:57
To proceed with this program. 01:24:01
Seconded. 01:24:03
And then a subcommittee will work on the details of. 01:24:05
The sorry you seconded it already, but I'm. 01:24:10
Make a small change. The subcommittee will work on the details of how the program is outlined and how to proceed beyond just the 01:24:14
budget loan, right? So sort of the next steps and the details of of how the program comes together with city staff. 01:24:20
I'll second that too, OK. 01:24:27
Agreed, agreed OK. 01:24:32
I think that would be in. 01:24:34
Outline of what subcommittee would come back with and how to proceed. So yeah, yeah. 01:24:36
All right. Let's go ahead and. 01:24:40
Chair upman, Commissioner. 01:24:45
Hi, Commissioner Richmond, Vice Chair Jacobs I, Commissioner Gibbs. Yes, I'm gonna give it a great big yes, because this is 01:24:48
something independent of what was the HDL. 01:24:53
We took an idea. We we took it all the way through. Sorry, I'm not making a speech, but I'm qualifying, I guess. Yeah, it's a big 01:24:58
yes. We should do it. All right. And, Commissioner, I'm gonna quit. Yes. 01:25:03
OK. The motion has passed 621 absent. Thank you. And now form your subcommittee. 01:25:08
I I guess I should be honest since I already said I'd do some work for it, so I will. 01:25:17
Volunteer. 01:25:22
I mean, I guess it was my idea, so maybe I should be on it too and and welcome anybody else that would be want to. I think we 01:25:24
can't have more than three. So you guys would make an awesome duo. So let's do it. 01:25:30
Me and you. OK, I'll help facilitate your first meeting. And then? 01:25:37
You guys do your thing. Awesome. Thanks. 01:25:41
I think we might. I think we. 01:25:44
Like, why don't we do a quick vote on the subcommittee just to make sure we're all in favor? 01:25:46
OK. So in favor? 01:25:50
Consist of Commissioner, Richmond, Commissioner Hoops. 01:25:54
A roll call vote. 01:25:58
Commissioner Markowitz. 01:25:59
Commissioner. 01:26:02
Yes, Vice Chair Jacobs. Aye. Chair Upman. Commissioner Richmond. Commissioner Hoops. Aye. OK, the subcommittee passes. 01:26:04
OK. 01:26:14
Wrap things up with good to the order. 01:26:15
We discussed prior to this meeting I. 01:26:20
A brief conversation with Laurel I would like to propose that we move forward with. 01:26:24
Recommendations for future agenda items being contained and summarized in emails and that way we can have. 01:26:31
A follow up. 01:26:39
Meeting and in terms of process going forward with the EDC. 01:26:40
Vice Chair Jacobs and I and city staff meet the week following. 01:26:46
Every EDC meeting review. 01:26:52
Meeting notes and any recommendations that are. 01:26:55
Provided by e-mail and then put together an agenda for the the following month. 01:26:59
That's excellent, actually, Yeah. Yeah. 01:27:04
Just be clear. 01:27:07
So rather than take them verbally, you. 01:27:08
For people to send emails with future agenda items exactly. And how much specification are you? 01:27:11
You're going to need any new paragraph. 01:27:18
I think we can keep it. We can keep the proposal brief and then anything that's recognized in that meeting will follow up and say 01:27:21
can you please outline this agenda item further so that we can include it in the staff but the the meeting agenda. 01:27:28
Are well comfortable with that. OK. And we'll get them to you by I mean is it within one week of the? 01:27:35
Of the meeting or within one week at the next meeting or. 01:27:41
If I could answer, Commissioner Gibbs, we're going to be meeting the Tuesday following this EDC meeting, so anything you want to 01:27:45
between, you know, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, if you could send them to the chair before next Tuesday. 01:27:51
Next Tuesday is when we're going to meet if it works with your both of your schedules, but we'll try to make it work and we'll 01:27:57
learn as well. Yeah, we'll try to meet the week following EDC, so just so I can get the agenda items. 01:28:03
Our agenda quick, sooner and. 01:28:10
Just it's kind of how we run other meetings just so the changes then instead of us right here in this unfinished ongoing business 01:28:13
yakking about the stuff we want to see. 01:28:18
Formalize a little more. 01:28:23
And that meeting that you guys are having is on the. 01:28:25
Presumably. 01:28:29
Tuesday the 6th availability. Yeah, OK, perfect. 01:28:30
OK. 01:28:34
Any further comments, discussion before we Yes, I just wanted to mention my term ending date that's on the city website was this 01:28:35
month and it hasn't been updated since I. 01:28:41
We whatever it would be, so I was just hoping my date could get updated on the website definitely. Thank you. 01:28:47
OK, it is 530. I heard the bell. 01:28:54
One more thing. 01:28:59
Oh, I'm so sorry, Commissioner Markowitz, please. 01:29:01
Yeah. What I would like to do first of all is I want to thank everybody for their forbearance in me being here with Zoom. Thank 01:29:04
you people very much and. 01:29:09
It's a privilege to be with you. This was a wonderful discussion. I wish I could be there on purpose. 01:29:15
In person to be able to do this and my full intention is that the next meeting I will be there in person and I just want to thank 01:29:22
everybody from you, Chairman Upman to Laura, to city staff for making this possible for me to do this. Thank you very much. 01:29:29
We thank your education to joining us remotely. So thank you for we'll see you next time. 01:29:37
OK. 01:29:42
Right. Our next EDC meeting will be on. 01:29:43
March 7th at 4:00 We are adjourned. Thank you all. 01:29:47
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gone through staff protocol and it's under AB2449. There are four reasons and one of the just causes is surgical disability and 00:00:49
that's what I have. Thank you very much. 00:00:55
Thank you. And thank you for joining us remotely. We appreciate it. You're welcome. 00:01:03
That takes us to roll call. 00:01:09
So in Commissioner. 00:01:12
Mcmurdo's absence Laurel has volunteered to serve as secretary, and if you wouldn't mind taking roll call, please. Yes, chairman. 00:01:16
Present. Vice Chair Jacobs. Present. 00:01:25
Commissioner. 00:01:28
Richmond here present Commissioner Hoops. 00:01:31
Commissioner Gibbs here and Commissioner Markowitz. 00:01:35
Thank you. So we have six members present for voting, 1 absent and our secretary is. 00:01:41
Absent also. 00:01:48
That takes us to approval of the agenda. 00:01:52
The agenda and supporting documents of the packet were circulated in advance of today's meeting. Are there any members of the 00:01:55
public that would like to make a comment on today's agenda? 00:01:59
Seen, I just seen. 00:02:06
OK. Any. 00:02:11
Any comments on the agenda? 00:02:15
Members of the EDD. 00:02:18
Just one comment the the item about from the last meeting. 00:02:21
There's an action item without detail about the Pick PG website, so I'm just wondering. 00:02:28
If there's been any update or if there's any report because there's nothing on the action. 00:02:33
Agenda and we did get a report about things that have been done and I don't see. 00:02:39
In the. 00:02:44
OK. I was not at the last meeting. I'm not sure why they weren't in the minutes and we're going, we met today it and myself and 00:02:48
the city manager and we're going to give an update at the March meeting on the Pick PG website. Paul, our it's been working. 00:02:56
On fixing a lot of the problems that Kelsey found and it's been he's been working hard and it's been great, but we still feel like 00:03:04
we have some more things to update before we bring it back to you. 00:03:10
Can we have a quick roll call vote to approve the agenda for today? 00:03:18
Did we have a motion? 00:03:25
Oh, sorry to have a motion to approve the Janet. Thank you. My apologies. 00:03:27
Agenda. 00:03:32
2nd. 00:03:34
OK, so recall is Commissioner Ho. 00:03:38
Commissioner. 00:03:43
Here or I, you said roll call. 00:03:46
I was like, wait. 00:03:50
Hi, Chair Upman, Vice Chair Jacobs. Commissioner Gibbs. Yes, Commissioner. 00:03:52
I saw his mouth go OK, so motion passes to approve the agenda as is. 00:04:00
To 1 absent Thank you, Thank you. 00:04:06
That takes us to Commission and staff announcements. Are there any announcements from the commissioners present or city staff? 00:04:09
I just have a small one. I brought this up last year. 00:04:18
Captain and Stoker we have. 00:04:22
Birthday festival thing going on in July where we have a bunch of local vendors come and sell their goods which is like a full day 00:04:25
of fun just supporting local small business and that also includes we've got live music and food and drink and everything. I just 00:04:32
want to let everyone know that does have a small business or friends with small businesses that we're going to be opening up 00:04:40
vendor applications in February. So might come out mid to late February, but I just want to let everyone know that that is coming. 00:04:47
And again, it's going to be in July in Monterey, so. 00:04:55
That's it. Thank you. 00:04:58
Any other? 00:05:01
Jacobs Yeah, two things actually. One of them is that I said that I would update people on the Arts District and. 00:05:03
I didn't check to see that it's there, but I did ask for the Arts District map to be they don't see it in there, but I did. Yeah, 00:05:11
you will see it I guess for the next time, then the map is finished and being distributed. 00:05:18
And the website is up and kind of slowly. 00:05:26
You know background information useful for the for the map and. 00:05:31
The the board. 00:05:37
I don't know if you remember from when we set it up, we specifically didn't want to be top heavy and have us. 00:05:40
Directing everything. We wanted to facilitate artists doing projects, and I'm delighted to say that a group of local artists have 00:05:47
got several projects that they'd like to do. One is to have. 00:05:52
Well, we had a joint thing with the BID and the Arts District last year to do the Chalk the Block event in June. That's going to 00:05:57
be on May the 18th this year and. 00:06:03
There's a huge expression of interest. I think it's going to be a big Pacific Grove event and the artists want to to have the week 00:06:10
following that to be art week where the businesses in the the arts District on the map, you know the the ones shown on the map 00:06:17
will have resident artists and we hope to generate some interest in. 00:06:24
Walking around, frequenting the businesses you know, getting to know. 00:06:34
Some local inspiring artists and anyway that that's all in planning stages and I, so I just wanted to update you on that. There's 00:06:38
a lot of other things to say, but this is just brief announcements, announcements. 00:06:43
The second thing is about the park. That's the subcommittee, the Council Subcommittee on Park that's met last Friday and invited 3 00:06:49
shareholders along. That would be. 00:06:55
Victorian Corner, Rudolph's Cafe and My Business Wild Fish and. 00:07:01
We we heard what they plan to propose to the Council and. 00:07:08
You know this, there's a lot of pros and some cons. I think to the project, you know, it's it's a really interesting fraud. We're 00:07:14
not averse to change or anything. 00:07:19
But there are some. 00:07:25
Pros and cons? And I felt that since the EDC did take a stand recommending it. 00:07:28
Might want to look at some of the details of the apartment proposal. I mean for instance I think. 00:07:35
One of the criticisms of the previous one that the city staff had made that it was under specified and unfortunately what I'm 00:07:42
seeing in this plan is that like there's just no specifications at all, so it's not even under specified. It's just so we might 00:07:47
want. 00:07:53
Look at this just to see you know how it's going to help business and. 00:08:00
It has impact on the music. 00:08:06
You know, so things that we know are contributing to the vibrance of downtown. So I just. 00:08:08
Think that it's worth the EDC looking at it and kind of with our optic of of you know. 00:08:17
Vitality and and business in town, so. 00:08:23
Those are my 2 announcements. I guess I can propose it for the agenda. 00:08:27
That's what's happening. 00:08:33
Further comments before we move on, Commissioner. 00:08:36
Thank this, Chairman. Just a couple things real quick. The there's a local group called Leadership Pacific Grove and they have 00:08:40
been, they're in civic engagement and education. 00:08:46
Around candidates, it's a nonpartisan group, so they don't advocate for one candidate over another. 00:08:52
And issues like housing and water and and downtown development, that sort of thing. 00:08:57
So there have been two sessions already pretty well attending the first session. 00:09:03
January 16th was held here in Pacific Gro. 00:09:08
With Kate Daniels, candidate for District 5. 00:09:12
Monterey County Supervisor and then last Tuesday on the thir. 00:09:16
We had Umm. 00:09:20
Bruce Delight and Alan Huffa, the other two candidates, major candidates for District 5 and we were in a sort of a town hall forum 00:09:22
where everybody sat at tables and there was a lot of interchange and exchange between. 00:09:29
Other candidates. Everybody seemed to think it was pretty informative. 00:09:36
It was civil, but we got down to some pretty interesting issues around housing and downtown development and the cost of doing 00:09:41
business in Monterey County. 00:09:45
So there's that. And then I see the mayor in attendance here. Welcome, Mayor. 00:09:49
And the mayor made a fine address last night at. 00:09:55
I guess it was a normal City Council time slot and you said you were going to go 40 minutes. I timed you, you went 42, I think, 00:09:59
But that's OK That's more like 'cause I got up and took us all that time. But a couple of things that were interesting to me and 00:10:05
certainly the Americans speak for himself, but I think I heard him say that the progress is being made on identifying the city 00:10:10
manager and hopefully somebody will be in place by. 00:10:16
May I think, Mr. Mayor, you said something like that. 00:10:22
That the. 00:10:27
Liz already mentioned the Apocalypse I think is going to be coming forward. 00:10:28
The ATC I think is up in front of the Coastal Commission. I didn't see it on the. 00:10:33
Agenda for this month nor couldn't tell from March, but March or April. 00:10:38
Perhaps the appeal of that that situation is going to be coming up in the next two to three months. So I think that that's a major 00:10:43
interest to people to see that get going again. 00:10:48
And the only thing I'd say about the the address last night, it was great. I wish there had been more emphasis on economic 00:10:53
development. 00:10:57
Supporting businesses, making this as much a business friendly city as we possibly can. Maybe the City Council can place a little 00:11:01
bit more emphasis on business development. 00:11:06
And bringing new business and small business and entrepreneurs into a Pacific Grove. 00:11:11
And I did get up and suggest in the address last night when there was public comment that perhaps a public private partnership 00:11:17
would be a great idea. You know, the budget is going to be very difficult, but why not raise private money? 00:11:24
To fund some of the projects that need to get done here in Pacific Grove. 00:11:31
And we have access to a couple of investors who we've talked to and they'd be willing to kick in. 00:11:36
And get it going. Maybe it's seed fund to try out a small project. 00:11:42
And create a conversation among businesses and the two business districts about what they'd like to see happen and how we can 00:11:46
support them. So anyway, I think I'd like to see a little bit more emphasis on that and and we'll be talking about that more, I'm 00:11:51
pretty sure. So thank you. 00:11:57
Any further comments before moving on? 00:12:03
I'm going to add 1 very briefly, I just want to acknowledge that Commissioner McMurdo is currently volunteering for the AT&T 00:12:08
Shuttle with the PG Chamber and we thank her for her time and service doing that that. 00:12:14
Does stimulate the economy here in Pacific Grove bringing. 00:12:20
The visitors that are in town for the. 00:12:23
To right downtown Pacific Grove, both departing and returning So. 00:12:27
Appreciate her time and efforts. 00:12:34
OK. That then takes this to council liaison announcements. 00:12:37
I don't have any announcements. Thank you. Thank you. 00:12:41
Great. General public comment. Are there any members of the public that would like to comment at this time? 00:12:43
None. 00:12:51
OK, lastly. 00:12:54
Approval of the. 00:12:56
Looks like we did have a bit of feedback on the minutes, but. 00:12:58
And that's where circulated prior to this meeting. Are there any questions on the minutes? 00:13:02
Beyond, Commissioner Gibbs, your your feedback. 00:13:07
OK, so let's go ahead and. 00:13:13
Do a roll call vote on approval of the. 00:13:16
Chairman. 00:13:20
Vice Chair Jacobs, Commissioner. 00:13:23
Yes, Commissioner, Mark. 00:13:27
Commissioner Richmond and Commissioner Hoops Minutes are approved, 621 being absent. Thank you. Thank you. 00:13:31
All right, let's move on to the regular agenda. The first item of business is election of officers after this every year. 00:13:41
And I'd like to open the floor for Officer nominations. Let's start with Chair. 00:13:48
Are there any nominations for the role of? 00:13:54
I'd like to nominate Eric Upman to continue to be our chair. 00:13:58
Thank you. Do we have a second second? 00:14:03
Thank you. 00:14:05
Any other nominations? 00:14:07
See. None. OK, All right, well. 00:14:12
Let's do a quick. 00:14:16
Roll call. 00:14:17
Vice chair. 00:14:20
Jacobs I Commissioner, Hoops commissioner, Richmond Commissioner, Gibbs. 00:14:21
Yes, and then, Commissioner. 00:14:29
OK, motion passes. Chair Upman will remain our chair for the year 6 to 0 and one absent. Thanks. 00:14:34
Thank you all. Moving on to VICE. 00:14:42
Do we have any nominations for Vice Chair? 00:14:46
I will say I'll nominate Miss Jacobs over here. I think she's. 00:14:50
Wonderful. I'll second. 00:14:55
Any further nominations? 00:14:58
OK. Let's go ahead and do a roll call vote for that. 00:15:01
Commissioner Richmond. 00:15:06
Hi, Chair Upman. 00:15:07
Commissioner Gibbs, yes. 00:15:10
Vice Chair Jacobs. Yes, Commissioner Mark. 00:15:12
And Commissioner. 00:15:17
Motion passes. Vice chair will remain. 00:15:20
Elizabeth Jacobs for the year 6 to 0 to one. Thanks. And just for the. 00:15:23
Going through the motions here. 00:15:30
Secretary. 00:15:33
I will. 00:15:35
Commission Rick Murdoch to continue in Secretary we have a. 00:15:37
Seconded, we can do a quick vote. 00:15:41
Chair. 00:15:46
Aye, Commissioner. 00:15:47
Commissioner Richmond. 00:15:50
Vice Chair Jacobs. 00:15:53
Aye, Commissioner Gibbs, yes. And Commissioner Markowitz. 00:15:54
OK, so our secretary will remain Jenny McMurdo. She's doing a great job. 00:15:59
The vote was six to zero to 1. 00:16:05
OK, wonderful. 00:16:07
So back to normal order of business. 00:16:10
Next up on the agenda regular agenda is the Small Business Recovery Action Plan Subcommittee. 00:16:14
And Commissioner Jacobs, you? 00:16:20
An update. My understanding here is that our goal is to walk away with priorities based off of the list that was reviewed the 00:16:23
previous session. 00:16:28
Yeah. Yeah. So we did start this last time and the context here is that in November 2022, so already, you know, getting on to a 00:16:33
year and a half ago. 00:16:39
HDL presented this to the EDC. I wasn't even on it. I happened to be at that meeting though, and. 00:16:48
It was well received and they were told to go away and fine tune it and they came back last. 00:16:55
Spring, End of spring, I guess last year, again, it was well received, but there were some comments about how it didn't seem to be 00:17:02
completely appropriate for our town and the way that we know our town and they're not from our town. So we needed to tweak it to 00:17:08
be more. 00:17:13
Appropriate for our local context. 00:17:19
So then the subcommittee formed with Mike and Kelsey and myself, and we met. 00:17:22
Two or three times. 00:17:28
Twice. 00:17:33
Discussed it at length. We had brainstorming, we had wide-ranging discussions and then we, you know, had more critical 00:17:34
discussions. Narrowing it back and trying to really think about what would be appropriate for our context. So this these are the 00:17:40
notes that we all agreed on in the end. 00:17:46
I think you've had a chance to look at it. We certainly introduced it last meeting last month, but I. 00:17:53
I let me just ask. 00:18:01
Do you want to go through this together or is scanning it enough for you? 00:18:05
Because we I'm happy. If it's going to refresh your memory and bring it all into focus, we could just go through the list. 00:18:13
No, that's a point of order we do it is in the packet. Is it possible to get it up? 00:18:18
On the screen, so everybody who? 00:18:25
With us online can. 00:18:28
I think we ended up last time. Do we? 00:18:31
OK. Thanks. 00:18:34
I guess maybe one more point and since I've given you the history in the context. 00:18:37
The last year it was brought to council twice as an agenda item and each time pushed off the agenda, so I think that is why the 00:18:44
subcommittee then formed. 00:18:49
Last summer because we wanted to make sure that we could present it personally and we could. 00:18:55
You know, really give it a an endorsement from. 00:19:01
The whole, the whole Commission, So. 00:19:05
Let's just look at it. 00:19:10
Find out what the Commission thinks. So before we get into discussion, yeah, why don't we open it up? Is there any comments from 00:19:12
the public? And then get into commissioner discussion. 00:19:17
Perfect. OK. So before moving forward. 00:19:22
Is there any feedback or comments from the public? 00:19:26
Open it up for discussion saying none. 00:19:29
And he So. 00:19:32
My take away from this is that it's it's twofold. One is to prioritize the items that we have before us. The 2nd is to identify a 00:19:37
budget requirements to be able to support that correct? And I was absent. I should just. 00:19:42
For the record, I was absent at the. 00:19:49
EDC meeting so but. 00:19:51
That those are the two takeaways that we're looking for today. Yeah, it's it's all. 00:19:54
You know, everything is about budget, so yes. 00:20:00
So there's. 00:20:05
One way that Commissioner Hoops framed this was what's going to have the largest ROI. 00:20:07
A return on investment. So he made the point last time that action item number one. 00:20:13
Has to kind. 00:20:20
Take precedence over everything else because that's actually a position that could earn, you know, 1/4 of a million, half 00:20:23
$1,000,000 per year if it were. 00:20:28
UM enacted on you know it put into place so and that is have a full time EDC staff member for grant writing is primarily liaising 00:20:33
with business interest groups and so on. 00:20:39
Jenny at the Chamber mentioned it would be awfully nice to not have to wait for the Wednesday to talk to the business liaison 00:20:45
person, but to you know be able to bring up things at anytime. So I think when this this was also actually presented in a summer 00:20:53
as an agenda item, separate agenda item just because looking around at other cities. 00:21:00
They, you know, city our size would typically have two. 00:21:09
Full Time members. 00:21:12
Working for an economic development and we have one number, one one day a week. So we feel that that's not. 00:21:14
Really, in the interest of the city? 00:21:25
If if I may. 00:21:27
The proposal in this instance, then, is to have a full. 00:21:31
Staff member. 00:21:35
And I have two questions then. 00:21:36
We have $80,000. 00:21:41
Listed I have. 00:21:43
I believe I heard feedback that. 00:21:46
That figure was provided by. 00:21:49
City or where did that figure? That's just an estimate. No, I think we just looked at average salaries. We did a Google search, so 00:21:52
we would we would likely need. 00:21:57
Clarify that number and confirm that that is, yeah, I mean to be honest, the head of department who is. 00:22:02
Was the head of department that now was Anastasia. 00:22:09
And it OK, I think that's a job for that department if I'm not mistaken, is that right? 00:22:12
To to, you know. 00:22:21
Fine tune the logistics of it. 00:22:22
To make, you know, to really make the proposal, we're just saying there's a real need. So yeah, you know, we just add, we did have 00:22:25
some discussion. 00:22:29
And as an option, knowing that budget is coming up in front of City Council to have a little bit of flexibility. 00:22:34
We did talk to a couple of the cities about our size in the Valley. One was Kingsburg, California. 00:22:41
About 14,000 people in King City, and they both had grant writers. However, they were organized and structured differently. What 00:22:50
they had done was particularly the city manager in Kingsburg, a guy named Alex Henderson. I had a chance to talk to him. They 00:22:57
hired one from the outside who was very familiar with raising money for small cities for specific projects, and it wasn't entirely 00:23:05
on a Commission basis that the expectation was. 00:23:12
Was that they would. 00:23:20
Right, the Commission back. 00:23:21
As part of the grant proposals, you can't type. It's not illegal to type 1 to the other, but. 00:23:24
There were some goals set if you raise this much money. 00:23:29
You know, there was some benefits and payouts against that. So, so I I'm OK with it. If it's more of a contract with an outside 00:23:33
firm, you don't have to pay. 00:23:38
Benefits, you don't have to pay, you know, get them into the pension system and all that kind of stuff. They might cost just a tad 00:23:43
more, but I think we have a little bit more flexibility. 00:23:47
Knowing that you know there's gonna we're gonna be fighting for money in the City Council budget. 00:23:52
Right. Is there anyone present that disagrees that this is? 00:23:56
The highest return on investment that we could possibly have out of everything. 00:24:03
In the list that we're going to be reviewing today, I mean it just seems to me that. 00:24:07
This has to be a priority. 00:24:12
Yeah, I think it's simple logic and and very clear. So yeah, I mean my my comment was is that the great writer then is the is the 00:24:18
only thing on this list that actually generates money that for for funding. 00:24:25
All the other you know. 00:24:34
Items 2. 00:24:35
What have you So the, I mean and yes, like there there is a, there is a, there's a cost associated to that person paying a human 00:24:37
to do that but. 00:24:42
That you know, coming out of the academic science background like. 00:24:47
How you live, right? You have to write grants to then pay for your own salary. So it's sort of like. 00:24:52
There's a float there that has to come out of public funding, but essentially is made back from the city or to the city by. 00:24:57
Income of grant so like. 00:25:04
Yeah, there there. 00:25:08
I think it's the only thing that makes sense to be able to accomplish anything is to have a grant writer getting us funding for 00:25:09
economic development, because otherwise we're gonna run out of money quick, OK? 00:25:14
So Laurel, or perhaps chaps. 00:25:20
My question then. 00:25:25
And Commissioner Markowitz. 00:25:27
Address you in just a moment. I apologize, I just only saw your hand. 00:25:29
In terms of of process or something like this if we were to pull this. 00:25:34
And approach council with a recommendation. 00:25:39
How far would we need to go in terms of putting together a proposal for a position or the details, or are we able to just simply 00:25:43
say we we feel that based off of our assessment, this would be an incredibly valuable, valuable position. We'd like to make that 00:25:49
recommendation to council. 00:25:54
I think it makes sense to. First of all, I think it makes sense to not qualify what type. 00:26:02
Resource. This is just say have a resource right you you essentially the ADC just needs a resource. Whether it's full time or a 00:26:10
contract or temporary is none of your concern. You just need the resource and I think that's that's the intent of this from what I 00:26:16
what I can see. I would argue for business services for the city though as well right? Because my understanding is that. 00:26:22
Forgive me, but Laurel, your time is limited to respond. 00:26:29
City requests. You don't have that. 00:26:33
As a full time role, you have other responsibilities. Yeah. I'm a planner also exactly, so it goes beyond just what our 00:26:36
requirements are. It's also the city requirements for its operations. 00:26:41
Correct. So so somebody within the city will assign a resource whether that's or somebody else or a Grand trader could be. 00:26:47
It's. 00:26:55
I think this as it stands, I would just say that you want a resource that is dedicated to grant writing so that they're able to 00:26:57
get the grants and that grant writer could be used for other grants the city wants to. We don't know those like information there. 00:27:04
My, my. 00:27:11
My view is that prioritize this list. 00:27:14
And submitted to council so that the council can have a lean on how those needs to move forward. 00:27:17
Of developing tools. We're going to start the budget process. We're going to be starting pretty soon here, so title wrap the side 00:27:24
of the night so you can actually move forward with next steps. 00:27:30
But my top three I would recommend and you members where the funds are there as those placeholders because it can be less it could 00:27:36
be high. I've also seen cases actually the the last League of California cities conference actually made a brand from where they 00:27:43
where they engage per grant. 00:27:51
So you just pay for the grant. 00:27:58
And they'll let a grand for you. So it's my grand. So various combinations that we're not aware. 00:28:02
But I would say what you need is what you need to send to. 00:28:08
Thank you, Commissioner. 00:28:13
I'm sorry. 00:28:19
Richard Markowitz, You'll need to unmute. There you go. There you go. OK. I just wanted to add that I absolutely agree that number 00:28:25
one on this is the most. 00:28:29
Urgent and fundamental thing. Anything on this list. Everything flows from the top. This is the first thing. 00:28:34
We it gives us a process to take a look at other things we want to do, knowing we have a staff member for grant writing. 00:28:41
Someone we can go to who can put things into words and action that we. 00:28:49
The bunch of us together can sit here and talk about we absolutely need to have a person like this. And I agree with the 00:28:55
sentiments that this number one should be #1. Thank you. 00:29:01
I just want to give a real life example just to like put this all into perspective just as we're we're all in agreeance, but. 00:29:09
With all of our flooding and everything crazy last year, we all know like there were so many power outages and tourism didn't come 00:29:18
back and all this craziness and. 00:29:22
And I was looking for grants as a business and I actually came across like a bigger like grant for cities. And I it was like 00:29:27
millions of dollars for disaster. Like it was loans and grants. There was like two different options. But I was just imagining 00:29:33
like if we had had this person. 00:29:39
If we had done this last year at the same time and would have been able to get that grant, that kind of money could have gone 00:29:47
towards fixing up our power issues and our flooding issues and whatever else might have wreaked habit last year. 00:29:53
And would prevent anything that might be happening soon with that storm on its way. So just a real life example to how important 00:30:00
this is and how it'll just continue to be really important. So I'm pumped about it. 00:30:06
Commissioner Hoops. 00:30:13
I think the question then becomes for us. 00:30:16
Here now currently is that. 00:30:18
Do we want or need to ask Council for anything other than this position? 00:30:20
Given the short timeframe that we have, I think like. 00:30:25
You know, there's a lot on this list and that's of course what we want to like look after and go for, you know, in the coming 00:30:29
months and like given that. 00:30:33
Budgetary planning for Council is. 00:30:36
Very soon and then fiscal year, the city and then our budget resets. I feel like it might be good to have in place, like have a 00:30:39
grant writer in place. 00:30:42
By the time the fiscal year sort of kicks over, we'll renew our budget and then we'll have hopefully some grant money coming in 00:30:47
the next, you know. 00:30:51
Quarter or two after that. So by the end of the year, so midway through our fiscal year and we could really be hitting the ground 00:30:56
running with a lot of these programs in. 00:31:01
Quarter one of 25 I think is probably the best time frame we can realistically hope for, but I think. 00:31:06
Going and asking for maybe two or three of these things might muddy the waters a little bit. That's just my personal opinion. So. 00:31:13
Yeah, I I personally will say that I I appreciate. 00:31:19
Being proactive about our approach in a way where we can effectively cover some of the expenses for some of the other. 00:31:25
Initiatives that we have, I'd much prefer to be able to say that we're able to pay for what we're asking for versus asking for 00:31:34
more funds from City Council. 00:31:38
So I agree completely. 00:31:44
So worse, if I could just ask the person. So worse, we would be assuming if we only submit the grant writer proposal. 00:31:46
And leave the all of the others. 00:31:53
We're assuming, then, that the grant writer will fund everything else on the list. Is that what? 00:31:56
Because once the the budget year starts. 00:32:01
It's going to be hard to go back and go to the well a second time, so we better get it right up front. 00:32:04
And at least have the other items prioritized with some thoughts what the budget might be so when we get to the point of a grant. 00:32:10
We have some idea of what it is we're asking for and how much. 00:32:17
And if I'm with the council, maybe a council member, Pedori could jump in on this. I'd rather. 00:32:20
You know, as details maybe not the right word, but more of a. 00:32:26
Approach. Because we're going to ask them for bread, right? And they're going to go well, OK, good for what? 00:32:31
Well, for whatever we decide, and I think I'd like a little bit more specification than that. 00:32:37
Personally. 00:32:41
Yeah, I mean I think, I think that was you know, like I said items, items on this list, I think we all sort of in the last meeting 00:32:44
kind of were in agreement about, you know, this is good, that's good. Especially the big ticket items were kind of like the ones 00:32:49
we focused on you know. 00:32:53
You know few $1000 here there to do something on that is further down the list is sort of like not what we need to pay attention 00:32:59
to at this time. You know right there $1000 quarterly broker lunch. 00:33:04
That's something that we could sort of do on the fly with the with our EDC budget. It's sort of like the bigger ticket items that. 00:33:10
I agree. Like we need to know what we're asking for, but I think that we can't go. 00:33:17
In the time frame that we have would be very difficult to go to council and say, OK, we want to do you know $100,000 for the 00:33:22
voucher program and we want to do $25,000 for the new poll banners and this and like line out all these things and make them make 00:33:27
sense. So I think like. 00:33:32
The Grant, WR. 00:33:37
Is the 1st and maybe only thing we should ask for with the intention of, you know, projects two through 15 being the ones that 00:33:39
are. 00:33:43
Under the purview of what we want the grant writer to do. 00:33:47
Well, maybe we could just number the. 00:33:51
Items here which we all have deemed to be useful for our town. 00:33:55
Number them in in priority order so that you know for instance getting a trolley to come to Pacific Grove, you know if we said 00:34:01
like that. 00:34:06
Be massive. Let's put that at #2, after the grant writer and. 00:34:11
Music series. 00:34:16
You know, the way it's been designed to promote business. It's not just the regular music series, it's actually a, you know? 00:34:18
You know, there's a sort of a micro level of organization which would be very beneficial for the town, so like this. 00:34:26
You know, we could put these. 00:34:32
Forward, as these are the things that we would use the money on. There's also some beautification things. There's also some. 00:34:34
Yeah. 00:34:43
A lot of programs and you know, things that that would, yeah, that need money, that need budget and that this would provide. 00:34:45
If I may then. 00:34:53
I think we're all in agreement that staff member would be #1. 00:34:55
Would it? 00:34:59
Would we agree that prioritizing our top three to four, in addition to the staff member, would be the next step of this exercise 00:35:01
and we can go through? 00:35:06
And then? 00:35:11
At the very least, we. 00:35:13
Bring the staff member to council and then we can address some of those other. 00:35:15
Items. Yeah, I think I. 00:35:18
Bring, you know, 20 items to council if we just brought a few and said, but if you only need to do one, do that, yeah, 00:35:22
Commissioner Markowitz, you have your hand. 00:35:27
And you'll need to. 00:35:35
Thank you. 00:35:36
The one thing I appreciate people are saying number these and whatever we do, my problem is that during the course of the year and 00:35:39
maybe the next meeting or meeting after, somebody might approach our EDC and say, hey, we have a really good idea for this stuff 00:35:46
and this is something we can act on right now. I don't want to see our Commission. 00:35:53
Limit that say, well, you're not on the list, so we can't talk about that right now. That's a real danger of we have to maintain 00:36:00
some flexibility. I agree the number one, the grant thing is more important. But if we start numbering, prioritizing everything 00:36:06
and that's what everybody expects us to do and that's the way we're going, If somebody comes up with a great idea, three meetings 00:36:11
from now is something we want to do. 00:36:17
We don't want that to be shut out. We should leave our options open to do that. I have no. 00:36:23
Objection to prioritizing these things. I think we can do that within our committee. 00:36:30
And I I think there's a real great danger in shutting anything out. That's all. Thank you. 00:36:35
Yeah. To that point, I think that there's like two things sort of happening concurrently here like this is sort of. 00:36:42
These items that we're looking at are sort of part of the small business recovery plan that we've sort of been talking about for a 00:36:49
while and put together and some ideas there that that we're then fine-tuned to. 00:36:54
More Pacific Grove focused rather than the kind of rubric that was found. 00:36:59
And I like this a. 00:37:05
And I think. 00:37:07
The concurrent side of that is like we have these projects that we're looking at and we've been talking in a concert series for a 00:37:09
long time, which I think is a great idea, but there also remains. 00:37:13
This commissions budget inherently as well, so I think maybe the thing to do then. 00:37:19
Is. 00:37:25
We want a grant writer, and these are the projects that are in front of us on the screen here. These are the projects that we're 00:37:27
going to look to prioritize at a later date. But they exist and there's ballpark this much money. 00:37:33
And also. 00:37:39
You know, if our budget currently is 39,000 or something, maybe we look to ask Council to increase that to 45 or 50. 00:37:40
1000, which is a reasonable increase and then we still have some discretionary things as Commissioner Markowitz pointed out that 00:37:48
if there is a good idea that pops up. 00:37:52
We can act. 00:37:57
Independently as a. 00:37:58
At this level, rather than in the council level or a grant, I'm waiting on a grant for whatever thing pops up. 00:38:00
So I think that's like there's sort of two things, two trains running on a similar track here. 00:38:06
Yeah, A real life example of that is that I popped in to see the Do you remember last year Sherry from Pickings Antiques came and 00:38:13
said she'd like to propose an antique district. 00:38:18
I said, look, I've got all the files you can use, everything I've made you know to to do an arts, an antique quarter or something, 00:38:25
and. 00:38:29
She said, Oh well, we need a little bit of budget. I said, well, you wouldn't need more than about $1000 really to get it started, 00:38:36
so you know that. 00:38:40
You know that could be done and that would be. 00:38:44
Another another. Yeah. 00:38:47
So if we were. 00:38:51
Simplify this ask. 00:38:54
Are we in agreement that? 00:38:57
A request to increase the EDC funds to 50,000 seems reasonable. 00:39:00
Yeah, you know, I I guess the question the mayor was here last time. Mayor, I think you were here and spoke from the podium and 00:39:06
I'm still a little bit unclear about what the EDC budget is. I I think that in the past the city manager has had a discretionary 00:39:12
budget and funded some things for the DC which reached. 00:39:18
You know, 39,999 bucks, something like that. 00:39:25
Is there in effect though? Besides that, is there a city? 00:39:29
Allocated in addition to the city manager's discretionary decisions to the EDC, Mr. City Manager. 00:39:33
Thank you. 00:39:47
You got 3 minutes. 00:39:48
First of all, I want to apologize for being a little late today. I meant to get here for, but I've been pretty busy lately in 00:39:51
terms of the EDC budget. 00:39:57
First of all there if you were to look in the budget document itself, you'd find a figure of about 328,000, if I'm not mistaken, 00:40:04
right off of my memory. 00:40:11
And what does that include? Well, a large part of it actually is goes to the Monterey Convention and Visitors Bureau. I think 00:40:18
that's nearly $164,000. 00:40:26
Is that line item. 00:40:36
In itself. 00:40:38
Do you have the the staff cost? 00:40:40
For the portion of laurels. 00:40:44
And that's in the budget as well. 00:40:47
And then in addition to that line item, they and I think the mayor made mention of this at the last meeting, there's $5000 that 00:40:50
goes to the small business. 00:40:56
The small business. 00:41:06
In Monterey County Business Association. So those those dollars are also appear in economic development and and I understand the 00:41:11
reasoning especially for the Convention and Visitors Bureau because. 00:41:19
They are advertising in Pacific. 00:41:27
Along with. 00:41:31
Every with other cities but but it puts us on the map per SE. Then directly what you have available is the 39,000. 00:41:34
900 out of which you've already spent 20,000 if I'm not mistaken, on those two grants. 00:41:45