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OK. We'll call this meeting to order. May I have a roll call please? | 00:00:00 | |
Commissioner Gorman. | 00:00:06 | |
Here, Commissioner. | 00:00:08 | |
Here, Commissioner walking stick chair. | 00:00:10 | |
Here, Secretary Lee. | 00:00:14 | |
Vice chair. | 00:00:17 | |
Here here all present. | 00:00:19 | |
Wonderful. | 00:00:24 | |
OK, may I have a motion to approve the agenda? | 00:00:29 | |
So moved. | 00:00:34 | |
All in favor. | 00:00:39 | |
Aye, aye. | 00:00:40 | |
Motion passes. | 00:00:47 | |
All right. Does any, do any of the Commission members have any? | 00:00:51 | |
Commissioners have any? | 00:00:55 | |
Announcements I. | 00:00:57 | |
And then? | 00:01:00 | |
Oh, sorry, George, you go ahead. | 00:01:02 | |
All right, much to my chagrin, the relief organization I mentioned last time that has the free tree inventory software. | 00:01:05 | |
Only. | 00:01:14 | |
Accepts memberships from nonprofits and community groups, so cities are not allowed, so we can't use it. | 00:01:15 | |
I'm still going to attend and get the software and maybe. | 00:01:22 | |
Play around with it with George Washington Park or something if anyone wants to join me. | 00:01:25 | |
The number 2, The community wildlife. | 00:01:31 | |
Not wildlife. I'm sorry. Wildfire protection management. | 00:01:35 | |
Plan or report that was prepared for Carmel, Monterey and Pacific Grove is out and. | 00:01:40 | |
I think we're hoping it's going to be posted on the city web page, but if not, I'll attach it to next month's minutes and anyone | 00:01:49 | |
who wants it in advance. It was done by the Dudette Company, which is the same company that did the George Washington Park. | 00:01:57 | |
Maintenance. | 00:02:05 | |
And. | 00:02:08 | |
The kind of like a tree subcommittee update the rec department I'm so happy about this is. | 00:02:10 | |
Putting together. | 00:02:19 | |
CIP request to fund. | 00:02:22 | |
School age children planting trees as an educational and recreational activity, and so perhaps we could. | 00:02:26 | |
Join with them, collaborate with them. Dovetail with them on getting CIP money. If two boards asked for it, you know so. | 00:02:36 | |
I'm excited about that and I'm excited about that because it's kind of rare that you have two boards collaborating. So we have an | 00:02:46 | |
opportunity to explore this and maybe even make a protocol for how to do that. | 00:02:53 | |
Rebecca. | 00:03:00 | |
That's going to be on our agenda later. | 00:03:01 | |
Well, I'm just Announ. | 00:03:04 | |
That it's happening, that the report is doing it has nothing to do with what I'm asking for for a CIP package. | 00:03:06 | |
And then lastly, I would like to request and I hope somebody else will support me on this to get the seasonal events calendar on | 00:03:13 | |
our next agenda. | 00:03:17 | |
I think according to the handbook, we have to have two people interested in doing that. So the Seasonal Events calendar is a | 00:03:22 | |
calendar. That's. | 00:03:25 | |
Available to city staff and members of the public, and so it would say things like. | 00:03:31 | |
The the road work and the seal pupping so no road work on Ocean Blvd. or within a certain. | 00:03:39 | |
Or it wouldn't say that sorry. It would just say seal popping season this time frame and then. | 00:03:46 | |
They would know not to do road work during that time. They would it would say like bird nesting season and they would know oh, if | 00:03:54 | |
we're going to go trim trees we need to get do a inspection for nests so it gives the the, the heads up of things like that so. | 00:04:02 | |
Want to agenda? | 00:04:12 | |
Let's I would recommend that when you have things like that, rather than just do. | 00:04:16 | |
Talk about them in general, public comment that we talk about it and put it on an agenda going forward and we can have the full | 00:04:21 | |
discussion. | 00:04:25 | |
This is really supposed to be more announcements. | 00:04:29 | |
Of things that. | 00:04:33 | |
Our city. | 00:04:36 | |
And or leftover questions from. | 00:04:38 | |
OK, I thought. I thought it was going to be agendized from last time. That's what you. | 00:04:42 | |
Right. And then things changed because it's going to, it's going forward for next month. | 00:04:47 | |
It's going forward for next month, OK, OK, cool. So I don't have to worry about it. | 00:04:52 | |
OK. | 00:04:57 | |
At the last meeting. | 00:05:08 | |
Some of the people on the zoom call could not hear. | 00:05:14 | |
The Commission. | 00:05:22 | |
And that's because. | 00:05:24 | |
Microphones. | 00:05:25 | |
One directional or something. So I just want to remind Commissioners to please speak directly into your. | 00:05:27 | |
Microphone because. | 00:05:34 | |
It was unfortunate that some people's comments. | 00:05:36 | |
Heard by the general public who are on Zoom. | 00:05:40 | |
Special actor training. I guess we'll need that. Thank you, Kathy. | 00:05:48 | |
Andre, thank you. I wanted to say thank you to the police, fire and all first responders involved in our storms last week. | 00:05:55 | |
Additionally to update on the Monarch Sanctuary butterfly count, it was 1250 last week. | 00:06:04 | |
Since we don't know we had the the storm, hopefully the numbers are still. | 00:06:13 | |
Up around that point, Hopkins Harbor seals are popping season, PG popping season beginning early February with five unsuccessful | 00:06:18 | |
births to date. The city did a really nice social media post advising residents that we're at the start of the season. | 00:06:27 | |
And also asking for the public road to be quiet around me. | 00:06:36 | |
I don't know if we have any sign updates, but that's all I have right now. | 00:06:42 | |
Thank you. | 00:06:46 | |
What else? | 00:06:50 | |
George. | 00:06:53 | |
Yeah, so Missionaries Chair Myers, I just want to reiterate what Kathy said, that we did have some complaints about microphone | 00:06:54 | |
usage and I think a good rule of thumb is about a fist. | 00:06:58 | |
Length, distance to your microphone and if you kind of listen carefully, you can hear if the system is picking up. | 00:07:03 | |
Your voice. It can be hard if you're speaking loudly, though. | 00:07:10 | |
And also had the Monarch Grove Sanctuary like Commissioner Person was saying the count. The last count was last Friday 1250. | 00:07:14 | |
Which is the normal trend as the overwintering season comes to an end and the Monarchs can begin their migration. | 00:07:23 | |
And they do seem to have weathered the storms pretty well. It's hard to see clusters from the pathway they're tending to cluster | 00:07:31 | |
in the inner Grove really high up right now, but people can see monarchs in there doing their kind of reproductive dances and | 00:07:39 | |
seeking nectar fluttering around, especially in the warmer afternoon hours. | 00:07:46 | |
But I think that's quickly going to come to an end as the kind of bar graph of the line chart of their population drops down as | 00:07:54 | |
they get ready to go. And we do still have the lower section of the footpath closed due to a hazardous tree hanging over the path. | 00:08:02 | |
And during the storm events, when it gets you know where you have extreme wind. We close off the entire path in the entire park. | 00:08:10 | |
And. | 00:08:20 | |
Moving on. | 00:08:22 | |
I just wanted to let everyone know that the black oystercatcher MO U. | 00:08:23 | |
Coastal development permit application is in the hands of the Planning Department. | 00:08:29 | |
And the Planning Commission and they're currently exploring what is going to be required if we're going to need a full permit, a | 00:08:34 | |
waiver or if we might qualify for an exemption. | 00:08:38 | |
So that is pending and in the meantime myself and staff have been collaborating with. | 00:08:43 | |
Motorola project in the Audubon to kind of make plans at a time to have make sure we have all the barricades for the kind of | 00:08:49 | |
expected sites from the last previous years on hand and to hammer out the signage so that that's ready to go. So even though we're | 00:08:55 | |
still waiting on the Planning Commission to finalize the permit. | 00:09:00 | |
Situation. We're still kind of plowing forward and making sure that we're ready and we're planning a meeting with staff and the | 00:09:06 | |
Audubon and the employee project to make sure that's all dialed in. | 00:09:11 | |
And with seals, we have the drone signs that were discussed on order. So we expect those shortly. And we're the quiet seal signs. | 00:09:16 | |
We've got some concepts and that's in progress. And I'm hoping to meet shortly, probably I'm hoping the end of this week or | 00:09:24 | |
earlier next week with that subcommittee to discuss the kind of concepts and get those ordered and maybe in the meantime have a | 00:09:31 | |
temporary solution while we wait for a permanent sign that's going to be mounted into the ground. | 00:09:39 | |
And that's everything I've got. Thanks. | 00:09:48 | |
Wonderful. Thank you, George. Council liaison announcements. | 00:09:50 | |
Good afternoon, Chair members of the Commission, I've got a couple of announcements regarding. | 00:09:55 | |
Our last meeting councils last meeting on February 14th, Council discussed and gave direction to the City attorney regarding. | 00:10:01 | |
Public comments at meetings of legislative bodies. That would be the council and all of all of the BCC's. | 00:10:10 | |
And this this basically involves providing a notice on each agenda. | 00:10:18 | |
And then also allowing the chair to interrupt inappropriate. | 00:10:25 | |
Discussion as it rel. | 00:10:29 | |
To discussion, that's not permissible. | 00:10:31 | |
And that's all outlined in the agenda report, which I will provide a link to in a follow up e-mail. | 00:10:35 | |
Council also discussed. | 00:10:41 | |
The board's committees and commissions hand. | 00:10:45 | |
And there is a revision that's currently underway. | 00:10:48 | |
That revision will come back to council for final adoption. | 00:10:52 | |
There was discussion, some good discussion on how each board, committee, Commission can provide. | 00:10:56 | |
Their recommendations to council? | 00:11:03 | |
And I'll provide the link to the agenda report and also the video. I think that's worth watching. | 00:11:05 | |
Have a good meeting. | 00:11:10 | |
Thank you. | 00:11:14 | |
Now we'll open it up for general public comment. | 00:11:17 | |
We have two or three hands raised in the audience. | 00:11:28 | |
Let's start with Lisa John. | 00:11:38 | |
Thank you. Before my time starts on my comment, I'd just like to give you some feedback about the microphones because. | 00:11:43 | |
The chair has a particularly particular challenge because whenever she turns to talk to one of the other members, even recognize | 00:11:51 | |
them. | 00:11:56 | |
But we we lose it. So mostly I've heard Rebecca and Kathy's reminder and Andre. But. | 00:12:02 | |
All the other conversation is not. | 00:12:10 | |
OK. Well, I was hoping that. | 00:12:14 | |
Yeah, thank you that I could have a full 3 minutes for my comment because. | 00:12:17 | |
I wanted to speak about the Great Tide Pool Trail. | 00:12:22 | |
And you know, which has been was gravely damaged last a a year ago and a little more than that and there's an item on the council | 00:12:27 | |
agenda for tomorrow that's confusing. It's on it's, it's on the consent agenda, the CIP project budget report and. | 00:12:40 | |
Titled Tide Pool and Point Pinos. Now I've tried to find out from. | 00:12:54 | |
Public works this afternoon what that is, and I'm told that it's really the. | 00:13:01 | |
The Point Pinos Trail project, but it's for 35,900, which sounds like the great typical repair project. So in any case. | 00:13:06 | |
The repairs need to be done there and so far it's not getting a lot better that in fact a bench has just been added out there. | 00:13:16 | |
By the beach where where it's below 20 foot elevation, which is a. | 00:13:28 | |
Not acceptable places we've learned, I would have thought. Also the boardwalk going straight down the middle out to the beach is | 00:13:35 | |
is at least 6 inches deep in sand and has been continually. | 00:13:42 | |
For most, for most of the way and at the North End. | 00:13:52 | |
Where? Where The trail just simply dropped off last year. | 00:13:57 | |
They've they've sort of done something but and they've put. | 00:14:02 | |
DG decomposed granite on it, but that is like ball bearings. So on a slope, a steep slope with ball bearings there are there are | 00:14:09 | |
people who who can do that but. | 00:14:16 | |
The general public and. | 00:14:22 | |
I would like to be considered part of the general public despite my years of age. | 00:14:26 | |
And I I have always walked out there regularly. I could navigate the sand. | 00:14:33 | |
The sand dunes that were there before better than I could navigate the trail. So I'm hoping that you will ask for a report. I'm | 00:14:38 | |
asking and requesting that you ask for a report from public works on what the status is of that trail and why. The other thing is. | 00:14:48 | |
There's all this concrete debris leftover from when they built the trail and added concrete that wasn't in the approved plans, and | 00:14:59 | |
all that concrete debris is scattered all over. | 00:15:05 | |
They are at. | 00:15:13 | |
They have put up. | 00:15:15 | |
The post What do they call it? Rod and cable fencing to keep people to some degree out of the. | 00:15:17 | |
The native plants and endangered plants that are out there. So I hope you will request an update on that. Thank you. | 00:15:25 | |
Thank you. | 00:15:36 | |
And now with the hand up with Tom Aikman. | 00:15:40 | |
I thank you. I just want to reinforce something George announced, which was happy to hear. | 00:15:45 | |
That. The signs. The quiet signs that. | 00:15:51 | |
Been talked about for some time for down around. | 00:15:55 | |
Hopkins Marine Station, The Seal Beach. | 00:15:57 | |
Are in. | 00:16:02 | |
Good to hear. I wish they were done by now and I was going to call and encourage you to to get on those, but now I hear you are | 00:16:04 | |
getting on those. | 00:16:08 | |
And the idea of putting up something. | 00:16:12 | |
Maybe a good idea because as you heard from Andre. | 00:16:17 | |
The need is. | 00:16:21 | |
Things have. | 00:16:23 | |
And for maybe reasons not so hard to explain. | 00:16:25 | |
The days this weekend between the. | 00:16:30 | |
There was a lot of boisterous folks that went out to blow some steam off. | 00:16:33 | |
It was the. | 00:16:39 | |
Not a good thing. | 00:16:41 | |
So. | 00:16:42 | |
Anything. | 00:16:44 | |
You can think of the speed along with temporary signs or to move it along. We would appreciate it very much. Thank you. | 00:16:45 | |
Thank you. | 00:16:57 | |
And now we have a hand raised from Carmelita Garcia. | 00:17:02 | |
Good afternoon. Thank you and thank you for your. | 00:17:09 | |
I just want to mention a few things about our native deer here in Pacific Grove. | 00:17:12 | |
So for the most part they shelter in place during the rains and when there is no rain they. | 00:17:19 | |
Come out and they. | 00:17:26 | |
Nibble on the fresh wet grass and also on the Moss that. | 00:17:28 | |
Falls from the trees during the. | 00:17:33 | |
And the Moss pretty much lands. | 00:17:37 | |
In the. | 00:17:41 | |
Some of it are in little balls type of thing, others are remain on the branches of trees and what have you so. | 00:17:43 | |
Just a reminder to be watchful of that while driving. | 00:17:50 | |
Riding bikes and what have you. Some doughs are coming out with their fawns and the fawns are about 10 months old now. | 00:17:54 | |
They're pretty cute. They're healthy looking. Glad to see. | 00:18:02 | |
11th next month PGD or awareness, we will be at the farmers market. We have a table there. | 00:18:10 | |
Each year and we'll have literature and and brochures and what have you discussing. | 00:18:16 | |
Deer and things to do and not to do. | 00:18:24 | |
And. | 00:18:26 | |
April 1st of last year of 2023, the first fan was born. | 00:18:29 | |
So that's kind of sort of around the corner and I will be monitoring does and I. | 00:18:35 | |
Typically put word out for those that might see one in their yard to alert us to that so that we can begin monitoring them. | 00:18:42 | |
Anyway, thank you very much for your time and please drive safely. | 00:18:50 | |
We still have a big herd that hang out at the PG Middle School. | 00:18:56 | |
And they have a tendency to meander across the street over to Canterbury and back and forth. And I've, I've been on the road when | 00:19:02 | |
I've seen them and drivers are very cautious and very aware of the herd that. | 00:19:08 | |
Grateful for that and encourage everybody to. | 00:19:16 | |
Just be on the lookout for our deer. Thank you very much. | 00:19:20 | |
Thank you. | 00:19:27 | |
And we have no further hands raised. | 00:19:29 | |
I was reviewing last month's minutes and I noticed that the Title 12 revisions were removed from the BNBNRC duties of creating St. | 00:19:40 | |
Tree Planting and and a Sustainable Maintenance Plan and. | 00:19:49 | |
I just wanted to see it restored and just wanted to have that brought back to attention, if we might. | 00:19:59 | |
Thank you. We're going to be revisiting that topic next month. | 00:20:05 | |
In full. | 00:20:12 | |
We'll be happy to take the take comments and have further discussion on that. OK. So. | 00:20:15 | |
Yeah, alright. Well, thank you. Thanks. | 00:20:21 | |
OK. | 00:20:31 | |
Next. | 00:20:36 | |
Will be the regular or I guess the approval of the? | 00:20:40 | |
Which we don't have. | 00:20:44 | |
Correct. So we will be having, we will have two sets of minutes to approve next month, next month. All right. I just want to say | 00:20:46 | |
that I apologize I've been very sick and when and I got the minutes to George probably about 6:00 or something the day that I | 00:20:53 | |
should have had them in and and he'd already gone home I. | 00:21:00 | |
And so, because I was. | 00:21:07 | |
They're really detailed. The 1st 2/3 the last third is rushed, isn't it? Just FYI. | 00:21:10 | |
My apologies. | 00:21:19 | |
No worries, OK, regular agenda. The first step would be selection of officers. | 00:21:23 | |
Chair Myers, would you like me to read the instructions on the normal nominating an election process? That would be great. | 00:21:34 | |
So, taken from the Boarding Commission handbook, charter committees must elect A chairperson or chair to serve a one year term at | 00:21:43 | |
the first meeting in February. | 00:21:47 | |
I think it should should be noted here that Chair Myers was not elected in February. She was elected later in the year to fill the | 00:21:51 | |
vacancy. So she has not served an entire one year term at this point. | 00:21:56 | |
Then this is also the practice of other committees, the committee chair or if there is no chair, the person who called the meeting | 00:22:02 | |
to order. | 00:22:05 | |
Will ask for nominations for the office of. | 00:22:08 | |
Members of the committee may nominate themselves or any other member of the committee. No second is required. | 00:22:11 | |
Once nominations are complete, the chair will close nominations. | 00:22:18 | |
Announced the slate of nominees. | 00:22:22 | |
And ask for a vote on the nominees in the order of nomination. | 00:22:24 | |
Each voting member of the committee shall have one vote. The nominee receiving votes from a majority of the members in attendance | 00:22:28 | |
shall be declared the winner. | 00:22:32 | |
If no member receives A majority, the process shall be repeated, except in the event of a tie between the top two vote getters, in | 00:22:37 | |
which case a runoff shall be held. | 00:22:41 | |
The winner shall assume the office of chair immediately. | 00:22:45 | |
Under using the same procedure, the new chair said shall secure the election of the. | 00:22:49 | |
The committee may also appoint a secretary. | 00:22:53 | |
OK. Thank you. | 00:22:58 | |
So may I take nominations for chair? | 00:23:00 | |
Thank you. | 00:23:11 | |
And one second is necessary. | 00:23:19 | |
Any other names? | 00:23:22 | |
I'd like to nominate Christine Walking. | 00:23:25 | |
I made it myself, but thank you. | 00:23:28 | |
It was. | 00:23:31 | |
Sorry. | 00:23:33 | |
OK. Then we go in order, George. | 00:23:37 | |
Correct all those in favor of Susan Myers. | 00:23:40 | |
Aye, aye. | 00:23:45 | |
All those in favor of Christ. | 00:23:50 | |
Aye. | 00:23:53 | |
4 Christine. | 00:23:55 | |
I'm here to go. Thank you. | 00:24:02 | |
That's a weapon. | 00:24:05 | |
OK, so we go with vice chair. | 00:24:09 | |
So do we have nominations for? | 00:24:12 | |
I would like to nominate myself as Vice chair. | 00:24:15 | |
I'd like to nominate Marty Dunn as. | 00:24:21 | |
OK. Any further nominations? | 00:24:29 | |
OK, I'm gonna nominate myself. | 00:24:34 | |
I I forgot to say that. | 00:24:41 | |
The handbook says that the BNRC is not required to have a secretary. | 00:24:44 | |
So as Vice chair, I'd be happy to continue my role in taking the minutes and writing the minutes. | 00:24:50 | |
OK, let's move forward with the vice chair. Vote 1st and then. | 00:24:56 | |
Continue with the idea. | 00:25:01 | |
For secretary. OK, so. | 00:25:03 | |
All those in favor of Rebecca. | 00:25:05 | |
Aye, aye. | 00:25:10 | |
Of course I3. | 00:25:16 | |
OK, Martin. | 00:25:20 | |
Aye, aye. | 00:25:23 | |
And Andre? | 00:25:28 | |
OK, now we have a tie with Rebecca and Marty, correct? | 00:25:34 | |
I'm reading that right? | 00:25:38 | |
So down to let's do the vote. | 00:25:39 | |
Rebecca. | 00:25:46 | |
Aye, aye. | 00:25:50 | |
Marty. | 00:25:55 | |
Aye, aye. | 00:25:58 | |
3 for. | 00:26:02 | |
Or for Rebecca? | 00:26:04 | |
Congratulations, Rebe. | 00:26:06 | |
OK. | 00:26:10 | |
What about a secretary? So Rebecca brought up that we are not required to have a secretary, although I find it important to have a | 00:26:12 | |
secretary so. | 00:26:17 | |
This is. | 00:26:24 | |
An active board, and there's a lot of writing. | 00:26:25 | |
Documenting that needs to happen. How does everybody feel about a secretary? Yes. | 00:26:31 | |
OK. | 00:26:38 | |
For many groups over the years it is a hard job. It's, I mean it's time intensive and I wonder if we might split the duty, share | 00:26:43 | |
the duties somehow on a rotational basis and rotate. | 00:26:50 | |
Two people or three people, so that the onus is not following. I'm just one person, OK? | 00:26:58 | |
I love you. | 00:27:07 | |
May I make a comment? Sure. | 00:27:09 | |
In the. | 00:27:13 | |
Boards and Commissions handbook. There is a specific call out for how minutes are to be. | 00:27:14 | |
Managed and that may be we may find that to be helpful if you've looked at the Council at. | 00:27:22 | |
Meeting minutes. They are much simplified compared to what we've been doing on the BNRC. They aren't as detailed and the | 00:27:30 | |
recommendation is that for minutes. | 00:27:36 | |
In terms of the discussion of the BNRC only action. | 00:27:45 | |
Is documented. | 00:27:51 | |
So that may help whoever is taking the minutes. It wouldn't be quite as onerous. | 00:27:55 | |
And then of course there's always the video for people to refer to. I mean, other things are documented, for example. | 00:28:01 | |
The written submissions and comments and also the names of the people that make public comment. | 00:28:09 | |
Noted, but there doesn't seem to be a need for AS owners. Yeah, OK. I think using the handbook as a as a guideline as our | 00:28:18 | |
foundational point would be valuable. | 00:28:25 | |
Yeah, the handbook makes a recommendation. It doesn't say you have to do it that way. The reason I've been doing it with detail is | 00:28:32 | |
that, and you can correct me if I've got the time wrong, George, but the they're only actually required to maintain videos online | 00:28:37 | |
for. | 00:28:42 | |
Six months or a year? And the reason they are still available from years past is because staff just hasn't gotten around to | 00:28:47 | |
deleting them. So if it's not in the minutes. | 00:28:53 | |
And it's not. I mean, you can get a gist of it from the letters, but for example, our last meeting, we didn't take any action. | 00:28:59 | |
So that huge 3 hour meeting and it. | 00:29:05 | |
No action taken that would be the reflection. So anyway, that's why I put the detail in and we'll continue to do so when it's my | 00:29:09 | |
responsibility unless. | 00:29:13 | |
Unless y'all want to vote that down or something, OK? | 00:29:18 | |
OK. And how do we feel about maybe multiple people being taking the role of secretary maybe off and on? | 00:29:24 | |
That feel OK. | 00:29:32 | |
George, is that permissible? | 00:29:35 | |
I'll read from the Board and Commission handbook that references A singular a secretary if a secretary is appointed by the | 00:29:38 | |
committee. | 00:29:42 | |
The the Secretary is responsible for timely completion, so is my interpretation of this short paragraph. | 00:29:48 | |
The boards and Commission handbook only imagines A singular secretary. | 00:29:57 | |
Thank you. | 00:30:01 | |
And I think. | 00:30:04 | |
Just to streamline the process of rotating secretary position would only complicate things in my opinion, but. | 00:30:06 | |
Be it. | 00:30:15 | |
Thank you. | 00:30:17 | |
I'd like to open up nominations for a secretary. | 00:30:18 | |
I'd like to nominate Marty. | 00:30:30 | |
Oh, come on. | 00:30:37 | |
Well, you can decline. | 00:30:40 | |
Thank you. | 00:30:43 | |
Anybody else? | 00:30:45 | |
OK, already done. | 00:30:49 | |
All in favor of Marty Dunn? Aye aye. | 00:30:52 | |
OK. | 00:31:03 | |
Moving on to the. | 00:31:06 | |
BNRC 2024 Goals and Subcommittee assignments. | 00:31:12 | |
OK, we have. | 00:31:30 | |
Our Draft Annual BNRC goals as Printed up if we. | 00:31:32 | |
Want to go through these line by line or discuss within each one subcommittees I'm assuming. | 00:31:39 | |
Well, no, I shouldn't assume. | 00:31:46 | |
Let's just start. Sorry, go ahead. | 00:31:49 | |
So I had updated these with the list of names that you guys had given me. So I think all of the. | 00:31:53 | |
The Commissioners names in these. | 00:32:00 | |
Subcommittees are accurate. I also updated. | 00:32:05 | |
The Washington Park trees and and plantings. | 00:32:10 | |
Consistent with comments that I received, but the others I didn't receive any comments on. SO. However you want to handle that. | 00:32:14 | |
Thank you. I'm jumping in here. So thank you. I appreciate it, Susan. | 00:32:22 | |
George Washington parked trees and plantings on public land. Rebecca, Christine and Jennifer. | 00:32:27 | |
Is there anything that we? | 00:32:33 | |
Want to address within that. | 00:32:37 | |
I like how they're written. Oh gosh, I'm terrible with the microphone. Apparently you can hear me. | 00:32:41 | |
At home. | 00:32:48 | |
I only had maybe one suggestion for an add-on. It kind of dovetails nicely actually with. | 00:32:51 | |
Even a monarch sanctuary goal, but where we have item. | 00:32:56 | |
Work with the city on signage for Washington Park. I know we I do have a question I I thought that was part of a CIP last year so | 00:33:00 | |
a status update would be helpful. But also I thought to kind of dovetail with it to kind of beautify the signage, everything from | 00:33:07 | |
just the park to the Monarch habitat and those things. But even do mulching and. | 00:33:14 | |
Do the native pollinator plantings like as mentioned in the Monarch sanctuary and we could do it around the signs as well, | 00:33:23 | |
especially at the corners of the park. It would serve as both the beautification project I think they could get volunteers to. | 00:33:29 | |
Maintain it, you know, at least initially in water and things like that. So maybe just some kind of add. | 00:33:37 | |
Unless that's too specific. | 00:33:44 | |
We can talk about more of that in our subcommittee. Umm, Rebecca? | 00:33:47 | |
On 1.5 can you read it Marty or? | 00:33:54 | |
Update literature, brochures, etc. On PG flora and fauna for public dissemination. | 00:34:02 | |
Thank you. So that one I thought we could add or if you wanted to make it more specific, the duties in the current tree ordinance | 00:34:08 | |
of creating the tree list and. | 00:34:15 | |
A street tree planting. | 00:34:23 | |
Plan. | 00:34:27 | |
You can put that in as a goal. | 00:34:30 | |
You can just add it to that. | 00:34:32 | |
OK. Thanks. | 00:34:34 | |
OK #2 monarch sanctuary. | 00:34:41 | |
Christine, Andre and Kathy. | 00:34:45 | |
Was there anything? | 00:34:51 | |
Comment or you wanted to add? | 00:34:54 | |
That looks good. Fantastic wildlife protection. Andre Rebecca. | 00:34:59 | |
Comments or additions, Subtractions, Looks. | 00:35:06 | |
Well, Andre did a great job on these and I was just looking at 3.4, the promotion of public education of wildlife through cities, | 00:35:10 | |
social media, signage, etcetera. And I I didn't know if you're etcetera included working with the library, the chamber and the | 00:35:18 | |
museum or might be a good idea to say it. | 00:35:26 | |
To add it. | 00:35:34 | |
I like leaving it open-ended. OK. OK. We can add that and then put et cetera. | 00:35:36 | |
Oh, sure, it's just there's the ET. | 00:35:43 | |
So. | 00:35:47 | |
So, you know, if we come up with other ideas this or that, we're not contained. Yeah, yeah, I just wanted that I liked. | 00:35:48 | |
It's more open-ended if you. | 00:35:56 | |
That piece. | 00:35:58 | |
Well, I was thinking about the community corner in the library and then I go if you're going to mention the library, you better | 00:36:00 | |
mention the museum and the Chamber of Commerce and then it got going, you know, So I like, I like leaving it open with the | 00:36:05 | |
etcetera. But I also like mentioning our institutions because like city social media assignment that doesn't mention that we're | 00:36:09 | |
collaborating with people and I kind of think that's important. | 00:36:14 | |
OK. So how would you restate it, Rebecca? | 00:36:20 | |
Just before the etc. | 00:36:23 | |
And working with the library, the Chamber of Commerce, Commerce, and the. | 00:36:28 | |
Peachy Museum. | 00:36:33 | |
Et cetera, et cetera. Perfect. | 00:36:35 | |
Commissioners, chair walking stick, if you don't mind an interjection. While we're on the topic of the Wildlife Protection | 00:36:38 | |
Subcommittee, I had meant to announce that staff announcements that the discussed and approved wildlife website edition or changes | 00:36:44 | |
updates are live and can be found under the Leisure tab on the city's website. | 00:36:50 | |
And that I know that subcommittee members have met with the library director and I have met with the library director. And there's | 00:36:56 | |
a the community corner is in progress. | 00:37:01 | |
As mentioned on here as mentioned in the discussion. So sorry to interrupt. Thank you. Thank you. | 00:37:07 | |
All right, moving on to Climate action and adaptation plan. Susan, Kathy and Jennifer. | 00:37:16 | |
Any comments or additions or? | 00:37:22 | |
That's fine. | 00:37:27 | |
Plastics, pollution, Litter, Waste reduction. Marty, Rebecca, Kathy. | 00:37:31 | |
Comments or add? | 00:37:37 | |
I'm not sure if I'm able to say this now. | 00:37:43 | |
To agenda something for next time. | 00:37:47 | |
We talked about this before. | 00:37:51 | |
Which Bush should this wait for? I think sub? | 00:37:54 | |
I think we're there. I think you should talk about it now. OK? For those of you who've been watching this show for a while, you | 00:37:58 | |
might know that I have been concerned with St. sweeping in the city. | 00:38:05 | |
And doing a two mile walk with my dog today on all the flat areas around Cynics and Gibson and Hunibero. | 00:38:12 | |
There is just so much stuff in the gutters and I saw two gutters on. | 00:38:22 | |
Which were had standing water into the. | 00:38:27 | |
And it's it's litter, of course, but. | 00:38:32 | |
Natural natural detritus, But. | 00:38:36 | |
It ends up. | 00:38:40 | |
Snagged at sewage treatment and what doesn't get snagged there ends up in the ocean and the Chronicle this morning had a front | 00:38:42 | |
page story. | 00:38:46 | |
Actually, it was yesterday's story. Rising tide of litter polluting the beaches. | 00:38:52 | |
And and I just I watched the street sweeper go down my street today. | 00:38:58 | |
And I think the quality control. | 00:39:03 | |
Aspect is missing in the street, sweeping in town that they're just. | 00:39:07 | |
It seems to be ineffective. I was with one person and she said they just go down the middle of the street sometimes. | 00:39:13 | |
There are some areas where I'd seen the street sweeper had already been by because I'd watched it, but the there was very little | 00:39:21 | |
difference in what was left in the street or picked up. | 00:39:26 | |
And I think this becomes a budget line item, but I would hope. | 00:39:31 | |
That we would do as a city A. | 00:39:36 | |
Job of cleaning our streets and preserving the health of the ocean, and that will cost money. | 00:39:40 | |
I looked even at a price of if we bought our own since we contract this workout. If we bought our own, St. Sweeper and George | 00:39:47 | |
could drive it, but it would be a minimum $100,000 for a used one. So I don't think that's realistic, but I think increasing our | 00:39:53 | |
hours with our contractor. | 00:39:59 | |
During during these. | 00:40:06 | |
Is really important. I think we're we're really not doing a good job of keeping our our streets and our gutters. | 00:40:09 | |
Free flowing. | 00:40:17 | |
It it could. | 00:40:19 | |
That I mean, I think, I think the biggest problem is that there's people park on the side of the street, so. | 00:40:22 | |
The street sweeper has to go down the middle of the street. | 00:40:31 | |
What about especially during, maybe seasonally? | 00:40:34 | |
Putting the. | 00:40:40 | |
Along the sides of the streets for one morning a week, or however often they do it. | 00:40:42 | |
So that they can actually get to where? | 00:40:49 | |
The litoris. | 00:40:52 | |
Commissioners, Chairman Walking Stick, I share all your concerns and I think those are great ideas, but I do think if we want to | 00:40:55 | |
have an in-depth conversation about this, we should agendize it at a future meeting and kind of. | 00:41:00 | |
I mean, excuse me, and I don't think we're trying to have a solution but for this plastic pollution litter. | 00:41:05 | |
If you want to put that as a as. | 00:41:13 | |
Goal. Maybe that's the way to do it. | 00:41:16 | |
That sounds great to me. I like that because that maybe it won't go away. | 00:41:20 | |
OK. Thank you, Mart. | 00:41:30 | |
We have inactive subcommittees of shoreline, water, public art, integrated pest management, community engagement, educational, | 00:41:33 | |
organizational matters. | 00:41:38 | |
Are any of these? Does anybody want to activate any of these, or are there any new subcommittees? | 00:41:46 | |
That are of interest that are pertaining to our. | 00:41:52 | |
Yes, I think. | 00:41:58 | |
We're all working pretty hard and dedicated to significant subcommittees and what I was thinking is that. | 00:42:01 | |
Like we there's kind of a informal relationship with the Aikman's and they're not on this board, but they're residents and. | 00:42:08 | |
Would there be a way to kind of and? I have no idea. This is probably something I should explore. | 00:42:19 | |
Counselor or or just discuss this, But what I'm trying to say is, can we formalize a relationship with citizens so that they're | 00:42:26 | |
not necessarily a member of the subcommittee, but they are kind of sort of a member of the. | 00:42:32 | |
Public relational, you know, with the subcommittee so that they can help because sometimes it's a little overwhelming to do all | 00:42:39 | |
this work and we could use help and if. | 00:42:44 | |
Those people are helping anyway. It would give the public an opportunity to really stay informed and be part of the discussion, | 00:42:49 | |
and then we wouldn't. We would also have someone to flesh out ideas with without violating the Brown Act in any way by going | 00:42:54 | |
outside our subcommittee. So. | 00:43:00 | |
I was thinking of that idea, and it was just an idea that popped in my head before I came to the meeting, so I haven't necessarily | 00:43:06 | |
fleshed it out, but. | 00:43:10 | |
I know that a member of the public would not be allowed to be on the subcommittee, but is there a way to create a link so they'd | 00:43:15 | |
almost have a public group or maybe of part of the volunteers or something around that idea? | 00:43:22 | |
So. | 00:43:30 | |
OK, we can explore that. | 00:43:33 | |
I don't know how that operates within the city. | 00:43:36 | |
Commissioners, chair walking stick. That's a novel idea to me and I I struggle a little bit to see how that would fit into the | 00:43:41 | |
framework of boards and commissions when we have Commission members that. | 00:43:46 | |
Have to, you know, follow certain rules and regulations and I don't, I've never, I haven't seen anything like that outlined as far | 00:43:52 | |
as a template or. | 00:43:56 | |
The protocol. So it would be completely new and I'll just leave it at that. | 00:44:00 | |
Marty And with all due respect, Madam on my right, I think it sounds really. | 00:44:07 | |
Positive, but very complicated and I think the people who are interested in such as the Aikman's and Missus, Gianni and others. | 00:44:13 | |
Carmelita the others find a way to be involved. | 00:44:25 | |
And communicate very well. | 00:44:29 | |
With the people who are instrumental in the causes they're interested in, I think it might just create a layer of bureaucracy is | 00:44:32 | |
too small, too strong a word. But it might just create another layer that gets in the way rather than keeps things open. | 00:44:40 | |
Thank you. | 00:44:50 | |
Are there any other comments or suggestions or anything anybody wants to talk about within subcommittees? | 00:44:55 | |
OK, as far as the community engage. | 00:45:04 | |
#10 | 00:45:09 | |
subcommittees, we were kind of going to deal with that, is that correct? | 00:45:12 | |
So we don't. | 00:45:16 | |
Yes. And that was the that has been the practice, so we thought. | 00:45:18 | |
After we got all the documents uploaded. | 00:45:25 | |
That after that, then the ongoing stuff would be handled by the subcommittees. | 00:45:27 | |
OK, sounds great. | 00:45:33 | |
OK, let's move on to. | 00:45:36 | |
Item 7. | 00:45:44 | |
FY24, 25 Capital Improvement or Capital Improvement Program Commission recommendations. | 00:45:47 | |
If if the Commission would like to vote to approve the subcommittee assignments, we can remove the draft and have it be official | 00:45:56 | |
and even post it on the website. | 00:45:59 | |
Maybe you could solicit a motion and approve them to vote on that. | 00:46:05 | |
I move to approve the. | 00:46:09 | |
Subcommittees and. | 00:46:12 | |
As attached. | 00:46:14 | |
2nd. | 00:46:17 | |
All in favor. | 00:46:19 | |
Aye, aye. | 00:46:21 | |
Motion Passes 70. | 00:46:23 | |
OK. Thank you. | 00:46:31 | |
I'm new. | 00:46:34 | |
So let's move on to seven C 24 fiscal year 2425 Capital Improvement Program Commission recommendations. | 00:46:35 | |
Yes. Is there any public comment? | 00:46:47 | |
Because I forgot to do that in the last one. I'm sorry. Yeah, maybe that would be a good idea to open that for public comment the | 00:46:51 | |
last just so we can say we did that if you don't. | 00:46:56 | |
Opening up for public comment on Are we working Off of the goals? | 00:47:03 | |
Subcommittee first, OK. | 00:47:07 | |
So on 7B public comment for 24/20/24 polls and subcommittee assignments. | 00:47:10 | |
With no hands raised in the virtual audience. | 00:47:18 | |
Thank you. | 00:47:21 | |
I apologize for that. I'll take that back. We have a hand raised from Mrs. Engel, Lawrence and Dahmer. | 00:47:22 | |
Thank you. At this point in my life it's just miss. Thank you, George. | 00:47:31 | |
On that, having citizens, private citizens, on other subcommittee things. | 00:47:37 | |
Your idea of incorporating them, Rebecca, almost every other board and Commission has brought that up kind of, and it's pretty | 00:47:44 | |
much a no because and it's been brought up at council too because of all different things. And you're kind of in a way saying I | 00:47:50 | |
don't agree with. | 00:47:55 | |
The appointments. And that isn't very good either. | 00:48:02 | |
Any private citizen is going to be involved in whichever way they want, but it doesn't really workout as Commissioner Dunn said. | 00:48:07 | |
I. | 00:48:12 | |
You know, there's a special the mayor had and and the the city manager can do a special subcommittee that incorporates other | 00:48:20 | |
people. And I know you're thinking about that wonderful wildlife, one that the mayor convened from a few years ago that had all | 00:48:29 | |
kinds of people involved and that was still a brown act one and it just requires different things. So I just kind of wanted to. | 00:48:39 | |
Put that out. | 00:48:50 | |
Thank you very much. | 00:48:51 | |
They're interested in the virtual audience. | 00:48:55 | |
Thank you. | 00:48:59 | |
Let's move on to public comment for Seven C, the Capital Improvement Program Commission recommendations for fiscal year 2425. | 00:49:04 | |
Any public comment? | 00:49:12 | |
Just checking. | 00:49:22 | |
Dumber. If your hand is continuing and her hand is down South, no, no hands. | 00:49:23 | |
OK. | 00:49:29 | |
Chair walking stick, if you'd like, I'd be happy to read the discussion piece of this agenda item just to kind of clarify what | 00:49:35 | |
we're looking for from the boards and commissions in regards to capital improvement projects. | 00:49:40 | |
From prior to the start of each of the school year, the City adopts an annual budget. There are two primary components of the | 00:49:46 | |
city's annual budget, the capital improvement plan and operating budget. The Capital Improvement Plan is a long range plan. | 00:49:52 | |
Identifies capital projects and equipment purchases. Provides an implementation schedule. Identifies options for capital project | 00:49:59 | |
financing. Links projects to council strategic goals. Links capital projects to budgets. | 00:50:06 | |
Provides project information and justification. | 00:50:13 | |
Council Policy 400-6 defines a capital improvement project or asset as buildings. | 00:50:17 | |
Machinery or equipment with an original cost in excess of $5000. | 00:50:24 | |
And a useful life of three years or more. | 00:50:29 | |
The development of the CIP is a collaborative process. As part of the Fiscal Year 2425 CIP process, the city is providing boards, | 00:50:32 | |
committees and commissions with an opportunity. | 00:50:38 | |
To submit the project ideas that fall within their respective reviews for funding consideration. | 00:50:44 | |
The chair is looking for direction from the Commission of project submission ideas. | 00:50:49 | |
Some ideas based on previously articulated needs include monarch sanctuary, footpath replacement of rope fencing with split rail. | 00:50:54 | |
Expansion of St. tree wells and installation of permeable surfacing. | 00:51:01 | |
Replanting Lighthouse Ave. medians with native plants. | 00:51:06 | |
Those three are examples that were discussed and submitted. | 00:51:13 | |
This this time last year, but we're not funded. | 00:51:16 | |
Thank you. Thank you. | 00:51:21 | |
Let's open this up. | 00:51:24 | |
Commission discussion Do we have any ideas? | 00:51:27 | |
Chair I oh. | 00:51:30 | |
I'd like to res. | 00:51:33 | |
The monarch sanctuary footpath railing, split railing fence, OK which was not. | 00:51:35 | |
Approved last year, I think we can use the same template that. | 00:51:44 | |
Submitted last year and maybe update the cost a percentage, OK. Like it's really needed. Thank you. | 00:51:48 | |
I. | 00:51:57 | |
Resubmit the trees. | 00:51:58 | |
One, the tree wells and installation. Three wells and installations. | 00:52:02 | |
And I'd like to resubmit #3, which is beautification. And I think this was your idea originally, Susan or maybe that was in SPG | 00:52:12 | |
talked about. | 00:52:17 | |
The mediums on Lighthouse. | 00:52:22 | |
Make us look. | 00:52:24 | |
Pretty spiffy. And commissioner Dan, we want to point out that one is a little sticky because it kind of toes the line between the | 00:52:26 | |
capital improvement project and ongoing maintenance. So I think if we kind of craft the wording just right, we can kind of form it | 00:52:32 | |
into a CIP proposal, but it is kind of flirting with being just ongoing maintenance. | 00:52:39 | |
So by by enhancing the wording, would it involve by? | 00:52:47 | |
I'm not trying to dissuade you from including that. I'm just trying to point that out. Thank you. | 00:52:51 | |
Purchasing new plants and and. | 00:52:59 | |
Hiring city. | 00:53:04 | |
To plant. | 00:53:05 | |
Replant awareness, replant where necessary and newly plant. | 00:53:07 | |
Sections of the medians on Lighthouse Ave. | 00:53:12 | |
And then maybe we even want to restrict how many medians. If the city says fine, we'll give you X number of dollars and that will | 00:53:17 | |
only cover. | 00:53:21 | |
3. | 00:53:26 | |
I think that's a good start, and I'm happy to work with the chair as we formulate the wording before submittal. | 00:53:27 | |
Yeah, I think. | 00:53:34 | |
What I understand about this is that this is this is the structure and we find the way to have freedom within it. So I really | 00:53:35 | |
believe in freedom through structure. | 00:53:41 | |
And this is so. | 00:53:48 | |
Kind of how I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong, that we're looking for things capital improvement projects or assets as | 00:53:51 | |
buildings, machinery or equipment. So there's like materials involved, but that's not. | 00:53:58 | |
White plants is it? Am I kind of reading that right? Like we kind of have to have maybe like a plant bed included in that, like? | 00:54:05 | |
I think you're I think you're thinking in the right direction. | 00:54:13 | |
Right. | 00:54:17 | |
I wanted to comment on this one because I started thinking about when you plant native plant native plants in the lighthouse | 00:54:20 | |
medians, you're attracting bees, you're attracting butterflies and that's a highly trafficked by vehicle area. And is that really | 00:54:28 | |
where you want to have those kinds of things? Wouldn't you rather have them like in the area that? | 00:54:36 | |
You significantly got started here. Or maybe the beds for the bed? | 00:54:44 | |
As an example of the native plant flower garden in Caledonia Park. | 00:54:51 | |
Something like that, where the quitters were trying to attract wouldn't be dissuaded. So that was my comment on that. I really | 00:54:59 | |
like the idea, but I just wondered if there was a better location. | 00:55:04 | |
In response. | 00:55:11 | |
It's working. In response to that you can probably distinguish between native plants and native pollinator plants. | 00:55:13 | |
And. | 00:55:22 | |
Bushes, for example, that could be planted. | 00:55:24 | |
As as attractive to the bees and butterflies. I think your point is really well taken, especially for butterflies because they | 00:55:27 | |
tend to move slower than the bees. | 00:55:31 | |
But I think you could find plantings there that would. | 00:55:37 | |
Green up the space without. | 00:55:42 | |
Becoming a pollinator attraction. | 00:55:45 | |
OK, excellent. | 00:55:48 | |
Yes, George, I guess I have a question for you. So I think we heard from Lisa Chang about the Great Tide Pool and that trail. | 00:55:52 | |
Do we do have a status on that and could that be considered a CLP project? I'm just thinking I just heard that and my ears pricked | 00:56:01 | |
up. | 00:56:05 | |
I don't have a status update to provide right now that project and I know that that was recently part of a bigger project on the | 00:56:11 | |
coast. | 00:56:17 | |
So unless if you have kind of something more formulated specifically to that and what you're trying to accomplish. | 00:56:23 | |
I'm not sure what structure to. | 00:56:31 | |
Yeah, I just was thinking a troll meeting work. Didn't know what the status was, didn't know if we should put that forward as a | 00:56:33 | |
project, but it sounds like that is a piece of. | 00:56:38 | |
Yeah, from point Pinos to a Silver Mart sounds like a bigger project going on. So we do not have to address it as a CIP project, | 00:56:45 | |
correct. I think you're correct in that sentiment. Yes. OK, thank you. | 00:56:50 | |
Chair walking stick, I have a question. | 00:56:56 | |
When are actually for George? When is the, When are the CIP requests? | 00:56:59 | |
Due to. | 00:57:06 | |
Or to you to be included. | 00:57:09 | |
Submissions Commissioner, If you don't mind, give me a moment to look into that before I give you a date. I believe it is sometime | 00:57:12 | |
next month. I want to be. | 00:57:16 | |
Correct. | 00:57:21 | |
Yeah, the group was March 8. | 00:57:24 | |
Is the ultimate submittal date, so. | 00:57:26 | |
When's our next meeting? | 00:57:28 | |
I think it's it's after that, isn't it? Yeah, it is. After that is March 19th is the next day. Interesting meeting. | 00:57:31 | |
Thank you. Oh, sorry. I had a question and I think this is for you as well. George, with the CIP project that was funded, I | 00:57:39 | |
thought it was funded last year for George Washington Park with signage and maybe plantings. Do we have an update was, is that | 00:57:44 | |
something we should be pushing forward or I think the funding is there and the project is in progress. It is in progress. I don't | 00:57:50 | |
have the specifics on. | 00:57:55 | |
What is in progress? OK, OK, but so that already. | 00:58:01 | |
So that does not need to be considered for this. | 00:58:07 | |
Elaborate on that because that was my question too. It's like I had written down that. | 00:58:12 | |
We had 50 grand for the George Washington Park Enhancement Project. | 00:58:17 | |
And then 80 grand for the urban canopy improve. | 00:58:22 | |
And then 28 for the review, update and implementation of the George Washington Park Master plan. So we know where that one is. | 00:58:27 | |
That one's waiting the biological assessment. | 00:58:31 | |
But do. | 00:58:35 | |
Like when you say those are being implemented, I can just attest to that they've been funded. So I think part of that was the | 00:58:37 | |
direction from Belief Council to have a 12 month biological assessment of George Washington Park to and I know that some of the | 00:58:43 | |
funding to plant more trees is being implemented. | 00:58:49 | |
And I don't have details on the number of trees or exactly where the trees have gone, but I know that that's in progress. | 00:58:56 | |
OK. Is there any way BNRC can be involved in that a little bit? | 00:59:02 | |
So the BNRC requested for that that project and and I'll have to look into exactly what progress is happening and where we are | 00:59:07 | |
with that this net CIP budget and that CIP project. Thank you. That would be really great. And then the other question I think | 00:59:14 | |
we've all been wondering is we got funded for a partnering part time maintenance worker of George Washington Park and. | 00:59:21 | |
I don't know if they've ever been hired or not, you know? | 00:59:29 | |
Improvement project. I think that that that was like. | 01:00:04 | |
40,000 of the 80 or 42,000 of the 80,000, is that right? I'm not entirely sure, but I'd be happy to look into it, OK? | 01:00:07 | |
Thank you. | 01:00:14 | |
George, are you able to get the three prior? | 01:00:16 | |
Applications that we made to chair walking stick. | 01:00:20 | |
After. | 01:00:25 | |
Yes, I'd be happy to. | 01:00:26 | |
Wonderful. Umm. | 01:00:27 | |
Rebecca. | 01:00:34 | |
You mentioned. | 01:00:36 | |
CIP collaboration with the Rec. | 01:00:39 | |
Are they? | 01:00:42 | |
Or are you? | 01:00:44 | |
Put that through. | 01:00:47 | |
The BNRC or how does that? | 01:00:48 | |
Chair Goldsmith put it to the record already as a solid rec board or sole record deal. | 01:00:55 | |
And. | 01:01:03 | |
I thought it was just an idea that if we. | 01:01:04 | |
Asked her to collaborate about that. We might be more likely to get CIP funding, or we could. | 01:01:09 | |
Offer some of this funding we already have. | 01:01:17 | |
To use in that program. So it was just a collaborative effort and. | 01:01:21 | |
I can talk with her and get back with you. More on that. | 01:01:27 | |
And. | 01:01:31 | |
Yeah, I'd like to discuss that within our subcommittee. That'd be awesome. Thank you. I had one. | 01:01:34 | |
And and I for wildlife. | 01:01:40 | |
OK. | 01:01:43 | |
With regards to the community corner at the library. | 01:01:46 | |
There's going to be a significant need when we get our kiosk there for brochures and some of those brochures have already been | 01:01:49 | |
designed, but we could certainly do one. | 01:01:55 | |
For the city and monies for those brochures. | 01:02:02 | |
So I don't know if I think, I think the kiosk is getting taken out of the library board budget. | 01:02:08 | |
But brochures are going to have to be ongoing for as far into the future as I can see to be provided to the community and | 01:02:15 | |
tourists. | 01:02:19 | |
And so I wondered, I know you said this had to be 5 grand, which is kind of a lot for people, you know, but maybe if we put it | 01:02:25 | |
over a certain year, like a five year period. | 01:02:31 | |
And then we could fund not only the brochures printing, but, you know, any updates or creation of new ones as they're needed. | 01:02:38 | |
Would that fly, do you think, as ACIP? | 01:02:44 | |
Vice Chairman, I have a hard time saying that. For then one, it would be really hard. | 01:02:52 | |
Exceeded $5000 in a single time printing of brochures. | 01:02:56 | |
And this is for, you know, kind of a one time project. This is not for ongoing projects or you know, indefinite projects. OK. So | 01:03:00 | |
where do you suggest we get funding for that? | 01:03:05 | |
For printing brochures, if it's just kind of standard printing, I think we can make that happen with the public works budget. I | 01:03:12 | |
don't imagine that even coming close to $5000. OK, OK, that's good then. Thank you. | 01:03:19 | |
OK, so the three that were suggested in the agenda report? | 01:03:30 | |
Have. | 01:03:37 | |
Traction already. They were already written up, so these just need some refining. | 01:03:38 | |
Correct. | 01:03:43 | |
Am I correct in that assumption? | 01:03:44 | |
Yes, Mr. First. | 01:03:47 | |
Sure was a gift. I agree with that. | 01:03:48 | |
That's awesome. | 01:03:51 | |
So are there any other? | 01:03:53 | |
Comments or discuss? | 01:03:56 | |
For CIPS for 2425. | 01:03:58 | |
I just want to say the extension of the street tree wells also ties into the storm water runoff. | 01:04:02 | |
And and protection of the marine sanctuary, so it can get a lot of traction that way too. | 01:04:11 | |
OK. | 01:04:21 | |
Just with the transition between the two items was a little just to make sure that we cover all our bases, maybe we could solicit | 01:04:24 | |
public comment on this item now. | 01:04:29 | |
Just to make sure we cover it, OK. | 01:04:34 | |
Let's open this up to public comment for CIPS. | 01:04:36 | |
For fiscal year 2425. | 01:04:41 | |
No hands raised in the virtual audience. | 01:04:48 | |
Thank you. | 01:04:50 | |
OK, Our next meeting is March 19th. | 01:04:53 | |
Anybody move to adjourn the. | 01:04:57 | |
Oh, do we need an action for? | 01:05:03 | |
Signal we do not need an action just to discuss as a group and then. | 01:05:07 | |
The Stephanie is on in the in. The other staff will work with the chair to fine tune those submittals by March 18th. Sounds good. | 01:05:12 | |
I have moved to journal meeting. | 01:05:21 | |
All in favor. | 01:05:24 | |
Aye, aye. | 01:05:25 | |
Thank you everyone. | 01:05:26 |
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OK. We'll call this meeting to order. May I have a roll call please? | 00:00:00 | |
Commissioner Gorman. | 00:00:06 | |
Here, Commissioner. | 00:00:08 | |
Here, Commissioner walking stick chair. | 00:00:10 | |
Here, Secretary Lee. | 00:00:14 | |
Vice chair. | 00:00:17 | |
Here here all present. | 00:00:19 | |
Wonderful. | 00:00:24 | |
OK, may I have a motion to approve the agenda? | 00:00:29 | |
So moved. | 00:00:34 | |
All in favor. | 00:00:39 | |
Aye, aye. | 00:00:40 | |
Motion passes. | 00:00:47 | |
All right. Does any, do any of the Commission members have any? | 00:00:51 | |
Commissioners have any? | 00:00:55 | |
Announcements I. | 00:00:57 | |
And then? | 00:01:00 | |
Oh, sorry, George, you go ahead. | 00:01:02 | |
All right, much to my chagrin, the relief organization I mentioned last time that has the free tree inventory software. | 00:01:05 | |
Only. | 00:01:14 | |
Accepts memberships from nonprofits and community groups, so cities are not allowed, so we can't use it. | 00:01:15 | |
I'm still going to attend and get the software and maybe. | 00:01:22 | |
Play around with it with George Washington Park or something if anyone wants to join me. | 00:01:25 | |
The number 2, The community wildlife. | 00:01:31 | |
Not wildlife. I'm sorry. Wildfire protection management. | 00:01:35 | |
Plan or report that was prepared for Carmel, Monterey and Pacific Grove is out and. | 00:01:40 | |
I think we're hoping it's going to be posted on the city web page, but if not, I'll attach it to next month's minutes and anyone | 00:01:49 | |
who wants it in advance. It was done by the Dudette Company, which is the same company that did the George Washington Park. | 00:01:57 | |
Maintenance. | 00:02:05 | |
And. | 00:02:08 | |
The kind of like a tree subcommittee update the rec department I'm so happy about this is. | 00:02:10 | |
Putting together. | 00:02:19 | |
CIP request to fund. | 00:02:22 | |
School age children planting trees as an educational and recreational activity, and so perhaps we could. | 00:02:26 | |
Join with them, collaborate with them. Dovetail with them on getting CIP money. If two boards asked for it, you know so. | 00:02:36 | |
I'm excited about that and I'm excited about that because it's kind of rare that you have two boards collaborating. So we have an | 00:02:46 | |
opportunity to explore this and maybe even make a protocol for how to do that. | 00:02:53 | |
Rebecca. | 00:03:00 | |
That's going to be on our agenda later. | 00:03:01 | |
Well, I'm just Announ. | 00:03:04 | |
That it's happening, that the report is doing it has nothing to do with what I'm asking for for a CIP package. | 00:03:06 | |
And then lastly, I would like to request and I hope somebody else will support me on this to get the seasonal events calendar on | 00:03:13 | |
our next agenda. | 00:03:17 | |
I think according to the handbook, we have to have two people interested in doing that. So the Seasonal Events calendar is a | 00:03:22 | |
calendar. That's. | 00:03:25 | |
Available to city staff and members of the public, and so it would say things like. | 00:03:31 | |
The the road work and the seal pupping so no road work on Ocean Blvd. or within a certain. | 00:03:39 | |
Or it wouldn't say that sorry. It would just say seal popping season this time frame and then. | 00:03:46 | |
They would know not to do road work during that time. They would it would say like bird nesting season and they would know oh, if | 00:03:54 | |
we're going to go trim trees we need to get do a inspection for nests so it gives the the, the heads up of things like that so. | 00:04:02 | |
Want to agenda? | 00:04:12 | |
Let's I would recommend that when you have things like that, rather than just do. | 00:04:16 | |
Talk about them in general, public comment that we talk about it and put it on an agenda going forward and we can have the full | 00:04:21 | |
discussion. | 00:04:25 | |
This is really supposed to be more announcements. | 00:04:29 | |
Of things that. | 00:04:33 | |
Our city. | 00:04:36 | |
And or leftover questions from. | 00:04:38 | |
OK, I thought. I thought it was going to be agendized from last time. That's what you. | 00:04:42 | |
Right. And then things changed because it's going to, it's going forward for next month. | 00:04:47 | |
It's going forward for next month, OK, OK, cool. So I don't have to worry about it. | 00:04:52 | |
OK. | 00:04:57 | |
At the last meeting. | 00:05:08 | |
Some of the people on the zoom call could not hear. | 00:05:14 | |
The Commission. | 00:05:22 | |
And that's because. | 00:05:24 | |
Microphones. | 00:05:25 | |
One directional or something. So I just want to remind Commissioners to please speak directly into your. | 00:05:27 | |
Microphone because. | 00:05:34 | |
It was unfortunate that some people's comments. | 00:05:36 | |
Heard by the general public who are on Zoom. | 00:05:40 | |
Special actor training. I guess we'll need that. Thank you, Kathy. | 00:05:48 | |
Andre, thank you. I wanted to say thank you to the police, fire and all first responders involved in our storms last week. | 00:05:55 | |
Additionally to update on the Monarch Sanctuary butterfly count, it was 1250 last week. | 00:06:04 | |
Since we don't know we had the the storm, hopefully the numbers are still. | 00:06:13 | |
Up around that point, Hopkins Harbor seals are popping season, PG popping season beginning early February with five unsuccessful | 00:06:18 | |
births to date. The city did a really nice social media post advising residents that we're at the start of the season. | 00:06:27 | |
And also asking for the public road to be quiet around me. | 00:06:36 | |
I don't know if we have any sign updates, but that's all I have right now. | 00:06:42 | |
Thank you. | 00:06:46 | |
What else? | 00:06:50 | |
George. | 00:06:53 | |
Yeah, so Missionaries Chair Myers, I just want to reiterate what Kathy said, that we did have some complaints about microphone | 00:06:54 | |
usage and I think a good rule of thumb is about a fist. | 00:06:58 | |
Length, distance to your microphone and if you kind of listen carefully, you can hear if the system is picking up. | 00:07:03 | |
Your voice. It can be hard if you're speaking loudly, though. | 00:07:10 | |
And also had the Monarch Grove Sanctuary like Commissioner Person was saying the count. The last count was last Friday 1250. | 00:07:14 | |
Which is the normal trend as the overwintering season comes to an end and the Monarchs can begin their migration. | 00:07:23 | |
And they do seem to have weathered the storms pretty well. It's hard to see clusters from the pathway they're tending to cluster | 00:07:31 | |
in the inner Grove really high up right now, but people can see monarchs in there doing their kind of reproductive dances and | 00:07:39 | |
seeking nectar fluttering around, especially in the warmer afternoon hours. | 00:07:46 | |
But I think that's quickly going to come to an end as the kind of bar graph of the line chart of their population drops down as | 00:07:54 | |
they get ready to go. And we do still have the lower section of the footpath closed due to a hazardous tree hanging over the path. | 00:08:02 | |
And during the storm events, when it gets you know where you have extreme wind. We close off the entire path in the entire park. | 00:08:10 | |
And. | 00:08:20 | |
Moving on. | 00:08:22 | |
I just wanted to let everyone know that the black oystercatcher MO U. | 00:08:23 | |
Coastal development permit application is in the hands of the Planning Department. | 00:08:29 | |
And the Planning Commission and they're currently exploring what is going to be required if we're going to need a full permit, a | 00:08:34 | |
waiver or if we might qualify for an exemption. | 00:08:38 | |
So that is pending and in the meantime myself and staff have been collaborating with. | 00:08:43 | |
Motorola project in the Audubon to kind of make plans at a time to have make sure we have all the barricades for the kind of | 00:08:49 | |
expected sites from the last previous years on hand and to hammer out the signage so that that's ready to go. So even though we're | 00:08:55 | |
still waiting on the Planning Commission to finalize the permit. | 00:09:00 | |
Situation. We're still kind of plowing forward and making sure that we're ready and we're planning a meeting with staff and the | 00:09:06 | |
Audubon and the employee project to make sure that's all dialed in. | 00:09:11 | |
And with seals, we have the drone signs that were discussed on order. So we expect those shortly. And we're the quiet seal signs. | 00:09:16 | |
We've got some concepts and that's in progress. And I'm hoping to meet shortly, probably I'm hoping the end of this week or | 00:09:24 | |
earlier next week with that subcommittee to discuss the kind of concepts and get those ordered and maybe in the meantime have a | 00:09:31 | |
temporary solution while we wait for a permanent sign that's going to be mounted into the ground. | 00:09:39 | |
And that's everything I've got. Thanks. | 00:09:48 | |
Wonderful. Thank you, George. Council liaison announcements. | 00:09:50 | |
Good afternoon, Chair members of the Commission, I've got a couple of announcements regarding. | 00:09:55 | |
Our last meeting councils last meeting on February 14th, Council discussed and gave direction to the City attorney regarding. | 00:10:01 | |
Public comments at meetings of legislative bodies. That would be the council and all of all of the BCC's. | 00:10:10 | |
And this this basically involves providing a notice on each agenda. | 00:10:18 | |
And then also allowing the chair to interrupt inappropriate. | 00:10:25 | |
Discussion as it rel. | 00:10:29 | |
To discussion, that's not permissible. | 00:10:31 | |
And that's all outlined in the agenda report, which I will provide a link to in a follow up e-mail. | 00:10:35 | |
Council also discussed. | 00:10:41 | |
The board's committees and commissions hand. | 00:10:45 | |
And there is a revision that's currently underway. | 00:10:48 | |
That revision will come back to council for final adoption. | 00:10:52 | |
There was discussion, some good discussion on how each board, committee, Commission can provide. | 00:10:56 | |
Their recommendations to council? | 00:11:03 | |
And I'll provide the link to the agenda report and also the video. I think that's worth watching. | 00:11:05 | |
Have a good meeting. | 00:11:10 | |
Thank you. | 00:11:14 | |
Now we'll open it up for general public comment. | 00:11:17 | |
We have two or three hands raised in the audience. | 00:11:28 | |
Let's start with Lisa John. | 00:11:38 | |
Thank you. Before my time starts on my comment, I'd just like to give you some feedback about the microphones because. | 00:11:43 | |
The chair has a particularly particular challenge because whenever she turns to talk to one of the other members, even recognize | 00:11:51 | |
them. | 00:11:56 | |
But we we lose it. So mostly I've heard Rebecca and Kathy's reminder and Andre. But. | 00:12:02 | |
All the other conversation is not. | 00:12:10 | |
OK. Well, I was hoping that. | 00:12:14 | |
Yeah, thank you that I could have a full 3 minutes for my comment because. | 00:12:17 | |
I wanted to speak about the Great Tide Pool Trail. | 00:12:22 | |
And you know, which has been was gravely damaged last a a year ago and a little more than that and there's an item on the council | 00:12:27 | |
agenda for tomorrow that's confusing. It's on it's, it's on the consent agenda, the CIP project budget report and. | 00:12:40 | |
Titled Tide Pool and Point Pinos. Now I've tried to find out from. | 00:12:54 | |
Public works this afternoon what that is, and I'm told that it's really the. | 00:13:01 | |
The Point Pinos Trail project, but it's for 35,900, which sounds like the great typical repair project. So in any case. | 00:13:06 | |
The repairs need to be done there and so far it's not getting a lot better that in fact a bench has just been added out there. | 00:13:16 | |
By the beach where where it's below 20 foot elevation, which is a. | 00:13:28 | |
Not acceptable places we've learned, I would have thought. Also the boardwalk going straight down the middle out to the beach is | 00:13:35 | |
is at least 6 inches deep in sand and has been continually. | 00:13:42 | |
For most, for most of the way and at the North End. | 00:13:52 | |
Where? Where The trail just simply dropped off last year. | 00:13:57 | |
They've they've sort of done something but and they've put. | 00:14:02 | |
DG decomposed granite on it, but that is like ball bearings. So on a slope, a steep slope with ball bearings there are there are | 00:14:09 | |
people who who can do that but. | 00:14:16 | |
The general public and. | 00:14:22 | |
I would like to be considered part of the general public despite my years of age. | 00:14:26 | |
And I I have always walked out there regularly. I could navigate the sand. | 00:14:33 | |
The sand dunes that were there before better than I could navigate the trail. So I'm hoping that you will ask for a report. I'm | 00:14:38 | |
asking and requesting that you ask for a report from public works on what the status is of that trail and why. The other thing is. | 00:14:48 | |
There's all this concrete debris leftover from when they built the trail and added concrete that wasn't in the approved plans, and | 00:14:59 | |
all that concrete debris is scattered all over. | 00:15:05 | |
They are at. | 00:15:13 | |
They have put up. | 00:15:15 | |
The post What do they call it? Rod and cable fencing to keep people to some degree out of the. | 00:15:17 | |
The native plants and endangered plants that are out there. So I hope you will request an update on that. Thank you. | 00:15:25 | |
Thank you. | 00:15:36 | |
And now with the hand up with Tom Aikman. | 00:15:40 | |
I thank you. I just want to reinforce something George announced, which was happy to hear. | 00:15:45 | |
That. The signs. The quiet signs that. | 00:15:51 | |
Been talked about for some time for down around. | 00:15:55 | |
Hopkins Marine Station, The Seal Beach. | 00:15:57 | |
Are in. | 00:16:02 | |
Good to hear. I wish they were done by now and I was going to call and encourage you to to get on those, but now I hear you are | 00:16:04 | |
getting on those. | 00:16:08 | |
And the idea of putting up something. | 00:16:12 | |
Maybe a good idea because as you heard from Andre. | 00:16:17 | |
The need is. | 00:16:21 | |
Things have. | 00:16:23 | |
And for maybe reasons not so hard to explain. | 00:16:25 | |
The days this weekend between the. | 00:16:30 | |
There was a lot of boisterous folks that went out to blow some steam off. | 00:16:33 | |
It was the. | 00:16:39 | |
Not a good thing. | 00:16:41 | |
So. | 00:16:42 | |
Anything. | 00:16:44 | |
You can think of the speed along with temporary signs or to move it along. We would appreciate it very much. Thank you. | 00:16:45 | |
Thank you. | 00:16:57 | |
And now we have a hand raised from Carmelita Garcia. | 00:17:02 | |
Good afternoon. Thank you and thank you for your. | 00:17:09 | |
I just want to mention a few things about our native deer here in Pacific Grove. | 00:17:12 | |
So for the most part they shelter in place during the rains and when there is no rain they. | 00:17:19 | |
Come out and they. | 00:17:26 | |
Nibble on the fresh wet grass and also on the Moss that. | 00:17:28 | |
Falls from the trees during the. | 00:17:33 | |
And the Moss pretty much lands. | 00:17:37 | |
In the. | 00:17:41 | |
Some of it are in little balls type of thing, others are remain on the branches of trees and what have you so. | 00:17:43 | |
Just a reminder to be watchful of that while driving. | 00:17:50 | |
Riding bikes and what have you. Some doughs are coming out with their fawns and the fawns are about 10 months old now. | 00:17:54 | |
They're pretty cute. They're healthy looking. Glad to see. | 00:18:02 | |
11th next month PGD or awareness, we will be at the farmers market. We have a table there. | 00:18:10 | |
Each year and we'll have literature and and brochures and what have you discussing. | 00:18:16 | |
Deer and things to do and not to do. | 00:18:24 | |
And. | 00:18:26 | |
April 1st of last year of 2023, the first fan was born. | 00:18:29 | |
So that's kind of sort of around the corner and I will be monitoring does and I. | 00:18:35 | |
Typically put word out for those that might see one in their yard to alert us to that so that we can begin monitoring them. | 00:18:42 | |
Anyway, thank you very much for your time and please drive safely. | 00:18:50 | |
We still have a big herd that hang out at the PG Middle School. | 00:18:56 | |
And they have a tendency to meander across the street over to Canterbury and back and forth. And I've, I've been on the road when | 00:19:02 | |
I've seen them and drivers are very cautious and very aware of the herd that. | 00:19:08 | |
Grateful for that and encourage everybody to. | 00:19:16 | |
Just be on the lookout for our deer. Thank you very much. | 00:19:20 | |
Thank you. | 00:19:27 | |
And we have no further hands raised. | 00:19:29 | |
I was reviewing last month's minutes and I noticed that the Title 12 revisions were removed from the BNBNRC duties of creating St. | 00:19:40 | |
Tree Planting and and a Sustainable Maintenance Plan and. | 00:19:49 | |
I just wanted to see it restored and just wanted to have that brought back to attention, if we might. | 00:19:59 | |
Thank you. We're going to be revisiting that topic next month. | 00:20:05 | |
In full. | 00:20:12 | |
We'll be happy to take the take comments and have further discussion on that. OK. So. | 00:20:15 | |
Yeah, alright. Well, thank you. Thanks. | 00:20:21 | |
OK. | 00:20:31 | |
Next. | 00:20:36 | |
Will be the regular or I guess the approval of the? | 00:20:40 | |
Which we don't have. | 00:20:44 | |
Correct. So we will be having, we will have two sets of minutes to approve next month, next month. All right. I just want to say | 00:20:46 | |
that I apologize I've been very sick and when and I got the minutes to George probably about 6:00 or something the day that I | 00:20:53 | |
should have had them in and and he'd already gone home I. | 00:21:00 | |
And so, because I was. | 00:21:07 | |
They're really detailed. The 1st 2/3 the last third is rushed, isn't it? Just FYI. | 00:21:10 | |
My apologies. | 00:21:19 | |
No worries, OK, regular agenda. The first step would be selection of officers. | 00:21:23 | |
Chair Myers, would you like me to read the instructions on the normal nominating an election process? That would be great. | 00:21:34 | |
So, taken from the Boarding Commission handbook, charter committees must elect A chairperson or chair to serve a one year term at | 00:21:43 | |
the first meeting in February. | 00:21:47 | |
I think it should should be noted here that Chair Myers was not elected in February. She was elected later in the year to fill the | 00:21:51 | |
vacancy. So she has not served an entire one year term at this point. | 00:21:56 | |
Then this is also the practice of other committees, the committee chair or if there is no chair, the person who called the meeting | 00:22:02 | |
to order. | 00:22:05 | |
Will ask for nominations for the office of. | 00:22:08 | |
Members of the committee may nominate themselves or any other member of the committee. No second is required. | 00:22:11 | |
Once nominations are complete, the chair will close nominations. | 00:22:18 | |
Announced the slate of nominees. | 00:22:22 | |
And ask for a vote on the nominees in the order of nomination. | 00:22:24 | |
Each voting member of the committee shall have one vote. The nominee receiving votes from a majority of the members in attendance | 00:22:28 | |
shall be declared the winner. | 00:22:32 | |
If no member receives A majority, the process shall be repeated, except in the event of a tie between the top two vote getters, in | 00:22:37 | |
which case a runoff shall be held. | 00:22:41 | |
The winner shall assume the office of chair immediately. | 00:22:45 | |
Under using the same procedure, the new chair said shall secure the election of the. | 00:22:49 | |
The committee may also appoint a secretary. | 00:22:53 | |
OK. Thank you. | 00:22:58 | |
So may I take nominations for chair? | 00:23:00 | |
Thank you. | 00:23:11 | |
And one second is necessary. | 00:23:19 | |
Any other names? | 00:23:22 | |
I'd like to nominate Christine Walking. | 00:23:25 | |
I made it myself, but thank you. | 00:23:28 | |
It was. | 00:23:31 | |
Sorry. | 00:23:33 | |
OK. Then we go in order, George. | 00:23:37 | |
Correct all those in favor of Susan Myers. | 00:23:40 | |
Aye, aye. | 00:23:45 | |
All those in favor of Christ. | 00:23:50 | |
Aye. | 00:23:53 | |
4 Christine. | 00:23:55 | |
I'm here to go. Thank you. | 00:24:02 | |
That's a weapon. | 00:24:05 | |
OK, so we go with vice chair. | 00:24:09 | |
So do we have nominations for? | 00:24:12 | |
I would like to nominate myself as Vice chair. | 00:24:15 | |
I'd like to nominate Marty Dunn as. | 00:24:21 | |
OK. Any further nominations? | 00:24:29 | |
OK, I'm gonna nominate myself. | 00:24:34 | |
I I forgot to say that. | 00:24:41 | |
The handbook says that the BNRC is not required to have a secretary. | 00:24:44 | |
So as Vice chair, I'd be happy to continue my role in taking the minutes and writing the minutes. | 00:24:50 | |
OK, let's move forward with the vice chair. Vote 1st and then. | 00:24:56 | |
Continue with the idea. | 00:25:01 | |
For secretary. OK, so. | 00:25:03 | |
All those in favor of Rebecca. | 00:25:05 | |
Aye, aye. | 00:25:10 | |
Of course I3. | 00:25:16 | |
OK, Martin. | 00:25:20 | |
Aye, aye. | 00:25:23 | |
And Andre? | 00:25:28 | |
OK, now we have a tie with Rebecca and Marty, correct? | 00:25:34 | |
I'm reading that right? | 00:25:38 | |
So down to let's do the vote. | 00:25:39 | |
Rebecca. | 00:25:46 | |
Aye, aye. | 00:25:50 | |
Marty. | 00:25:55 | |
Aye, aye. | 00:25:58 | |
3 for. | 00:26:02 | |
Or for Rebecca? | 00:26:04 | |
Congratulations, Rebe. | 00:26:06 | |
OK. | 00:26:10 | |
What about a secretary? So Rebecca brought up that we are not required to have a secretary, although I find it important to have a | 00:26:12 | |
secretary so. | 00:26:17 | |
This is. | 00:26:24 | |
An active board, and there's a lot of writing. | 00:26:25 | |
Documenting that needs to happen. How does everybody feel about a secretary? Yes. | 00:26:31 | |
OK. | 00:26:38 | |
For many groups over the years it is a hard job. It's, I mean it's time intensive and I wonder if we might split the duty, share | 00:26:43 | |
the duties somehow on a rotational basis and rotate. | 00:26:50 | |
Two people or three people, so that the onus is not following. I'm just one person, OK? | 00:26:58 | |
I love you. | 00:27:07 | |
May I make a comment? Sure. | 00:27:09 | |
In the. | 00:27:13 | |
Boards and Commissions handbook. There is a specific call out for how minutes are to be. | 00:27:14 | |
Managed and that may be we may find that to be helpful if you've looked at the Council at. | 00:27:22 | |
Meeting minutes. They are much simplified compared to what we've been doing on the BNRC. They aren't as detailed and the | 00:27:30 | |
recommendation is that for minutes. | 00:27:36 | |
In terms of the discussion of the BNRC only action. | 00:27:45 | |
Is documented. | 00:27:51 | |
So that may help whoever is taking the minutes. It wouldn't be quite as onerous. | 00:27:55 | |
And then of course there's always the video for people to refer to. I mean, other things are documented, for example. | 00:28:01 | |
The written submissions and comments and also the names of the people that make public comment. | 00:28:09 | |
Noted, but there doesn't seem to be a need for AS owners. Yeah, OK. I think using the handbook as a as a guideline as our | 00:28:18 | |
foundational point would be valuable. | 00:28:25 | |
Yeah, the handbook makes a recommendation. It doesn't say you have to do it that way. The reason I've been doing it with detail is | 00:28:32 | |
that, and you can correct me if I've got the time wrong, George, but the they're only actually required to maintain videos online | 00:28:37 | |
for. | 00:28:42 | |
Six months or a year? And the reason they are still available from years past is because staff just hasn't gotten around to | 00:28:47 | |
deleting them. So if it's not in the minutes. | 00:28:53 | |
And it's not. I mean, you can get a gist of it from the letters, but for example, our last meeting, we didn't take any action. | 00:28:59 | |
So that huge 3 hour meeting and it. | 00:29:05 | |
No action taken that would be the reflection. So anyway, that's why I put the detail in and we'll continue to do so when it's my | 00:29:09 | |
responsibility unless. | 00:29:13 | |
Unless y'all want to vote that down or something, OK? | 00:29:18 | |
OK. And how do we feel about maybe multiple people being taking the role of secretary maybe off and on? | 00:29:24 | |
That feel OK. | 00:29:32 | |
George, is that permissible? | 00:29:35 | |
I'll read from the Board and Commission handbook that references A singular a secretary if a secretary is appointed by the | 00:29:38 | |
committee. | 00:29:42 | |
The the Secretary is responsible for timely completion, so is my interpretation of this short paragraph. | 00:29:48 | |
The boards and Commission handbook only imagines A singular secretary. | 00:29:57 | |
Thank you. | 00:30:01 | |
And I think. | 00:30:04 | |
Just to streamline the process of rotating secretary position would only complicate things in my opinion, but. | 00:30:06 | |
Be it. | 00:30:15 | |
Thank you. | 00:30:17 | |
I'd like to open up nominations for a secretary. | 00:30:18 | |
I'd like to nominate Marty. | 00:30:30 | |
Oh, come on. | 00:30:37 | |
Well, you can decline. | 00:30:40 | |
Thank you. | 00:30:43 | |
Anybody else? | 00:30:45 | |
OK, already done. | 00:30:49 | |
All in favor of Marty Dunn? Aye aye. | 00:30:52 | |
OK. | 00:31:03 | |
Moving on to the. | 00:31:06 | |
BNRC 2024 Goals and Subcommittee assignments. | 00:31:12 | |
OK, we have. | 00:31:30 | |
Our Draft Annual BNRC goals as Printed up if we. | 00:31:32 | |
Want to go through these line by line or discuss within each one subcommittees I'm assuming. | 00:31:39 | |
Well, no, I shouldn't assume. | 00:31:46 | |
Let's just start. Sorry, go ahead. | 00:31:49 | |
So I had updated these with the list of names that you guys had given me. So I think all of the. | 00:31:53 | |
The Commissioners names in these. | 00:32:00 | |
Subcommittees are accurate. I also updated. | 00:32:05 | |
The Washington Park trees and and plantings. | 00:32:10 | |
Consistent with comments that I received, but the others I didn't receive any comments on. SO. However you want to handle that. | 00:32:14 | |
Thank you. I'm jumping in here. So thank you. I appreciate it, Susan. | 00:32:22 | |
George Washington parked trees and plantings on public land. Rebecca, Christine and Jennifer. | 00:32:27 | |
Is there anything that we? | 00:32:33 | |
Want to address within that. | 00:32:37 | |
I like how they're written. Oh gosh, I'm terrible with the microphone. Apparently you can hear me. | 00:32:41 | |
At home. | 00:32:48 | |
I only had maybe one suggestion for an add-on. It kind of dovetails nicely actually with. | 00:32:51 | |
Even a monarch sanctuary goal, but where we have item. | 00:32:56 | |
Work with the city on signage for Washington Park. I know we I do have a question I I thought that was part of a CIP last year so | 00:33:00 | |
a status update would be helpful. But also I thought to kind of dovetail with it to kind of beautify the signage, everything from | 00:33:07 | |
just the park to the Monarch habitat and those things. But even do mulching and. | 00:33:14 | |
Do the native pollinator plantings like as mentioned in the Monarch sanctuary and we could do it around the signs as well, | 00:33:23 | |
especially at the corners of the park. It would serve as both the beautification project I think they could get volunteers to. | 00:33:29 | |
Maintain it, you know, at least initially in water and things like that. So maybe just some kind of add. | 00:33:37 | |
Unless that's too specific. | 00:33:44 | |
We can talk about more of that in our subcommittee. Umm, Rebecca? | 00:33:47 | |
On 1.5 can you read it Marty or? | 00:33:54 | |
Update literature, brochures, etc. On PG flora and fauna for public dissemination. | 00:34:02 | |
Thank you. So that one I thought we could add or if you wanted to make it more specific, the duties in the current tree ordinance | 00:34:08 | |
of creating the tree list and. | 00:34:15 | |
A street tree planting. | 00:34:23 | |
Plan. | 00:34:27 | |
You can put that in as a goal. | 00:34:30 | |
You can just add it to that. | 00:34:32 | |
OK. Thanks. | 00:34:34 | |
OK #2 monarch sanctuary. | 00:34:41 | |
Christine, Andre and Kathy. | 00:34:45 | |
Was there anything? | 00:34:51 | |
Comment or you wanted to add? | 00:34:54 | |
That looks good. Fantastic wildlife protection. Andre Rebecca. | 00:34:59 | |
Comments or additions, Subtractions, Looks. | 00:35:06 | |
Well, Andre did a great job on these and I was just looking at 3.4, the promotion of public education of wildlife through cities, | 00:35:10 | |
social media, signage, etcetera. And I I didn't know if you're etcetera included working with the library, the chamber and the | 00:35:18 | |
museum or might be a good idea to say it. | 00:35:26 | |
To add it. | 00:35:34 | |
I like leaving it open-ended. OK. OK. We can add that and then put et cetera. | 00:35:36 | |
Oh, sure, it's just there's the ET. | 00:35:43 | |
So. | 00:35:47 | |
So, you know, if we come up with other ideas this or that, we're not contained. Yeah, yeah, I just wanted that I liked. | 00:35:48 | |
It's more open-ended if you. | 00:35:56 | |
That piece. | 00:35:58 | |
Well, I was thinking about the community corner in the library and then I go if you're going to mention the library, you better | 00:36:00 | |
mention the museum and the Chamber of Commerce and then it got going, you know, So I like, I like leaving it open with the | 00:36:05 | |
etcetera. But I also like mentioning our institutions because like city social media assignment that doesn't mention that we're | 00:36:09 | |
collaborating with people and I kind of think that's important. | 00:36:14 | |
OK. So how would you restate it, Rebecca? | 00:36:20 | |
Just before the etc. | 00:36:23 | |
And working with the library, the Chamber of Commerce, Commerce, and the. | 00:36:28 | |
Peachy Museum. | 00:36:33 | |
Et cetera, et cetera. Perfect. | 00:36:35 | |
Commissioners, chair walking stick, if you don't mind an interjection. While we're on the topic of the Wildlife Protection | 00:36:38 | |
Subcommittee, I had meant to announce that staff announcements that the discussed and approved wildlife website edition or changes | 00:36:44 | |
updates are live and can be found under the Leisure tab on the city's website. | 00:36:50 | |
And that I know that subcommittee members have met with the library director and I have met with the library director. And there's | 00:36:56 | |
a the community corner is in progress. | 00:37:01 | |
As mentioned on here as mentioned in the discussion. So sorry to interrupt. Thank you. Thank you. | 00:37:07 | |
All right, moving on to Climate action and adaptation plan. Susan, Kathy and Jennifer. | 00:37:16 | |
Any comments or additions or? | 00:37:22 | |
That's fine. | 00:37:27 | |
Plastics, pollution, Litter, Waste reduction. Marty, Rebecca, Kathy. | 00:37:31 | |
Comments or add? | 00:37:37 | |
I'm not sure if I'm able to say this now. | 00:37:43 | |
To agenda something for next time. | 00:37:47 | |
We talked about this before. | 00:37:51 | |
Which Bush should this wait for? I think sub? | 00:37:54 | |
I think we're there. I think you should talk about it now. OK? For those of you who've been watching this show for a while, you | 00:37:58 | |
might know that I have been concerned with St. sweeping in the city. | 00:38:05 | |
And doing a two mile walk with my dog today on all the flat areas around Cynics and Gibson and Hunibero. | 00:38:12 | |
There is just so much stuff in the gutters and I saw two gutters on. | 00:38:22 | |
Which were had standing water into the. | 00:38:27 | |
And it's it's litter, of course, but. | 00:38:32 | |
Natural natural detritus, But. | 00:38:36 | |
It ends up. | 00:38:40 | |
Snagged at sewage treatment and what doesn't get snagged there ends up in the ocean and the Chronicle this morning had a front | 00:38:42 | |
page story. | 00:38:46 | |
Actually, it was yesterday's story. Rising tide of litter polluting the beaches. | 00:38:52 | |
And and I just I watched the street sweeper go down my street today. | 00:38:58 | |
And I think the quality control. | 00:39:03 | |
Aspect is missing in the street, sweeping in town that they're just. | 00:39:07 | |
It seems to be ineffective. I was with one person and she said they just go down the middle of the street sometimes. | 00:39:13 | |
There are some areas where I'd seen the street sweeper had already been by because I'd watched it, but the there was very little | 00:39:21 | |
difference in what was left in the street or picked up. | 00:39:26 | |
And I think this becomes a budget line item, but I would hope. | 00:39:31 | |
That we would do as a city A. | 00:39:36 | |
Job of cleaning our streets and preserving the health of the ocean, and that will cost money. | 00:39:40 | |
I looked even at a price of if we bought our own since we contract this workout. If we bought our own, St. Sweeper and George | 00:39:47 | |
could drive it, but it would be a minimum $100,000 for a used one. So I don't think that's realistic, but I think increasing our | 00:39:53 | |
hours with our contractor. | 00:39:59 | |
During during these. | 00:40:06 | |
Is really important. I think we're we're really not doing a good job of keeping our our streets and our gutters. | 00:40:09 | |
Free flowing. | 00:40:17 | |
It it could. | 00:40:19 | |
That I mean, I think, I think the biggest problem is that there's people park on the side of the street, so. | 00:40:22 | |
The street sweeper has to go down the middle of the street. | 00:40:31 | |
What about especially during, maybe seasonally? | 00:40:34 | |
Putting the. | 00:40:40 | |
Along the sides of the streets for one morning a week, or however often they do it. | 00:40:42 | |
So that they can actually get to where? | 00:40:49 | |
The litoris. | 00:40:52 | |
Commissioners, Chairman Walking Stick, I share all your concerns and I think those are great ideas, but I do think if we want to | 00:40:55 | |
have an in-depth conversation about this, we should agendize it at a future meeting and kind of. | 00:41:00 | |
I mean, excuse me, and I don't think we're trying to have a solution but for this plastic pollution litter. | 00:41:05 | |
If you want to put that as a as. | 00:41:13 | |
Goal. Maybe that's the way to do it. | 00:41:16 | |
That sounds great to me. I like that because that maybe it won't go away. | 00:41:20 | |
OK. Thank you, Mart. | 00:41:30 | |
We have inactive subcommittees of shoreline, water, public art, integrated pest management, community engagement, educational, | 00:41:33 | |
organizational matters. | 00:41:38 | |
Are any of these? Does anybody want to activate any of these, or are there any new subcommittees? | 00:41:46 | |
That are of interest that are pertaining to our. | 00:41:52 | |
Yes, I think. | 00:41:58 | |
We're all working pretty hard and dedicated to significant subcommittees and what I was thinking is that. | 00:42:01 | |
Like we there's kind of a informal relationship with the Aikman's and they're not on this board, but they're residents and. | 00:42:08 | |
Would there be a way to kind of and? I have no idea. This is probably something I should explore. | 00:42:19 | |
Counselor or or just discuss this, But what I'm trying to say is, can we formalize a relationship with citizens so that they're | 00:42:26 | |
not necessarily a member of the subcommittee, but they are kind of sort of a member of the. | 00:42:32 | |
Public relational, you know, with the subcommittee so that they can help because sometimes it's a little overwhelming to do all | 00:42:39 | |
this work and we could use help and if. | 00:42:44 | |
Those people are helping anyway. It would give the public an opportunity to really stay informed and be part of the discussion, | 00:42:49 | |
and then we wouldn't. We would also have someone to flesh out ideas with without violating the Brown Act in any way by going | 00:42:54 | |
outside our subcommittee. So. | 00:43:00 | |
I was thinking of that idea, and it was just an idea that popped in my head before I came to the meeting, so I haven't necessarily | 00:43:06 | |
fleshed it out, but. | 00:43:10 | |
I know that a member of the public would not be allowed to be on the subcommittee, but is there a way to create a link so they'd | 00:43:15 | |
almost have a public group or maybe of part of the volunteers or something around that idea? | 00:43:22 | |
So. | 00:43:30 | |
OK, we can explore that. | 00:43:33 | |
I don't know how that operates within the city. | 00:43:36 | |
Commissioners, chair walking stick. That's a novel idea to me and I I struggle a little bit to see how that would fit into the | 00:43:41 | |
framework of boards and commissions when we have Commission members that. | 00:43:46 | |
Have to, you know, follow certain rules and regulations and I don't, I've never, I haven't seen anything like that outlined as far | 00:43:52 | |
as a template or. | 00:43:56 | |
The protocol. So it would be completely new and I'll just leave it at that. | 00:44:00 | |
Marty And with all due respect, Madam on my right, I think it sounds really. | 00:44:07 | |
Positive, but very complicated and I think the people who are interested in such as the Aikman's and Missus, Gianni and others. | 00:44:13 | |
Carmelita the others find a way to be involved. | 00:44:25 | |
And communicate very well. | 00:44:29 | |
With the people who are instrumental in the causes they're interested in, I think it might just create a layer of bureaucracy is | 00:44:32 | |
too small, too strong a word. But it might just create another layer that gets in the way rather than keeps things open. | 00:44:40 | |
Thank you. | 00:44:50 | |
Are there any other comments or suggestions or anything anybody wants to talk about within subcommittees? | 00:44:55 | |
OK, as far as the community engage. | 00:45:04 | |
#10 | 00:45:09 | |
subcommittees, we were kind of going to deal with that, is that correct? | 00:45:12 | |
So we don't. | 00:45:16 | |
Yes. And that was the that has been the practice, so we thought. | 00:45:18 | |
After we got all the documents uploaded. | 00:45:25 | |
That after that, then the ongoing stuff would be handled by the subcommittees. | 00:45:27 | |
OK, sounds great. | 00:45:33 | |
OK, let's move on to. | 00:45:36 | |
Item 7. | 00:45:44 | |
FY24, 25 Capital Improvement or Capital Improvement Program Commission recommendations. | 00:45:47 | |
If if the Commission would like to vote to approve the subcommittee assignments, we can remove the draft and have it be official | 00:45:56 | |
and even post it on the website. | 00:45:59 | |
Maybe you could solicit a motion and approve them to vote on that. | 00:46:05 | |
I move to approve the. | 00:46:09 | |
Subcommittees and. | 00:46:12 | |
As attached. | 00:46:14 | |
2nd. | 00:46:17 | |
All in favor. | 00:46:19 | |
Aye, aye. | 00:46:21 | |
Motion Passes 70. | 00:46:23 | |
OK. Thank you. | 00:46:31 | |
I'm new. | 00:46:34 | |
So let's move on to seven C 24 fiscal year 2425 Capital Improvement Program Commission recommendations. | 00:46:35 | |
Yes. Is there any public comment? | 00:46:47 | |
Because I forgot to do that in the last one. I'm sorry. Yeah, maybe that would be a good idea to open that for public comment the | 00:46:51 | |
last just so we can say we did that if you don't. | 00:46:56 | |
Opening up for public comment on Are we working Off of the goals? | 00:47:03 | |
Subcommittee first, OK. | 00:47:07 | |
So on 7B public comment for 24/20/24 polls and subcommittee assignments. | 00:47:10 | |
With no hands raised in the virtual audience. | 00:47:18 | |
Thank you. | 00:47:21 | |
I apologize for that. I'll take that back. We have a hand raised from Mrs. Engel, Lawrence and Dahmer. | 00:47:22 | |
Thank you. At this point in my life it's just miss. Thank you, George. | 00:47:31 | |
On that, having citizens, private citizens, on other subcommittee things. | 00:47:37 | |
Your idea of incorporating them, Rebecca, almost every other board and Commission has brought that up kind of, and it's pretty | 00:47:44 | |
much a no because and it's been brought up at council too because of all different things. And you're kind of in a way saying I | 00:47:50 | |
don't agree with. | 00:47:55 | |
The appointments. And that isn't very good either. | 00:48:02 | |
Any private citizen is going to be involved in whichever way they want, but it doesn't really workout as Commissioner Dunn said. | 00:48:07 | |
I. | 00:48:12 | |
You know, there's a special the mayor had and and the the city manager can do a special subcommittee that incorporates other | 00:48:20 | |
people. And I know you're thinking about that wonderful wildlife, one that the mayor convened from a few years ago that had all | 00:48:29 | |
kinds of people involved and that was still a brown act one and it just requires different things. So I just kind of wanted to. | 00:48:39 | |
Put that out. | 00:48:50 | |
Thank you very much. | 00:48:51 | |
They're interested in the virtual audience. | 00:48:55 | |
Thank you. | 00:48:59 | |
Let's move on to public comment for Seven C, the Capital Improvement Program Commission recommendations for fiscal year 2425. | 00:49:04 | |
Any public comment? | 00:49:12 | |
Just checking. | 00:49:22 | |
Dumber. If your hand is continuing and her hand is down South, no, no hands. | 00:49:23 | |
OK. | 00:49:29 | |
Chair walking stick, if you'd like, I'd be happy to read the discussion piece of this agenda item just to kind of clarify what | 00:49:35 | |
we're looking for from the boards and commissions in regards to capital improvement projects. | 00:49:40 | |
From prior to the start of each of the school year, the City adopts an annual budget. There are two primary components of the | 00:49:46 | |
city's annual budget, the capital improvement plan and operating budget. The Capital Improvement Plan is a long range plan. | 00:49:52 | |
Identifies capital projects and equipment purchases. Provides an implementation schedule. Identifies options for capital project | 00:49:59 | |
financing. Links projects to council strategic goals. Links capital projects to budgets. | 00:50:06 | |
Provides project information and justification. | 00:50:13 | |
Council Policy 400-6 defines a capital improvement project or asset as buildings. | 00:50:17 | |
Machinery or equipment with an original cost in excess of $5000. | 00:50:24 | |
And a useful life of three years or more. | 00:50:29 | |
The development of the CIP is a collaborative process. As part of the Fiscal Year 2425 CIP process, the city is providing boards, | 00:50:32 | |
committees and commissions with an opportunity. | 00:50:38 | |
To submit the project ideas that fall within their respective reviews for funding consideration. | 00:50:44 | |
The chair is looking for direction from the Commission of project submission ideas. | 00:50:49 | |
Some ideas based on previously articulated needs include monarch sanctuary, footpath replacement of rope fencing with split rail. | 00:50:54 | |
Expansion of St. tree wells and installation of permeable surfacing. | 00:51:01 | |
Replanting Lighthouse Ave. medians with native plants. | 00:51:06 | |
Those three are examples that were discussed and submitted. | 00:51:13 | |
This this time last year, but we're not funded. | 00:51:16 | |
Thank you. Thank you. | 00:51:21 | |
Let's open this up. | 00:51:24 | |
Commission discussion Do we have any ideas? | 00:51:27 | |
Chair I oh. | 00:51:30 | |
I'd like to res. | 00:51:33 | |
The monarch sanctuary footpath railing, split railing fence, OK which was not. | 00:51:35 | |
Approved last year, I think we can use the same template that. | 00:51:44 | |
Submitted last year and maybe update the cost a percentage, OK. Like it's really needed. Thank you. | 00:51:48 | |
I. | 00:51:57 | |
Resubmit the trees. | 00:51:58 | |
One, the tree wells and installation. Three wells and installations. | 00:52:02 | |
And I'd like to resubmit #3, which is beautification. And I think this was your idea originally, Susan or maybe that was in SPG | 00:52:12 | |
talked about. | 00:52:17 | |
The mediums on Lighthouse. | 00:52:22 | |
Make us look. | 00:52:24 | |
Pretty spiffy. And commissioner Dan, we want to point out that one is a little sticky because it kind of toes the line between the | 00:52:26 | |
capital improvement project and ongoing maintenance. So I think if we kind of craft the wording just right, we can kind of form it | 00:52:32 | |
into a CIP proposal, but it is kind of flirting with being just ongoing maintenance. | 00:52:39 | |
So by by enhancing the wording, would it involve by? | 00:52:47 | |
I'm not trying to dissuade you from including that. I'm just trying to point that out. Thank you. | 00:52:51 | |
Purchasing new plants and and. | 00:52:59 | |
Hiring city. | 00:53:04 | |
To plant. | 00:53:05 | |
Replant awareness, replant where necessary and newly plant. | 00:53:07 | |
Sections of the medians on Lighthouse Ave. | 00:53:12 | |
And then maybe we even want to restrict how many medians. If the city says fine, we'll give you X number of dollars and that will | 00:53:17 | |
only cover. | 00:53:21 | |
3. | 00:53:26 | |
I think that's a good start, and I'm happy to work with the chair as we formulate the wording before submittal. | 00:53:27 | |
Yeah, I think. | 00:53:34 | |
What I understand about this is that this is this is the structure and we find the way to have freedom within it. So I really | 00:53:35 | |
believe in freedom through structure. | 00:53:41 | |
And this is so. | 00:53:48 | |
Kind of how I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong, that we're looking for things capital improvement projects or assets as | 00:53:51 | |
buildings, machinery or equipment. So there's like materials involved, but that's not. | 00:53:58 | |
White plants is it? Am I kind of reading that right? Like we kind of have to have maybe like a plant bed included in that, like? | 00:54:05 | |
I think you're I think you're thinking in the right direction. | 00:54:13 | |
Right. | 00:54:17 | |
I wanted to comment on this one because I started thinking about when you plant native plant native plants in the lighthouse | 00:54:20 | |
medians, you're attracting bees, you're attracting butterflies and that's a highly trafficked by vehicle area. And is that really | 00:54:28 | |
where you want to have those kinds of things? Wouldn't you rather have them like in the area that? | 00:54:36 | |
You significantly got started here. Or maybe the beds for the bed? | 00:54:44 | |
As an example of the native plant flower garden in Caledonia Park. | 00:54:51 | |
Something like that, where the quitters were trying to attract wouldn't be dissuaded. So that was my comment on that. I really | 00:54:59 | |
like the idea, but I just wondered if there was a better location. | 00:55:04 | |
In response. | 00:55:11 | |
It's working. In response to that you can probably distinguish between native plants and native pollinator plants. | 00:55:13 | |
And. | 00:55:22 | |
Bushes, for example, that could be planted. | 00:55:24 | |
As as attractive to the bees and butterflies. I think your point is really well taken, especially for butterflies because they | 00:55:27 | |
tend to move slower than the bees. | 00:55:31 | |
But I think you could find plantings there that would. | 00:55:37 | |
Green up the space without. | 00:55:42 | |
Becoming a pollinator attraction. | 00:55:45 | |
OK, excellent. | 00:55:48 | |
Yes, George, I guess I have a question for you. So I think we heard from Lisa Chang about the Great Tide Pool and that trail. | 00:55:52 | |
Do we do have a status on that and could that be considered a CLP project? I'm just thinking I just heard that and my ears pricked | 00:56:01 | |
up. | 00:56:05 | |
I don't have a status update to provide right now that project and I know that that was recently part of a bigger project on the | 00:56:11 | |
coast. | 00:56:17 | |
So unless if you have kind of something more formulated specifically to that and what you're trying to accomplish. | 00:56:23 | |
I'm not sure what structure to. | 00:56:31 | |
Yeah, I just was thinking a troll meeting work. Didn't know what the status was, didn't know if we should put that forward as a | 00:56:33 | |
project, but it sounds like that is a piece of. | 00:56:38 | |
Yeah, from point Pinos to a Silver Mart sounds like a bigger project going on. So we do not have to address it as a CIP project, | 00:56:45 | |
correct. I think you're correct in that sentiment. Yes. OK, thank you. | 00:56:50 | |
Chair walking stick, I have a question. | 00:56:56 | |
When are actually for George? When is the, When are the CIP requests? | 00:56:59 | |
Due to. | 00:57:06 | |
Or to you to be included. | 00:57:09 | |
Submissions Commissioner, If you don't mind, give me a moment to look into that before I give you a date. I believe it is sometime | 00:57:12 | |
next month. I want to be. | 00:57:16 | |
Correct. | 00:57:21 | |
Yeah, the group was March 8. | 00:57:24 | |
Is the ultimate submittal date, so. | 00:57:26 | |
When's our next meeting? | 00:57:28 | |
I think it's it's after that, isn't it? Yeah, it is. After that is March 19th is the next day. Interesting meeting. | 00:57:31 | |
Thank you. Oh, sorry. I had a question and I think this is for you as well. George, with the CIP project that was funded, I | 00:57:39 | |
thought it was funded last year for George Washington Park with signage and maybe plantings. Do we have an update was, is that | 00:57:44 | |
something we should be pushing forward or I think the funding is there and the project is in progress. It is in progress. I don't | 00:57:50 | |
have the specifics on. | 00:57:55 | |
What is in progress? OK, OK, but so that already. | 00:58:01 | |
So that does not need to be considered for this. | 00:58:07 | |
Elaborate on that because that was my question too. It's like I had written down that. | 00:58:12 | |
We had 50 grand for the George Washington Park Enhancement Project. | 00:58:17 | |
And then 80 grand for the urban canopy improve. | 00:58:22 | |
And then 28 for the review, update and implementation of the George Washington Park Master plan. So we know where that one is. | 00:58:27 | |
That one's waiting the biological assessment. | 00:58:31 | |
But do. | 00:58:35 | |
Like when you say those are being implemented, I can just attest to that they've been funded. So I think part of that was the | 00:58:37 | |
direction from Belief Council to have a 12 month biological assessment of George Washington Park to and I know that some of the | 00:58:43 | |
funding to plant more trees is being implemented. | 00:58:49 | |
And I don't have details on the number of trees or exactly where the trees have gone, but I know that that's in progress. | 00:58:56 | |
OK. Is there any way BNRC can be involved in that a little bit? | 00:59:02 | |
So the BNRC requested for that that project and and I'll have to look into exactly what progress is happening and where we are | 00:59:07 | |
with that this net CIP budget and that CIP project. Thank you. That would be really great. And then the other question I think | 00:59:14 | |
we've all been wondering is we got funded for a partnering part time maintenance worker of George Washington Park and. | 00:59:21 | |
I don't know if they've ever been hired or not, you know? | 00:59:29 | |
Improvement project. I think that that that was like. | 01:00:04 | |
40,000 of the 80 or 42,000 of the 80,000, is that right? I'm not entirely sure, but I'd be happy to look into it, OK? | 01:00:07 | |
Thank you. | 01:00:14 | |
George, are you able to get the three prior? | 01:00:16 | |
Applications that we made to chair walking stick. | 01:00:20 | |
After. | 01:00:25 | |
Yes, I'd be happy to. | 01:00:26 | |
Wonderful. Umm. | 01:00:27 | |
Rebecca. | 01:00:34 | |
You mentioned. | 01:00:36 | |
CIP collaboration with the Rec. | 01:00:39 | |
Are they? | 01:00:42 | |
Or are you? | 01:00:44 | |
Put that through. | 01:00:47 | |
The BNRC or how does that? | 01:00:48 | |
Chair Goldsmith put it to the record already as a solid rec board or sole record deal. | 01:00:55 | |
And. | 01:01:03 | |
I thought it was just an idea that if we. | 01:01:04 | |
Asked her to collaborate about that. We might be more likely to get CIP funding, or we could. | 01:01:09 | |
Offer some of this funding we already have. | 01:01:17 | |
To use in that program. So it was just a collaborative effort and. | 01:01:21 | |
I can talk with her and get back with you. More on that. | 01:01:27 | |
And. | 01:01:31 | |
Yeah, I'd like to discuss that within our subcommittee. That'd be awesome. Thank you. I had one. | 01:01:34 | |
And and I for wildlife. | 01:01:40 | |
OK. | 01:01:43 | |
With regards to the community corner at the library. | 01:01:46 | |
There's going to be a significant need when we get our kiosk there for brochures and some of those brochures have already been | 01:01:49 | |
designed, but we could certainly do one. | 01:01:55 | |
For the city and monies for those brochures. | 01:02:02 | |
So I don't know if I think, I think the kiosk is getting taken out of the library board budget. | 01:02:08 | |
But brochures are going to have to be ongoing for as far into the future as I can see to be provided to the community and | 01:02:15 | |
tourists. | 01:02:19 | |
And so I wondered, I know you said this had to be 5 grand, which is kind of a lot for people, you know, but maybe if we put it | 01:02:25 | |
over a certain year, like a five year period. | 01:02:31 | |
And then we could fund not only the brochures printing, but, you know, any updates or creation of new ones as they're needed. | 01:02:38 | |
Would that fly, do you think, as ACIP? | 01:02:44 | |
Vice Chairman, I have a hard time saying that. For then one, it would be really hard. | 01:02:52 | |
Exceeded $5000 in a single time printing of brochures. | 01:02:56 | |
And this is for, you know, kind of a one time project. This is not for ongoing projects or you know, indefinite projects. OK. So | 01:03:00 | |
where do you suggest we get funding for that? | 01:03:05 | |
For printing brochures, if it's just kind of standard printing, I think we can make that happen with the public works budget. I | 01:03:12 | |
don't imagine that even coming close to $5000. OK, OK, that's good then. Thank you. | 01:03:19 | |
OK, so the three that were suggested in the agenda report? | 01:03:30 | |
Have. | 01:03:37 | |
Traction already. They were already written up, so these just need some refining. | 01:03:38 | |
Correct. | 01:03:43 | |
Am I correct in that assumption? | 01:03:44 | |
Yes, Mr. First. | 01:03:47 | |
Sure was a gift. I agree with that. | 01:03:48 | |
That's awesome. | 01:03:51 | |
So are there any other? | 01:03:53 | |
Comments or discuss? | 01:03:56 | |
For CIPS for 2425. | 01:03:58 | |
I just want to say the extension of the street tree wells also ties into the storm water runoff. | 01:04:02 | |
And and protection of the marine sanctuary, so it can get a lot of traction that way too. | 01:04:11 | |
OK. | 01:04:21 | |
Just with the transition between the two items was a little just to make sure that we cover all our bases, maybe we could solicit | 01:04:24 | |
public comment on this item now. | 01:04:29 | |
Just to make sure we cover it, OK. | 01:04:34 | |
Let's open this up to public comment for CIPS. | 01:04:36 | |
For fiscal year 2425. | 01:04:41 | |
No hands raised in the virtual audience. | 01:04:48 | |
Thank you. | 01:04:50 | |
OK, Our next meeting is March 19th. | 01:04:53 | |
Anybody move to adjourn the. | 01:04:57 | |
Oh, do we need an action for? | 01:05:03 | |
Signal we do not need an action just to discuss as a group and then. | 01:05:07 | |
The Stephanie is on in the in. The other staff will work with the chair to fine tune those submittals by March 18th. Sounds good. | 01:05:12 | |
I have moved to journal meeting. | 01:05:21 | |
All in favor. | 01:05:24 | |
Aye, aye. | 01:05:25 | |
Thank you everyone. | 01:05:26 |